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(Phys Org2)   Interviews with those who buy and use rhinoceros horns reveals that the best way to save wild rhinos is to eliminate the rich old men who buy and use rhinoceros horns   (phys.org) divider line
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2022-01-21 2:40:56 PM  
The need for a legal hunting season on rhino horn users is clear.
 
2022-01-21 3:16:26 PM  
They think it makes their tiny dicks hard.
 
2022-01-21 3:58:26 PM  
Interesting methodology:

because rhino horn is so expensive, rhino horn consumers are mostly senior and very wealthy individuals who are notoriously averse to investigations of their illegal behaviours.
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To interview a large number of rhino horn consumers, we hired a team of research assistants with a winning sense of humour, colourful life experience, and true grit. With a rented Porsche and a Rolex watch borrowed from friends, we reached out to various networks and clubs where wealthy consumers often gather, such as golf and tennis clubs, and established a network of key informants who helped introduce us to potential respondents.
 
2022-01-21 4:00:04 PM  
Our study shows that consumers do not want captive-bred rhinos who are perceived as "farmed", like cattle or horses. They prefer, and are willing, to pay more for horns from rhinos living in the wild or semi-wild environments

Douchebags Deluxe on Ice.
 
2022-01-21 4:02:23 PM  
At $400,000 per kg, there's no way to farm rhinos?
 
2022-01-21 4:06:18 PM  
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2022-01-21 4:11:13 PM  
Supply free Viagra and Cialis to every idiot that would otherwise take rhino horn.
 
2022-01-21 4:21:44 PM  

stuhayes2010: At $400,000 per kg, there's no way to farm rhinos?


There is, but these limp dick motherfarkers want "free range" rhino horn.
 
2022-01-21 4:45:20 PM  
Are they buying the horns whole? Because if they're buying them already ground up why not just give them baking soda and sawdust? It's not like they'd notice the difference anyway.
 
2022-01-21 4:55:12 PM  
The wildlife foundation needs to get a toenail and hair drive.  Send in all your keratin, and they grind it up, maybe bleach it, and let the horn buyers snort that.  Pass it off as horn, it is the same material, so they won't know the difference.  Also capture the poachers alive and make the confirmed horn buyers harvest and consume the poacher horn.  And stream it on YouTube.  With names.  In 4k.  Make sure all the families know that guy is harvesting and eating human horn because they can't get it up normally.

Asking people nicely to not kill rhinos has failed.  We gave it a good try team!  But it is now time for ultra fear and suffering.
 
2022-01-21 4:55:38 PM  
Much like ivermectin here, the only cure for true stupidity is death.
 
2022-01-21 5:05:45 PM  
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2022-01-21 5:06:41 PM  
Rhino poachers and those that keep them in business deserve a special hell.

Most preserves have a 100-square-mile per underpaid ranger ratio, whereas the poachers come in with a convoy of 4-wheel drive vehicles and automatic weapons. They shoot the rhino until it falls over, then use gas powered cutoff saws to cut the entire nose off of the rhino WHILE IT'S STILL ALIVE! then throw the snout in the truck and bolt before the rangers even have their boots on.

That, and wire snares are about as sick as it gets. At least wire snares are about food, rather than a limp dick.
 
2022-01-21 5:20:13 PM  

maxheck: Rhino poachers and those that keep them in business deserve a special hell.

Most preserves have a 100-square-mile per underpaid ranger ratio, whereas the poachers come in with a convoy of 4-wheel drive vehicles and automatic weapons. They shoot the rhino until it falls over, then use gas powered cutoff saws to cut the entire nose off of the rhino WHILE IT'S STILL ALIVE! then throw the snout in the truck and bolt before the rangers even have their boots on.

That, and wire snares are about as sick as it gets. At least wire snares are about food, rather than a limp dick.


The people who hunt them are actively trying to drive the species to extinction for the coveted "I did that, no one else can do that ever" spot in history.   The person who kills the last rhino isn't looking to save or conserve anything but their own infamy.
 
2022-01-21 5:23:48 PM  

tdyak: maxheck: Rhino poachers and those that keep them in business deserve a special hell.

Most preserves have a 100-square-mile per underpaid ranger ratio, whereas the poachers come in with a convoy of 4-wheel drive vehicles and automatic weapons. They shoot the rhino until it falls over, then use gas powered cutoff saws to cut the entire nose off of the rhino WHILE IT'S STILL ALIVE! then throw the snout in the truck and bolt before the rangers even have their boots on.

That, and wire snares are about as sick as it gets. At least wire snares are about food, rather than a limp dick.

The people who hunt them are actively trying to drive the species to extinction for the coveted "I did that, no one else can do that ever" spot in history.   The person who kills the last rhino isn't looking to save or conserve anything but their own infamy.


Doubt it. I think it's more an easy few thousand dollars in the third world. These people aren't thinking of a place in history, they're thinking of a paycheck.
 
2022-01-21 5:25:10 PM  
We need to inject rhinos with a hormone that causes dick-shriveling in Asian men.
 
2022-01-21 5:28:14 PM  
That's what pisses me off. The Chinese get away with this shiat by imagining it increases their virility, but calling them on it is "racist" or "culturally insensitive". Like the goddamn Japanese killing sharks for only their fins.
 
2022-01-21 5:29:35 PM  
Eliminating rich men is also the way to stop global warming.
 
2022-01-21 5:30:12 PM  

maxheck: tdyak: maxheck: Rhino poachers and those that keep them in business deserve a special hell.

Most preserves have a 100-square-mile per underpaid ranger ratio, whereas the poachers come in with a convoy of 4-wheel drive vehicles and automatic weapons. They shoot the rhino until it falls over, then use gas powered cutoff saws to cut the entire nose off of the rhino WHILE IT'S STILL ALIVE! then throw the snout in the truck and bolt before the rangers even have their boots on.

That, and wire snares are about as sick as it gets. At least wire snares are about food, rather than a limp dick.

The people who hunt them are actively trying to drive the species to extinction for the coveted "I did that, no one else can do that ever" spot in history.   The person who kills the last rhino isn't looking to save or conserve anything but their own infamy.

Doubt it. I think it's more an easy few thousand dollars in the third world. These people aren't thinking of a place in history, they're thinking of a paycheck.


Average annual income in Nepal is 829$ USD per the google. Mind you, that goes a lot further there, but if some guy in Hong Kong wants to pay you $5000...
 
2022-01-21 5:56:11 PM  
Sure the old rich guys want "Wild" rhino. Does China have any "truth in advertising" laws? If not, why not farm them and LIE about them being wild? You could even work out a deal with a wildlife park. They humanely harvest the real wild rhinos horns and sell them to the farmer who shows them off before selling farmed powder.

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2022-01-21 5:57:22 PM  

Jake Havechek: That's what pisses me off. The Chinese get away with this shiat by imagining it increases their virility, but calling them on it is "racist" or "culturally insensitive". Like the goddamn Japanese killing sharks for only their fins.


What pisses you off is your inability to berate the Chinese, and not the act itself? That's what pisses you off?
 
2022-01-21 6:03:01 PM  

Irisclara: Sure the old rich guys want "Wild" rhino. Does China have any "truth in advertising" laws? If not, why not farm them and LIE about them being wild? You could even work out a deal with a wildlife park. They humanely harvest the real wild rhinos horns and sell them to the farmer who shows them off before selling farmed powder.

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There are people working on making synthetic rhino horn that's indistinguishable from the natural stuff.
 
2022-01-21 6:05:07 PM  

Irisclara: Sure the old rich guys want "Wild" rhino. Does China have any "truth in advertising" laws? If not, why not farm them and LIE about them being wild? You could even work out a deal with a wildlife park. They humanely harvest the real wild rhinos horns and sell them to the farmer who shows them off before selling farmed powder.

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Maybe because the poachers have strong moral values and would never think of defrauding their customers like that?
 
2022-01-21 6:10:51 PM  
Who knew supply-side management was so hard?
 
2022-01-21 6:48:33 PM  

maxheck: tdyak: maxheck: Rhino poachers and those that keep them in business deserve a special hell.

Most preserves have a 100-square-mile per underpaid ranger ratio, whereas the poachers come in with a convoy of 4-wheel drive vehicles and automatic weapons. They shoot the rhino until it falls over, then use gas powered cutoff saws to cut the entire nose off of the rhino WHILE IT'S STILL ALIVE! then throw the snout in the truck and bolt before the rangers even have their boots on.

That, and wire snares are about as sick as it gets. At least wire snares are about food, rather than a limp dick.

The people who hunt them are actively trying to drive the species to extinction for the coveted "I did that, no one else can do that ever" spot in history.   The person who kills the last rhino isn't looking to save or conserve anything but their own infamy.

Doubt it. I think it's more an easy few thousand dollars in the third world. These people aren't thinking of a place in history, they're thinking of a paycheck.


So, if you are working to feed your family, it is OK to do whatever it takes for a paycheck.  Even drive rhinos extinct.  Got it.

We have to have ZERO Tolerance on this.  Humans are not endangered.  The world has asked nicely for poaching rhinos to stop.  IF people won't after being asked nicely, it is time for ultra fear and terror.  make the poachers eat each other alive.

Hell, go to the rich chinese, have the UN confiscate the money (if china has a problem with that, nuke them), and then distribute the chinese money to the potential poachers.  Money problem solved.
 
2022-01-21 6:49:38 PM  
Alternate idea, tattoo rhino horns with "HA HA YOU ARE A LIMP DICKED WUSS WHO CAN'T PLEASE HIS WIFE!"
 
2022-01-21 6:55:28 PM  
Stop seizing rhino horn from the traffickers. Dust it with anthrax spores and give it back.
 
2022-01-21 6:55:29 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: maxheck: tdyak: maxheck: Rhino poachers and those that keep them in business deserve a special hell.

Most preserves have a 100-square-mile per underpaid ranger ratio, whereas the poachers come in with a convoy of 4-wheel drive vehicles and automatic weapons. They shoot the rhino until it falls over, then use gas powered cutoff saws to cut the entire nose off of the rhino WHILE IT'S STILL ALIVE! then throw the snout in the truck and bolt before the rangers even have their boots on.

That, and wire snares are about as sick as it gets. At least wire snares are about food, rather than a limp dick.

The people who hunt them are actively trying to drive the species to extinction for the coveted "I did that, no one else can do that ever" spot in history.   The person who kills the last rhino isn't looking to save or conserve anything but their own infamy.

Doubt it. I think it's more an easy few thousand dollars in the third world. These people aren't thinking of a place in history, they're thinking of a paycheck.

So, if you are working to feed your family, it is OK to do whatever it takes for a paycheck.  Even drive rhinos extinct.  Got it.

We have to have ZERO Tolerance on this.  Humans are not endangered.  The world has asked nicely for poaching rhinos to stop.  IF people won't after being asked nicely, it is time for ultra fear and terror.  make the poachers eat each other alive.

Hell, go to the rich chinese, have the UN confiscate the money (if china has a problem with that, nuke them), and then distribute the chinese money to the potential poachers.  Money problem solved.


I didn't say it was ok, I pointed out why it happens. An earlier poster intimated that people were doing it for glory, I pointed out that it was more likely for a payday.

Like a lot of criminal activity, there's a farkton of money to be made, and in the case of poaching, the rangers who police the park are making government wages and armed with bolt-action rifles, but the poachers have AK-47's. Nepal had a 20+ year civil war, so there's plenty of military-grade weapons floating around, and the same applies to pretty much anywhere in Africa.
 
2022-01-21 6:55:47 PM  
It's just keratin, isn't it? So grind up your fingernails and snort that, you rich old bastards, or however it is you ingest your boner cure. Or get a prescription for Viagra like a normal old person.
 
2022-01-21 7:25:21 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Stop seizing rhino horn from the traffickers. Dust it with anthrax spores and give it back.


That's awful.

Use fentanyl instead.
 
2022-01-21 7:25:28 PM  

Tranquil Hegemony: It's just keratin, isn't it? So grind up your fingernails and snort that, you rich old bastards, or however it is you ingest your boner cure. Or get a prescription for Viagra like a normal old person.


I bite my nails... I must be a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus!
 
2022-01-21 8:07:40 PM  

Sasquach: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Stop seizing rhino horn from the traffickers. Dust it with anthrax spores and give it back.

That's awful.

Use fentanyl instead.


Too quick. You want as many users as possible to get exposed. After the first 2-3 overdose deaths, people might get wise. Anthrax can take up to 2 months to kill. Plenty of time to spread the love.
 
2022-01-21 8:19:58 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Stop seizing rhino horn from the traffickers. Dust it with anthrax spores and give it back.


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2022-01-21 9:00:54 PM  
There is or was a market for Rhino horn in one of the smaller countries on the Arabian peninsula on the side closest to Africa, they use or used the horn to make sheaths/scabbards for their traditional daggers  that were given to a young man when he came of age.

I am not 100% sure if they still use Rhino horn for this was but it is what they traditionally used and even if they still do it would be very small portion of the market and the Chinese may have priced them out of the market.
 
2022-01-21 9:31:44 PM  

Thosw: stuhayes2010: At $400,000 per kg, there's no way to farm rhinos?

There is, but these limp dick motherfarkers want "free range" rhino horn.


And they can't just be lied to?
 
2022-01-21 9:45:42 PM  
Flood the market with harvested horns and none of the rich will be able to tell what's a harmlessly trimmed off horn from otherwise (short of trying to buy rhino skulls I guess). It should lower demand from the assholes to some extent.

Use the money to hire more rangers and vets to keep sanctuaries running.

Every sanctuary is sitting on a gold mine while barely making ends meet. It's untenable.

Is my proposal perfect? No. But the status quo isn't working, and it's clear that sufficient funding to protect things hasn't been happening. Opening up horn sales requires a finger snap.
 
2022-01-21 10:01:28 PM  

maxheck: Jake Havechek: That's what pisses me off. The Chinese get away with this shiat by imagining it increases their virility, but calling them on it is "racist" or "culturally insensitive". Like the goddamn Japanese killing sharks for only their fins.

What pisses you off is your inability to berate the Chinese, and not the act itself? That's what pisses you off?


No, it's tiptoeing around the issue by calling it things like "traditional medicine"
 
2022-01-21 10:30:50 PM  
I'm up for it.
 
2022-01-21 10:46:29 PM  
So why don't we just kill them?
 
2022-01-21 10:52:20 PM  
Someday a giant meteor is going to destroy the Earth. When / if that happens I will have a bit of peace knowing that at least we farking deserve it for the horrific way we have managed this pale blue speck in the vastness of space.
 
2022-01-22 12:55:55 PM  
Agreed, Prohibition has worked so well in the past that we should definitely try it again.
 
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