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2022-01-24 6:26:22 PM  
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2022-01-24 8:02:22 PM  
As opposed to summer fashion trends, which have left Seattleites sleeveless.
 
2022-01-24 8:06:09 PM  
Please...for the love of Dog....JUST LOOK UP! This thing is real, it is imminent and it is going to kill us all if we don't do anything about it.
 
2022-01-24 8:09:30 PM  

WyDave: As opposed to summer fashion trends, which have left Seattleites sleeveless.


Or the supply chain shortage of stainless steel netting that left many sieveless in Seattle.
 
2022-01-24 8:12:36 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: WyDave: As opposed to summer fashion trends, which have left Seattleites sleeveless.

Or the supply chain shortage of stainless steel netting that left many sieveless in Seattle.


Churches without bell towers are steepleless in Seattle.
 
2022-01-24 8:15:19 PM  
Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.
 
2022-01-24 8:16:32 PM  
Put the people that haven't been vaccinated in the parking garage.  Problem solved.

/got my booster today.
 
2022-01-24 8:34:20 PM  
Time to start discharging anyone who is not vaccinated.  Doesn't matter their condition - unvaccinated individuals should get pushed aside for the rare cases of vaccinated individuals who require hospitalization.
 
2022-01-24 8:35:46 PM  
make more beds...
 
2022-01-24 8:42:23 PM  

cyberspacedout: Tom Marvolo Bombadil: WyDave: As opposed to summer fashion trends, which have left Seattleites sleeveless.

Or the supply chain shortage of stainless steel netting that left many sieveless in Seattle.

Churches without bell towers are steepleless in Seattle.


It's illegal to keep livestock in the city, so I'm sheepless in Seattle.
 
2022-01-24 8:45:18 PM  
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2022-01-24 8:58:53 PM  
I'm sure Va isn't far behind since Governor Stupid McfarkFace rescinded the mask mandate in schools. Sociopathic worthless sack of shiat. Why yes, I do live in a district that just voted to give parents the choice of masking their kids or not.
 
2022-01-24 9:01:36 PM  

BlippityBleep: Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.


As of Jan 4, King County is at 84.3% of people 12+ being fully vaccinated and Washington State is at 74%. (Link)

Booster status not reported.
 
2022-01-24 9:01:57 PM  
Ii had a SIRS infection last week.  Went via ambulance to St. Francis in Hartford, CT. I was admitted, and spent the entire stay in the ER because they had no upstairs beds - Thursday thru Sunday, but I was a lucky one.  I had an ER room.  One woman spent 70 hours in the hallway before having surgery. They had to release me once I stabilized, which was before the infection was clear.  Friday my doctor sent me back, but this time I've been lucky enough to have a room since Sunday. Healthcare was being pushed to the limits before Covid. Now it's crumbling and getting worse.

These nurses, they deserve all the credit.  They're still doing everything they can under the circumstances, and going above and beyond when possible. It's amazing to see, and they are my heroes.
 
2022-01-24 9:02:22 PM  

BlippityBleep: Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.


We've started doing that, at least on our intranet, not sure about public. Even with Onnomnom still running about 70% of hospitalized are unvaccinated, 80 % on ventilator.
 
2022-01-24 9:05:01 PM  
It's nasty out there.  Prior to December the highest Covid census for the wife's hospital was 45.   It's at 90 today.  These are all patients of the hospital already(not necessarily inpatient) and not general public.   Everybody at the house next door just had it or has it now, all vaccinated, husband and wife boosted, kids can't be yet.  Fortunately just the cold symptoms for them.
 
2022-01-24 9:05:23 PM  

cyberspacedout: Tom Marvolo Bombadil: WyDave: As opposed to summer fashion trends, which have left Seattleites sleeveless.

Or the supply chain shortage of stainless steel netting that left many sieveless in Seattle.

Churches without bell towers are steepleless in Seattle.


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2022-01-24 9:08:22 PM  

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2022-01-24 9:14:05 PM  
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2022-01-24 9:14:13 PM  

rhodabear: Ii had a SIRS infection last week.  Went via ambulance to St. Francis in Hartford, CT. I was admitted, and spent the entire stay in the ER because they had no upstairs beds - Thursday thru Sunday, but I was a lucky one.  I had an ER room.  One woman spent 70 hours in the hallway before having surgery. They had to release me once I stabilized, which was before the infection was clear.  Friday my doctor sent me back, but this time I've been lucky enough to have a room since Sunday. Healthcare was being pushed to the limits before Covid. Now it's crumbling and getting worse.

These nurses, they deserve all the credit.  They're still doing everything they can under the circumstances, and going above and beyond when possible. It's amazing to see, and they are my heroes.


Are you tryna say you had a stroke???!!!???
 
2022-01-24 9:23:55 PM  

punishmentforshoplifting: I'm sure Va isn't far behind since Governor Stupid McfarkFace rescinded the mask mandate in schools. Sociopathic worthless sack of shiat. Why yes, I do live in a district that just voted to give parents the choice of masking their kids or not.


Switch to KN-95s and guard your own. I'm about to have to do that myself, even though mine're vaxxed (and boosted, where applicable).
 
2022-01-24 9:31:42 PM  

bondage_donkey: punishmentforshoplifting: I'm sure Va isn't far behind since Governor Stupid McfarkFace rescinded the mask mandate in schools. Sociopathic worthless sack of shiat. Why yes, I do live in a district that just voted to give parents the choice of masking their kids or not.

Switch to KN-95s and guard your own. I'm about to have to do that myself, even though mine're vaxxed (and boosted, where applicable).


My son (10 years old with two Pfizers) has been wearing KN95s all school year but now I'm switching him to N95s w a tighter seal around his face. Husband and I (three Pfizer's each) will continue to wear KN95s everywhere except higher risk places where we'll wear N95s.
 
2022-01-24 9:37:10 PM  

misanthropicsob: BlippityBleep: Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.

As of Jan 4, King County is at 84.3% of people 12+ being fully vaccinated and Washington State is at 74%. (Link)

Booster status not reported.


FTFA:
Before the omicron surge, unvaccinated King County residents were nine times more likely to be hospitalized and die, according to Public Health Seattle. During the omicron surge, unvaccinated people are now 12 times more likely to be hospitalized and 20 times more likely to die.

So, yeah, get your damn shots or GTFO of the hospitals and die at home eating horse paste.
 
2022-01-24 9:39:23 PM  

wage0048: Time to start discharging anyone who is not vaccinated.  Doesn't matter their condition - unvaccinated individuals should get pushed aside for the rare cases of vaccinated individuals who require hospitalization.


I've been told this is "unethical," while infesting hospitals with willfully un-protected people belching disease everywhere and getting others sick and potentially killing them is totally ethical and fine.
 
2022-01-24 9:41:09 PM  

rhodabear: Ii had a SIRS infection last week.  Went via ambulance to St. Francis in Hartford, CT. I was admitted, and spent the entire stay in the ER because they had no upstairs beds - Thursday thru Sunday, but I was a lucky one.  I had an ER room.  One woman spent 70 hours in the hallway before having surgery. They had to release me once I stabilized, which was before the infection was clear.  Friday my doctor sent me back, but this time I've been lucky enough to have a room since Sunday. Healthcare was being pushed to the limits before Covid. Now it's crumbling and getting worse.

These nurses, they deserve all the credit.  They're still doing everything they can under the circumstances, and going above and beyond when possible. It's amazing to see, and they are my heroes.


They should walk out.

It wouldn't take long before the system is begging for them back. Like, maybe hours, maybe. They can pay them what they're worth for once.

Hospitals underpay their medical personnel because they can guilt them into not walking away from their patients. It's evil.
 
2022-01-24 9:45:49 PM  

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Because Biden took his magic time machine back to 2020 to disseminate misinformation about the virus.
 
2022-01-24 9:47:12 PM  

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It's amazing how well plans go with half the population doing their best to counter them.  Stupid fascist virus-lover.
 
2022-01-24 9:47:21 PM  
Stop bringing in sick yokels from out in the sticks and reserve some space for people who actually pay taxes around here.
 
2022-01-24 9:51:28 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Stop bringing in sick yokels from out in the sticks and reserve some space for people who actually pay taxes around here.


This. I wonder how many of these assholes clogging up the hospitals with their death-breathing aren't actually even from the Seattle area.
 
2022-01-24 9:58:36 PM  

austerity101: wage0048: Time to start discharging anyone who is not vaccinated.  Doesn't matter their condition - unvaccinated individuals should get pushed aside for the rare cases of vaccinated individuals who require hospitalization.

I've been told this is "unethical," while infesting hospitals with willfully un-protected people belching disease everywhere and getting others sick and potentially killing them is totally ethical and fine.


It would violate medical ethics for hospitals to deny treatment. That's why there should be private security and/or National Guard outside the building to screen people before entry and redirect the willingly unvaccinated people to a tent in the parking lot.
 
2022-01-24 10:06:44 PM  

WTP 2: make more beds...


Why don't poor people just buy more money?
 
2022-01-24 10:09:00 PM  
I was lucky to get a bed in this hospital but it's not a private room so I'm in here with a roommate like a farking pleb.  THANKS ANTIVAXXERS.

Kidding.  Having some pancreatitis so chillin' here for a few days with this old black lady and I hope she tells me stories.
 
2022-01-24 10:14:25 PM  

BlippityBleep: Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.


We don't have centralized medical records.
 
2022-01-24 10:15:27 PM  

Ivo Shandor: austerity101: wage0048: Time to start discharging anyone who is not vaccinated.  Doesn't matter their condition - unvaccinated individuals should get pushed aside for the rare cases of vaccinated individuals who require hospitalization.

I've been told this is "unethical," while infesting hospitals with willfully un-protected people belching disease everywhere and getting others sick and potentially killing them is totally ethical and fine.

It would violate medical ethics for hospitals to deny treatment. That's why there should be private security and/or National Guard outside the building to screen people before entry and redirect the willingly unvaccinated people to a tent in the parking lot.


Yes, I definitely did not say that the unvaccinated should not be treated, to be clear. My solution is more akin to yours--keep them far away from everyone else.
 
2022-01-24 10:15:52 PM  

rhodabear: Ii had a SIRS infection last week.  Went via ambulance to St. Francis in Hartford, CT. I was admitted, and spent the entire stay in the ER because they had no upstairs beds - Thursday thru Sunday, but I was a lucky one.  I had an ER room.  One woman spent 70 hours in the hallway before having surgery. They had to release me once I stabilized, which was before the infection was clear.  Friday my doctor sent me back, but this time I've been lucky enough to have a room since Sunday. Healthcare was being pushed to the limits before Covid. Now it's crumbling and getting worse.

These nurses, they deserve all the credit.  They're still doing everything they can under the circumstances, and going above and beyond when possible. It's amazing to see, and they are my heroes.


People have no idea how close we are to a nearly total collapse of our system. Especially with these farking crazy conspiracy theorists who want to murder healthcare workers over their wild delusions that people are being killed on purpose in the hospital. If the staff in the hospital were actively killing people, the mortality rate would be nearly 100%. Hell, with COVID all it would take is turning their oxygen down.

Supplies are short, everything is always on back order, nurses are taking two or three times the normal amount of patients, damn near EVERYONE is coming down with COVID. It's bad. A lot of nurses are leaving and not coming back to the field at all.
 
2022-01-24 10:36:32 PM  

wage0048: Time to start discharging anyone who is not vaccinated.  Doesn't matter their condition - unvaccinated individuals should get pushed aside for the rare cases of vaccinated individuals who require hospitalization.


Their is an order for triage care & asking if someone is vaccinated is not and should not be on it.

Are the willfully unvaccinated complete pieces of shiat?  Yes.  do I believe they are 100% a dick?  Also, yes.
 
2022-01-24 10:44:57 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Have you seen what nurses are making right now?   There are several places across the country offering contracts to RNs for 10k a month.

Even if you stay in your local area, you can get a contract for 90-100 bucks an hour at a lot of hospitals (same places paid 30 an hour pre pandemic)

There are enough crises and tragedies going on, you don't actually need to make your own up


So tell me what kind of job would it have to be for people to turn it down and do something less money? Why do you think that even that amount of money is not worth it to so many nurses?
 
2022-01-24 10:51:29 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: BlippityBleep: Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.

They probably have that info, but I bet it doesn't skew as heavily as you'd think towards unvaccinated (probably why it isn't published)

85% of King County was already fully vaccinated.

https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination.aspx

That's easily supposed to be over the level that would stop community spread (herd immunity level).

Lot of vaccinated people getting infected there.


This.

They are doing the same here now in Australia, not mentioning vaccinated vs not vaccinated. Back when they were I recall that around half the people in ICU were vaccinated. This provided ammunition for the small but vocal anti-vaxxer groups ("See, the vaccines don't even work"). What they failed to note was that with around 90% or so of adults vaccinated, the unvaccinated were definitely over-represented in ICU. But you know, math is hard.

However, it is also true that being vaccinated only reduces your chances of serious illness or death from covid, it doesn't guarantee it.

So anyone feeling confident because you are vaccinated and boostered, and thinking only unvaccinated people are dying, think again, vaccinated people can, and are, also dying from this. This is not a case of only the wicked anti-vaxxers getting their just desserts.
 
2022-01-24 10:56:55 PM  

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So you are all for mandatory vaccines I assume?
 
2022-01-24 11:01:31 PM  

Raoul Eaton: cyberspacedout: Tom Marvolo Bombadil: WyDave: As opposed to summer fashion trends, which have left Seattleites sleeveless.

Or the supply chain shortage of stainless steel netting that left many sieveless in Seattle.

Churches without bell towers are steepleless in Seattle.

It's illegal to keep livestock in the city, so I'm sheepless in Seattle.


That's not true. My friend's sheep got loose the other day and she went looking for them but hasn't come back.

I'm Bo Peepless in Seattle.
 
2022-01-24 11:04:35 PM  

Nidiot: GrizzlyPouch: BlippityBleep: Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.

They probably have that info, but I bet it doesn't skew as heavily as you'd think towards unvaccinated (probably why it isn't published)

85% of King County was already fully vaccinated.

https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination.aspx

That's easily supposed to be over the level that would stop community spread (herd immunity level).

Lot of vaccinated people getting infected there.

This.

They are doing the same here now in Australia, not mentioning vaccinated vs not vaccinated. Back when they were I recall that around half the people in ICU were vaccinated. This provided ammunition for the small but vocal anti-vaxxer groups ("See, the vaccines don't even work"). What they failed to note was that with around 90% or so of adults vaccinated, the unvaccinated were definitely over-represented in ICU. But you know, math is hard.

However, it is also true that being vaccinated only reduces your chances of serious illness or death from covid, it doesn't guarantee it.

So anyone feeling confident because you are vaccinated and boostered, and thinking only unvaccinated people are dying, think again, vaccinated people can, and are, also dying from this. This is not a case of only the wicked anti-vaxxers getting their just desserts.


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2022-01-24 11:05:17 PM  
Quote from another story: "Our hospitals are bursting at the seams," she said. "But they're not filled with COVID-19 patients. Remarkably, they are filled with patients who do not need hospital care."

Also, NPR has a bed usage search which shows most hospitals in Kings County are using 25% or fewer of their beds for COVID patients. Getting really tired of the lies.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours
 
2022-01-24 11:05:56 PM  

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So you are all for mandatory vaccines I assume?


Considering I'm boostered and I've never once been anti-vaxx, I'll invite you to take your "AH HA" slippery slope conversation and shove it.

Although I have said some uncomfortable truths that people don't like hearing but have turned out to be disasterously true, such as vaccines to not 100% prevent infection and spread and we should lockdown in the case of another wave and PAY people to lockdown.

But, you know, that's socialism.
 
2022-01-24 11:07:42 PM  

punishmentforshoplifting: bondage_donkey: punishmentforshoplifting: I'm sure Va isn't far behind since Governor Stupid McfarkFace rescinded the mask mandate in schools. Sociopathic worthless sack of shiat. Why yes, I do live in a district that just voted to give parents the choice of masking their kids or not.

Switch to KN-95s and guard your own. I'm about to have to do that myself, even though mine're vaxxed (and boosted, where applicable).

My son (10 years old with two Pfizers) has been wearing KN95s all school year but now I'm switching him to N95s w a tighter seal around his face. Husband and I (three Pfizer's each) will continue to wear KN95s everywhere except higher risk places where we'll wear N95s.


You have mental health issues and should seek help.
 
2022-01-24 11:10:32 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: Quote from another story: "Our hospitals are bursting at the seams," she said. "But they're not filled with COVID-19 patients. Remarkably, they are filled with patients who do not need hospital care."

Also, NPR has a bed usage search which shows most hospitals in Kings County are using 25% or fewer of their beds for COVID patients. Getting really tired of the lies.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours


Alright...I'll bite...

Then, who are they filled by?
 
2022-01-24 11:10:55 PM  

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Notice it says "with" and not "because of". The media tried this crap with the "kids surge" and even Fauci said most of the pediatric cases are incidental. In other words, kids are in the hospital for other reasons. Similar situation with adults.

Using "with" is how you lie even when technically telling the truth.
 
2022-01-24 11:13:52 PM  

bobbyjoebobby: Quote from another story: "Our hospitals are bursting at the seams," she said. "But they're not filled with COVID-19 patients. Remarkably, they are filled with patients who do not need hospital care."

Also, NPR has a bed usage search which shows most hospitals in Kings County are using 25% or fewer of their beds for COVID patients. Getting really tired of the lies.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours


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2022-01-24 11:14:08 PM  

misanthropicsob: BlippityBleep: Why is it so damn impossible to break out hospitalizations by vaccination status as a standard.

As of Jan 4, King County is at 84.3% of people 12+ being fully vaccinated and Washington State is at 74%. (Link)

Booster status not reported.


Just a pointer: King County's population is around 2.2M, or ~352,000 not vaccinated. If 1% of people get really sick, that's 3500, both of which are in line with reality.

Some friends (a family) in King County found Omicron, all vaxed and over it in a day.
 
2022-01-24 11:55:54 PM  
if you say that the unvaxed should be put in the parking lot because of a bed shortage...

if the shots,s,s work so well, why are they in the hospital anyway ???
 
2022-01-25 12:20:07 AM  

WTP 2: if you say that the unvaxed should be put in the parking lot because of a bed shortage...

if the shots,s,s work so well, why are they in the hospital anyway ???


Many people need a bed for non-COVID conditions like heart attacks or car crashes, in addition to the small percentage of vaccinated patients who are unlucky enough to end up with a severe case of COVID despite their best efforts to avoid it.
 
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