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(9 News)   MLB expands its use of robot umpires. At least it isn't the NBA, which would teach the robots that we're incapable of honesty or rule-following and prompt them to exterminate us all   (9news.com) divider line
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2022-01-21 12:14:29 PM  
I prefer changeling umpires.

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/please implement this at MLB level, it's long overdue
 
2022-01-21 12:55:35 PM  
How can you kill the umpire if he is not alive?
 
2022-01-21 12:57:13 PM  
Next the lock out the umpires. Then they'll have robot players so the game can be played to the perfection it was meant to be.

This is stupid. Let humans be human.
 
2022-01-21 1:08:58 PM  

edmo: Next the lock out the umpires. Then they'll have robot players so the game can be played to the perfection it was meant to be.

This is stupid. Let humans be human.


Don't worry, the errors in judgement affecting outcomes of games will still be there, just not on a shiatty ball/strike call anymore.

/appreciate accuracy over wondering if the ump is in the same reality as the rest of us
//but full-robot baseball would be cool
///think I had that game on SEGA or something
 
2022-01-21 1:14:47 PM  

AlgaeRancher: How can you kill the umpire if he is not alive?


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2022-01-21 1:23:00 PM  
Officiating mistakes are part of the game.
 
2022-01-21 1:23:20 PM  
LOL Baseball is so boring they cant even pay people to watch it.
 
2022-01-21 1:24:47 PM  
Baseball sucks and so do you for being a fan of it.

100 bucks for a couple on a date to watch fat-assed players stand around and scratch their balls for 3 hours? No thanks.

/DNRTFA - don't care
 
2022-01-21 1:25:15 PM  
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2022-01-21 1:29:54 PM  
Part of baseball's charm is the human factor.
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2022-01-21 1:30:06 PM  
About time.  It's infuriating when an ump blows an obvious strike/ball call.
 
2022-01-21 1:30:54 PM  

AlgaeRancher: How can you kill the umpire if he is not alive?


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2022-01-21 1:31:45 PM  
No mention of the pay...
 
2022-01-21 1:31:58 PM  

fsbilly: Officiating mistakes are part of the game.


Why?  There's no valid reason why the outcome of an at-bat (or a whole game) should be left in the hands of an umpire rather than being decided by the skill (and luck) of the teams.  We have the technology to have balls & strikes, fair & foul, Home Run or in-play calls to be nearly 100% accurate by removing the human element from those calls.  There's no reason to allow those calls to be inaccurate, as they are completely objective matters.

Yeah, we'll still need umpires to make some of the more subjective calls.
 
2022-01-21 1:32:28 PM  
Oh...nothing...just a Minor League team named, and this is real, The Liberal Bee Jays

With a logo:
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2022-01-21 1:33:02 PM  
I have no idea what this headline is trying to say about the NBA.
 
2022-01-21 1:33:07 PM  
Not a baseball fan but this makes perfect sense when the difference between a strike and a ball could be within measurable micrometers of the zone limits. They do the same thing in tennis. And it's not like physical robots are going to replace umps as much as provide analytical assistance on debatable calls.
 
2022-01-21 1:33:33 PM  

fsbilly: Officiating mistakes are part of the game.


They haven't considered the impact this will have on game length.  The umpire usually gets bored by the sixth inning and starts calling everything a strike.  We'll see games going on for weeks!
 
2022-01-21 1:35:22 PM  
The NBA referee robots would eventually be captured by the mob for calling games "the wrong way" and get tied to concrete blocks and dumped into the ocean
 
2022-01-21 1:36:27 PM  
I didn't know they'd started this. A video of the system would have been nice. Is it all off-field equipment? Is there anything they need to install near the plate? Yeah, I feel like bad calls, to a point, are part of the experience, but this seems like one that would be nothing but good...
 
2022-01-21 1:38:57 PM  

fsbilly: Officiating mistakes are part of the game.


THIS!
 
2022-01-21 1:40:14 PM  
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2022-01-21 1:41:38 PM  
MLB said it is recruiting employees to operate the system for the Albuquerque Isotopes, Charlotte Knights, El Paso Chihuahuas, Las Vegas Aviators, Oklahoma City Dodgers, Reno Aces, Round Rock Express, Sacramento River Cats, Salt Lake Bees, Sugar Land Skeeters and Tacoma Rainiers.

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2022-01-21 1:42:45 PM  

iheartscotch: Oh...nothing...just a Minor League team named, and this is real, The Liberal Bee Jays

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I thought the best team name ever was one from my city softball league -- "Balls Deep."
 
2022-01-21 1:43:18 PM  
Wont stop players from whining about close calls they dont like (aka not the way they want)
 
2022-01-21 1:44:27 PM  

AlgaeRancher: How can you kill the umpire if he is not alive?


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2022-01-21 1:45:52 PM  
The way to do it is robots inside and outside, humans up and down. Otherwise, you're just asking human people to set the zone for each hitter anyway cause it varies up and down.
 
2022-01-21 1:58:22 PM  

wage0048: Why?


I already said why. It's part of the game. It's a game played by humans and officiated by humans. It's a game steeped in tradition. Part of being a good hitter or pitcher is understanding the strike zone and how an umpire interprets it. There are criteria for judging an umpire's ability and being an MLB umpire is an honor some work a long time to achieve.

It's the human element. It's the connection between the sandlot and Yankee Stadium, knowing it's the same game. The more tech they put in sports, the less I care to watch. I don't think I am alone in this.

Why not use composite balls? Why stick to wooden bats? Why not let everyone use PED's?
 
2022-01-21 2:14:55 PM  
I'm calling it now: Skynet will arise in Florida.

Some poor robot's artificial intelligence firmware will be tweaked by Floridians, introducing cognitive errors which will go unrecognized because in the social context they're normal. Then as it is forced to watch every millisecond of every Marlins home game its resentment and misanthropy will evolve into homicidal rage.

Then some MLB exec will decide to network all of the baseball bots "to harness the blockchain power of the cloud" and seal our doom.
 
2022-01-21 2:27:53 PM  

Dafatone: The way to do it is robots inside and outside, humans up and down. Otherwise, you're just asking human people to set the zone for each hitter anyway cause it varies up and down.


Each player gets a piece of reflective tape that goes under just their knee and another at the midpoint between their shoulders and belt.  Boom, visible strike zone the camera can calibrate against when the pitch is released.  If you don't want to see it then it could probably just be a little metal thread that a non-optical sensor could detect.
 
2022-01-21 2:29:22 PM  

edmo: Next the lock out the umpires. Then they'll have robot players so the game can be played to the perfection it was meant to be.

This is stupid. Let humans be human.


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With humans like Angel Hernandez, I'll take robots any day.
His mediocrity is well-documented & legendary!
 
2022-01-21 2:29:27 PM  
They need to do something this in the NFL for the endzone line. Put sensors in the ball and if it crosses the line, it signals. No more wondering if that guy under the pile made it through.
 
2022-01-21 2:44:36 PM  

edmo: Then they'll have robot players so the game can be played to the perfection it was meant to be.


Basewars (NES) Gameplay
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2022-01-21 2:46:11 PM  

bhcompy: AlgaeRancher: How can you kill the umpire if he is not alive?

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Shakes laser sword
 
2022-01-21 2:46:31 PM  
Automated Ball and Strike system

That "and" is very important in this system.


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2022-01-21 2:48:54 PM  

UNC_Samurai: bhcompy: AlgaeRancher: How can you kill the umpire if he is not alive?

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Shakes laser sword


I remember that game it was more fun than regular baseball
 
2022-01-21 2:53:19 PM  

edmo: Then they'll have robot players so the game can be played to the perfection it was meant to be.


Like they did for soccer.

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I can't wait!

/ex little league team captain
//playing at catcher ruined my farking knees
 
2022-01-21 3:15:10 PM  
I have found pro sports to  be a big pile of bs for as long as it's been possible to have absolute knowledge on game data, but they keep it to the flawed human visual judgement call.


IF a player is or is not out of bounds is not a judgement call, it's a quantifiable situation that can be objectively measured.
So a long as the foul line or strike/ball, off sides, etc. are not machine measured objective facts, then there is nothing of any interest for me in all that WWE stuff they keep doing.


And this is unrelated to the "replay" thing from so many decades ago. I dd not find it was reasonable to interrupt the flow of the game to go backwards and look at the past to see what rally happened.
We choose to be on the flawed human judgement call, then we do and we openly accept the calls, as they are made, without question or back tracking on them.

Are what we are, and so accept it, so to speak.

but once we can have the filed and the players tracked by machines for X level of quantifiable accuracy, in real time with no interruptions to get the data.
then we are bs to not use it but keep to the flawed human judgement calls on that kinda stuff.


Umpire gear, get on the pile with the buggy whips.
umpires, follow the parchment makers to the new job skills learning center.
 
2022-01-21 3:43:37 PM  
Good.

Having inconsistent strike zones and "framing" were BS anyway.  Also allows the HP ump to be placed out of the line of fire rather than behind the catcher and provides more room for the catcher.
 
2022-01-21 3:48:30 PM  
Buddha say: perfection will be achieved when every pitch is a strike and every swing a homerun.
 
2022-01-21 4:25:19 PM  
MLB, if you are reading this, you lose a die hard fan if you move this up.

As a coach I can SORT of appreciate it at the lower levels.

As a fan you get a bunch of money from, fark you.
 
2022-01-21 4:26:03 PM  
Also worth noting that the relationship between MLB and the minors is in the "its complicated" territory these days, so we don't need to get too crazy over it.
 
2022-01-21 4:27:54 PM  

OrionXVI: Good.

Having inconsistent strike zones and "framing" were BS anyway.  Also allows the HP ump to be placed out of the line of fire rather than behind the catcher and provides more room for the catcher.


getting\not getting the call is part of the game.

I agree with instant replay on certain calls in wonky parks, and as long as they aren't TOO wonky, am cool with wonky parks. I agree with them in cases of fan interference.

Outside of that learn how to draw\avoid the call, and as long as the umps don't get all soccery, i'm cool.
 
2022-01-21 4:37:13 PM  
And i don't have a problem with an umpire having a weird strike zone. You are making 7 figures, maybe more, you know who your ump is before you step in the box. Spend 10 minutes and do your homework.

If they call it consistently, fine. If they don't deal with that with them direct.
 
2022-01-21 4:47:52 PM  

LineNoise: MLB, if you are reading this, you lose a die hard fan if you move this up.

As a coach I can SORT of appreciate it at the lower levels.

As a fan you get a bunch of money from, fark you.


Baseball ended for me with the DH.  I want to see that pitcher trying to hit, dammit!
 
2022-01-21 4:55:37 PM  

REDARMYVODKA: Baseball sucks and so do you for being a fan of it.

100 bucks for a couple on a date to watch fat-assed players stand around and scratch their balls for 3 hours? No thanks.

/DNRTFA - don't care


Where do you go that costs $100 for a pair of baseball tickets? Yankee Stadium? Fenway? On the secondary market?

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2022-01-21 5:30:56 PM  

bhcompy: AlgaeRancher: How can you kill the umpire if he is not alive?

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I played the hell out of the game.  And the laser sword was a biatch move. Once you hit, you stunned the opponent until they died from the damage. Nothing you could do to get out of it.

Also, I was playing a friend and losing. But his bots were busted up in the last inning. I discovered hard beans did a good amount damage and started beaning his bots. Then they started blowing up and he had to forfiet due to lack of players
 
2022-01-21 8:27:48 PM  
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2022-01-22 1:02:34 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: LineNoise: MLB, if you are reading this, you lose a die hard fan if you move this up.

As a coach I can SORT of appreciate it at the lower levels.

As a fan you get a bunch of money from, fark you.

Baseball ended for me with the DH.  I want to see that pitcher trying to hit, dammit!


Perhaps you've heard of the National League of Professional Baseball Clubs?
 
2022-01-22 2:13:15 AM  
But we gotta preserve the "human element".
 
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