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2022-01-23 8:03:37 PM  
I only finally saw it in the theater this week. My theater has been at 80%+ capacity since it opened, often days ahead of time. It was only this past week that I found a daytime showing with less than half the seats taken. Decent seats and was nowhere near anyone else.

I'm sure Sony and Disney expected it would do well, but never expected it to do THIS well. This thing would have been considered a monster hit PRE-pandemic. To do these kinds of numbers now, during a few weeks when Covid was surging again, is insane.
 
2022-01-23 8:08:37 PM  
Spider-Man still has legs. Scream 5 wasn't as loud. West Side Story takes a turn off the plot.  There, now I'm a greenlight.
 
2022-01-23 8:26:27 PM  
Maybe go see?. Hard to time the run dates with the two closest 1st run theaters near me. It's possible to be the only people in a showing if you pick right early weekday evening showing some weeks into a more popular movie's run. Missed a few that way this Fall. Waiting too long. I prefer movies in uncrowded but we'll attended theaters. Kinda miss that a bit.
 
2022-01-23 8:31:08 PM  
Where will the Spider-Man movies be streaming?
 
2022-01-23 8:39:41 PM  
I just think it's funny that the lady from "Touched by an Angel" produced a religious prostitute western.

Theaters need to start offering "bad movie night" packages for movies like that. You and your group can bring in all the booze you want and be as snarky as possible. End of the night, best snark gets a prize.
 
2022-01-23 8:48:44 PM  

stoli n coke: I just think it's funny that the lady from "Touched by an Angel" produced a religious prostitute western.

Theaters need to start offering "bad movie night" packages for movies like that. You and your group can bring in all the booze you want and be as snarky as possible. End of the night, best snark gets a prize.


So a hipster revival of 42nd Street? Hell no.
 
2022-01-23 8:50:38 PM  

shoegaze99: I only finally saw it in the theater this week. My theater has been at 80%+ capacity since it opened, often days ahead of time. It was only this past week that I found a daytime showing with less than half the seats taken. Decent seats and was nowhere near anyone else.

I'm sure Sony and Disney expected it would do well, but never expected it to do THIS well. This thing would have been considered a monster hit PRE-pandemic. To do these kinds of numbers now, during a few weeks when Covid was surging again, is insane.


No way did they expect this to become the third highest grossing film in North America ever (it will pass Avatar this week).

But it has a few things going for it, not the least of which is that it has had no real competition (Matrix was garbage and other big films were kids films). But it also is a big enough film that lots of people are using it for one of their first outings since COVID. Further it is the first big MCU release in two and a half years (Shang Chi and The Eternals as pretty unknown IPs don't have the public perception).

And being a freaking awesome movie definitely helps.
 
2022-01-23 8:53:29 PM  

Zorba Paster's Wet Nurse: stoli n coke: I just think it's funny that the lady from "Touched by an Angel" produced a religious prostitute western.

Theaters need to start offering "bad movie night" packages for movies like that. You and your group can bring in all the booze you want and be as snarky as possible. End of the night, best snark gets a prize.

So a hipster revival of 42nd Street? Hell no.


Didn't like it when Rocky Horror played at your go-to theater and you were asked to stay zipped up?
 
2022-01-23 8:54:54 PM  
Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.
 
2022-01-23 9:38:59 PM  
Musicals are the worst genre, amirite?
 
2022-01-23 9:45:56 PM  

WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.


More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.
 
2022-01-23 9:53:10 PM  

EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.


Sorry, I meant "good" movies.
 
2022-01-23 9:58:27 PM  

WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.


I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.
 
2022-01-23 10:06:56 PM  

EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.

I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.


Yep, the first Spider-verse movie was better than No Way Home.
 
2022-01-23 11:31:11 PM  

EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.

I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.


The first spider-verse had a fantastic hand-drawn comic esthetic to it, it looked great. Lots of other interesting design choices too, e.g. when miles first starts to learn how to swing from the web he was animated at half the framerate as the more seasoned alternate reality spiderman next to him, giving him a more stilted appearance. Then later when he learns and gets better at it his animation framerate increases and he gets more fluid as well.
 
2022-01-23 11:46:57 PM  

Excelsior: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.

I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.

The first spider-verse had a fantastic hand-drawn comic esthetic to it, it looked great. Lots of other interesting design choices too, e.g. when miles first starts to learn how to swing from the web he was animated at half the framerate as the more seasoned alternate reality spiderman next to him, giving him a more stilted appearance. Then later when he learns and gets better at it his animation framerate increases and he gets more fluid as well.


I'm really curious to see how they'll top the brilliance of the first one. Their use of the animation medium was so ingeniously inventive and layered, there's still details to pick out after several viewings. It's one of those rare movies that got loads of love but still deserved more.
 
2022-01-23 11:51:35 PM  

EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.


I'm up for the ride. I've enjoyed all the Marvel movies except Eternals.
 
2022-01-24 12:48:32 AM  

EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.

I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.


Oh god I finally saw the Eternals. I went in thinking "everybody hates this, there's a good chance I will dig it."

It was just kind of .. fixable. Like there was a good story in there, but it took like 70 minutes of bad story to get there.

Like at no point did anyone say "cut 3 eternals." Did we need 3 really strong guys? 3? The fist guy? We had the fist guy AND kumail. And where is Kumail in the finale? "I'm going on vacation. I'm the libertarian eternal, I don't vote." Why keep Karun, the only lovable character, out of any scene?

Did we need Jon Snow? If we did, couldn't he have done... something? Anything?
Did we need flashbacks to Mesopotamia ... at the start? The scene where Gemma Chan is pretending to be a human teacher is only interesting if we don't know she has superpowers! Make that the beginning!

Could we have been a little less hamfisted with the Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash characters? The Flash character could have been cut! She didn't do anything until the very bitter end. Oh and mind-control cult guy? Cut!

It was such a shame. You've got a movie with a woman lead, which is what, three out of 25 marvel movies? And a minority lead, which is, same... And it clearly has problems all the way back to the script.
 
2022-01-24 12:52:56 AM  

EdgeRunner: Excelsior: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.

I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.

The first spider-verse had a fantastic hand-drawn comic esthetic to it, it looked great. Lots of other interesting design choices too, e.g. when miles first starts to learn how to swing from the web he was animated at half the framerate as the more seasoned alternate reality spiderman next to him, giving him a more stilted appearance. Then later when he learns and gets better at it his animation framerate increases and he gets more fluid as well.

I'm really curious to see how they'll top the brilliance of the first one. Their use of the animation medium was so ingeniously inventive and layered, there's still details to pick out after several viewings. It's one of those rare movies that got loads of love but still deserved more.


I think it's the best superhero movie.  Barely, but it is.

I also think NWH might get a Best Picture nomination.  It's been kind of a lousy year, and my understanding is that they're nominating 10 movies.
 
2022-01-24 1:15:20 AM  

Naido: EdgeRunner: Excelsior: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.

I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.

The first spider-verse had a fantastic hand-drawn comic esthetic to it, it looked great. Lots of other interesting design choices too, e.g. when miles first starts to learn how to swing from the web he was animated at half the framerate as the more seasoned alternate reality spiderman next to him, giving him a more stilted appearance. Then later when he learns and gets better at it his animation framerate increases and he gets more fluid as well.

I'm really curious to see how they'll top the brilliance of the first one. Their use of the animation medium was so ingeniously inventive and layered, there's still details to pick out after several viewings. It's one of those rare movies that got loads of love but still deserved more.

I think it's the best superhero movie.  Barely, but it is.

I also think NWH might get a Best Picture nomination.  It's been kind of a lousy year, and my understanding is that they're nominating 10 movies.


Award show ratings keep plummeting, and they know they've got to do something to get people interested again. Nominating popular movies with large fanbases is a crazy idea, but it just might work.
 
2022-01-24 4:00:29 AM  

moothemagiccow: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: EdgeRunner: WhippingBoi: Spiderman was awesome. They *need* to make more movies like this.

More movies where different versions of a character interact with each other? We're about to get plenty of those.

The Flash, Across the Spider-Verse, Multiverse of Madness, and Lord only knows how many other MCU movies to follow. The concept is about to be well and truly beaten to death.

Sorry, I meant "good" movies.

I'm more excited for Across the Spider-Verse than I was for No Way Home. As for the other two, I'm sure they'll be at least as good as the Eternals was.

Oh god I finally saw the Eternals. I went in thinking "everybody hates this, there's a good chance I will dig it."

It was just kind of .. fixable. Like there was a good story in there, but it took like 70 minutes of bad story to get there.

Like at no point did anyone say "cut 3 eternals." Did we need 3 really strong guys? 3? The fist guy? We had the fist guy AND kumail. And where is Kumail in the finale? "I'm going on vacation. I'm the libertarian eternal, I don't vote." Why keep Karun, the only lovable character, out of any scene?

Did we need Jon Snow? If we did, couldn't he have done... something? Anything?
Did we need flashbacks to Mesopotamia ... at the start? The scene where Gemma Chan is pretending to be a human teacher is only interesting if we don't know she has superpowers! Make that the beginning!

Could we have been a little less hamfisted with the Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash characters? The Flash character could have been cut! She didn't do anything until the very bitter end. Oh and mind-control cult guy? Cut!

It was such a shame. You've got a movie with a woman lead, which is what, three out of 25 marvel movies? And a minority lead, which is, same... And it clearly has problems all the way back to the script.


The comment I keep coming back to is that they looked at everything that made The Avengers a huge success and did the exact opposite.

They stuck in so many unknown characters and give them a story and setting up future films (that is why Kit Harrington is there, to set up his character for Blade). And they tried to fit a movie around that.

I am surprised you missed one big WTF thing, the Deviants turn out to be effectively pointless and the big bad Deviant just gets killed by Thena after doing nothing but giving Angelina some screen time while the others do stuff to further the plot.

The Babylon scenes etc were supposed to develop the chapters of the Eternals and their relationships. In particular showing Sersei's love for the people of Earth and her relationship with Ikaris.

How you make Eternals a good movie?

First, you have a Disney+ series of the quest to defeat the Deviants covering all the events through them going their separate ways after Tenochtitlan (do eight episodes in eight different places and time periods where they battle deviants and establish all the characters, relationships, and concepts for the film).

Then, you open with the London fight and take the time to do a good movie. You have time to use characters and make them interesting. You just have to have enough for the film to make some sense while people who care for details can watch the series.
 
2022-01-24 5:01:04 AM  

moothemagiccow: Did we need Jon Snow? If we did, couldn't he have done... something? Anything?


It looked like a setup for a future superhero character or movie. The guy off-camera talking to him at the end is supposed to be the new Blade.
The movie looked more like a "woke" checklist than a movie which is not necessarily bad if done in an entertaining way but it wasn't. It made around $400M which is a flop by MCU standards.
 
2022-01-24 5:08:58 AM  
TappingTheVein:

The movie looked more like a "woke"

*jacking-off.gif*
I get it, Earl, movie not 100% white=woke.

Aaaaaanyhoo, that script sucked no matter  who was cast in it.
 
2022-01-24 5:21:52 AM  

Bslim: I get it, Earl, movie not 100% white=woke.


You obviously don't since I never meant or said anything of the sort but hey, I get it.
 
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2022-01-24 9:29:07 AM  
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2022-01-24 10:27:10 AM  
Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.
 
2022-01-24 11:36:48 AM  

Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.


I think it might have been better served as a Disney+ miniseries. As it stands, the movie was pretty episodic in nature. If its 20-minute scenes/"episodes" were fleshed out a bit more into full TV episodes, with more time spent on its many characters, it may have played better.

I still enjoyed it, but I'm biased: I've been an Eternals fan since Kirby's original series.

Yes, I'm the guy!

But I also get why a lot of folks were underwhelmed by it.

Plus, the Deviants were totally wasted in the movie. The original concept of the Deviants as being the source of myths of the underworld, demons, devils, etc. is far more interesting, especially when you throw in the idea that they're sentient beings, not just rampaging monsters.
 
2022-01-24 12:42:06 PM  

Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.


They already touched on that idea with a little character called Thor. They might have turned up the navel-gazing a few notches, but having ancient mythological gods turn out to just be powered-up people is hardly a brave new concept for Marvel.
 
2022-01-24 12:49:45 PM  

EdgeRunner: Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.

They already touched on that idea with a little character called Thor. They might have turned up the navel-gazing a few notches, but having ancient mythological gods turn out to just be powered-up people is hardly a brave new concept for Marvel.


Thor had never been to Earth before the first movie. Odin was dicking around Norway, but they never dive deep into what else he was doing in Midgard, other than hiding the Tesseract.
 
2022-01-24 1:16:28 PM  

Trocadero: EdgeRunner: Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.

They already touched on that idea with a little character called Thor. They might have turned up the navel-gazing a few notches, but having ancient mythological gods turn out to just be powered-up people is hardly a brave new concept for Marvel.

Thor had never been to Earth before the first movie. Odin was dicking around Norway, but they never dive deep into what else he was doing in Midgard, other than hiding the Tesseract.


Someone must have talked up Thor pretty big on Earth, though, because the stories and religion based around him still happened in the Marvel universe. As an actual mythological figure turned into a comic book character, there's no more prominent example of "superhero becomes object of worship" in the MCU than Thor.
 
2022-01-24 1:33:33 PM  

EdgeRunner: Trocadero: EdgeRunner: Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.

They already touched on that idea with a little character called Thor. They might have turned up the navel-gazing a few notches, but having ancient mythological gods turn out to just be powered-up people is hardly a brave new concept for Marvel.

Thor had never been to Earth before the first movie. Odin was dicking around Norway, but they never dive deep into what else he was doing in Midgard, other than hiding the Tesseract.

Someone must have talked up Thor pretty big on Earth, though, because the stories and religion based around him still happened in the Marvel universe. As an actual mythological figure turned into a comic book character, there's no more prominent example of "superhero becomes object of worship" in the MCU than Thor.


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2022-01-24 1:53:09 PM  

Naido: EdgeRunner: Trocadero: EdgeRunner: Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.

They already touched on that idea with a little character called Thor. They might have turned up the navel-gazing a few notches, but having ancient mythological gods turn out to just be powered-up people is hardly a brave new concept for Marvel.

Thor had never been to Earth before the first movie. Odin was dicking around Norway, but they never dive deep into what else he was doing in Midgard, other than hiding the Tesseract.

Someone must have talked up Thor pretty big on Earth, though, because the stories and religion based around him still happened in the Marvel universe. As an actual mythological figure turned into a comic book character, there's no more prominent example of "superhero becomes object of worship" in the MCU than Thor.

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People don't actually build shrines and pray to Rogers, though.

Ok, maybe Coulson did, but nobody else.
 
2022-01-25 12:21:03 AM  

shoegaze99: Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.

I think it might have been better served as a Disney+ miniseries. As it stands, the movie was pretty episodic in nature. If its 20-minute scenes/"episodes" were fleshed out a bit more into full TV episodes, with more time spent on its many characters, it may have played better.

I still enjoyed it, but I'm biased: I've been an Eternals fan since Kirby's original series.

Yes, I'm the guy!

But I also get why a lot of folks were underwhelmed by it.

Plus, the Deviants were totally wasted in the movie. The original concept of the Deviants as being the source of myths of the underworld, demons, devils, etc. is far more interesting, especially when you throw in the idea that they're sentient beings, not just rampaging monsters.


If the deviants would have been Centaurs or Gorgans or Cyclopses... that could have been cool.

Clash of The Titans set in 2022 NYC?

Yes!
 
2022-01-25 12:44:54 AM  

paulleah: shoegaze99: Trocadero: Eternals would've been a better movie completely severed from the MCU. It had a lot of warts, but damnit, it was reaching for something a lot bigger and interesting than the last few MCU movies. It was similar to Black Panther in that way; it was swimming in deeper waters, but stayed near the surface. We've been telling each other superhero stories for millennia, but after a long enough period of time, they're called mythology.

I think it might have been better served as a Disney+ miniseries. As it stands, the movie was pretty episodic in nature. If its 20-minute scenes/"episodes" were fleshed out a bit more into full TV episodes, with more time spent on its many characters, it may have played better.

I still enjoyed it, but I'm biased: I've been an Eternals fan since Kirby's original series.

Yes, I'm the guy!

But I also get why a lot of folks were underwhelmed by it.

Plus, the Deviants were totally wasted in the movie. The original concept of the Deviants as being the source of myths of the underworld, demons, devils, etc. is far more interesting, especially when you throw in the idea that they're sentient beings, not just rampaging monsters.

If the deviants would have been Centaurs or Gorgans or Cyclopses... that could have been cool.

Clash of The Titans set in 2022 NYC?

Yes!


That would be perfect for a TV series.

Each episode the deviants are the daemon or monster from that culture. One episode in medieval England they are a dragon. In one in ancient Greece they are Gorgons and other monsters. In the Crusades they are Satanic daemons. Etc, etc.

The in the film have them come out of hiding and initially be the enemy only to join the fight against Ikaris to stop the emergence and set them up as a long term bad guy.
 
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