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2022-01-22 9:52:40 AM  
Is it bad that my first thought was, "Are we gonna learn next week that they started the fire?" (They didn't, it was one of the dogs.)
 
2022-01-22 11:41:11 AM  

Joelogon: Is it bad that my first thought was, "Are we gonna learn next week that they started the fire?" (They didn't, it was one of the dogs.)


Of course they didn't start the fire.
It was always burning since the world's been turning.
 
2022-01-22 11:43:13 AM  
The dog did not turn the burner on, the people are lying.  Maybe they're worried about their insurance claim.
 
2022-01-22 11:52:00 AM  

Joelogon: Is it bad that my first thought was, "Are we gonna learn next week that they started the fire?" (They didn't, it was one of the dogs.)


My first thought was did they got shot by a bunch of rednecks because they thought they were burglars?
 
2022-01-22 11:52:50 AM  
Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)
 
2022-01-22 11:56:23 AM  

wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)


The day cats are a problem is ... several thousand years ago.
 
2022-01-22 12:03:02 PM  

wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)


One of the reasons I'm excited to get an induction range (other than the performance, which is excellent) is that if you put something on there that isn't supposed to be there, it just... doesn't work. You can leave that cutting board on it all day with the range on high and when you get back, it will still be cold.

But yes, don't put cutting boards on stovetops, what the hell is wrong with you.
 
2022-01-22 12:05:35 PM  

wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)


I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.
 
2022-01-22 12:05:37 PM  
Confession booth: father I have sinned grievously. . Ok, what did you do?
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2022-01-22 12:11:01 PM  

Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.


You can buy/make covers for them so they can just be counter space when not in use.

I won't buy a stove with controls on the front. For one, I got a belly and don't need to be accidentally bumping them. For another that's prime splatter/dribble space.
 
2022-01-22 12:12:01 PM  

Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.


I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.
 
2022-01-22 12:12:25 PM  
All those good boys deserve steak. Or pizza, whatever.
 
2022-01-22 12:12:41 PM  

Boudyro: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

You can buy/make covers for them so they can just be counter space when not in use.

I won't buy a stove with controls on the front. For one, I got a belly and don't need to be accidentally bumping them. For another that's prime splatter/dribble space.


You can also just not clean it very well. Having anything become gross if it's put there, is a good deterrent. Not recommended, but it works.
 
2022-01-22 12:17:48 PM  
"We didn't start the fire. That stove's been burning since the world's been turning!"

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2022-01-22 12:18:42 PM  

MillionDollarMo: Joelogon: Is it bad that my first thought was, "Are we gonna learn next week that they started the fire?" (They didn't, it was one of the dogs.)

Of course they didn't start the fire.
It was always burning since the world's been turning.


Well, ain't I the idiot of the day for not reading the thread first.
 
2022-01-22 12:19:26 PM  

wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)


Cats are very determined and calculating.  The stove thing didn't work this time. But tomorrow's another day.
 
2022-01-22 12:19:28 PM  

I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.


Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.
 
2022-01-22 12:21:27 PM  

skinink: MillionDollarMo: Joelogon: Is it bad that my first thought was, "Are we gonna learn next week that they started the fire?" (They didn't, it was one of the dogs.)

Of course they didn't start the fire.
It was always burning since the world's been turning.

Well, ain't I the idiot of the day for not reading the thread first.


Yours has a picture of dogs tho, so it's allowed:
 
2022-01-22 12:21:35 PM  
Did this happen in St Louis? Looks like they are standing in front of the Arch
 
2022-01-22 12:22:44 PM  
Um,...about this headline. The kids got the code to open the door, there was much "busting in"
 
2022-01-22 12:44:48 PM  

Valter: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

The day cats are a problem is ... several thousand years ago.


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2022-01-22 12:48:57 PM  
I love that the dogs were saved, but 'running into a house that appears to be on fire' is not something I would approve my kids doing.  I'm not confident they had enough information to reliably judge how much time they had.

Opening the front door and calling the dogs?  Sure, given no visible flames and the door not being hot.  But running into the home to free the crated dog could easily have led to a dead kid.

Much as I love dogs, I love my kids more, you know?
 
2022-01-22 12:51:17 PM  

noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.


And how would that stop a cat?

/Thinking before posting should just be required.
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2022-01-22 12:53:50 PM  

TomDooley: Joelogon: Is it bad that my first thought was, "Are we gonna learn next week that they started the fire?" (They didn't, it was one of the dogs.)

My first thought was did they got shot by a bunch of rednecks because they thought they were burglars?


They didn't meet the minimum necessary standard...

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2022-01-22 12:54:57 PM  

MillionDollarMo: Joelogon: Is it bad that my first thought was, "Are we gonna learn next week that they started the fire?" (They didn't, it was one of the dogs.)

Of course they didn't start the fire.
It was always burning since the world's been turning.


Leonard burns things!
 
2022-01-22 12:56:19 PM  

noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.


Absolutely. My grandmother ruined a few pots and pans by leaving the stove on. She went to another room and just forgot about them until they started to smoke.

The scary thing was when my stepdad was in the early stages of Alzheimer's. He'd light a cigarette, rest it on the edge of a counter, then would walk away and forget it. The carpet around his recliner had dozens of burn holes in it.
 
2022-01-22 1:04:12 PM  

natazha: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

And how would that stop a cat?


Do you have any evidence that cats turn on stoves?
 
2022-01-22 1:09:52 PM  
I, too, would like to see more people break laws to commit good acts.

/I'm not joking.
 
2022-01-22 1:11:17 PM  

noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.


What if you're simmering something for hours?
 
2022-01-22 1:13:10 PM  

noitsnot: natazha: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

And how would that stop a cat?

Do you have any evidence that cats turn on stoves?


I can't remember the last time I used a stove that didn't require you to push in the knob to turn it. Certainly something a kid will eventually figure out, but a cat managing to do it seems unlikely to me. But I'm sure it's happened.
 
2022-01-22 1:14:53 PM  

The Madd Mann: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

One of the reasons I'm excited to get an induction range (other than the performance, which is excellent) is that if you put something on there that isn't supposed to be there, it just... doesn't work. You can leave that cutting board on it all day with the range on high and when you get back, it will still be cold.

But yes, don't put cutting boards on stovetops, what the hell is wrong with you.


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The photo from TFA.  Sure looks like an induction stove to me.  Between this and them claiming that the dogs started the fire, something's pretty hinky here.
 
2022-01-22 1:18:43 PM  

hlehmann: The Madd Mann: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

One of the reasons I'm excited to get an induction range (other than the performance, which is excellent) is that if you put something on there that isn't supposed to be there, it just... doesn't work. You can leave that cutting board on it all day with the range on high and when you get back, it will still be cold.

But yes, don't put cutting boards on stovetops, what the hell is wrong with you.

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The photo from TFA.  Sure looks like an induction stove to me.  Between this and them claiming that the dogs started the fire, something's pretty hinky here.


That looks a lot like the glass-top electric stove we had at my last place.
 
2022-01-22 1:19:42 PM  

austerity101: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

What if you're simmering something for hours?


It's not a 100% solution but it would improve safety.  It's easy to come up with refinements.  Allow the feature to be disabled for the current cooking session.  Make the inactivity timeout short for the high settings but long for the low settings - maybe you'd only need to check a simmering pot every 30 mins.
 
2022-01-22 1:21:03 PM  

austerity101: noitsnot: natazha: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

And how would that stop a cat?

Do you have any evidence that cats turn on stoves?

I can't remember the last time I used a stove that didn't require you to push in the knob to turn it. Certainly something a kid will eventually figure out, but a cat managing to do it seems unlikely to me. But I'm sure it's happened.


Plus my idea had nothing to do with turning burners on, but whatever.
 
2022-01-22 1:22:26 PM  

hlehmann: The Madd Mann: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

One of the reasons I'm excited to get an induction range (other than the performance, which is excellent) is that if you put something on there that isn't supposed to be there, it just... doesn't work. You can leave that cutting board on it all day with the range on high and when you get back, it will still be cold.

But yes, don't put cutting boards on stovetops, what the hell is wrong with you.

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The photo from TFA.  Sure looks like an induction stove to me.  Between this and them claiming that the dogs started the fire, something's pretty hinky here.


No, the resistance element cooktops all look like this now too.  No more exposed elements, the glass is good enough to handle the heat.
 
2022-01-22 1:22:27 PM  

noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

What if you're simmering something for hours?

It's not a 100% solution but it would improve safety.  It's easy to come up with refinements.  Allow the feature to be disabled for the current cooking session.  Make the inactivity timeout short for the high settings but long for the low settings - maybe you'd only need to check a simmering pot every 30 mins.


It might improve safety but hoo boy would I be pissed if my stove just shut off while I was cooking something. You could absolutely ruin food that way. Is that worse than preventing a fire? No, but consumers wouldn't really see it that way. Especially since long cooking times are more common than house fires.
 
2022-01-22 1:27:26 PM  

noitsnot: The dog did not turn the burner on, the people are lying.  Maybe they're worried about their insurance claim.


I can verify. I left some tasty morsel on the stove one day. Ran to the store. By the time I got back, house was filling up with gas. New claw marks all around the controls. It was Abby, the Springer Spaniel...she's a pig. And short. Ollie is huge. He could have just grabbed the morsels without leaving a trace. Now I never leave anything on the stove when leaving or at night.
 
2022-01-22 1:27:33 PM  
The homeowners are named Salisbury. Their dogs wanted Salisbury steak.
 
2022-01-22 1:29:03 PM  
old oven at an apartment i had- this was only 8-10 years ago, the stove had two holes (on purpose) where the pilot lights flickered merrily.  that's how a cat could potentially disaster a home via stove.  i can't fathom who designed it that way, but it was factory, not some kind of hill jack rig.  i lived in fear of a breeze blowing something flammable across it.  older homes are weird.
and simmering something for hours sounds So Good in this weather, but seriously, just use a crock pot.
 
2022-01-22 1:32:43 PM  
'Busting into the house' = 'Contacted the neighbor/owner who gave them the entry code for the door'

I came into this thread wanting to make a barbed joke about some hoodlums clearly having prior knowledge about busting into houses, and I'm leaving unable to use it.
 
2022-01-22 1:38:44 PM  
... And yet this will still earn some kind of outrage on Nextdoor.
 
2022-01-22 1:42:51 PM  

austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

What if you're simmering something for hours?

It's not a 100% solution but it would improve safety.  It's easy to come up with refinements.  Allow the feature to be disabled for the current cooking session.  Make the inactivity timeout short for the high settings but long for the low settings - maybe you'd only need to check a simmering pot every 30 mins.

It might improve safety but hoo boy would I be pissed if my stove just shut off while I was cooking something. You could absolutely ruin food that way. Is that worse than preventing a fire? No, but consumers wouldn't really see it that way. Especially since long cooking times are more common than house fires.


You shouldn't be putting pots on burners and leaving the room though.
 
2022-01-22 1:45:29 PM  

UpNorthMeech: noitsnot: The dog did not turn the burner on, the people are lying.  Maybe they're worried about their insurance claim.

I can verify. I left some tasty morsel on the stove one day. Ran to the store. By the time I got back, house was filling up with gas. New claw marks all around the controls. It was Abby, the Springer Spaniel...she's a pig. And short. Ollie is huge. He could have just grabbed the morsels without leaving a trace. Now I never leave anything on the stove when leaving or at night.


Yea but in this case, the dog didn't do it.  There was no food on the stove, just the cutting board.  Some human turned on the burner, then they decided "oh let's go out for breakfast".  They just don't want to jinx the insurance claim (not that it would, but that's what they are thinking).
 
2022-01-22 1:45:41 PM  

noitsnot: The dog did not turn the burner on, the people are lying.  Maybe they're worried about their insurance claim.


Who stores combustibles on a stove? A cutting board? Come on.
 
2022-01-22 2:02:39 PM  

The Madd Mann: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

One of the reasons I'm excited to get an induction range (other than the performance, which is excellent) is that if you put something on there that isn't supposed to be there, it just... doesn't work. You can leave that cutting board on it all day with the range on high and when you get back, it will still be cold.

But yes, don't put cutting boards on stovetops, what the hell is wrong with you.


My ex-wife used to do that. I told her many times to stop because she also has a counter surfing dog who will check out anything you leave up there. One day she went to get the mail and got back to the smell of gas in the house.

The few minutes she was gone the dog turned on one of the burners but past where it lights so it was just spewing gas, not burning. If that had happened while she was at work or something and filling the house with gas for 6-8 hours. That could have been really bad. She finally took my advice and stopped using her stove top as a storage space.
 
2022-01-22 2:05:47 PM  

noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

What if you're simmering something for hours?

It's not a 100% solution but it would improve safety.  It's easy to come up with refinements.  Allow the feature to be disabled for the current cooking session.  Make the inactivity timeout short for the high settings but long for the low settings - maybe you'd only need to check a simmering pot every 30 mins.

It might improve safety but hoo boy would I be pissed if my stove just shut off while I was cooking something. You could absolutely ruin food that way. Is that worse than preventing a fire? No, but consumers wouldn't really see it that way. Especially since long cooking times are more common than house fires.

You shouldn't be putting pots on burners and leaving the room though.


Are you even kidding me? I'm not going to sit in a kitchen for literal hours while something is simmering on the stove. I don't know what kind of privileged life you lead, but mine doesn't usually allow for that kind of free time. I have other things I need to do around the house.
 
2022-01-22 2:15:10 PM  

austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

What if you're simmering something for hours?

It's not a 100% solution but it would improve safety.  It's easy to come up with refinements.  Allow the feature to be disabled for the current cooking session.  Make the inactivity timeout short for the high settings but long for the low settings - maybe you'd only need to check a simmering pot every 30 mins.

It might improve safety but hoo boy would I be pissed if my stove just shut off while I was cooking something. You could absolutely ruin food that way. Is that worse than preventing a fire? No, but consumers wouldn't really see it that way. Especially since long cooking times are more common than house fires.

You shouldn't be putting pots on burners and leaving the room though.

Are you even kidding me? I'm not going to sit in a kitchen for literal hours while something is simmering on the stove. I don't know what kind of privileged life you lead, but mine doesn't usually allow for that kind of free time. I have other things I need to do around the house.


Are you the one who's impossible to satisfy, or is that austerity?  I think that's austerity.

It would be pretty easy to refine, and you'd just not use it.  Your prerogative.
 
2022-01-22 2:16:59 PM  

noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

What if you're simmering something for hours?

It's not a 100% solution but it would improve safety.  It's easy to come up with refinements.  Allow the feature to be disabled for the current cooking session.  Make the inactivity timeout short for the high settings but long for the low settings - maybe you'd only need to check a simmering pot every 30 mins.

It might improve safety but hoo boy would I be pissed if my stove just shut off while I was cooking something. You could absolutely ruin food that way. Is that worse than preventing a fire? No, but consumers wouldn't really see it that way. Especially since long cooking times are more common than house fires.

You shouldn't be putting pots on burners and leaving the room though.

Are you even kidding me? I'm not going to sit in a kitchen for literal hours while something is simmering on the stove. I don't know what kind of privileged life you lead, but mine doesn't usually allow for that kind of free time. I have other things I need to do around the house.

Are you the one who's impossible to satisfy, or is that austerity?  I think that's austerity.

It would be pretty easy to refine, and you'd just not use it.  Your prerogative.


Oh lol it is you!   I had it in my mind that it was aungen replying.  Yeah as far as I see, you argue with everything and never agree with anyone.  So I don't feel too bad.
 
2022-01-22 2:20:22 PM  

austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: austerity101: noitsnot: I-K-Rumba: Sexy Jesus: wingedkat: Never leave anything on a stove that isn't stove-safe.

I also much prefer the older stoves with the controls at the back.  More child and dog safe (although I've heard cats can still be a problem)

I go round and round with my gf and her grandson about this. We have one of those IR glass stoves and it is just such an alluring place to put stuff.  My favorite was the big bag of cotton rags and a quart of acetone bought for a paint project. Those flat stoves should have spikes that stick up when not in use.

I have a flat top stove and I like the idea of spikes that stick up when not in use. And the spikes should be red hot and electrically charged.

Cooktops should just have motion sensors and shut off if no one is nearby.  Easy to do.

What if you're simmering something for hours?

It's not a 100% solution but it would improve safety.  It's easy to come up with refinements.  Allow the feature to be disabled for the current cooking session.  Make the inactivity timeout short for the high settings but long for the low settings - maybe you'd only need to check a simmering pot every 30 mins.

It might improve safety but hoo boy would I be pissed if my stove just shut off while I was cooking something. You could absolutely ruin food that way. Is that worse than preventing a fire? No, but consumers wouldn't really see it that way. Especially since long cooking times are more common than house fires.

You shouldn't be putting pots on burners and leaving the room though.

Are you even kidding me? I'm not going to sit in a kitchen for literal hours while something is simmering on the stove. I don't know what kind of privileged life you lead, but mine doesn't usually allow for that kind of free time. I have other things I need to do around the house.


You spend HOURS on Fark each day.  I'm sure you have the time.
 
2022-01-22 2:36:00 PM  

bigdog1960: noitsnot: The dog did not turn the burner on, the people are lying.  Maybe they're worried about their insurance claim.

Who stores combustibles on a stove? A cutting board? Come on.


I leave crap on my stove all the time. Plastic bags, paper, all kinds of shiat. And yeah, it's that kind of stove.

I don't leave things there when I'm using the thing, but when it's off? Sure. It's a flat surface of which my kitchen has very little. Try to imagine a world where everyone is not you.
 
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