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2022-01-23 8:55:50 AM  
"This reportedly includes Oscar winning actress Lupita Nyong'o, who is reprising her role as Nakia for the first time"

Do copy editors not exist anymore?
 
2022-01-23 9:37:57 AM  
LOL, if the activity on this thread is any indication, there aren't very many people actually excited to see a new Black Panther movie with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins. Even without covid, I thought she was a terrible choice to try and take over, it's like somebody's annoying Kid Sister tagging along to the grown-ups party.
 
2022-01-23 10:06:02 AM  

rummonkey: LOL, if the activity on this thread is any indication, there aren't very many people actually excited to see a new Black Panther movie with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins. Even without covid, I thought she was a terrible choice to try and take over, it's like somebody's annoying Kid Sister tagging along to the grown-ups party.


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2022-01-23 10:25:04 AM  

Bslim: with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins


I have to imagine anyone who has lost a family member or friend to COVID - and by the time you include extended family, that's got to be rapidly approaching "everyone" - is going to be a bit put off by the idea of watching a belligerent anti-vaxxer getting accommodated so she can collect a bigger payday than pretty much all of us reading this will make in our entire lives.

That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.
 
2022-01-23 10:32:56 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Bslim: with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins

I have to imagine anyone who has lost a family member or friend to COVID - and by the time you include extended family, that's got to be rapidly approaching "everyone" - is going to be a bit put off by the idea of watching a belligerent anti-vaxxer getting accommodated so she can collect a bigger payday than pretty much all of us reading this will make in our entire lives.

That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.


I know I'm not gonna pay to see it. Disney should recast her or straight-up whack her ass off-screen.
 
2022-01-23 11:06:11 AM  

Bslim: Unsung_Hero: Bslim: with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins

I have to imagine anyone who has lost a family member or friend to COVID - and by the time you include extended family, that's got to be rapidly approaching "everyone" - is going to be a bit put off by the idea of watching a belligerent anti-vaxxer getting accommodated so she can collect a bigger payday than pretty much all of us reading this will make in our entire lives.

That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.

I know I'm not gonna pay to see it. Disney should recast her or straight-up whack her ass off-screen.


My kids just don't care about superhero stuff anymore and to be perfectly honest unless I like a particular actor, I have no desire to watch anything else in the Marvel Universe either. None of it seems very exciting to me anymore.
 
2022-01-23 11:06:49 AM  
Okoye becoming the Black Panther would be cool.
 
2022-01-23 11:27:11 AM  
I've said before they should write Shuri out. While having the funeral for T'challa, who died heroically, drop a mention of how Shuri also died trying to get toast out of a toaster with a metal knife.
 
2022-01-23 11:36:14 AM  

Boojum2k: I've said before they should write Shuri out. While having the funeral for T'challa, who died heroically, drop a mention of how Shuri also died trying to get toast out of a toaster with a metal knife.


Nah.  Have her get sick.  "She was the brightest and best scientist we had but she was good with computers, not medicine.  She refused a vaccination, so we exiled her to protect others.  Then she got sick, and died.  It's very sad and shameful and we don't want to speak of it again".
 
2022-01-23 12:31:05 PM  
Gee I wonder which antivaxer came to work and coughed on everyone...
 
2022-01-23 12:37:37 PM  

Nurglitch: Okoye becoming the Black Panther would be cool.


I prefer M'Baku. But Okoye would be cool as well.
 
2022-01-23 12:50:17 PM  

Unsung_Hero: That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.


Unless you all are protesting in front of the box office, I sincerely doubt it.
Only the people who read entertainment news know about this.
The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.
 
2022-01-23 1:27:28 PM  

moothemagiccow: The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.


Good point.
 
2022-01-23 1:49:56 PM  

Unsung_Hero: moothemagiccow: The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.

Good point.


Ah yes, the classic Fark dilemma.

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2022-01-23 2:00:50 PM  

EdgeRunner: Unsung_Hero: moothemagiccow: The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.

Good point.

Ah yes, the classic Fark dilemma.

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This movie is already obviously going to suck, so they're just blaming the actors and COVID in advance at the same time.
 
2022-01-23 2:14:04 PM  

covfefe: EdgeRunner: Unsung_Hero: moothemagiccow: The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.

Good point.

Ah yes, the classic Fark dilemma.

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This movie is already obviously going to suck, so they're just blaming the actors and COVID in advance at the same time.


Just like Ghostbusters 2016 and the Star Wars sequels preemptively blamed toxic fans instead of just making a better movie.
 
2022-01-23 2:35:23 PM  

rummonkey: covfefe: EdgeRunner: Unsung_Hero: moothemagiccow: The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.

Good point.

Ah yes, the classic Fark dilemma.

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This movie is already obviously going to suck, so they're just blaming the actors and COVID in advance at the same time.

Just like Ghostbusters 2016 and the Star Wars sequels preemptively blamed toxic fans instead of just making a better movie.


They don't need to invent excuses for legitimate problems. Losing Chadwick Boseman was a crushing blow, but because of the way they've intertwined all their movies, they must not think it's an option to do the decent thing and put the BP movies on hiatus until everyone can accept the idea of recasting T'Challa.

Since instead they're writing it into canon that T'Challa died, Shuri is the obvious replacement since she's the next in line for the throne. She was a popular character and it might have worked, but first Letitia got injured and then she just had to go all Carano and now they've got more headaches.

They didn't invent Covid shutdowns either. Those have been plaguing movie productions throughout the pandemic years, with The Batman shoot even having its star Pattinson, who you'd assume would have been the most protected out of the entire cast, come down with it.

BP2 is very likely to be a mess, but the reasons why have been widely publicized, and Marvel's still struggling to save the movie, not drive down expectations.
 
2022-01-23 2:48:46 PM  
Hey, maybe we just ... shouldn't be doing this right now? Just an idea.
 
2022-01-23 2:49:41 PM  
The MCU is coherent enough that when an actor dies or retires, the character in the movies should die. It's okay to do cameos or movies of the past, or holograms from a projector like in Endgame, or temporary multiverse returns for satisfying narrative purposes but the character's over, and should die.

Iron Man and Black Widow died fighting Thanos and Captain America should have died too when he got punched flat in Endgame so hard the camera didn't focus. Gamora should have stolen the gauntlet from Thanos like in the comic, but died instead. Black Panther could have died in IW for all that he mattered in Endgame. At least both Thanos died.

I wish Endgame had had more hijinks at the end like it promised. Gamora should have participated in killing her father, for one thing. That movie could have been so much richer at the end.
 
2022-01-23 2:55:07 PM  

EdgeRunner: rummonkey: covfefe: EdgeRunner: Unsung_Hero: moothemagiccow: The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.

Good point.

Ah yes, the classic Fark dilemma.

[Fark user image image 425x643]

This movie is already obviously going to suck, so they're just blaming the actors and COVID in advance at the same time.

Just like Ghostbusters 2016 and the Star Wars sequels preemptively blamed toxic fans instead of just making a better movie.

They don't need to invent excuses for legitimate problems. Losing Chadwick Boseman was a crushing blow, but because of the way they've intertwined all their movies, they must not think it's an option to do the decent thing and put the BP movies on hiatus until everyone can accept the idea of recasting T'Challa.

Since instead they're writing it into canon that T'Challa died, Shuri is the obvious replacement since she's the next in line for the throne. She was a popular character and it might have worked, but first Letitia got injured and then she just had to go all Carano and now they've got more headaches.

They didn't invent Covid shutdowns either. Those have been plaguing movie productions throughout the pandemic years, with The Batman shoot even having its star Pattinson, who you'd assume would have been the most protected out of the entire cast, come down with it.

BP2 is very likely to be a mess, but the reasons why have been widely publicized, and Marvel's still struggling to save the movie, not drive down expectations.


It was already well established that the title of black panther is not entirely hereditary but must be finally be won through trial by combat. All they have to do is have somebody in there who actually looks like they could fight anything larger than a 5th Grader that actually has some sort of chemistry with the camera.
 
2022-01-23 2:56:08 PM  
Damn it, I just thought of a great joke for the last post.

Having somebody beat the next Black Panther whose claim to fame is running around with Thundercats hands yelling "Pew! Pew!" doesn't quite work.
 
2022-01-23 3:09:36 PM  

austerity101: Hey, maybe we just ... shouldn't be doing this right now? Just an idea.


What, continue to make movies? Yeah, that's an idea . . . a dumb one.
 
2022-01-23 3:19:32 PM  
Are all the Vibranium miners out sick?
 
2022-01-23 3:24:17 PM  

rummonkey: It was already well established that the title of black panther is not entirely hereditary but must be finally be won through trial by combat. All they have to do is have somebody in there who actually looks like they could fight anything larger than a 5th Grader that actually has some sort of chemistry with the camera.


Yeah, but they'd also be establishing that the new Black Panther is someone willing to beat up a teenage kid who's still grieving the loss of her brother. It would play better if Shuri willingly handed off the responsibility to someone else, or at least agreed to throw the fight.

But while you guys might not be crazy about Shuri, she really is a fan favorite and was Marvel's preferred replacement. They should have known better though. It's been known for awhile that Wright was "just asking questions" about vaccinations, and was gearing up to be a PR nightmare. They're unwilling to recast T'Challa out of respect, but I'll be surprised if they don't recast Shuri.
 
2022-01-23 3:43:18 PM  

rummonkey: LOL, if the activity on this thread is any indication, there aren't very many people actually excited to see a new Black Panther movie with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins. Even without covid, I thought she was a terrible choice to try and take over, it's like somebody's annoying Kid Sister tagging along to the grown-ups party.


I can get past her politics but she's simply too small and frail looking to be a convincing Black Panther.  Hell, she looked ridiculous coming through that portal in Endgame wearing those tiger paw things.

At this point they really need to regroup, rethink, and reshoot.    This many delays, this many on set problems, you just know it's going to suck.  That's no way to honor Chadwick Boseman's legacy.
 
2022-01-23 3:47:28 PM  
rummonkey:

It was already well established that the title of black panther is not entirely hereditary but must be finally be won through trial by combat. All they have to do is have somebody in there who actually looks like they could fight anything larger than a 5th Grader that actually has some sort of chemistry with the camera.

Kilmonger's forgotten twin brother maybe?
 
2022-01-23 3:59:34 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: "This reportedly includes Oscar winning actress Lupita Nyong'o, who is reprising her role as Nakia for the first time"

Do copy editors not exist anymore?


The website looks like a glorified blog that regurgitates other people's original reporting.
 
2022-01-23 4:03:08 PM  
I saw Emila Clarke filming The Secret Invasion in Yorkshire today, which was quite exciting.

/by "saw", I mean I saw her back, from a friend's apartment, about 20m below.

//I only knew it was her hours latter because this set photo leaked on Reddit today.

///imagine Bungles, 5 floors above, wondering if The Krankies were filming a Christmas special

////all the signage and shop signs set dressing are in Russian, so there's an exciting exclusive for you. Russia's involved.

//Samuel L Jackson was also apparently filming, but I didn't see his bottom

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2022-01-23 4:09:40 PM  

Great_Milenko: I can get past her politics but she's simply too small and frail looking to be a convincing Black Panther. Hell, she looked ridiculous coming through that portal in Endgame wearing those tiger paw things.


That's the least of their issues. They were able to successfully sell Baby Groot and Rocket as formidible combatants. Putting Shuri in a power suit that amplifies her abilities beyond just what the Black Panther powers give her (they'll say somebody stashed some extra flowers or seeds somewhere, you just know it) is an easy and obvious fix. T'Challa's suit was already amped up. Hers would just be more amped, as you'd expect from any comic book genius character.
 
2022-01-23 4:47:22 PM  

Bslim: Unsung_Hero: Bslim: with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins

I have to imagine anyone who has lost a family member or friend to COVID - and by the time you include extended family, that's got to be rapidly approaching "everyone" - is going to be a bit put off by the idea of watching a belligerent anti-vaxxer getting accommodated so she can collect a bigger payday than pretty much all of us reading this will make in our entire lives.

That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.

I know I'm not gonna pay to see it. Disney should recast her or straight-up whack her ass off-screen.


Yeah, fark all the other actors.
 
2022-01-23 4:51:27 PM  

InfoFreako: Yeah, fark all the other actors.


They've been paid.  The biggest names could have percentages, but that doesn't seem that likely.  Actually... maybe Letitia had enough leverage?  In which case I'm happy to see her payday reduced.  Disney can more than afford the hit, I'm not going to shed a tear for the Mouse.
 
2022-01-23 4:51:28 PM  
According to the outlet, several cast and crew members who were working on Wakanda Forever have tested positive. This reportedly includes Oscar winning actress Lupita Nyong'o


Least surprising twist ever.
 
2022-01-23 6:40:43 PM  

moothemagiccow: Unsung_Hero: That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.

Unless you all are protesting in front of the box office, I sincerely doubt it.
Only the people who read entertainment news know about this.
The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.


Going to the theater doesn't automatically mean one is ignoring the risks. I'm vaccinated with the booster and I went to the theater to see Spider-man: No Way Home while wearing a mask and with hand sanitizer in my purse.

I didn't ignore the risks. I took the necessary precautions.

/And that was three weeks ago and I still feel fine thankyouverymuch.
 
2022-01-23 6:49:51 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: "This reportedly includes Oscar winning actress Lupita Nyong'o, who is reprising her role as Nakia for the first time"

Do copy editors not exist anymore?


She played the role once, and she is coming back for the first time to play it again. Sort of a "second place is first loser" thing. I encourage you to do your own research and make up your mind.
 
2022-01-23 6:52:47 PM  

Fonaibung: Incorrigible Astronaut: "This reportedly includes Oscar winning actress Lupita Nyong'o, who is reprising her role as Nakia for the first time"

Do copy editors not exist anymore?

She played the role once, and she is coming back for the first time to play it again. Sort of a "second place is first loser" thing. I encourage you to do your own research and make up your mind.


I understand what they were saying. It was worded awkwardly.
 
2022-01-23 7:38:12 PM  

browneye: moothemagiccow: Unsung_Hero: That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.

Unless you all are protesting in front of the box office, I sincerely doubt it.
Only the people who read entertainment news know about this.
The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.

Going to the theater doesn't automatically mean one is ignoring the risks. I'm vaccinated with the booster and I went to the theater to see Spider-man: No Way Home while wearing a mask and with hand sanitizer in my purse.

I didn't ignore the risks. I took the necessary precautions.

/And that was three weeks ago and I still feel fine thankyouverymuch.


It still means you're accepting unnecessary risks. And the dangers posed by a theater have more to do with ventilation quality and whether the crowd stays absolutely quiet or talks/laughs/breathes heavy. (So definitely avoid rude audiences, comedies, and porn.)

The Seattle Times ran an article on the respective odds of Covid transmission in various places. Quick summary? Do NOT go to the gym in 20 minutes. Maybe don't go to the gym at all for awhile.
 
2022-01-23 8:24:55 PM  
Shuri was a pathetic, laughable, pandering "girl boss" character the put a blight on the entire MCU. The less of her, the better.
 
2022-01-23 8:34:37 PM  

Incorrigible Astronaut: Fonaibung: Incorrigible Astronaut: "This reportedly includes Oscar winning actress Lupita Nyong'o, who is reprising her role as Nakia for the first time"

Do copy editors not exist anymore?

She played the role once, and she is coming back for the first time to play it again. Sort of a "second place is first loser" thing. I encourage you to do your own research and make up your mind.

I understand what they were saying. It was worded awkwardly.


They could have just said she was reprising her role, how many times did not seem relevant but we are just lucky the writer did not just do it in emote speak or whatnot.
 
2022-01-23 8:40:31 PM  

WhippingBoi: Shuri was a pathetic, laughable, pandering "girl boss" character the put a blight on the entire MCU. The less of her, the better.


Shuri was just another instance of the old Teen Genius trope, and nowhere near the most annoying example. At least she wasn't wearing dorky sweaters all the time.
 
2022-01-24 12:54:09 AM  

EdgeRunner: browneye: moothemagiccow: Unsung_Hero: That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.

Unless you all are protesting in front of the box office, I sincerely doubt it.
Only the people who read entertainment news know about this.
The people who go to the movies are already ignoring the risks.

Going to the theater doesn't automatically mean one is ignoring the risks. I'm vaccinated with the booster and I went to the theater to see Spider-man: No Way Home while wearing a mask and with hand sanitizer in my purse.

I didn't ignore the risks. I took the necessary precautions.

/And that was three weeks ago and I still feel fine thankyouverymuch.

It still means you're accepting unnecessary risks. And the dangers posed by a theater have more to do with ventilation quality and whether the crowd stays absolutely quiet or talks/laughs/breathes heavy. (So definitely avoid rude audiences, comedies, and porn.)


Well we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the unnecessary risks argument.
 
2022-01-24 1:11:13 AM  

browneye: Well we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the unnecessary risks argument.


If you're suggesting that going to a crowded movie theater is necessary right now, then yeah, hard disagree.
 
2022-01-24 1:44:18 AM  

rummonkey: Bslim: Unsung_Hero: Bslim: with their new Covid Queen trying to take up the reins

I have to imagine anyone who has lost a family member or friend to COVID - and by the time you include extended family, that's got to be rapidly approaching "everyone" - is going to be a bit put off by the idea of watching a belligerent anti-vaxxer getting accommodated so she can collect a bigger payday than pretty much all of us reading this will make in our entire lives.

That has to be a factor in the movie's eventual box office.

I know I'm not gonna pay to see it. Disney should recast her or straight-up whack her ass off-screen.

My kids just don't care about superhero stuff anymore and to be perfectly honest unless I like a particular actor, I have no desire to watch anything else in the Marvel Universe either. None of it seems very exciting to me anymore.


I dig your slam poetry podcast.
 
2022-01-24 3:28:40 AM  
EdgeRunner:

Since instead they're writing it into canon that T'Challa died, Shuri is the obvious replacement since she's the next in line for the throne.

No she isn't, next in line is who ever can win a fight. Wake day has a very unstable line of succession, where as most monarchies enshrine in law "the eldest takes the thrown" to stop infighting.
 
2022-01-24 3:34:24 AM  

Great_Milenko: rummonkey: 

I can get past her politics but she's simply too small and frail looking to be a convincing Black Panther.  ridiculous


They made Gal Gadot believable as the strongest woman in the world
 
2022-01-24 8:10:29 AM  

EdgeRunner: browneye: Well we're just going to have to agree to disagree on the unnecessary risks argument.

If you're suggesting that going to a crowded movie theater is necessary right now, then yeah, hard disagree.


Cinemark Standard

And the theater wasn't crowded.
 
2022-01-24 8:30:10 AM  

ReaverZ: Great_Milenko: rummonkey: 

I can get past her politics but she's simply too small and frail looking to be a convincing Black Panther.  ridiculous

They made Gal Gadot believable as the strongest woman in the world


Gadot was a combat trainer in the IDF. That means she actually can kick most people's asses. Wright, on the other hand, only has the training Marvel has given her and the power of her self-righteousness.
 
2022-01-24 10:29:31 AM  

ReaverZ: Great_Milenko: rummonkey: 

I can get past her politics but she's simply too small and frail looking to be a convincing Black Panther.  ridiculous

They made Gal Gadot believable as the strongest woman in the world


Conversely, how could a woman as strong as Wonder Woman make any gains when she can crumble stone with her bare hands?
 
2022-01-24 12:52:02 PM  

ReaverZ: EdgeRunner:

Since instead they're writing it into canon that T'Challa died, Shuri is the obvious replacement since she's the next in line for the throne.

No she isn't, next in line is who ever can win a fight. Wake day has a very unstable line of succession, where as most monarchies enshrine in law "the eldest takes the thrown" to stop infighting.


After T'Challa's father died, T'Challa automatically took the title of Black Panther. Others were allowed to challenge him for it later on, but if no one had, he would have simply slid into the role by right of succession.

M'Baku's challenge was also apparently unexpected, implying that the challenge option wasn't something that got used very often.
 
2022-01-24 1:07:59 PM  

Nurglitch: ReaverZ: Great_Milenko: rummonkey: 

I can get past her politics but she's simply too small and frail looking to be a convincing Black Panther.  ridiculous

They made Gal Gadot believable as the strongest woman in the world

Conversely, how could a woman as strong as Wonder Woman make any gains when she can crumble stone with her bare hands?


In Wonder Woman's case, she was constantly working out on her hidden island, following a specific regimen meant to keep Amazonians in peak condition. The one who doesn't make sense is Superman. Even if he's got a Kryptonian bowflex in his Fortress, why would he use it? He already has to pull all his punches to keep from turning bank robbers into puffs of red mist. Maxing out his physique just means he has to walk even more gingerly among the citizens of Earth.

I think he just stays in top shape so he cuts a sharp figure in his spandex uniform. Sure, he might accidentally step on someone's foot and wind up ripping off their whole leg, but he'll look good while he's doing it!
 
2022-01-24 7:39:23 PM  

EdgeRunner: ReaverZ: EdgeRunner:

Since instead they're writing it into canon that T'Challa died, Shuri is the obvious replacement since she's the next in line for the throne.

No she isn't, next in line is who ever can win a fight. Wake day has a very unstable line of succession, where as most monarchies enshrine in law "the eldest takes the thrown" to stop infighting.

After T'Challa's father died, T'Challa automatically took the title of Black Panther. Others were allowed to challenge him for it later on, but if no one had, he would have simply slid into the role by right of succession.

M'Baku's challenge was also apparently unexpected, implying that the challenge option wasn't something that got used very often.


T'Challa was Black Panther in Civil War, wasn't he? He took over that mantle first. I will admit he was the heir apparent and everyone was willing to give it to him, but it is not automatic.
 
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