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2022-01-24 4:00:38 AM  
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Was the bill sponsored by one Rep. C Montgomery Burns?
 
2022-01-24 8:32:11 AM  
Again?

Damn.
 
2022-01-24 8:33:08 AM  
That'll teach the sun to teach CRT and have a vaccine mandate to visit it.
 
2022-01-24 8:34:38 AM  
This is literally just to "stiggin' it to the libs".

So much for freedumb.
 
2022-01-24 8:36:58 AM  
Dumb assholes.
 
2022-01-24 8:38:55 AM  
Eventually fuel costs will triple in the next 5 years.
 
2022-01-24 8:39:57 AM  
My desire to not live in Florida is reaching a middle.
 
2022-01-24 8:41:09 AM  

mistahtom: Eventually fuel costs will triple in the next 5 years.


You'll pay it and like t
 
2022-01-24 8:41:13 AM  
"Jennifer Bradley, a Republican"

I'm gonna need another fainting couch at this rate...
 
2022-01-24 8:41:19 AM  
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2022-01-24 8:42:05 AM  
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DeSantis say boss man say it's too bright. It's a Librul sun.
 
2022-01-24 8:44:36 AM  
A draft version of the bill Bradley introduced was delivered to her by a Florida Power & Light lobbyist on October 18, according to emails first reported by the Miami Herald and provided to CNN by the Energy and Policy Institute, a watchdog organization that targets fossil fuel and utility interests.Two days later, Florida Power & Light's parent company, NextEra Energy, made a $10,000 donation to Women Building the Future, a political committee affiliated with Bradley, according to state campaign finance records. The committee received another $10,000 contribution from NextEra in December, those records show.lol. duh.
 
2022-01-24 8:46:41 AM  
Worst headline ever by CNN??
 
2022-01-24 8:46:53 AM  

cleek: A draft version of the bill Bradley introduced was delivered to her by a Florida Power & Light lobbyist on October 18, according to emails first reported by the Miami Herald and provided to CNN by the Energy and Policy Institute, a watchdog organization that targets fossil fuel and utility interests.Two days later, Florida Power & Light's parent company, NextEra Energy, made a $10,000 donation to Women Building the Future, a political committee affiliated with Bradley, according to state campaign finance records. The committee received another $10,000 contribution from NextEra in December, those records show.lol. duh.


Thats a pretty obvious bribe, and cheap too!
 
2022-01-24 8:49:19 AM  
Retrofitting individual homes with solar panels doesn't really seem scalable - the cost is like $20k per home. Using all of those tax incentives to build more solar and wind farms seems more cost effective (not that I expect a red state to do the right thing).
 
2022-01-24 8:53:26 AM  
Getting reimbursed at exactly the same amount that you are charged?  If true as written, the industry is correct that it is unfair because there is the cost of distribution that doesn't seem to be accounted for.  However, 75% rate cut seems...unrealistic.  Does distribution account for 75% of each electric bill?

How about this for fair - the homes get paid the KWH hour that is the same as any power station?  So Orlando coal plant generates 100,000,000 KWH and gets paid $X.  That would mean that Orlando homeowner who generates 1,000 KWH gets paid $X/100,000.
 
2022-01-24 8:53:29 AM  
You'd think that Elon Musk and environmental groups would expand their political donations to counter this.

There are 160 legislators in Florida. At $10,000 each that's only $1.6 million. Elon has that in his couch cushions.
 
2022-01-24 8:55:53 AM  
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2022-01-24 8:58:11 AM  
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2022-01-24 8:58:52 AM  
Grifters gonna grift. Are there any honest people left in the GQP? Or in Florida?
 
2022-01-24 8:59:27 AM  
Legislators in the great red land of Ohio tried some anti-solar bills a couple of years ago. But the pro-solar lobbies were strong and fought back hard. Next thing you know several legislators suddenly have family members sitting on boards of solar companies and it's never been spoken of again.
 
2022-01-24 9:00:46 AM  
I'm surprised they didn't say that the solar power is communistical.
 
2022-01-24 9:03:33 AM  
Florida Power & Light says solar customers cost its 5.5 million non-solar customers $30 million a year -- or about 50 cents a month -- and the amount will nearly triple by 2025 and continue to grow as solars popularity spreads.

Fifty cents a month? That's it?  On my BGE bill last month I was charged $40.26 for 'delivery' of the electricity to my house and that didn't include the cost of the actual electricity used.

Fifty cents a month won't even be noticed since the electric companies are always jacking costs up with new 'fees' and 'taxes'.
 
2022-01-24 9:06:33 AM  

goodncold: This is literally just to "stiggin' it to the libs".

So much for freedumb.


No, this is literally to keep the fountain of money running.
 
2022-01-24 9:10:55 AM  

Interceptor1: Florida Power & Light says solar customers cost its 5.5 million non-solar customers $30 million a year -- or about 50 cents a month -- and the amount will nearly triple by 2025 and continue to grow as solars popularity spreads.

Fifty cents a month? That's it?  On my BGE bill last month I was charged $40.26 for 'delivery' of the electricity to my house and that didn't include the cost of the actual electricity used.

Fifty cents a month won't even be noticed since the electric companies are always jacking costs up with new 'fees' and 'taxes'.


So if your bill passes you can promise that in 2027 my FPL bill will be no more than $0.50 per month more than it is now.  Is that correct, Senator?
 
2022-01-24 9:13:49 AM  

goodncold: This is literally just to "stiggin' it to the libs".

So much for freedumb.


I visit a buddy down there often. The area is crawling with MAGA fans and they've all got solar. You'd think they'd be objecting.

Oh well, the important thign is to subvert the free market to prop up those poor mom and pop utilities.
 
2022-01-24 9:16:02 AM  
The will of King Reagan be done.
 
2022-01-24 9:19:40 AM  
Here in Pa, net metering doesn't have any effect on the wheeling fees (what you get charged by the power cfo to supply the elec. and maintain the grid and plants). You get charged that flat fee every month whether you have solar or not. I don't know if Floriduh is the same but it probably is so FL Power and Light is being more than a little disingenuous.
 
2022-01-24 9:19:59 AM  
That place cant sink fast enough.
 
2022-01-24 9:20:32 AM  

Dack48: cleek: A draft version of the bill Bradley introduced was delivered to her by a Florida Power & Light lobbyist on October 18, according to emails first reported by the Miami Herald and provided to CNN by the Energy and Policy Institute, a watchdog organization that targets fossil fuel and utility interests.Two days later, Florida Power & Light's parent company, NextEra Energy, made a $10,000 donation to Women Building the Future, a political committee affiliated with Bradley, according to state campaign finance records. The committee received another $10,000 contribution from NextEra in December, those records show.lol. duh.

Thats a pretty obvious bribe, and cheap too!


That's not a bribe, that's Free Speech!
 
2022-01-24 9:21:20 AM  

Zippercole: Interceptor1: Florida Power & Light says solar customers cost its 5.5 million non-solar customers $30 million a year -- or about 50 cents a month -- and the amount will nearly triple by 2025 and continue to grow as solars popularity spreads.

Fifty cents a month? That's it?  On my BGE bill last month I was charged $40.26 for 'delivery' of the electricity to my house and that didn't include the cost of the actual electricity used.

Fifty cents a month won't even be noticed since the electric companies are always jacking costs up with new 'fees' and 'taxes'.

So if your bill passes you can promise that in 2027 my FPL bill will be no more than $0.50 per month more than it is now.  Is that correct, Senator?


No, read again - it's predicted to TRIPLE!

...to $1.50, by 2025. Even if it triples again by 2027, you're paying $4.50. For comparison, the power company I'm part owner of (it's a co-op) charges $4.25 for one-time online payments by credit card.
 
2022-01-24 9:30:38 AM  

sleze: Getting reimbursed at exactly the same amount that you are charged?  If true as written, the industry is correct that it is unfair because there is the cost of distribution that doesn't seem to be accounted for.  However, 75% rate cut seems...unrealistic.  Does distribution account for 75% of each electric bill?

How about this for fair - the homes get paid the KWH hour that is the same as any power station?  So Orlando coal plant generates 100,000,000 KWH and gets paid $X.  That would mean that Orlando homeowner who generates 1,000 KWH gets paid $X/100,000.


EXACTLY!  Funny how they leave out that all these fly by night solar installation companies are making a fortune under the old law.  That's OK because they are in cahoots with the democrats.  But any change that means they have to carry some of the infrastructure and overhead costs and that is "evil republicans!"

All the suppliers should be paid at the same rate.  Such an evil Republican plan.
 
2022-01-24 9:31:37 AM  

sleze: Getting reimbursed at exactly the same amount that you are charged?  If true as written, the industry is correct that it is unfair because there is the cost of distribution that doesn't seem to be accounted for.  However, 75% rate cut seems...unrealistic.  Does distribution account for 75% of each electric bill?

How about this for fair - the homes get paid the KWH hour that is the same as any power station?  So Orlando coal plant generates 100,000,000 KWH and gets paid $X.  That would mean that Orlando homeowner who generates 1,000 KWH gets paid $X/100,000.


I'm never in favor of big business, but I agree.  there should be a base level you still pay every month, even if you're somehow lucky enough to power your whole home with solar.
 
2022-01-24 9:31:43 AM  

goodncold: This is literally just to "stiggin' it to the libs".

So much for freedumb.


What's funny to me is that my father in law, a staunch christian republican, is a huge proponent for solar and has a lot of panels set up.

Lives in Wesley Chapel, FL just north of Tampa.

In this particular case, he's voted against his own interests.
 
2022-01-24 9:36:08 AM  

Interceptor1: Florida Power & Light says solar customers cost its 5.5 million non-solar customers $30 million a year -- or about 50 cents a month -- and the amount will nearly triple by 2025 and continue to grow as solars popularity spreads.

Fifty cents a month? That's it?  On my BGE bill last month I was charged $40.26 for 'delivery' of the electricity to my house and that didn't include the cost of the actual electricity used.

Fifty cents a month won't even be noticed since the electric companies are always jacking costs up with new 'fees' and 'taxes'.


You can look at your state and county for the taxes. My summer natural gas bill in the summer usually has more tax charged than gas delivered.
 
2022-01-24 9:40:06 AM  
If we use up solar heating homes there won't be any for tourism.
 
2022-01-24 9:41:09 AM  
Look, libs, what happens if everyone switches to solar power and eventually we use up the sun?
 
2022-01-24 9:47:24 AM  

phedex: sleze: Getting reimbursed at exactly the same amount that you are charged?  If true as written, the industry is correct that it is unfair because there is the cost of distribution that doesn't seem to be accounted for.  However, 75% rate cut seems...unrealistic.  Does distribution account for 75% of each electric bill?

How about this for fair - the homes get paid the KWH hour that is the same as any power station?  So Orlando coal plant generates 100,000,000 KWH and gets paid $X.  That would mean that Orlando homeowner who generates 1,000 KWH gets paid $X/100,000.

I'm never in favor of big business, but I agree.  there should be a base level you still pay every month, even if you're somehow lucky enough to power your whole home with solar.


Are you people farking high?

If you power your entire home with just solar the government should give you a farking bonus.

What in the fark is wrong with your brains? Do you have an American flag wrapped around Supply Side Jesus just rammed into your farking ears?
 
2022-01-24 9:55:29 AM  
They tried attacking solar power similar to this in 2016 as a constitutional amendment with very misleading wording on the ballot.  https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2016/11/4/13485164/florida-amendment-1-explained

The voters' of Florida told them no.

So once again, this administration is ignoring the voters.  Just like they did with the felons voting and the medical marijuana.
 
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2022-01-24 10:01:09 AM  
It's about time Florida started modeling their governance after California.
 
2022-01-24 10:02:55 AM  
Meanwhile in Florida:
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2022-01-24 10:03:18 AM  
I bet she didn't even personally read the bill from the lobbyist.
 
2022-01-24 10:11:45 AM  
The sun is a Liberal conspiracy against poor mom and pop oil companies.
 
2022-01-24 10:12:58 AM  

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Was the bill sponsored by one Rep. C Montgomery Burns?


I literally watched these episodes yesterday.
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2022-01-24 10:13:25 AM  
Eh.  English Gothic Rock band Bauhaus did it first:

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2022-01-24 10:37:11 AM  

vilesithknight: Legislators in the great red land of Ohio tried some anti-solar bills a couple of years ago. But the pro-solar lobbies were strong and fought back hard. Next thing you know several legislators suddenly have family members sitting on boards of solar companies and it's never been spoken of again.


That is probably the real end game.  Republicans are threatening to do something, because they want no show jobs for their idiot family members,
 
2022-01-24 10:37:52 AM  

goodncold: This is literally just to "stiggin' it to the libs".

So much for freedumb.


That's all conservatives are these days.
 
2022-01-24 10:38:21 AM  

Dack48: cleek: A draft version of the bill Bradley introduced was delivered to her by a Florida Power & Light lobbyist on October 18, according to emails first reported by the Miami Herald and provided to CNN by the Energy and Policy Institute, a watchdog organization that targets fossil fuel and utility interests.Two days later, Florida Power & Light's parent company, NextEra Energy, made a $10,000 donation to Women Building the Future, a political committee affiliated with Bradley, according to state campaign finance records. The committee received another $10,000 contribution from NextEra in December, those records show.lol. duh.

Thats a pretty obvious bribe, and cheap too!


thornhill: Retrofitting individual homes with solar panels doesn't really seem scalable - the cost is like $20k per home. Using all of those tax incentives to build more solar and wind farms seems more cost effective (not that I expect a red state to do the right thing).


Strange, for the cost of popping solar panels onto one home, you can effectively bribe the Florida Legislator to keep all the homes of Florida from doing the same thing.
 
2022-01-24 10:48:47 AM  
yet at the same time they're passing laws that limit local governments ability to pass ordinances or laws that could "hurt businesses profits". How can people not see how completely unhinged republicans in florida are? Totally willing to pass laws that directly sabotage roof top solar installers, while using what they are doing as a boogeyman to tie the hands of local governments. fark these corrupt pig farkers, right in the ass with an angry chainsaw.
 
2022-01-24 10:50:14 AM  
and just in case anyone was wanting a citation: here
 
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