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2022-01-23 1:41:13 PM  
Thyssenkrupp again.  These guys have been making guns longer than Israel has existed.
 
2022-01-23 1:42:31 PM  
Das boot?
 
2022-01-23 1:46:06 PM  
Getting the stink of Bibi out of the Israeli government once and for all would greatly improve things not only in Israel, but in the Middle East as a whole.
 
2022-01-23 1:47:09 PM  

jake_lex: Getting the stink of Bibi out of the Israeli government once and for all would greatly improve things not only in Israel, but in the Middle East as a whole.


He's the one responsible for bringI no in the problematic settlers.
 
2022-01-23 1:50:51 PM  
Should have bought from General Dynamics, it's our money anyway.
 
2022-01-23 1:55:31 PM  
fark him. I'm still pissed the GQP let him come and try to lecture our congress.
 
2022-01-23 1:57:50 PM  
All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.
 
2022-01-23 2:05:09 PM  

MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.


Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.
 
2022-01-23 2:08:07 PM  
Israel is such a shiathole country.
 
2022-01-23 2:10:49 PM  

lilplatinum: Israel is such a shiathole country.


And awaaaaaaaay we go.
 
2022-01-23 2:17:43 PM  
Is he in jail yet?
 
2022-01-23 2:42:18 PM  
Why aren't they buying them from us?
 
2022-01-23 2:56:13 PM  

vernonFL: Why aren't they buying them from us?


Didn't the USA give the money to Israel to buy military gear from a NATO country? That's one way that NATO supports each other, but on the ledger it counts as "aid" from one country to non-NATO nation; while in the meantime, the recipient (in this case Germany) counts it as revenue from a big sale.
 
2022-01-23 3:06:05 PM  

MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.


That's what happens when you get a society that ignores literary criticism and history, while promoting stuff like political science and sociology. They argue over the contemporary issues with Israel on an international scale, but they know nothing about the genaeology of their own cliches and prejudices (thus preserving them). Partly, at least, I think the armchair wonk industry (of which Fark is a teeny tiny part) profits from a shallow knee-jerk discusion of deep cultural concepts.
 
2022-01-23 3:12:07 PM  

vernonFL: Why aren't they buying them from us?


The USA doesn't manufacture or sell non-nuclear submarines. We don't have anything to offer them unless they want to spend big and buy a nuclear-powered submarine.
 
2022-01-23 3:16:12 PM  

MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.


Aren't the goblins transgender?
 
2022-01-23 3:18:36 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.


lolwut
 
2022-01-23 3:27:42 PM  

iron_city_ap: fark him. I'm still pissed the GQP let him come and try to lecture our congress.


He's spent the past 30 years saying "Iran is less than 6 months from having nuclear arms", one instance being September 2002, when he was helping sell the Iraq War, saying that no adverse consequences would come out of it.
 
2022-01-23 3:29:46 PM  

austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut


People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.
 
2022-01-23 3:43:06 PM  

MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.


Don't forget the high (or low depending on your optimist/pessimist tendencies) bar on what is criticizable is us and we're too damned touchy.
 
2022-01-23 3:45:42 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: iron_city_ap: fark him. I'm still pissed the GQP let him come and try to lecture our congress.

He's spent the past 30 years saying "Iran is less than 6 months from having nuclear arms", one instance being September 2002, when he was helping sell the Iraq War, saying that no adverse consequences would come out of it.


So? Fark has been saying democracy will die when republicans are elected for the last 20 years.

If anyone should understand chicken littles it's fark.
 
2022-01-23 3:56:52 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.


We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.
 
2022-01-23 4:02:09 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: He's spent the past 30 years saying "Iran is less than 6 months from having nuclear arms"


Sorta like nuclear fusion energy being "20 years away."

Which do you think will happen first?
 
2022-01-23 4:24:59 PM  

mrmopar5287: Bith Set Me Up: He's spent the past 30 years saying "Iran is less than 6 months from having nuclear arms"

Sorta like nuclear fusion energy being "20 years away."

Which do you think will happen first?


Iran will be the first with nuclear fusion.
 
2022-01-23 4:31:04 PM  

austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.


Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?
 
2022-01-23 4:31:56 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.

Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?


Just so you know, the answer is no.
 
2022-01-23 4:39:37 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.

Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?


I can't say, because it depends on what exactly we're talking about. It could very well be relevant.

But I find this strange because 9/11 has nothing to do with any country's government, right? It was perpetrated by a group of terrorists. Unless you're also trying to suggest that settlers are terrorists, I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here.
 
2022-01-23 4:51:56 PM  

austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.

Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?

I can't say, because it depends on what exactly we're talking about. It could very well be relevant.

But I find this strange because 9/11 has nothing to do with any country's government, right? It was perpetrated by a group of terrorists. Unless you're also trying to suggest that settlers are terrorists, I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here.


Yes, the Kach settlers are terrorists.
 
2022-01-23 4:55:47 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.

Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?

I can't say, because it depends on what exactly we're talking about. It could very well be relevant.

But I find this strange because 9/11 has nothing to do with any country's government, right? It was perpetrated by a group of terrorists. Unless you're also trying to suggest that settlers are terrorists, I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here.

Yes, the Kach settlers are terrorists.


Then if it's relevant, we should be talking about it.

If they're terrorists, saying so isn't antisemitic.

Regardless, criticism of the Israeli can be valid regardless of whether it specifically mentions Netanyahu. Such a requirement is utterly absurd.
 
2022-01-23 5:11:15 PM  

austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.

Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?

I can't say, because it depends on what exactly we're talking about. It could very well be relevant.

But I find this strange because 9/11 has nothing to do with any country's government, right? It was perpetrated by a group of terrorists. Unless you're also trying to suggest that settlers are terrorists, I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here.

Yes, the Kach settlers are terrorists.

Then if it's relevant, we should be talking about it.

If they're terrorists, saying so isn't antisemitic.

Regardless, criticism of the Israeli can be valid regardless of whether it specifically mentions Netanyahu. Such a requirement is utterly absurd.


The question I ha e is why the perseverating?
 
2022-01-23 5:12:25 PM  
Is it a foregone conclusion that threads like this will never ever have a chance of not descending into chaos?
 
2022-01-23 6:47:19 PM  

hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.

Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?

I can't say, because it depends on what exactly we're talking about. It could very well be relevant.

But I find this strange because 9/11 has nothing to do with any country's government, right? It was perpetrated by a group of terrorists. Unless you're also trying to suggest that settlers are terrorists, I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here.

Yes, the Kach settlers are terrorists.

Then if it's relevant, we should be talking about it.

If they're terrorists, saying so isn't antisemitic.

Regardless, criticism of the Israeli can be valid regardless of whether it specifically mentions Netanyahu. Such a requirement is utterly absurd.

The question I ha e is why the perseverating?


The Israeli government has implemented apartheid.  Bringing that up when Israel is mentioned is fair game.
 
2022-01-23 7:05:44 PM  

Unapologetically Canadian: Is it a foregone conclusion that threads like this will never ever have a chance of not descending into chaos?


Name a pol tab thread that won't unless it's mis labeled and the mods are too drunk to realize?
 
2022-01-23 7:10:07 PM  

lilplatinum: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: austerity101: hoodiowithtudio: MattytheMouse: All I'm gonna contribute is: over the last year, I've learned that people have some really ass-backwards definitions of what anti-Semitism is, when criticizing Israel is inherently anti-Semitic, but the goblins in Harry Potter somehow aren't.

Well, good news. You can officially criticize the Israeli government here as long as it involves Bibi.

Here is my sincere promise. I will have your back as long as your criticism is related to Bibi.

lolwut

People have a penchant to go into conversations where jews are the subject of conversation and bring up stuff about the settlers.

For example, when the conversation about the rabbi throwing the chair, some people brought up the settlers, even though they were irrelevant.

We should be able to criticize any government at any time for any reason here in the US. Legitimacy of our criticism of the Israeli government should not hinge on whether we are specifically talking about Netanyahu.

Something allegedly being irrelevant doesn't make it categorically antisemitic.

Should 9/11 be brought up if we're talking about an eid?

I can't say, because it depends on what exactly we're talking about. It could very well be relevant.

But I find this strange because 9/11 has nothing to do with any country's government, right? It was perpetrated by a group of terrorists. Unless you're also trying to suggest that settlers are terrorists, I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here.

Yes, the Kach settlers are terrorists.

Then if it's relevant, we should be talking about it.

If they're terrorists, saying so isn't antisemitic.

Regardless, criticism of the Israeli can be valid regardless of whether it specifically mentions Netanyahu. Such a requirement is utterly absurd.

The question I ha e is why the perseverating?

The Israeli government has implemented apartheid.  Bringing that up when Israel is mentioned is fair game.


Ok.
 
2022-01-24 9:54:51 AM  
I thought Israel was buying these submarines, and some additional ships from Germany, due to a subsidy. Germany is paying the last of its war reparations to Israel in these kind of discounted military sales. So why the kickbacks? Israel could go with other country's defense industry but how competitive are they w/o a similar rebate? Or is the kickback meant to keep them from going with another German company?
 
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