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2022-01-22 1:58:47 PM  
Of the two parallel avenues, I think the civil case has the potential to be the most damaging to Dump and his rotten crotchfruit.

Assets will be seized.  Loans called.  Their true net worthlessness will be exposed.

I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.

Of course, having that all happen, as well as seeing them ushered out of court in manacles, would be icing on the cake, but as the article points out, securing criminal convictions for that kind of fraud is difficult if they all play the "too stupid to know better" card.
 
2022-01-22 2:27:03 PM  
"We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable."

LOLOL  <points with thumb>  You hear this guy?  He actually thinks Trump isn't going to slither out of this again.

He's not being held accountable.  There will be many years in between this filing of an attempt to hold him accountable and the exhaustion of all his options to delay, during which time this motherf*cker may get elected President and find competent people to stage his coup. How f*cking many times have we seen this?  The eternal optimists say, "Ohhhhh, he's gonna get it this time, he's really gonna get it..." and ther est of us say, "Yeah.  Let's see."  And then he doesn't get it.


markie_farkie: I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.


I see this as just another example of what I'm talking about.  He was barred from declaring Mar-a-Lago a personal residence, as a condition of his tax break.  He did it anyway.  He's not supposed to live there.  People have filed complaints, demanding that local government enforce this.  What happened there?  Nothing. As usual.

Yes, the simple-minded folk who are convinced that THIS time, SOMETHING will happen, yeah, they're going to call me a doomer and poke fun at my "defeatism".  I guess that's what you get called when you say, "This nipping away at small shiat is ineffective.  Let's go for the jugular.  How about that?"
 
2022-01-22 2:39:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable."

LOLOL  <points with thumb>  You hear this guy?  He actually thinks Trump isn't going to slither out of this again.

He's not being held accountable.  There will be many years in between this filing of an attempt to hold him accountable and the exhaustion of all his options to delay, during which time this motherf*cker may get elected President and find competent people to stage his coup. How f*cking many times have we seen this?  The eternal optimists say, "Ohhhhh, he's gonna get it this time, he's really gonna get it..." and ther est of us say, "Yeah.  Let's see."  And then he doesn't get it.


markie_farkie: I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.

I see this as just another example of what I'm talking about.  He was barred from declaring Mar-a-Lago a personal residence, as a condition of his tax break.  He did it anyway.  He's not supposed to live there.  People have filed complaints, demanding that local government enforce this.  What happened there?  Nothing. As usual.

Yes, the simple-minded folk who are convinced that THIS time, SOMETHING will happen, yeah, they're going to call me a doomer and poke fun at my "defeatism".  I guess that's what you get called when you say, "This nipping away at small shiat is ineffective.  Let's go for the jugular.  How about that?"


I agree completely. While so many powerless people so very much WANT TO BELIEVE, the simple stark reality is that he's never going to be seriously injured. Ever. He has too much money to be hurt. What we're seeing is a reality-based role-playing scenario being acted out by wage slaves who've been conditioned to believe their life has meaning beyond what they do for their masters. Average people will continue to dream of justice while their rights are eroded bit by bit while they sleep. This way of thinking has been the norm since the church took over western civilization.
 
2022-01-22 2:49:58 PM  
GOP - "yep, let's feed Trump and his idiot children into the woodchipper...we got House DeSantis waiting in the wings."
 
2022-01-22 3:50:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: What happened there?


In that case, his lawyers found a loophole in the contract.
 
2022-01-22 6:04:48 PM  
Yeah, we've heard that old chestnut for the last 5 years.
 
2022-01-22 6:06:40 PM  
...Jesus Christ Al-f*cking-Mighty, the thread could not go two goddamn posts.  Two.  Goddamn.  Posts.

F*ck me in the f*cking dick.
 
2022-01-22 6:07:12 PM  
He raped his ex in like the 80s, per deposition testimony, and is still going strong, so get real.
 
2022-01-22 6:07:36 PM  
The craft of storytelling has quite a few tricks.

The one that has the listener watch all the crimes being committed under the watchful eye of the prosecutor before he says a word can be a most pleasant style and the joy of the unravelling is most enjoyable.
 
2022-01-22 6:08:49 PM  
It takes a lot to get a mountain to fall on you.  But if it starts to fall, there's no stopping it.
 
2022-01-22 6:09:29 PM  
He's going to try and cut a deal to throw Giuliani, Flynn, Bannon and whoever else it takes right under the ol' greyhound.

Part of that deal will include clause that he essentially goes away forever.

He won't hold his end up though.
 
2022-01-22 6:09:40 PM  
This is all pre-planned. The GQP knows that Trump may go to prison in a few years so they'll ditch him and then put Ron DeathSentence in his place. The CHUDs will still rally around a cruel despotic strongman whether it's Trump or DeathSentence. Selfishness and monstrous amounts of brutality. That's all they care about.

The Cruelty Is The Point.
 
2022-01-22 6:10:01 PM  
Wait for my brother, Baron.
 
2022-01-22 6:10:52 PM  
Is Tfg still being cockblocked by Fox? He won't be the nominee if he is. They'll back someone else.
 
2022-01-22 6:11:33 PM  
What's going to happen eventually is a court judgement he owes tons of back taxes, and a mysterious repayment agreement will happen out of sight, the details of which we aren't privy to, and he'll make a few partial payments, and try to weasel out of the rest, which will send this back to a new round of court cases, at least until he dies, and by then the kids will have moved a lot of assets overseas and so it won't be able to be taken out of his estate.

In other words, he'll lose, but suffer no actual serious consequences.
 
2022-01-22 6:14:02 PM  
Hire your son to "architect" it
Don't pay your contractors
Fake the permits
Skip the environmental impact inspections
Demand substandard construction material

Of course it's crumbling

tl/dr:  Trump touched it
 
2022-01-22 6:14:13 PM  
By 2024 he has huge loans coming due, the IRS will be demanding the $100 million refund he cheated his way to on the casino bankruptcies, and the civil fines will be hitting.

Javanka has their own stash, but Junior and Eric I doubt have any serious money of their own. Its why Junior is working the arena circuit already
 
2022-01-22 6:14:26 PM  
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2022-01-22 6:15:16 PM  
Good News: Republicans realize that Trump has served his purpose and will soon become more of a liability than an asset, and have begun to cut bait.

Bad News: They are still the party of GQP and well on their way to doing away with democracy once and for all in this country and will soon install themselves as theocratic dictators for life.
 
2022-01-22 6:15:22 PM  
So, Trump actually facing the consequences for at least some of this stuff or incapacitated by a stroke by 2024.

Which to choose?
 
2022-01-22 6:15:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable."

LOLOL  <points with thumb>  You hear this guy?  He actually thinks Trump isn't going to slither out of this again.

He's not being held accountable.  There will be many years in between this filing of an attempt to hold him accountable and the exhaustion of all his options to delay, during which time this motherf*cker may get elected President and find competent people to stage his coup. How f*cking many times have we seen this?  The eternal optimists say, "Ohhhhh, he's gonna get it this time, he's really gonna get it..." and ther est of us say, "Yeah.  Let's see."  And then he doesn't get it.


markie_farkie: I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.

I see this as just another example of what I'm talking about.  He was barred from declaring Mar-a-Lago a personal residence, as a condition of his tax break.  He did it anyway.  He's not supposed to live there.  People have filed complaints, demanding that local government enforce this.  What happened there?  Nothing. As usual.

Yes, the simple-minded folk who are convinced that THIS time, SOMETHING will happen, yeah, they're going to call me a doomer and poke fun at my "defeatism".  I guess that's what you get called when you say, "This nipping away at small shiat is ineffective.  Let's go for the jugular.  How about that?"


Weatherkiss: Yeah, we've heard that old chestnut for the last 5 years.


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"We've set up a system where the baseline assumption is that nothing short of, I don't know, full-on in-person murder can disqualify an elite political or business figure from their posting. And that means that people like the Trumps will continue to believe that criminality and collusion are just fine. Unless we're willing to break down that system, and interrogate the role that even Trump's enemies have played in building it, we will get two, three, many Trumps in the future."

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/19/17581546/donald-trump-russia-collusion-elite-impunity-immunity-torture-iran-contra-financial-crisis
 
2022-01-22 6:16:11 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable."

LOLOL  <points with thumb>  You hear this guy?  He actually thinks Trump isn't going to slither out of this again.

He's not being held accountable.  There will be many years in between this filing of an attempt to hold him accountable and the exhaustion of all his options to delay, during which time this motherf*cker may get elected President and find competent people to stage his coup. How f*cking many times have we seen this?  The eternal optimists say, "Ohhhhh, he's gonna get it this time, he's really gonna get it..." and ther est of us say, "Yeah.  Let's see."  And then he doesn't get it.


markie_farkie: I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.

I see this as just another example of what I'm talking about.  He was barred from declaring Mar-a-Lago a personal residence, as a condition of his tax break.  He did it anyway.  He's not supposed to live there.  People have filed complaints, demanding that local government enforce this.  What happened there?  Nothing. As usual.

Yes, the simple-minded folk who are convinced that THIS time, SOMETHING will happen, yeah, they're going to call me a doomer and poke fun at my "defeatism".  I guess that's what you get called when you say, "This nipping away at small shiat is ineffective.  Let's go for the jugular.  How about that?"


I agree with you completely.

This whole thing is just another thing on a huge pile of, "We've really got him this time", which really amounts to a whole lot of, "Ain't nuthin gonna happen."

And there will be no shortage of people here saying, "Well, these things take time.", and "there is no point if they can't make a case."

To which I respond, there has been plenty of time.  Many many times.  There is plenty of evidence.  Years and years worth of evidence.  If you can't get a conviction for all of this shiat, what it really means that is you aren't trying.  Either that or our justice system is completely inept.  Either that or the system is skewed toward punishing the poor and protecting the rich.  Or more likely, all 3.

Drumpf and his family are above the law.  And until I see cuffs on someone, no one is ever going to convince me otherwise.  No matter how many articles get written about it.
 
2022-01-22 6:17:11 PM  
This Trump isn't the one that gets you. It's Trump the 2nd wave when one of his smarter wanna be in the GOP follows his playbook and isn't an idiot.
 
2022-01-22 6:17:20 PM  
i guarantee that Trump isn't the only one overvaluing assets in order to get financing. And the banks willingly turn a blind eye. But don't you try it.
 
2022-01-22 6:18:34 PM  

Clutch2013: F*ck me in the f*cking dick.


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2022-01-22 6:18:52 PM  

durbnpoisn: Benevolent Misanthrope: "We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable."

LOLOL  <points with thumb>  You hear this guy?  He actually thinks Trump isn't going to slither out of this again.

He's not being held accountable.  There will be many years in between this filing of an attempt to hold him accountable and the exhaustion of all his options to delay, during which time this motherf*cker may get elected President and find competent people to stage his coup. How f*cking many times have we seen this?  The eternal optimists say, "Ohhhhh, he's gonna get it this time, he's really gonna get it..." and ther est of us say, "Yeah.  Let's see."  And then he doesn't get it.


markie_farkie: I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.

I see this as just another example of what I'm talking about.  He was barred from declaring Mar-a-Lago a personal residence, as a condition of his tax break.  He did it anyway.  He's not supposed to live there.  People have filed complaints, demanding that local government enforce this.  What happened there?  Nothing. As usual.

Yes, the simple-minded folk who are convinced that THIS time, SOMETHING will happen, yeah, they're going to call me a doomer and poke fun at my "defeatism".  I guess that's what you get called when you say, "This nipping away at small shiat is ineffective.  Let's go for the jugular.  How about that?"

I agree with you completely.

This whole thing is just another thing on a huge pile of, "We've really got him this time", which really amounts to a whole lot of, "Ain't nuthin gonna happen."

And there will be no shortage of people here saying, "Well, these things take time.", and "there is no point if they can't make a case."

To which I resp ...


Garland is a wimp. The head DC prosecutor is a wimp. They had cases a year ago and they aren't pursuing them because Trump is influential and the cases are hard.
 
2022-01-22 6:21:59 PM  
How do these people find accountants to go along with their fraudulent nonsense?  If I went to my accountant and told him to artificially increase the value of my practice by 10x, he would laugh in my face and sever ties with me.    Are these accountants paid obscene amounts of money?  Or do they just enjoy gaming the system?  Because my license (and my accountant's license) isn't worth playing games with the IRS.
 
2022-01-22 6:22:23 PM  
AIN'T
NOTHIN'
GONNA
HAPPEN
 
2022-01-22 6:23:34 PM  
Peter von Nostrand: ........ and isn't an idiot.

Unpossible
 
2022-01-22 6:25:21 PM  
This is all marketing to pretend something will happen leading up to the election while knowing that nothing is actually going to happen.

This the the Democratic version of Benghazi. They have no interest in starting that war but they will pretend to do something in the media for years.
 
2022-01-22 6:25:30 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: This is all pre-planned. The GQP knows that Trump may go to prison in a few years so they'll ditch him and then put Ron DeathSentence in his place. The CHUDs will still rally around a cruel despotic strongman whether it's Trump or DeathSentence. Selfishness and monstrous amounts of brutality. That's all they care about.

The Cruelty Is The Point.


At that point they will have always been at war with Eurasia against Trump
 
2022-01-22 6:25:42 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable."

LOLOL  <points with thumb>  You hear this guy?  He actually thinks Trump isn't going to slither out of this again.

He's not being held accountable.  There will be many years in between this filing of an attempt to hold him accountable and the exhaustion of all his options to delay, during which time this motherf*cker may get elected President and find competent people to stage his coup. How f*cking many times have we seen this?  The eternal optimists say, "Ohhhhh, he's gonna get it this time, he's really gonna get it..." and ther est of us say, "Yeah.  Let's see."  And then he doesn't get it.


markie_farkie: I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.

I see this as just another example of what I'm talking about.  He was barred from declaring Mar-a-Lago a personal residence, as a condition of his tax break.  He did it anyway.  He's not supposed to live there.  People have filed complaints, demanding that local government enforce this.  What happened there?  Nothing. As usual.

Yes, the simple-minded folk who are convinced that THIS time, SOMETHING will happen, yeah, they're going to call me a doomer and poke fun at my "defeatism".  I guess that's what you get called when you say, "This nipping away at small shiat is ineffective.  Let's go for the jugular.  How about that?"


OK, Doomer
 
2022-01-22 6:27:36 PM  

Phil McKraken: Benevolent Misanthrope: "We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable."

LOLOL  <points with thumb>  You hear this guy?  He actually thinks Trump isn't going to slither out of this again.

He's not being held accountable.  There will be many years in between this filing of an attempt to hold him accountable and the exhaustion of all his options to delay, during which time this motherf*cker may get elected President and find competent people to stage his coup. How f*cking many times have we seen this?  The eternal optimists say, "Ohhhhh, he's gonna get it this time, he's really gonna get it..." and ther est of us say, "Yeah.  Let's see."  And then he doesn't get it.


markie_farkie: I think Dump's move to declare Mar-a-Lardo his permanent residence in 2019 was telling.  Even if his entire empire is dissolved, he still gets to declare one property his homestead, and as long as he's able to pay taxes on it, they can't seize it.

I see this as just another example of what I'm talking about.  He was barred from declaring Mar-a-Lago a personal residence, as a condition of his tax break.  He did it anyway.  He's not supposed to live there.  People have filed complaints, demanding that local government enforce this.  What happened there?  Nothing. As usual.

Yes, the simple-minded folk who are convinced that THIS time, SOMETHING will happen, yeah, they're going to call me a doomer and poke fun at my "defeatism".  I guess that's what you get called when you say, "This nipping away at small shiat is ineffective.  Let's go for the jugular.  How about that?"

OK, Doomer


I'm so stealing that.
 
2022-01-22 6:28:01 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: AIN'T
NOTHIN'
GONNA
HAPPEN


OK, doomer.
 
2022-01-22 6:29:12 PM  
Humpty farkin Dumpty
 
2022-01-22 6:30:31 PM  

El_Dan: Garland is a wimp. The head DC prosecutor is a wimp. They had cases a year ago and they aren't pursuing them because Trump is influential and the cases are hard.


And really, there is NO EXCUSE for that shiat.  Drumpf broke a long list of rules and laws.  Drumpf should have been indicted for obstruction of justice right after the first impeachment failed.  Failing that, the day he was no longer President it should have happened.  He also got let off on 2nd impeachment for inciting an insurrection.  For which the DOJ should have IMMEDIATELY had him in cuffs to make an example that NO ONE should EVER do that - especially if you are the farking President!

It's not that there are no cases.  It's not that there is not enough evidence.  What we lack is a DOJ that has any interest in actually doing anything about it.  And it's not even because it's difficult.  It's more like, an awful lot of people may have to start answering questions.  And that might get uncomfortable for the entire government.

So the reason seems to be that they think doing such things would affect the entire government and it's ability to function.  Which, let's face it, is a bunch of bullshiat.  Because if our government requires corruption in order to function, then it's long since time for this government to die.
 
2022-01-22 6:31:58 PM  

gunga galunga: pastramithemosterotic: AIN'T
NOTHIN'
GONNA
HAPPEN

OK, doomer.


go eat ass
 
2022-01-22 6:32:14 PM  
Good news:

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Now you can cheat to win just like Trump!
 
2022-01-22 6:36:03 PM  

Botkin of the Yard: So, Trump actually facing the consequences for at least some of this stuff or incapacitated by a stroke by 2024.

Which to choose?


Let it be a stroke.

The cruelty is the point.
 
2022-01-22 6:36:40 PM  

durbnpoisn: El_Dan: Garland is a wimp. The head DC prosecutor is a wimp. They had cases a year ago and they aren't pursuing them because Trump is influential and the cases are hard.

And really, there is NO EXCUSE for that shiat.  Drumpf broke a long list of rules and laws.  Drumpf should have been indicted for obstruction of justice right after the first impeachment failed.  Failing that, the day he was no longer President it should have happened.  He also got let off on 2nd impeachment for inciting an insurrection.  For which the DOJ should have IMMEDIATELY had him in cuffs to make an example that NO ONE should EVER do that - especially if you are the farking President!

It's not that there are no cases.  It's not that there is not enough evidence.  What we lack is a DOJ that has any interest in actually doing anything about it.  And it's not even because it's difficult.  It's more like, an awful lot of people may have to start answering questions.  And that might get uncomfortable for the entire government.

So the reason seems to be that they think doing such things would affect the entire government and it's ability to function.  Which, let's face it, is a bunch of bullshiat.  Because if our government requires corruption in order to function, then it's long since time for this government to die.


Totally agree. Pursuing Trump was hard so they didn't do it. Or at least, haven't done it yet. It makes no sense except in the context that it would be hard for the people whose job it is.
 
2022-01-22 6:39:35 PM  
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2022-01-22 6:40:10 PM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, we've heard that old chestnut for the last 5 years.


Yes, we all know how distraught you are by repetition.
 
2022-01-22 6:40:42 PM  
OJ Simpson owes about $60 million in civil judgments.  He lives in a gated community on a golf course.  He has friends who will stand by him for the rest of his life and help fund his lifestyle.  He does what he wants, when he wants.  In all likelihood, he'll die having lived a comfortable life (minus that jail stint).

And OJ's got going for him was a good NFL career and a shiatty acting career.  That's nothing in comparison to Trump's influence.

Anybody who thinks Trump or his kids are going to live in destitution post-trial, assuming these trials even rule against them, is delusional.  Their lives will still be better than everyone other than the 1%.

/OK, doomer.
 
2022-01-22 6:43:10 PM  
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2022-01-22 6:43:53 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: gunga galunga: pastramithemosterotic: AIN'T
NOTHIN'
GONNA
HAPPEN

OK, doomer.

go eat ass


Doomer mad
 
2022-01-22 6:44:32 PM  
So ... where's the Complaint? Did any of this happen within the criminal statutes of limitation? If so, where are the criminal charges?
 
2022-01-22 6:45:01 PM  
Game of Bullshiat
 
2022-01-22 6:45:43 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: AIN'T
NOTHIN'
GONNA
HAPPEN


I've adjusted my motto to "I'll believe it when I see it".  Rich people always walk.  Always.  They get high-priced lawyers and they have dirt on powerful people.

I will believe it when I see it.  Until then color me skeptical.
 
2022-01-22 6:46:30 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: gunga galunga: pastramithemosterotic: AIN'T
NOTHIN'
GONNA
HAPPEN

OK, doomer.

go eat ass


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