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(AP News)   He led a double life, and he killed his wife, but now they'll let him go, because he didn't know, he could have taken a plea, and already been free. Murder now rhymes, it's a sign of the times   (apnews.com) divider line
    More: Misc, Life imprisonment, Gulf War, Prison, Murder, Burlington, Vermont, Criminal law, Gregory Fitzgerald, United States  
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3230 clicks; posted to Main » on 22 Jan 2022 at 9:41 PM (22 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-01-22 9:48:49 PM  
So ... you reject the plea deal hoping to get off, are thrown in the clink instead, and then you can claim you didn't know in order to get take-backsies?

A more felon-oriented me would be furiously taking notes.
 
2022-01-22 9:53:25 PM  
For some reason I read that to the tune of Sk8er Boi. Thanks for the ear worm.
 
2022-01-22 9:56:07 PM  
Casual question, something I haven't really thought of til now, but what's the benefit of life sentences over the death penalty?

Reading this article I'm like, "Yeah well, rehabilitation > paying to keep people in prison for eternity" but on the other side I totally get the brother's point and at the same time what are the odds of him actually contributing to society now that he's basically first entering it in his 60s?
 
2022-01-22 9:56:26 PM  

Wye Knott: For some reason I read that to the tune of Sk8er Boi. Thanks for the ear worm.


I read that in Johnny Cash's voice.
 
2022-01-22 9:56:36 PM  

Wye Knott: For some reason I read that to the tune of Sk8er Boi. Thanks for the ear worm.


Maybe his mistress was Aviril Lavigne
 
2022-01-22 9:57:41 PM  
Life without parole was sold as an alternative to the death penalty that still removed a dangerous criminal from society forever.
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2022-01-22 10:06:38 PM  
How is not knowing, decades later, if the lawyer told him or not resolved in this guy's favor? Seem like that would be true of every case with a rejected plea, unless lawyers are required to document these conversations in some way that wasn't done here.
 
2022-01-22 10:47:58 PM  
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2022-01-22 11:02:31 PM  
And this is why we should have the death penalty

Life without parole is more of a guideline than a rule.
 
2022-01-22 11:42:41 PM  
"Life without parole" doesn't mean the prison can't execute him the day he arrives.
 
2022-01-22 11:52:29 PM  
I gave it a quick read. His lawyer didn't tell him there was a plea deal, and took it to trial. Ended in the permanent sentence. If the lawyer had conveyed the plea offer, he would have gotten 35 years fixed. The man admits to the contrition that would have been a part of the plea, says he should have been informed back then.

I get the logic. If he had been properly counseled, he would have taken the plea and the term that is about up.

Was the lawyer padding his bill? I think at this point, he's too old to be disbarred because he's probably retired.
 
2022-01-23 12:07:47 AM  

wildcardjack: I gave it a quick read. His lawyer didn't tell him there was a plea deal, and took it to trial. Ended in the permanent sentence. If the lawyer had conveyed the plea offer, he would have gotten 35 years fixed. The man admits to the contrition that would have been a part of the plea, says he should have been informed back then.

I get the logic. If he had been properly counseled, he would have taken the plea and the term that is about up.

Was the lawyer padding his bill? I think at this point, he's too old to be disbarred because he's probably retired.


Wouldn't a competent judge confirm that the perp wanted a trial vs the plea deal?

I'm guessing either his lawyer died recently, and he's been waiting to use this excuse from the day he got convicted.

If it's just his word that the lawyer didn't tell him, fark him. He chose a trial because there was a small chance he'd walk. Otherwise, it's take the deal and wait 35 years, and hope you don't make any enemies in prison that entire time, or get cancer, or a heart attack, etc.
 
2022-01-23 12:22:45 AM  
I never understand why they say that prisoners are remorseful, while they are being released against the wishes of the victims' survivors. Who (other than journalism majors) would be fooled by this claim? It seems that truly remorseful prisoners would accept their sentences.
 
2022-01-23 12:44:21 AM  

dyhchong: Casual question, something I haven't really thought of til now, but what's the benefit of life sentences over the death penalty?

Reading this article I'm like, "Yeah well, rehabilitation > paying to keep people in prison for eternity" but on the other side I totally get the brother's point and at the same time what are the odds of him actually contributing to society now that he's basically first entering it in his 60s?


Because not everyone who gets that sentence deserves it and a death sentence can't be reversed
 
2022-01-23 12:45:26 AM  

asmodeus224: And this is why we should have the death penalty

Life without parole is more of a guideline than a rule.


I don't see why we have life in prison. If you're throwing the person away, why go through all the pageantry to try and prove we're better by letting them live in prison forever?
 
2022-01-23 1:16:24 AM  
proteus_b:

I never understand why they say that prisoners are remorseful, while they are being released against the wishes of the victims' survivors.

1.Who are they to determine what length of sentences the law should and should not apply? Maybe someone just bribed them and says hey no sentence for you.
2. What if two survivors have different opinions
3. What if there are no survivors.
 
2022-01-23 1:21:45 AM  
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2022-01-23 1:58:58 AM  

jaivirtualcard: 1.Who are they to determine what length of sentences the law should and should not apply? Maybe someone just bribed them and says hey no sentence for you.
2. What if two survivors have different opinions
3. What if there are no survivors.


Not saying the survivors alone should determine the length of the sentence. Just that it seems if one was truly remorseful, that you wouldn't want to keep inflicting pain on them (in cases that there are, so 3. isn't relevant)
 
2022-01-23 8:25:15 AM  

dyhchong: Casual question, something I haven't really thought of til now, but what's the benefit of life sentences over the death penalty?


We get to lock up more people and care less about their innocence because it's "only" a life sentence instead of execution.
 
2022-01-23 8:52:50 AM  
By the time he's out of prison he'll be 65.  Vermont will be able to shove responsibility for his medical care onto Medicare and not the State of Vermont. This is a cost-saving measure.
 
2022-01-23 11:06:35 AM  
If he will have been in prison for 35 years when they dump on the street penniless, jobless and homeless he may soon wish he was still locked up.
 
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