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(MIT Technology Review)   In the event of a war in Ukraine you may want to remove your back up hard drives from the internet   (technologyreview.com) divider line
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2022-01-22 5:20:35 AM  
Cyber gonna party like it's 1999
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Keep all porn on a standalone device to avoid weapons of ass destruction.
 
2022-01-22 5:58:55 AM  
My backup hard drives (two of them) are sitting about a foot away from me in a desk drawer.  The only way they're going to get compromised is a house fire.
 
2022-01-22 7:32:35 AM  

The Weekend Baker: My backup hard drives (two of them) are sitting about a foot away from me in a desk drawer.  The only way they're going to get compromised is a house fire.


Username is....ominous.
 
2022-01-22 7:49:04 AM  
What idiot connects their back up drive to the internet?
 
2022-01-22 8:10:54 AM  

Boudyro: What idiot connects their back up drive to the internet?


You've just left the hard drives you've purchased in their original plastic packages, I see. I'll bet your drives last a long time.
 
2022-01-22 8:25:55 AM  

Boudyro: What idiot connects their back up drive to the internet?


Cloud backup systems? (Dropbox, et al.)
 
2022-01-22 8:27:36 AM  

Boudyro: What idiot connects their back up drive to the internet?


Or worse, their NAS (Network Attached Storage) with all their files:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/qnap-warns-of-ransomware-targeting-internet-exposed-nas-devices/

https://kb.synology.com/en-ca/DSM/tutorial/Quick_Start_External_Access
 
2022-01-22 8:36:49 AM  
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I'm pretty sure the problem is that they don't care about national borders.
 
2022-01-22 9:17:56 AM  

Thats My Name too!: Boudyro: What idiot connects their back up drive to the internet?

Cloud backup systems? (Dropbox, et al.)


If your only back up is on someone else's computer you are doing it wrong.

At least one copy should be kept on a separate drive that's only connected to a computer when you do the back up.
 
2022-01-22 10:34:32 AM  
Eh, if I lose my backup drive I don't lose much.

MKV rips of some movies I have on Blu-ray, a few vacation photos (vacations I don't have many pics of because I was there *gasp*), my resume that I need to update anyway...

/Still do the occasional half assed backup anyway to a USB drive.  I'll just leave it unplugged now.
 
2022-01-22 10:36:16 AM  
In the good old days. we just worried about nuclear fallout landing on everybody.
 
2022-01-22 11:34:38 AM  
Now if they hit the crypto blockchain...hm...
 
2022-01-22 11:38:01 AM  

jokerscrowbar: Cyber gonna party like it's 1999
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Keep all porn on a standalone device to avoid weapons of ass destruction.


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I dunno, some of it's got a funky beat. http://evolution-control.com/sounds/DJ%20Pantshead/Weapons%20of%20Ass%20Destruction/
 
2022-01-22 11:51:35 AM  
Sanctions against Russia should include a prohibition against any country routing internet traffic to them. And if some country does not comply they should be cut off too. Having the Russians on the general internet has no value for anyone else anyway.
 
2022-01-22 1:01:00 PM  
All my data is local, I don't use cloud services, I host my own services on my own servers, and they're different OS's too. As long as I still got electricity we'll be fine over here.
 
2022-01-22 1:59:07 PM  

FrostbiteFallsMN: Boudyro: What idiot connects their back up drive to the internet?

Or worse, their NAS (Network Attached Storage) with all their files:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/qnap-warns-of-ransomware-targeting-internet-exposed-nas-devices/

https://kb.synology.com/en-ca/DSM/tutorial/Quick_Start_External_Access


I saw that option in the Synology setup. That was a quick 'Nope, nope, never'
 
2022-01-22 2:33:35 PM  
RAID is not a backup
The Cloud is not a backup

Make backups on physical drives, that you own, which reside in different addresses from your main data storage.

Have at least three copies of important data if you can (including your main data storage)

Update at least one of them daily, update all of them at least weekly.
 
2022-01-22 4:22:58 PM  
Wait, is cyber a noun?  When did cyber become a noun?

The first sentence under the headline talks about tanks and soldiers caring about national borders, but that cyber doesn't.  Sure sounds scary, but motherfarking MIT doesn't know how to use adjectives anymore.
 
2022-01-22 7:03:44 PM  
One 4TB drive in use, the other is in the fire safe, in a smaller fire safe.  I don't generate all that much data. and my stash is barely 10GB of data, and is easily redownloaded off the internet if I somehow loose what's on my laptop, and both backup drives.
 
2022-01-22 7:22:05 PM  

dready zim: RAID is not a backup
The Cloud is not a backup

Make backups on physical drives, that you own, which reside in different addresses from your main data storage.

Have at least three copies of important data if you can (including your main data storage)

Update at least one of them daily, update all of them at least weekly.


This is advice for business not individuals right?  If individual, I gotta admit you are either up to nefarious activity, should go to tech rehab, or maybe see a therapist.
 
2022-01-22 8:29:13 PM  
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2022-01-22 11:48:57 PM  

JudgeReinhold: dready zim: RAID is not a backup
The Cloud is not a backup

Make backups on physical drives, that you own, which reside in different addresses from your main data storage.

Have at least three copies of important data if you can (including your main data storage)

Update at least one of them daily, update all of them at least weekly.

This is advice for business not individuals right?  If individual, I gotta admit you are either up to nefarious activity, should go to tech rehab, or maybe see a therapist.


Depends on how and how much you home compute.  If you're doing ANYTHING that you don't want to lose (hobby work, research/term papers, photos of your kids/pets, home business records, etc.) then yes, 3 backups, with at least one off site backup.  Daily and weekly on site backups, monthly swap with off site set (think safe deposit box, desk drawer at work, parent's house, etc.)

Again, if you are creating high value, I can't lose this data type stuff, then you want to be very aggressive about your backup routines.  If you use your computer to only surf the net and play solitaire, then backups won't be nearly the same priority.

/Not so CSB -- I dutifully made encrypted backups (two sets) of my computer on a regular basis.  Said computer offers to remember the password to the backup disks.  "Sure!" sez  I, saves me some time and key stokes.  Two plus years later, said computer suddenly dies.  Darn good thing I made a backup the day before.  Go out and replace the computer, and start the recovery process.  Password for the backup set?  What was it??   Two years later, I could remember the general pass phrase, but not the specific sequence.

After trying several thousand (literally built a spreadsheet) possibilities, I gave up and restored from an old backup disk (from when I bought the new backup disks.)  Between the old backup and paper records, I recreated most of what I absolutely needed.  However, I lost 2 years of photography.  Still kick myself for that.
 
2022-01-23 11:00:12 AM  
Thats My Name too!:

Been there.  Replaced a bosd computer only to find that someone had dropped the back up hard enough to wreck the disc.  Managed to scrape most things back together from other drives but lost thousands of pictures.  Surprising how often an average snapshot that was unloved for years suddenly becomes the only picture of a loved one.  Wish I still had pics of my Prelude for example.  This thumbnail is the only survivor.
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2022-01-23 11:17:03 AM  

webron: Wait, is cyber a noun?  When did cyber become a noun?

The first sentence under the headline talks about tanks and soldiers caring about national borders, but that cyber doesn't.  Sure sounds scary, but motherfarking MIT doesn't know how to use adjectives anymore.


It's a noun, adjective and verb depending on use.

Our cyberattacks and cyber plots were awsesome we cybered the Fark out of them.
 
2022-01-23 5:28:42 PM  

jokerscrowbar: webron: Wait, is cyber a noun?  When did cyber become a noun?

The first sentence under the headline talks about tanks and soldiers caring about national borders, but that cyber doesn't.  Sure sounds scary, but motherfarking MIT doesn't know how to use adjectives anymore.

It's a noun, adjective and verb depending on use.

Our cyberattacks and cyber plots were awsesome we cybered the Fark out of them.


We have the most cyber cyber that ever cybered.
 
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