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2022-01-22 9:12:34 PM  
Metal Gear didn't make it to the list?
 
2022-01-22 9:23:41 PM  
#1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12, #13, #14, #15, #16, #17, #18, #19, #20:

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2022-01-22 11:29:53 PM  
Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.
 
2022-01-22 11:30:26 PM  
I've beaten Shredder once, then I never played that game again.
 
2022-01-22 11:31:04 PM  
The only one of those I beat legitimately (Contra cheat) was Megaman.  Couldn't beat TMNT, Blaster Master, or Punch Out.  Never played FF1, but I beat almost every other FF game that followed.
 
2022-01-22 11:33:58 PM  
Emulators are the o my practical way to beat most of those games these days.

I played both Fester's Quest and TMNT on the NES originally. Both hard as fark.
 
2022-01-22 11:39:42 PM  
I have been involved in winning Ghosts & Goblins, Blaster Master, FF, and Fester's Quest with friends taking turns over a long period of time.
This would not have happened without a lot of dope.
 
2022-01-22 11:42:19 PM  
The biggest pains about Top Gun were the landing and mid-air refueling.  If you were good at using the guns rather than the missiles, you would probably survive longer against approaching missiles.

Honestly, I haven't played most of those games.
 
2022-01-23 12:01:36 AM  
The only thing hard about FF1 is maintaining the patience to grind it out.

TFA take on TMNT and Ninja Gaiden are on point.

Zelda 2, though... I mean it's difficult, but it isn't THAT difficult. Maybe this guy just sucks.
 
2022-01-23 12:04:18 AM  

Kornchex: The only one of those I beat legitimately (Contra cheat) was Megaman.  Couldn't beat TMNT, Blaster Master, or Punch Out.  Never played FF1, but I beat almost every other FF game that followed.


Mega Man had a glitch for one of the boss fights, and I'm not ashamed to admit I made use of it.  FF1 NES gets much easier once you discover the Peninsula of Power, or you can play any of the various rereleases to almost completely remove the difficulty.
 
2022-01-23 12:05:20 AM  
No Karnak? No Kid Icarus? No Goonies II?
 
2022-01-23 12:17:10 AM  
A good bunch of those games aren't "difficult" in the traditional sense so much as they're legit buggy or otherwise janky as fark, making them more trouble than they're worth. Top Gun is ridiculous though and shouldn't even be on the list. The only mildly difficult, more like sorta-random chance part of the game is dodging missiles. Landing and refueling sequences tell you exactly what you need to do (including target altitude and airspeed) and your airspeed is controllable, but no one ever seems to notice. You don't even have to be perfect, just in the general ballpark.

/Blaster Master's picture is from the modern pseduo-remake-sequel and not the NES game
//whoever made this list probably just looked up someone else's lists
///gotta meet those deadlines
 
2022-01-23 12:17:23 AM  
I've played all but 2,12,13,and 14 on the original hardware and man that Silver Surfer game is a pain in the ass. Some young player of bullet hell games could probably manage it but I wasn't up to the challenge in my late teens and I'm sure I couldn't now. All the rest are some of my favorites.
 
2022-01-23 12:27:03 AM  
My friends and I liked to call it Ninja God Damn for a reason, and Battletoads is hard as far when it comes to the turbo tunnel... but Final Fantasy 1 just takes time and is still one of my favorite games ever.
 
2022-01-23 12:30:32 AM  

Brief Dissertation: No Karnak? No Kid Icarus? No Goonies II?


The Immortal is also harder than fark.
 
2022-01-23 12:40:44 AM  
Just playing NES for hours. High on dope.
 
2022-01-23 12:57:06 AM  
I didn't think Karate Kid or Final Fantasy were that hard. You could easily beat Karate Kid in 30 minutes or less.

FF was harder because it was so jank - like close to half the spells are bugged, for example.

Never did beat Fester's Quest or Blaster Master though.
 
2022-01-23 1:20:12 AM  
A few years ago, Mike Tyson was on The Tonight Show, and Jimmy Fallon had him try to beat his character on Punch Out. He lost, of course.
 
2022-01-23 1:21:56 AM  

Brief Dissertation: No Karnak? No Kid Icarus? No Goonies II?


I loved Goonies II. My only gripe is I never found the candle until the internet was a thing. Honestly I have no idea how anyone finished a lot of those games without guides.
 
2022-01-23 1:43:12 AM  

GodComplex: Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.


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2022-01-23 1:59:30 AM  

leeksfromchichis: GodComplex: Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.

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White mage solo


While impressive, it would be much more impressive if it weren't one of the remakes.
 
2022-01-23 2:04:15 AM  

Brief Dissertation: leeksfromchichis: GodComplex: Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.

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White mage solo

While impressive, it would be much more impressive if it weren't one of the remakes.


The remakes are actually more grindy because there isn't that glitchy peninsula to power level in.  That's harder in a way.
 
2022-01-23 2:23:10 AM  
I'm going to take a wild guess and say the author didn't play either Days of Thunder (not on the list) or Yo! Noid (on the list).
 
2022-01-23 2:26:08 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Brief Dissertation: leeksfromchichis: GodComplex: Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.

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White mage solo

While impressive, it would be much more impressive if it weren't one of the remakes.

The remakes are actually more grindy because there isn't that glitchy peninsula to power level in.  That's harder in a way.


This is incorrect, unless it's one of the brand spankin' new ones. That looks like the GBA port, and it's definitely there. More importantly, what makes the remakes easier is MP instead of SP for spells. Making it through some of those dungeons with single-digit casts of your best spells and no restoratives was what made the NES version so tough.
 
2022-01-23 2:47:50 AM  
Marble Madness?
 
2022-01-23 2:58:43 AM  
I am sorry but Karate Kid doesn't belong on the list.

Beat that game in a afternoon, the day I got it.

Fester's Quest should be number one just for getting stuck with the wave gun in the swears. Goonies II (like most had no instructions)
 
2022-01-23 3:19:17 AM  

Brief Dissertation: No Karnak? No Kid Icarus? No Goonies II?


Do you mean Karnov? Big Karnac was never an NES title.

Karnov was one of the few games, I actually beat as a child.
 
2022-01-23 3:31:31 AM  
No Rygar? Guardian Legend? Cobra Triangle? Bionic Commando?
 
2022-01-23 4:02:16 AM  
I just realized I have 14 Castlevania games on my Xbox. Still play C3 on occasion and swear up a storm trying to get Grant to stick to the walls with that goddam controller.
 
2022-01-23 4:10:28 AM  

Spartapuss: Brief Dissertation: No Karnak? No Kid Icarus? No Goonies II?

Do you mean Karnov? Big Karnac was never an NES title.

Karnov was one of the few games, I actually beat as a child.


I did indeed mean Karnov. It has been a long time, but I remember having difficulties with it.
 
2022-01-23 4:27:17 AM  
No Ikari Warriors? Long as fark and impossible if you didn't know the ABBA code. Also even with the code, there was a chance you'd respawn behind an impassible barrier and have to reset the game.

I'd also like to brag that I could beat both Elecman and the Rock Monster without getting hit. And the trick to Battletoads' speed bike level is to put your brain in "Tetris mode", where you don't actually consciously think about where the pieces should go or where the barriers are, you become one with the game. Like you enter a kind of flow state.
 
2022-01-23 4:48:51 AM  
FF1 does not belong on that list, it does have a bit of a learning curve but it is not on the same level of difficulty as the rest of the list.

LOZ: II  Link's quest should be higher. took me tens of attempts ( probably 20-30 in total) before i beat it.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2022-01-23 4:53:15 AM  
Castlevania III, Contra, and maybe Zelda II do t belong on that list.

I made it to Jacquio or whomever in Ninja Gaiden twice and just in his first form and as far as I'm concerned I beat that game.

Castlevania III was pretty easy if you kept the pirate guy.  Contra was just memorization.  Ghosts and Goblins can fark off!

Tiger Hell and the 194x game need to be mentioned as super hard.  Jackal was very hard, but not impossible.
 
433 [TotalFark]
2022-01-23 5:00:30 AM  

Brief Dissertation: No Karnak? No Kid Icarus? No Goonies II?


This latter two were real tough.  Metroid was no walk in the park, either.

Some games were hard because they were a grind of increasing difficulty, like Bump 'n Jump.  Others were just total jerks from the beginning, like Kid Icarus.

Some of the earlier games were the hardest.
 
2022-01-23 6:31:06 AM  
*reads list*
looks more like my fav games list, they were tough but not too bad(apart from Battletoads, even i gave up)

Nick el Ass: The Immortal is also harder than fark.

This. Never was there a game i wanted to solve more than this one but just couldn't. Frustratingly tough(eventually EMU'd throught it decades later)

However, when it came to playing a game that really, REALLY ticked me off, this was the king:
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God.damned.farking.game. Sheer futility. Ugh.
 
2022-01-23 7:26:53 AM  

oyster_popsicles: *reads list*
looks more like my fav games list, they were tough but not too bad(apart from Battletoads, even i gave up)

Nick el Ass: The Immortal is also harder than fark.
This. Never was there a game i wanted to solve more than this one but just couldn't. Frustratingly tough(eventually EMU'd throught it decades later)

However, when it came to playing a game that really, REALLY ticked me off, this was the king:
[Fark user image image 189x266]

God.damned.farking.game. Sheer futility. Ugh.


Ha, yes! Deadly Towers was almost inexplicable to play. I spent days/weeks in the invisible dungeons before realizing they are not important. Once I found the towers I basically started playing the game, and when I found the secret rooms and gold armor, speed shot and double swords in the towers, the game was actually fun and playable.

But the article is ... Inconsistent. It has Ninja Gaiden and the Karate Kid on the same list as "hard". The Karate Kid is a 5 minute game. It should not be on a list of hard games. Bayou Billy wasn't hard, at all.

The list is missing the Guardian Legend and Zanac (same game but GL has some side scrolling action). Some shoot em up games were not hard, but damn near impossible.
 
2022-01-23 8:18:09 AM  
Several of those games are hard because they are just...bad. Like, really bad. Lookin' at you Bart vs the Space Mutants.
 
2022-01-23 8:21:08 AM  

GodComplex: Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.


Ninjas cheese it too
 
2022-01-23 8:28:16 AM  
I would have put the first Castlevania on there instead of III.

I remember Final Fantasy being a pain until you got the party mix right, but can't remember what that party mix was after all these years.
 
2022-01-23 8:45:05 AM  

Brief Dissertation: leeksfromchichis: Brief Dissertation: leeksfromchichis: GodComplex: Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.

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White mage solo

While impressive, it would be much more impressive if it weren't one of the remakes.

The remakes are actually more grindy because there isn't that glitchy peninsula to power level in.  That's harder in a way.

This is incorrect, unless it's one of the brand spankin' new ones. That looks like the GBA port, and it's definitely there. More importantly, what makes the remakes easier is MP instead of SP for spells. Making it through some of those dungeons with single-digit casts of your best spells and no restoratives was what made the NES version so tough.


Yep, and no retargetting if one of the other characters killed the target before the spell was cast. You were always one bad roll of the dice away from an anabasis death March back to a save point.
You basically just had to over prepare.
 
2022-01-23 8:48:10 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: oyster_popsicles: *reads list*
looks more like my fav games list, they were tough but not too bad(apart from Battletoads, even i gave up)

Nick el Ass: The Immortal is also harder than fark.
This. Never was there a game i wanted to solve more than this one but just couldn't. Frustratingly tough(eventually EMU'd throught it decades later)

However, when it came to playing a game that really, REALLY ticked me off, this was the king:
[Fark user image image 189x266]

God.damned.farking.game. Sheer futility. Ugh.

Ha, yes! Deadly Towers was almost inexplicable to play. I spent days/weeks in the invisible dungeons before realizing they are not important. Once I found the towers I basically started playing the game, and when I found the secret rooms and gold armor, speed shot and double swords in the towers, the game was actually fun and playable.

But the article is ... Inconsistent. It has Ninja Gaiden and the Karate Kid on the same list as "hard". The Karate Kid is a 5 minute game. It should not be on a list of hard games. Bayou Billy wasn't hard, at all.

The list is missing the Guardian Legend and Zanac (same game but GL has some side scrolling action). Some shoot em up games were not hard, but damn near impossible.


Bayou Billy is in that class of games where if you die even once you might as well hit the reset button. Once you have the stick and the bullet proof vest if you die in later stages it's just time to get humiliated. SMS Shinobi is like that too
 
2022-01-23 8:54:50 AM  

433: Brief Dissertation: No Karnak? No Kid Icarus? No Goonies II?

This latter two were real tough.  Metroid was no walk in the park, either.

Some games were hard because they were a grind of increasing difficulty, like Bump 'n Jump.  Others were just total jerks from the beginning, like Kid Icarus.

Some of the earlier games were the hardest.


So many of those games are hard only because you have to perfect play the final stages and get one shot at the boss before having to go back to perfect play of the final stage. With save states or even a chance to start at the boss they are relatively trivial. But Ninja Garden And Sunsoft Batman were damned near impossible for that reason.
 
2022-01-23 9:06:14 AM  

Copperbelly watersnake: I would have put the first Castlevania on there instead of III.

I remember Final Fantasy being a pain until you got the party mix right, but can't remember what that party mix was after all these years.


Depends.  If you're talking NES, I would go with Fighter, Thief, White Mage, Black Mage. Or if you want to go magic heavy go with Fighter, Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage.
 
2022-01-23 9:12:54 AM  
I dunno.

Some of the titles that were "hard" just took time and patience. Some of the above posters
referred to "The Guardian Legend" (my favrit)  or "Blaster Master" which I actually finished.

I think that since home gaming was still in its infancy, there was a lot of "we have to spike
the difficulty or they will finish the game in a weekend" mentality. (Mega Man vs Mega Man II)
Some of the other "hard" games were just fundamentally broken, and thank god for Blockbuster.
(and the Konami code and GameGenies)

FF was fun if you acquired a certain item that guaranteed an easy kill against a certain enemy type.
(get a hammer that acts like Mjolnir and then get back on your boat and wreak havoc on sea creatures,
get an ogre killin' axe and then go to an area were giants spawn and go all hacky/slashy)

/FF, Blaster Master & Zelda II not really,
//but Ninja Gaiden or Castlevania, yeah, screw that noise.
(getting hit mid jump and falling to your doom is quite the bullshiat)
 
2022-01-23 9:58:08 AM  
Castlevania II was harder than III. I beat III accidentally as a 10 year old.

Faxanadu though, *THAT* was a game.
 
2022-01-23 10:02:01 AM  

OrionXVI: Copperbelly watersnake: I would have put the first Castlevania on there instead of III.

I remember Final Fantasy being a pain until you got the party mix right, but can't remember what that party mix was after all these years.

Depends.  If you're talking NES, I would go with Fighter, Thief, White Mage, Black Mage. Or if you want to go magic heavy go with Fighter, Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage.


Think it was fighter, thief or black belt, white mage, and red mage.
 
2022-01-23 10:43:13 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Brief Dissertation: leeksfromchichis: GodComplex: Yeah, I've played most of those and most take a level of commitment to finish. Final Fantasy is only difficult until you get two healing staffs (and have the strategy guide). Final Fantasy III (NES) is harder.

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White mage solo

While impressive, it would be much more impressive if it weren't one of the remakes.

The remakes are actually more grindy because there isn't that glitchy peninsula to power level in.  That's harder in a way.


Remakes were easier because you didn't attack air. That was the biggest game flaw. If you killed an enemy before everyone attacked, your character just attacked the enemy's spot. Newer versions fixed that by re targeting. I think they also removed some of the useless spells so you didn't accidentally waste a spell slot on something like 'lamp.' Been almost 20 years since I played the PS1 version, but I don't recall feeling crippling fear over dealing with the Marsh Cave.

Also, FF1 wasn't that grindy cause you capped at lvl 50. Later games you needed to be 50ish just to have a chance to win.
 
2022-01-23 11:12:05 AM  
That's possibly the best list I've ever seen linked off of fark....  Now I'm not sure what to do with my life.

...maybe try and finally beat TMNT?
 
2022-01-23 11:36:01 AM  
Top Gun.  I don't think I ever got past the second level.  :\
 
2022-01-23 11:51:45 AM  
I still hear the health alarm from Turtles everywhere. It seems to be a default alert tone. Takes me back to the underwater levels every time I hear it.

beep-beep-beep-beep, beep-beep-beep-beep, beep-beep-beep-beep, beep-beep-beep-beep, beep-beep-beep-beep
 
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