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2022-01-23 12:50:07 PM  
I wonder if they could point the Hubble at stuff and inspect them?
 
2022-01-23 1:26:25 PM  
Not too far fetched.   The spy satellites out there aren't much different from Hubble pointed down instead of up.
 
2022-01-23 1:59:44 PM  
I don't need an inspector. You're that clever space shark, aren't you?
 
2022-01-23 2:10:45 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: I don't need an inspector. You're that clever space shark, aren't you?


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2022-01-23 2:12:24 PM  
Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name
 
2022-01-23 2:15:06 PM  

baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name


What would you call them?  Coast Guard in 3-D?
 
2022-01-23 2:16:58 PM  

rnatalie: Not too far fetched.   The spy satellites out there aren't much different from Hubble pointed down instead of up.


I wish the Hubble mirror was accidentally installed on a KH-11, so they would have needed to come up with some excuse as to why everything was in the wrong orbit and needed shuffling around.
 
2022-01-23 2:17:54 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

What would you call them?  Coast Guard in 3-D?


Space cadets
 
2022-01-23 2:29:12 PM  

baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name


This

It sounds just as stupid as Air Force.
 
2022-01-23 2:31:31 PM  

edmo: I wonder if they could point the Hubble at stuff and inspect them?


Hubble itself, no. It would need different optics and it is not setup for tracking things on low-Earth orbit. Bur clearly a space telescope can be (and undoubtedly has been) made for this purpose. Though the article seems to be suggesting they want to be a few meters away from the target satellite. No telescope will beat that.
 
2022-01-23 2:35:23 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

What would you call them?  Coast Guard in 3-D?


Space Marines, obviously. Futuristic, murderous, religious fanatics. Perfect name for an American space forces branch.
 
2022-01-23 2:47:17 PM  

rnatalie: Not too far fetched.   The spy satellites out there aren't much different from Hubble pointed down instead of up.


The same company (Perkin Elmer) made the optics for both.  We discussed this in some JWST threads.
 
2022-01-23 2:49:03 PM  

mongbiohazard: Olympic Trolling Judge: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

What would you call them?  Coast Guard in 3-D?

Space Marines, obviously. Futuristic, murderous, religious fanatics. Perfect name for an American space forces branch.


I've often thought that a group named after a body of water that specializes in taking beaches but prefers to hang out in the middle of the desert far from shore for several decades was a great name for a force that never sees surface work.
 
2022-01-23 2:56:11 PM  
I'd like to inspect THIS Satellite....

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2022-01-23 3:25:29 PM  
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"Hoo Hoo, I can't *believe* that worked!"
 
2022-01-23 3:45:41 PM  
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2022-01-23 3:54:30 PM  
I wonder how big a laser cutter it would need to render a nearby solar panel inoperable. After all, what good is an inspector if it can't also be an enforcer?
 
2022-01-23 4:01:32 PM  

pheelix: I wonder how big a laser cutter it would need to render a nearby solar panel inoperable. After all, what good is an inspector if it can't also be an enforcer?


Wouldn't need a laser to do a job that it could easily do with a stick.
 
2022-01-23 4:20:56 PM  

mongbiohazard: pheelix: I wonder how big a laser cutter it would need to render a nearby solar panel inoperable. After all, what good is an inspector if it can't also be an enforcer?

Wouldn't need a laser to do a job that it could easily do with a stick.


Allow me to introduce you to orbital mechanics.
 
2022-01-23 4:24:45 PM  

pheelix: I wonder how big a laser cutter it would need to render a nearby solar panel inoperable. After all, what good is an inspector if it can't also be an enforcer?


If someone is running an optical spy satellite, all you need is to dazzle it and you can do that from the ground.  That already happens but you don't let the other side know you've been affected.
 
2022-01-23 4:41:47 PM  

mongbiohazard: Olympic Trolling Judge: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

What would you call them?  Coast Guard in 3-D?

Space Marines, obviously. Futuristic, murderous, religious fanatics. Perfect name for an American space forces branch.


*shrug* I would think you would want to keep it as close to the Air Force name as possible if you wanted to infer religious fanatics
 
2022-01-23 5:01:13 PM  
Disband space force.  It is a trump creation, and needs to be ended.
 
2022-01-23 5:05:18 PM  

Garza and the Supermutants: I don't need an inspector. You're that clever space shark, aren't you?


Candygram
 
2022-01-23 5:08:12 PM  

pheelix: I wonder how big a laser cutter it would need to render a nearby solar panel inoperable. After all, what good is an inspector if it can't also be an enforcer?


Yeppers.  If you're within inspection distance, you're not far from attack distance or repair distance.  This is why every time the "other guys" try to develop servicing/repair satellites, "we" point out their clear applicability to military space warfare.  While, of course, stating that the equivalent things we're developing are purely peaceful in their intent. ;-)
 
2022-01-23 6:40:35 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Disband space force.  It is a trump creation, and needs to be ended.


Needed per se? No. But I'm against disbanding it for the same reason that I against forming it in the first place. It is unnecessary. And creating and uncreating it every election cycle is really wasteful and immature. Everything the Space Force is doing would have been done if it was still part of the Air Force. Nothing it is doing now will be stopped by putting it back into the Air Force.
 
2022-01-23 6:55:08 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

What would you call them?  Coast Guard in 3-D?


Steeley Eyed Missile Men, or SEMEN for short.
 
2022-01-23 8:10:01 PM  

cman: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

This

It sounds just as stupid as Air Force.


The branches of the military just make sense:

Space force
Air force
Water force
Land force
Marines
Coast guard
 
2022-01-23 8:10:40 PM  
Don't we already have something that does this?
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2022-01-23 8:25:09 PM  
nope, not calling it space force, that sounds as farking stupid as the man who came up with it.
 
2022-01-23 10:30:12 PM  
Satellite Inspector who?
/can't believe I'm the first one
 
2022-01-23 11:39:33 PM  

Social Justice Warlock: Satellite Inspec

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
 
2022-01-23 11:44:57 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Social Justice Warlock: Satellite InspecMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.


I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!
 
2022-01-24 3:14:59 AM  

cman: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

This

It sounds just as stupid as Air Force.


The cops were called the Air Police before my time. The old timers used to use the term without any idea how silly it sounded.
 
2022-01-24 4:25:41 AM  

knbwhite: cman: baka-san: Oh for farks sake can we get rid of the Space Force name

This

It sounds just as stupid as Air Force.

The cops were called the Air Police before my time. The old timers used to use the term without any idea how silly it sounded.


Armed Forces - Army
Naval Forces - Navy
Ground Forces - Granny
Coastal Forces - Cozy
Space Forces - Spazzy
 
2022-01-24 6:37:28 AM  

thehellisthis: rnatalie: Not too far fetched.   The spy satellites out there aren't much different from Hubble pointed down instead of up.

I wish the Hubble mirror was accidentally installed on a KH-11, so they would have needed to come up with some excuse as to why everything was in the wrong orbit and needed shuffling around.


How would you know either way?   They wouldn't announce anything, and even with a relatively bad mirror a spy satellite would still produce useful images.  Plus, plenty of reason to act like it's operating normally.

And finally, trust me as someone who has seen top secret satellite outages, it's generally not announced to the general public.
 
2022-01-24 7:00:18 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Disband space force.  It is a trump creation, and needs to be ended.


Dumb, because at some point we'll need to recreate it.

The idea of a military force that is concentrated on space is a good idea.  I think the implementation was a tad premature, but it was going to be needed eventually.

I'm sure if POTATUS suggested it you'd be all over it like flies on shiat.

I find it funny that the Democrats heaped so much scorn on Dan Quayle when he was VP, then nominated his mirror twin.
 
2022-01-24 11:16:57 AM  

dittybopper: thehellisthis: rnatalie: Not too far fetched.   The spy satellites out there aren't much different from Hubble pointed down instead of up.

I wish the Hubble mirror was accidentally installed on a KH-11, so they would have needed to come up with some excuse as to why everything was in the wrong orbit and needed shuffling around.

How would you know either way?   They wouldn't announce anything, and even with a relatively bad mirror a spy satellite would still produce useful images.  Plus, plenty of reason to act like it's operating normally.

And finally, trust me as someone who has seen top secret satellite outages, it's generally not announced to the general public.


I'm not sure the gross spherical aberration would have been any better when viewing the earth.   The frame size of the spy satellite is pretty broad.    Perhaps the very center might have been usable, but you're not getting the big picture in focus.

The neat thing about the Hubble mirror is that there were other instruments other than the EO one on the Hubble and the users of those got a big boost in instrument availability since the main mirror wasn't usable.

I've worked tangentially with both the Space Telescope Receiving Lab (did some of their networking) and I wrote the RemoteView software that most of the spy stuff has been processed with once they moved off IDEX.   Back when I started, you couldn't even say NRO in public.
 
2022-01-24 11:23:52 AM  

rnatalie: I've worked tangentially with both the Space Telescope Receiving Lab (did some of their networking) and I wrote the RemoteView software that most of the spy stuff has been processed with once they moved off IDEX.   Back when I started, you couldn't even say NRO in public.


That's pretty cool!  One of the best things about Fark is the wide cross section of people
 
2022-01-24 11:39:43 AM  

thehellisthis: mongbiohazard: pheelix: I wonder how big a laser cutter it would need to render a nearby solar panel inoperable. After all, what good is an inspector if it can't also be an enforcer?

Wouldn't need a laser to do a job that it could easily do with a stick.

Allow me to introduce you to orbital mechanics.


It's easy to break things. Solar panels aren't that tough. And knocking a satellite out of commission - once you're up there in orbit with it - shouldn't be that tough. A handfull of ball bearings should do the trick too.
 
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