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2022-01-24 1:27:28 PM  
It was a fun game. It was an entertaining game. But a great game?

More like a let's-see-what-happens-if-we-don't-play-defense-the-last-two-minutes game.
 
2022-01-24 2:09:29 PM  

edmo: It was a fun game. It was an entertaining game. But a great game?

More like a let's-see-what-happens-if-we-don't-play-defense-the-last-two-minutes game.


Well then you'll never had a "great game" if there isn't some sort of flaw being exposed.

Every score and every stop is a result of the opposite force "failing."
 
2022-01-24 2:10:12 PM  

downstairs: edmo: It was a fun game. It was an entertaining game. But a great game?

More like a let's-see-what-happens-if-we-don't-play-defense-the-last-two-minutes game.

Well then you'll never had a "great game" if there isn't some sort of flaw being exposed.

Every score and every stop is a result of the opposite force "failing."


"never had" = "never have"

/English
 
2022-01-24 2:25:09 PM  
It was certainly a game for the ages.

Though I'd be upset if the Bills defensive failures changed the rules to mess with overtime.
 
2022-01-24 3:05:00 PM  
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2022-01-24 3:31:06 PM  

Gubbo: It was certainly a game for the ages.

Though I'd be upset if the Bills defensive failures changed the rules to mess with overtime.


Heard on the Simmons Pod an idea that I thought sounded good.

If the first team scores a touchdown, the opposing team has an equal number of plays it took to score a touchdown.

So if it took the Chiefs 5 plays to get the TD, the Bills would have just 5 plays to score theirs or...game over.
 
2022-01-24 3:43:49 PM  

Sorelian's Ghost: Gubbo: It was certainly a game for the ages.

Though I'd be upset if the Bills defensive failures changed the rules to mess with overtime.

Heard on the Simmons Pod an idea that I thought sounded good.

If the first team scores a touchdown, the opposing team has an equal number of plays it took to score a touchdown.

So if it took the Chiefs 5 plays to get the TD, the Bills would have just 5 plays to score theirs or...game over.


That sounds like the original XFL's overtime format:  1st and goal from the 10, no field goals, and if the first team to have the ball scores, the other team has to top it.
 
2022-01-24 3:47:52 PM  

Sorelian's Ghost: Gubbo: It was certainly a game for the ages.

Though I'd be upset if the Bills defensive failures changed the rules to mess with overtime.

Heard on the Simmons Pod an idea that I thought sounded good.

If the first team scores a touchdown, the opposing team has an equal number of plays it took to score a touchdown.

So if it took the Chiefs 5 plays to get the TD, the Bills would have just 5 plays to score theirs or...game over.


Defenses are tired after being on the field for 5.5 minutes of actual play time, but expecting them to not give up a touchdown in overtime isn't an unreasonable measure for whether your team should win or lose.

People thought winning on a field goal with the other team not getting a chance to posses was unfair and unsatisfactory. Now we have the "first touchdown or any time a team is leading after both teams have had at least 1 possession" version.

We can keep moving the objective, but at some point a winner will need to be declared and either you go to the college football version or you accept winning the coin toss does give a slight advantage.
 
2022-01-24 3:54:28 PM  

tedduque: Sorelian's Ghost: Gubbo: It was certainly a game for the ages.

Though I'd be upset if the Bills defensive failures changed the rules to mess with overtime.

Heard on the Simmons Pod an idea that I thought sounded good.

If the first team scores a touchdown, the opposing team has an equal number of plays it took to score a touchdown.

So if it took the Chiefs 5 plays to get the TD, the Bills would have just 5 plays to score theirs or...game over.

Defenses are tired after being on the field for 5.5 minutes of actual play time, but expecting them to not give up a touchdown in overtime isn't an unreasonable measure for whether your team should win or lose.

People thought winning on a field goal with the other team not getting a chance to posses was unfair and unsatisfactory. Now we have the "first touchdown or any time a team is leading after both teams have had at least 1 possession" version.

We can keep moving the objective, but at some point a winner will need to be declared and either you go to the college football version or you accept winning the coin toss does give a slight advantage.


You could have a tie and then the next week's opponents have to play both clubs at the same time!
 
2022-01-24 3:57:40 PM  
I so wanted the Bills to win. Regardless, it was a fun game.

/Poor Buffalo 🙁
//You'll win the big one soon
///First world problems
 
2022-01-24 4:08:56 PM  
It was an amazing game. I still cannot believe the Bills f*cked up a sure fire win in just 13 seconds.
 
2022-01-24 4:10:45 PM  
I don't see a problem with overtime. Both teams had a fair shot to score all necessary points during regular time. If you punt, you are choosing to end one of your possessions. It's kind of strange for people to make a case for the Bills getting a shot at scoring in overtime when they punted 4 times in the game. In my view, overtime only serves one purpose- designating the winner. The quickest, simplest route to that is the best route. What purpose would have been served watching these teams each score 4 more touchdowns in overtime? Other than allowing us to watch a hilariously over the top scorefest that is.
 
2022-01-24 4:15:32 PM  

tnpir: It was an amazing game. I still cannot believe the Bills f*cked up a sure fire win in just 13 seconds.


Two words...squib kick.

Then first play from scrimmage grab Kelce and Hill and don't let go.

Then prevent defense on the last play.
 
2022-01-24 4:18:10 PM  

jaylectricity: tnpir: It was an amazing game. I still cannot believe the Bills f*cked up a sure fire win in just 13 seconds.

Two words...squib kick.

Then first play from scrimmage grab Kelce and Hill and don't let go.

Then prevent defense on the last play.


Yep.
 
2022-01-24 4:23:32 PM  
Mike Hughes and L'Jarius Sneed might disagree with that headline.  They won and still probably won't sleep well ever again.
 
2022-01-24 4:26:23 PM  
I don't know much about the rules of football so please forgive what may be the dumbest of questions:
Would it have been possible for the Bills to snap the ball on the point after attempt, but then have whomever got the ball just run around and avoid tackles for as long as possible to run more time off the clock, instead of simply kicking the extra point?
 
2022-01-24 4:30:54 PM  

muphasta: I don't know much about the rules of football so please forgive what may be the dumbest of questions:
Would it have been possible for the Bills to snap the ball on the point after attempt, but then have whomever got the ball just run around and avoid tackles for as long as possible to run more time off the clock, instead of simply kicking the extra point?


The clock doesn't run.  It's known as an untimed down.
 
2022-01-24 4:35:25 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: muphasta: I don't know much about the rules of football so please forgive what may be the dumbest of questions:
Would it have been possible for the Bills to snap the ball on the point after attempt, but then have whomever got the ball just run around and avoid tackles for as long as possible to run more time off the clock, instead of simply kicking the extra point?

The clock doesn't run.  It's known as an untimed down.


ahhh.... OK. I figured it was something like that, but didn't know. 
And now I know... "Knowing is half the battle" (G.I. Joe).
 
2022-01-24 4:36:19 PM  
Some pass plays can't be defended. Receivers can always make enough space for a really good pass that's quick enough to avoid any pass rush.
 
2022-01-24 4:41:19 PM  
I see crap like that all the time playing Madden 22 on my Xbox.

/disclaimer: don't actually have an xbox
//if I did, that's probably what I'd see, though
 
2022-01-24 4:53:18 PM  
Bills can here:  I'm fine with the current rules as is. We lost fair and square and the reason we lost is because prevent defense literally never works and fark Frazier for calling it. Why anyone calls prevent defense is inexcusable

Gratz to the chiefs. Might skip watching next year.  That game was not good for my health
 
2022-01-24 4:56:47 PM  
Have the first possession in overtime settled at the beginning of the game. May result in fewer overtime games.
 
2022-01-24 5:14:04 PM  

muphasta: I don't know much about the rules of football so please forgive what may be the dumbest of questions:
Would it have been possible for the Bills to snap the ball on the point after attempt, but then have whomever got the ball just run around and avoid tackles for as long as possible to run more time off the clock, instead of simply kicking the extra point?


Clock doesn't run during the extra point attempt.
 
2022-01-24 5:22:10 PM  

tedduque: Defenses are tired after being on the field for 5.5 minutes of actual play time, but expecting them to not give up a touchdown in overtime isn't an unreasonable measure for whether your team should win or lose.


This.

These are pros. The highest skilled players that play the game. They are paid millions of dollars on the idea that whenever the team needs them to make a stop, they'll make the stop.

I don't get the argument that overtime rules need to be changed because defenses are tired. Aren't the offensive players just as tired?
 
2022-01-24 5:51:34 PM  
I was rooting for the Bills because I wanted new blood to win and the Bengals uniforms are too ugly to cheer for. I cant much root for anyone left, SF and LA are division rivals of my AZ Cruds. Now Im left with cheering on the Chiefs I guess. Mahomes seems like a good guy, but so did Rogers until this season.
 
2022-01-24 6:14:21 PM  

tnpir: It was an amazing game. I still cannot believe the Bills f*cked up a sure fire win in just 13 seconds.


It's possible, when you're playing against a high talent level, that you might not f*ck up at all and still lose.  Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill were in the zone last night.  Make a squib kick and bleed four more seconds off the clock, and Mahomes and the receivers still might have made the plays.
 
2022-01-24 8:18:32 PM  

joepennerlives: tnpir: It was an amazing game. I still cannot believe the Bills f*cked up a sure fire win in just 13 seconds.

It's possible, when you're playing against a high talent level, that you might not f*ck up at all and still lose.  Mahomes, Kelce, and Hill were in the zone last night.  Make a squib kick and bleed four more seconds off the clock, and Mahomes and the receivers still might have made the plays.


Yeah, I've seen enough NFL games to know that if a team has proven they can score, and score quick, then leaving them a few seconds on the clock means it's not a sure fire win. Against a team like that, only a lead with 0 seconds on the clock is a sure fire win. Mahomes had already proven that on multiple occasions.
 
2022-01-24 8:35:55 PM  

tnpir: It was an amazing game. I still cannot believe the Bills f*cked up a sure fire win in just 13 seconds.


I've been a Bills fan my whole life. I completely believe it, after many years of hard experience.

That wasn't even the shortest amount of time left when the Bills blew a lead in a playoff game. Remember the Music City Miracle?  The Bills were on the wrong end of that one too.

We have experience with absolutely heart-wrenching, improbable losses in big games.
 
2022-01-24 9:01:13 PM  
I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.
 
2022-01-24 9:38:37 PM  

BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.


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2022-01-24 9:42:12 PM  

BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.


He's also at least 30 pounds lighter than just about every player on the defense. That's more than enough incentive to run.
 
2022-01-24 10:00:39 PM  

Incident on 57th Street: BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.

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I heard some talk about how that should have been called taunting and the penalty being enforced from the "spot of the foul".

#1 I would hate for that to be called. I'm not alone in thinking all these taunting penalties are dumb. I am for a version of the taunting penalty, but the threshold is nowhere near where they're calling it.

#2 Had they called it, the Bills probably don't get the ball back.
 
2022-01-24 10:52:48 PM  

jaylectricity: Incident on 57th Street: BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.

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I heard some talk about how that should have been called taunting and the penalty being enforced from the "spot of the foul".

#1 I would hate for that to be called. I'm not alone in thinking all these taunting penalties are dumb. I am for a version of the taunting penalty, but the threshold is nowhere near where they're calling it.

#2 Had they called it, the Bills probably don't get the ball back.


Hill was called for this on a touchdown in a previous game. The touchdown stood, the Chiefs kicked off from the 20. I'm surprised he did it again. He was also fined $10k for that. He might get fined again, like he did for his pom-pom dance against the Steelers.
 
2022-01-24 11:00:56 PM  

Spectrum: jaylectricity: Incident on 57th Street: BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.

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I heard some talk about how that should have been called taunting and the penalty being enforced from the "spot of the foul".

#1 I would hate for that to be called. I'm not alone in thinking all these taunting penalties are dumb. I am for a version of the taunting penalty, but the threshold is nowhere near where they're calling it.

#2 Had they called it, the Bills probably don't get the ball back.

Hill was called for this on a touchdown in a previous game. The touchdown stood, the Chiefs kicked off from the 20. I'm surprised he did it again. He was also fined $10k for that. He might get fined again, like he did for his pom-pom dance against the Steelers.


So they don't call the taunting in real time, then. They can add it to the kickoff or PAT or whatever.
 
2022-01-24 11:11:54 PM  

jaylectricity: Spectrum: jaylectricity: Incident on 57th Street: BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.

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I heard some talk about how that should have been called taunting and the penalty being enforced from the "spot of the foul".

#1 I would hate for that to be called. I'm not alone in thinking all these taunting penalties are dumb. I am for a version of the taunting penalty, but the threshold is nowhere near where they're calling it.

#2 Had they called it, the Bills probably don't get the ball back.

Hill was called for this on a touchdown in a previous game. The touchdown stood, the Chiefs kicked off from the 20. I'm surprised he did it again. He was also fined $10k for that. He might get fined again, like he did for his pom-pom dance against the Steelers.

So they don't call the taunting in real time, then. They can add it to the kickoff or PAT or whatever.


Yes, or from the end of a non-scoring play. I believe the college rule is a spot foul, or at least it used to be. And really it's pretty rare. Most taunts are after the play.
 
2022-01-24 11:26:59 PM  

Spectrum: jaylectricity: Spectrum: jaylectricity: Incident on 57th Street: BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.

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I heard some talk about how that should have been called taunting and the penalty being enforced from the "spot of the foul".

#1 I would hate for that to be called. I'm not alone in thinking all these taunting penalties are dumb. I am for a version of the taunting penalty, but the threshold is nowhere near where they're calling it.

#2 Had they called it, the Bills probably don't get the ball back.

Hill was called for this on a touchdown in a previous game. The touchdown stood, the Chiefs kicked off from the 20. I'm surprised he did it again. He was also fined $10k for that. He might get fined again, like he did for his pom-pom dance against the Steelers.

So they don't call the taunting in real time, then. They can add it to the kickoff or PAT or whatever.

Yes, or from the end of a non-scoring play. I believe the college rule is a spot foul, or at least it used to be. And really it's pretty rare. Most taunts are after the play.


Do you agree the taunting threshold is too low? I get not wanting a guy to sack the QB and stand over him screaming, "I'll f*ck you up, don't you ever feel safe cuz I'm coming for you! I'll put my dick in your ass if you turn your back to me!"

And maybe some particular slurs. But just looking at your opponent can be a penalty? It would take you being Medusa for me to think any kind of staredown should be penalized.

I mean, part of all sports is one person talking shiat to another person that they just bested, or they're about to best, or they're losing by a lot and they're trying to find a way back into the fight.
 
2022-01-24 11:45:15 PM  

jaylectricity: Spectrum: jaylectricity: Spectrum: jaylectricity: Incident on 57th Street: BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.

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I heard some talk about how that should have been called taunting and the penalty being enforced from the "spot of the foul".

#1 I would hate for that to be called. I'm not alone in thinking all these taunting penalties are dumb. I am for a version of the taunting penalty, but the threshold is nowhere near where they're calling it.

#2 Had they called it, the Bills probably don't get the ball back.

Hill was called for this on a touchdown in a previous game. The touchdown stood, the Chiefs kicked off from the 20. I'm surprised he did it again. He was also fined $10k for that. He might get fined again, like he did for his pom-pom dance against the Steelers.

So they don't call the taunting in real time, then. They can add it to the kickoff or PAT or whatever.

Yes, or from the end of a non-scoring play. I believe the college rule is a spot foul, or at least it used to be. And really it's pretty rare. Most taunts are after the play.

Do you agree the taunting threshold is too low? I get not wanting a guy to sack the QB and stand over him screaming, "I'll f*ck you up, don't you ever feel safe cuz I'm coming for you! I'll put my dick in your ass if you turn your back to me!"

And maybe some particular slurs. But just looking at your opponent can be a penalty? It would take you being Medusa for me to think any kind of staredown should be penalized.

I mean, part of all sports is one person talking shiat to another person that they just bested, or they're about to best, or they're losing by a lot and they're trying to find a way back into the fight.


Yeah, way too low. The rule has been on the books for years, but this season it was made a "point of emphasis" for some reason. Like you, I think it needs to be blatantly unsportsmanlike to get a flag, and most are not.
 
2022-01-25 5:38:19 PM  

Spectrum: jaylectricity: Spectrum: jaylectricity: Spectrum: jaylectricity: Incident on 57th Street: BrianGriffin: I cannot remember seeing an NFL player literally run away from defenders the way Hill did on that long TD...it's like he was running and they were jogging. Holy shiat...that guy is farkin' fast! I mean, Bob Hayes fast.

[Fark user image 850x850]

I heard some talk about how that should have been called taunting and the penalty being enforced from the "spot of the foul".

#1 I would hate for that to be called. I'm not alone in thinking all these taunting penalties are dumb. I am for a version of the taunting penalty, but the threshold is nowhere near where they're calling it.

#2 Had they called it, the Bills probably don't get the ball back.

Hill was called for this on a touchdown in a previous game. The touchdown stood, the Chiefs kicked off from the 20. I'm surprised he did it again. He was also fined $10k for that. He might get fined again, like he did for his pom-pom dance against the Steelers.

So they don't call the taunting in real time, then. They can add it to the kickoff or PAT or whatever.

Yes, or from the end of a non-scoring play. I believe the college rule is a spot foul, or at least it used to be. And really it's pretty rare. Most taunts are after the play.

Do you agree the taunting threshold is too low? I get not wanting a guy to sack the QB and stand over him screaming, "I'll f*ck you up, don't you ever feel safe cuz I'm coming for you! I'll put my dick in your ass if you turn your back to me!"

And maybe some particular slurs. But just looking at your opponent can be a penalty? It would take you being Medusa for me to think any kind of staredown should be penalized.

I mean, part of all sports is one person talking shiat to another person that they just bested, or they're about to best, or they're losing by a lot and they're trying to find a way back into the fight.

Yeah, way too low. The rule has been on the books for years, but this season ...


Totally agree. When did football become so concerned about the players' feelings???? These are all  millionaires...fark' em if they can't stand some trash-talking. The epitome of a pointless taunting call this season was, and I don't remember the player or team, but all the guy did was glare at the opposing sideline. That was it. No hand gestures...just glaring. Honestly...can you imagine guys like Ray Nitschke and Dick Butkus playing nowadays!

Honestly, they allow elaborate multi-player "celebrations" of TDs but saying something like "Get used to my beating yer ass all day" is a penalty.
 
2022-01-25 7:13:41 PM  

BrianGriffin: Totally agree. When did football become so concerned about the players' feelings???? These are all  millionaires...fark' em if they can't stand some trash-talking. The epitome of a pointless taunting call this season was, and I don't remember the player or team, but all the guy did was glare at the opposing sideline. That was it. No hand gestures...just glaring. Honestly...can you imagine guys like Ray Nitschke and Dick Butkus playing nowadays!

Honestly, they allow elaborate multi-player "celebrations" of TDs but saying something like "Get used to my beating yer ass all day" is a penalty.


To be honest, the 'no taunting' started in college football in the 80's when Miami started running roughshod and triggered brawls.  They're trying to prevent that more than anything.
 
2022-01-25 9:14:59 PM  

buckeyebrain: BrianGriffin: Totally agree. When did football become so concerned about the players' feelings???? These are all  millionaires...fark' em if they can't stand some trash-talking. The epitome of a pointless taunting call this season was, and I don't remember the player or team, but all the guy did was glare at the opposing sideline. That was it. No hand gestures...just glaring. Honestly...can you imagine guys like Ray Nitschke and Dick Butkus playing nowadays!

Honestly, they allow elaborate multi-player "celebrations" of TDs but saying something like "Get used to my beating yer ass all day" is a penalty.

To be honest, the 'no taunting' started in college football in the 80's when Miami started running roughshod and triggered brawls.  They're trying to prevent that more than anything.


Yeah, but they're calling it for shiat that most guys wouldn't bat an eyelash about. Like I said earlier:

jaylectricity: I get not wanting a guy to sack the QB and stand over him screaming, "I'll f*ck you up, don't you ever feel safe cuz I'm coming for you! I'll put my dick in your ass if you turn your back to me!"

And maybe some particular slurs. But just looking at your opponent can be a penalty? It would take you being Medusa for me to think any kind of staredown should be penalized.

 
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