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2022-01-23 3:16:56 AM  
Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober
 
2022-01-23 4:36:07 AM  

bughunter: Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober


Yep, 11 for 11. Quit last year. Haven't been perfect with quitting but manage zero alcohol most days and aim to keep improving that. I've drunk more than enough for several liftetimes, I keep reminding myself I've had today's alcohol quota, I had it in about 2009 by my count.
 
2022-01-23 4:46:14 AM  
Inches away from death. Thanks insider...you saved my life.

......FO....
 
2022-01-23 7:22:10 AM  
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2022-01-23 7:24:44 AM  

johnryan51: Inches away from death. Thanks insider...you saved my life.

......FO....


#12 - An article about the signs of alcoholism makes you irrationally angry
 
2022-01-23 7:25:22 AM  
After the full blown DTs and a week long stay in the ICU (they were just going to prescribe me librium and discharge me and minutes later I was convinced that I was in a hospital reality show run by birds, pulled out the IVs of my arm, and tried to walk out the door), I can safely say I've flirted with death considerably.

Unfortunately I've recently fallen back into another severe bender that's gone on a few weeks. Currently trying to taper back down.
 
2022-01-23 7:25:23 AM  

bughunter: Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober


Kudos, and weirdly close...3 years, 2 months, 2 days.
 
2022-01-23 7:26:35 AM  
And yeah, 11 for 11.
12 for 12 if you go by bughunter's list.
 
2022-01-23 7:28:45 AM  
Glad i decided to stop right as the TFG admin was getting into high gear.
 
2022-01-23 7:37:54 AM  
Tom's insightful solutions for helping you lower your number of symptoms:

1 - Always plan on drinking a lot more than you possibly can
2 - Set higher limits
3 - Grocery delivery and taller shot glasses help with the first two
4 - Don't stop drinking
5 - Try living alone and working remotely
6 - Friends will only drink your beer, get rid of them
7 - Make your hobbies drinking related
8 - Don't go outside so much!  There's a pandemic going on, you knucklehead!
9 - Do you really know that it is?  What even is knowing?
10 - OK, can't really help with that one
11 - See #4
 
2022-01-23 7:43:02 AM  
11 for 11 also , 21 years.

My future ex wife gave me an ultimatum "since you won't quit drinking I'll take the girls and you can have the house" my reply was "That sounds fair" She did not expect that.  Divorced several years after I got sober.
 
2022-01-23 7:43:37 AM  

bughunter: Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober


Congratulations, keep going, you got it.
 
2022-01-23 7:49:04 AM  
1. You drink more alcohol, or for a longer period, than intended
No, YOU drink more alcohol!
2. You struggle to stop drinking alcohol or stick to limits you set
Not a struggle, thish ish delishus!
4. You have cravings when not drinking alcoholPfft! Crave Case, MAAYbe.

5. Your drinking habits create problems at work, school, or home
Only if said places don't get Drizzley.
6. Your drinking habits begin to affect your personal and professional relationships
...for the better! I haven't strangled anybody today, HAVE I, smart guy?
7. Alcohol use leads you to cut back on work, hobbies, and other activities
Not true- see #5.
8. You drink alcohol even when it poses a safety risk
You're posing a safety risk right now. You'd better have a drink to be safe.
9. You continue drinking even when you know it's affecting your wellbeing
You know what's affecting YOUR well-being? This list, and not having a drink.
10. You develop a tolerance for alcohol
YOU sound intolerance! Loosen up- have a double.
11. You experience withdrawal
You withdraw that bottle, I'll withdraw your...zzzzz.
 
2022-01-23 7:50:11 AM  
Good weed keeps me from being an alcoholic.
 
2022-01-23 7:56:04 AM  
Currently in a dry January.

I normally exhibit 3 out of 11. So according to my Irish Catholic tribe, I'm "one of the gang that will die in the gutter like uncle Jim with nothing to his name but a pair of Penn Central wire cutters."
 
2022-01-23 7:56:42 AM  
I quit November 3, 2021. Happier than ever. No one who knows me can believe it.
 
2022-01-23 8:06:03 AM  
fark guys.  I'm reading these 11 out of 11s.  I have met 11 out of 11s.  But, I just don't get it.  I'm a solid 1 out of 11.  All it takes is the occasional hang over and visit to my uncle to remind me it's a bad idea to drink the entire bottle of Jamison at once.
 
2022-01-23 8:09:55 AM  

henryhill: Good weed keeps me from being an alcoholic.


Nothing quite like beer and cannabis together to prevent me using too much of either. I even prefer lower strength beer these days because the strong ones make me feel sick.
 
2022-01-23 8:17:54 AM  
To paraphrase Hawkeye Pierce of M*A*S*H:

"Rumors of my alcoholism have been started by people I have stumbled over."
 
2022-01-23 8:32:16 AM  

henryhill: Good weed keeps me from being an alcoholic.


I've heard that before from other people too.

Anyone ever try non-alcoholic brew just to ween themselves off the real thing? You still get to go to the store and buy "beer" but without the stuff that makes it bad for you. Does that work or is it a half measure?
 
2022-01-23 8:39:44 AM  
bughunter:  /3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober

Oh yea, well I'm 3 minutes, 20 seconds, 6 nanoseconds sober

/don't joke, this is serious
//on Fark??
///welcome to Fark, and such as
 
2022-01-23 8:41:29 AM  
I come from a long line of alcoholics. I work in a trade where alcoholism is an occupational hazard. If I do drink at work, it's to make other people more interesting, and not sweat the little sh*t. Which isn't often, but I'm practical enough to know when life is too short to deal with some sh*t sober.
 
2022-01-23 8:43:35 AM  
Fortunately I lack the discipline and dedication to drink that might make me an alcoholic.
 
2022-01-23 8:46:04 AM  

hubiestubert: I come from a long line of alcoholics. I work in a trade where alcoholism is an occupational hazard. If I do drink at work, it's to make other people more interesting, and not sweat the little sh*t. Which isn't often, but I'm practical enough to know when life is too short to deal with some sh*t sober.


I used to drink at a combination movie theatre/restaurant where all the seats were Cadillac and Lincoln reclining seats around long tables that served food while you watched the flick. There was a liquor store next door.

Anytime I was working a kid's movie or a romcom, I'd pop over to the liquor store before work and have at least 4 nips in my pockets so that I could make it through the shift.
 
2022-01-23 8:49:11 AM  
(reads list, nope)
Hooray! I can keep drinking!
 
2022-01-23 8:57:50 AM  
The article does not mention blackouts, so "Cheers!"
 
2022-01-23 9:04:36 AM  

bughunter: Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober


Same here, formerly 11/12.  Now am 12/11.

Worked for me, has for 15 years.  I'd be dead otherwise.
 
2022-01-23 9:04:49 AM  

Unscratchable_Itch: (reads list, nope)
Hooray! I can keep drinking!


Yeah, I drink way more than a doctor thinks I should. But I answer almost every one of those questions "no."

Increased tolerance? yes. (they used to call that "being able to hold your liquor.")

During lockdown I once stopped drinking for 3 days b/c I was out of mixers. (and beer)

I had vodak, but no lemon juice so, never mind. (no ill effects, no cravings, but I did get bored with coke, coffee and water.)
 
2022-01-23 9:04:56 AM  

SpaceMonkey-66: bughunter: Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober

Same here, formerly 11/12.  Now am 12/11.

Worked for me, has for 15 years.  I'd be dead otherwise.


Oops 11/11
 
2022-01-23 9:10:51 AM  
"She says I drink too much, I smoke too much, I gamble. I mean she's right, but what can I do?"
 
2022-01-23 9:19:48 AM  
You could just as easily replace alcohol with caffeine or masturbation
 
2022-01-23 9:20:37 AM  
My support and encouragement to those quitting to better themselves.

I've always been mostly a social drinker, not a fan of getting drunk alone. Maybe a couple beers after work, or watching a game. About a year ago I was working 10 hour days with an almost 4 hour commute, and I'd get home too tired to crack open a beer. I'd just fall asleep before I finished it.

In September I quit drinking, accidentally. The store was out of my usual IPA, locally brewed, so I tried another from an out of state brewery. I only had two, but woke up really thrashed. I call it a "hops hangover" and have had them before, different from a regular hangover. Maybe an allergy to that variety of hops or maybe the yeast strain. Also, there were wild fires at the time and the heavy smoke often made my stomach nauseated, and that was part of it. But from just two beers it was something besides the alcohol that affected me.

In any event, the experience imprinted a strong aversion and when I passed the beer aisle I just shuddered. I realized my $20-30 a week for beer could translate into drum machines instead, and Behringer just released a 909 clone for $350....

Anyway, I've lost about 25 pounds since September with no significant lifestyle changes, except for cutting carbs and sugar (which I'd already been working on). My job involves moving heavy boxes frequently, so that helps a bit and really "works the core".

Like many others, I've noticed that healthier people have better odds against Covid, so I'm maximizing my survivability. My decision to quit drinking was just a gut reaction in a literal way, not really a conscious thought at first, but my brain decided my stomach was right. And I feel great!

I offer my support and encouragement to those improving their lives.
 
2022-01-23 9:23:46 AM  

bughunter: Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober


Congratulations, good Farker.
 
2022-01-23 9:27:45 AM  

born_yesterday: You could just as easily replace alcohol with caffeine or masturbation


I mean Heidi and Chloe and Ego and Cecily are all fine ass women but I can't see myself being able to punch the pope for an entire episode of SNL.
 
2022-01-23 9:28:46 AM  

August11: Currently in a dry January.

I normally exhibit 3 out of 11. So according to my Irish Catholic tribe, I'm "one of the gang that will die in the gutter like uncle Jim with nothing to his name but a pair of Penn Central wire cutters."


If you die with nothing but a pair of wire cutters you're a meth head scrapping copper in abandoned houses.
 
2022-01-23 9:31:49 AM  

bughunter: Formerly 11 for 11.

12 is seriously contemplating suicide because you're unable to quit.

/3 years, 2 months, 6 days sober


Congratulations bughunter! I'm at 1 year 2 months.
 
2022-01-23 9:34:54 AM  
My father's side struggled with alcohol addiction. There was a time in Germany where I would consistently have a beer or two with dinner. Now, I drink once or twice a week, usually less than 3 drinks each session.

Building a bar in my living room, oddly enough, reduced my inclination to drink regularly. Hell, I don't even drink the sodas because I want to have enough if people want to use them for mixers.
 
2022-01-23 9:35:04 AM  
Man, all the sympathies and congrats to everyone in the thread. I wasn't going to look at the list originally because I figured it would hit too close but decided after it hit everyone else. Luckily, I'm nowhere near checking this off. Think I'll have a drink to celebrate!
 
2022-01-23 9:36:07 AM  

born_yesterday: You could just as easily replace alcohol with caffeine or masturbation


I don't think that the crew or waitstaff would appreciate me masturbating on the line to replace a snort every now and then.
 
2022-01-23 9:36:37 AM  

born_yesterday: You could just as easily replace alcohol with caffeine or masturbation


As long as my palms aren't hairy, I'm ok. Right?
 
2022-01-23 9:37:23 AM  
How about "being physically unable to eat, bloated abdomen, yellow face & sclera"?
 
2022-01-23 9:38:09 AM  
Nothing about alcohol being used as a coping mechanism?  That's the easiest one to see in a lot of people, reaching for a bottle when they get the least bit flustered about anything.
 
2022-01-23 9:40:57 AM  
As someone who's probably 6-7 out of 11 on that list, but also doing Dry January at the moment, I make a point to read /r/cripplingalcoholism over on Reddit every so often. It helps remind myself to put the bottle down once in a while and that cannabis is legal in Canada.
 
2022-01-23 9:47:15 AM  

the unabomber was right: Anyone ever try non-alcoholic brew just to ween themselves off the real thing? You still get to go to the store and buy "beer" but without the stuff that makes it bad for you. Does that work or is it a half measure?


I tried near-beer, which somewhat worked in that it made me realize it had everything I didn't want - calories, bitter taste - and not the 'bite' of alcohol nor the intoxicating effect.  Switched to sparkling water like La Croix, which barely tastes like anything but has that 'bite'.

If you're really looking to ween yourselves off the real thing, talk to your doctor about naltrexone and The Sinclair Method.  Naltrexone, taken an hour or so before drinking, blocks the usual endorphin release that alcohol provides, resulting in negative feedback on both a mental ("Why am I drinking if I'm not getting drunk?") and physiological level - actually reversing the neurological changes that reinforce alcohol consumption ( pharmacological extinction).  There's also a shot version (Vivitrol) that's hella expensive if you can't rely on yourself popping a naltrexone pill an hour before drinking.

And yes, you have to keep drinking for it to work.  In fact, it can be taken even if you're deeply physically addicted to the point where cold turkey withdrawal might be fatal.  Drinking on Antabuse, which tries to create an association between drinking and becoming violently ill, can also be fatal.  Naltrexone, on the other hand, takes away the 'fun' of drinking, and turns it into merely consuming expensive empty calories with no buzz associated.

Which is how I felt about 0.0% Heinekin.
 
2022-01-23 9:50:17 AM  

Robinfro: How about "being physically unable to eat, bloated abdomen, yellow face & sclera"?


Probably, but it was hard to see my face in the mirror at that point.
I was 11/11 by the time I was 18.  Young adulthood was hard.

/Regular adulthood sucked too
//Old age looks fun, but at least I'm not drunk.
 
2022-01-23 9:52:45 AM  

born_yesterday: You could just as easily replace alcohol with caffeine or masturbation


No, I tried that. I just ended up with a burnt crotch due to the caffeine shakes. I think I'll stick to just beer with cannabis instead of the two you suggest. Thanks all the same, tho!
 
2022-01-23 10:01:02 AM  

eclecticman666: August11: Currently in a dry January.

I normally exhibit 3 out of 11. So according to my Irish Catholic tribe, I'm "one of the gang that will die in the gutter like uncle Jim with nothing to his name but a pair of Penn Central wire cutters."

If you die with nothing but a pair of wire cutters you're a meth head scrapping copper in abandoned houses.


Uncle Jim passed in 1970. Gin was his preferred ticket.
 
2022-01-23 10:15:50 AM  
I was around 6 or 7 on that list before my doctor scared me into going sober.  I haven't been 100% successful but my drinking is down to a small fraction of what it used to be. I'd say my monthly consumption now equals what I'd drink in a single night a few months ago. Yeah, I was that bad.

If I'm reading my latest test results right, my liver is functioning normally again.  I have a doctor's appointment in the morning so I'll know for sure then.  I know I feel a lot better and am sleeping better than I have in years.
 
2022-01-23 10:18:28 AM  

hubiestubert: born_yesterday: You could just as easily replace alcohol with caffeine or masturbation

I don't think that the crew or waitstaff would appreciate me masturbating on the line to replace a snort every now and then.


that's what got Louis in trouble.  even after asking permission to wank, it's still gross.
 
2022-01-23 10:18:47 AM  
I got popped for  DUI a few years ago and the following year of sobriety was the most productive year ever of my adulthood. Pretty wild. When you can't drink all of sudden there are a lot more hours in a day to fill with various tasks. Whenever I hear a neighbor firing up their lawnmower at 7 am I'm thinking, "Ah, couldn't crack a beer instead?"
 
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