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(SFGate)   And here subby laughed at the guy worried about 30-50 feral hogs   (sfgate.com) divider line
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2022-01-21 3:23:13 AM  
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2022-01-21 3:28:15 AM  
Bacon?
 
2022-01-21 3:53:54 AM  
This will be interesting to see what happens. California has some experience eradicating wild hog infestations, but those were generally on islands where the spread could be limited. More interesting will be to see if the larger predators in the state will be able to manage them at all. We have a variety of native bear and large cat populations, and one of the west coast's only significant native wolf populations.

That said, I think the difficulty in dealing with hogs out here will largely depend on where they settle. Technically most of the state already has a hog presence, but you don't see the large groups of them around populated areas.
 
2022-01-21 4:12:22 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?


Plenty!
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2022-01-21 4:37:44 AM  
30-50 feral hogs takes on whole different connotations in the furry community.
 
2022-01-21 4:39:37 AM  
Better to eat crow on this than those grizzly bear attacks in school that Betsy cautioned us about, Subby.
 
2022-01-21 4:41:51 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?


Nope. Apparently feral hog tastes foul.
 
2022-01-21 4:45:49 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?


Feral hogs taste like crap from everyone who tried that apparently
 
2022-01-21 4:51:48 AM  
I know it's been an issue for a little bit in San Jose.
 
2022-01-21 4:54:05 AM  
They have no natural predators. It's time to bring grizzlies back to California. We should release a few thousand grizzlies randomly throughout the state and that should fix things.
 
2022-01-21 5:04:22 AM  
I admit I was one of the people who mocked the tweet as it sounded ridiculous at face value. I then listened to an interview of the guy who originally tweeted on one of my favorite podcasts, Reply All. In context, his argument was quite cogent.

https://gimletmedia.com/amp/shows/reply-all/n8hw3d
 
2022-01-21 5:07:48 AM  
FTFA:
"...the ability to manage the population through science-based management practices..."

I guess anyone who opposes giving people the legal right to open fire on the wild hogs anywhere in California, including residential areas, is going to be labeled "anti-science".  

What a "science-based management" tool looks like...
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2022-01-21 5:13:49 AM  

Tom-Servo: FTFA:
"...the ability to manage the population through science-based management practices..."

I guess anyone who opposes giving people the legal right to open fire on the wild hogs anywhere in California, including residential areas, is going to be labeled "anti-science".  

What a "science-based management" tool looks like...
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Science disagrees with your supposition.
 
2022-01-21 5:14:38 AM  

MattytheMouse: 30-50 feral hogs takes on whole different connotations in the furry community.


Yeah, I've met furrys...
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Lotta UFIA...
Didn't know till I knew.
 
2022-01-21 5:16:35 AM  

Redh8t: MattytheMouse: 30-50 feral hogs takes on whole different connotations in the furry community.

Yeah, I've met furrys...
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Lotta UFIA...
Didn't know till I knew.


But did you have fun, at least?
 
2022-01-21 5:16:55 AM  

Tom-Servo: FTFA:
"...the ability to manage the population through science-based management practices..."

I guess anyone who opposes giving people the legal right to open fire on the wild hogs anywhere in California, including residential areas, is going to be labeled "anti-science".  

What a "science-based management" tool looks like...
[media.nextechclassifieds.com image 640x360]


Marlin 45/70?
 
2022-01-21 5:19:42 AM  
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2022-01-21 5:20:03 AM  
"Pigs don't have sweat glands so they need water every day," Timothy Gall of Wild Pig Removal Inc. told KTVU.

Huh? No make sense.  I save and take in very little water with my sweat glands.
 
2022-01-21 5:24:48 AM  

MattytheMouse: Redh8t: MattytheMouse: 30-50 feral hogs takes on whole different connotations in the furry community.

Yeah, I've met furrys...
[Fark user image image 425x239]

Lotta UFIA...
Didn't know till I knew.

But did you have fun, at least?


Are you kidding?
Furries are f*ckin awesome fun!
 
2022-01-21 5:28:01 AM  
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2022-01-21 5:29:22 AM  

Birnone: They have no natural predators. It's time to bring grizzlies back to California. We should release a few thousand grizzlies randomly throughout the state and that should fix things.


I see a potential problem with this.
 
2022-01-21 5:41:00 AM  
How dare they destroy nice lawns in California!
 
2022-01-21 5:41:43 AM  

Spartapuss: Birnone: They have no natural predators. It's time to bring grizzlies back to California. We should release a few thousand grizzlies randomly throughout the state and that should fix things.

I see a potential problem with this.


Don't worry, we have gorillas ready to take out the bears after they deal with our hog problem.
 
2022-01-21 5:52:05 AM  
TFA says it would ban the release of pigs into the wild.

How is that not already illegal? In California of all places?
 
2022-01-21 6:28:23 AM  

thecactusman17: This will be interesting to see what happens. California has some experience eradicating wild hog infestations, but those were generally on islands where the spread could be limited. More interesting will be to see if the larger predators in the state will be able to manage them at all. We have a variety of native bear and large cat populations, and one of the west coast's only significant native wolf populations.

That said, I think the difficulty in dealing with hogs out here will largely depend on where they settle. Technically most of the state already has a hog presence, but you don't see the large groups of them around populated areas.


My first thought upon reading there's an excess of FOOD running around was to be happy there is FOOD running around in case the world fails.

Then I read your post about a healthy wolf population, and maybe I didn't read all of the article, but an exploding food resource means their predator population will grow.

In 5 years, the 3 wolves howling at the moon t-shirt will be a warning and not a novelty.
 
2022-01-21 6:28:24 AM  

Tchernobog: TFA says it would ban the release of pigs into the wild.

How is that not already illegal? In California of all places?


How many dumbasses got little baby puglets for pets without thinking about what size they would be in 3 years
 
2022-01-21 6:30:00 AM  

Birnone: They have no natural predators. It's time to bring grizzlies back to California. We should release a few thousand grizzlies randomly throughout the state and that should fix things.


Sounds fine, until the grizzlies figure out that homeless encampments offer easier prey...
 
2022-01-21 6:33:18 AM  

LarrySouth: Birnone: They have no natural predators. It's time to bring grizzlies back to California. We should release a few thousand grizzlies randomly throughout the state and that should fix things.

Sounds fine, until the grizzlies figure out that homeless encampments offer easier prey...


To some, that would not be a drawback
 
2022-01-21 6:34:51 AM  

Tchernobog: TFA says it would ban the release of pigs into the wild.

How is that not already illegal? In California of all places?


It's illegal in South Carolina. It's also illegal to catch a feral hog in a trap and not kill it. Apparently, some people were catching them and taking them home to raise as farm animals. You have to kill them all, including the piglets. I have said it before. Just hunting them isn't going to do much. Trapping the entire sounder then killing them all is the only effective control strategy.
 
2022-01-21 6:39:34 AM  

lifeslammer: Tchernobog: TFA says it would ban the release of pigs into the wild.

How is that not already illegal? In California of all places?

How many dumbasses got little baby puglets for pets without thinking about what size they would be in 3 years


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2022-01-21 6:40:54 AM  

werbito: How dare they destroy nice lawns in California!


Ever heard of crop damage?
 
2022-01-21 6:49:34 AM  
Swine bomb
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2022-01-21 6:49:39 AM  

lifeslammer: Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?

Feral hogs taste like crap from everyone who tried that apparently


cooked 6 of then one season. they were all delicious.
 
2022-01-21 6:52:15 AM  
I think the biggest impediment to dealing with hogs in California is going to be that there is generally not a positive perception of hunting with rifles here. People seeing discount Elmer Fudd wandering around town with his camo and AR-15 are going to be pretty upset especially in the current tense climate surrounding the 3% crowd and 2nd Amendment "activism".
 
2022-01-21 6:52:36 AM  

MythDragon: Swine bomb
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2022-01-21 6:59:27 AM  

lifeslammer: Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?

Feral hogs taste like crap from everyone who tried that apparently


Boar taint.  TL;DR the testosterone in intact males inhibits metabolism of a few chemical substances that accumulate in the meat and make it taste nasty.  It happens in wild and domestic boars, although the latter are usually castrated as piglets.

IIRC there's at least one or two traditional Italian sausage recipes which were conceived specifically to cover it up.
 
2022-01-21 7:00:48 AM  

lifeslammer: Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?

Feral hogs taste like crap from everyone who tried that apparently


I've had good deal hog and venison sausage, but that's there closest I've come to good tasting hog.
 
2022-01-21 7:19:02 AM  
I have often posted about wild animal problems in my area of Japan. Most recently, it has been stray cats, but three months ago it was bears. Over the years it has been serows and monkeys and moles. But last year about this time, it was boars.

Being mostly forest, boars can go almost from Fukushima to Hokkaido without ever breaking canopy. And they do. Every year, the groups seem to get a little bigger. One thing that the hardware stores and farming stores seem to always be selling are the wire panels, I guess they are called cow panels in the states? They are about a meter and a half high and two meters wide. They are a very primitive fencing material that works well to deter boars.

Everything eats everything, and deep down, I hope the boars solve the cat problem so that the bears can solve the boar problem. But somewhere along the line a first grader will become bear chow, so what are you going to do?

More likely, Japanese residents of my area will hit that magical point where they will switch from being super nosy and passive aggressive and will instead start looking the other way as the local farming community solves the problem and has a few barbecues. It won't take long once it starts.

Bah. Wildlife is wonderful, but maybe getting  a little out of hand here and there.
 
2022-01-21 7:28:59 AM  
Read "Termination Shock".
 
2022-01-21 7:38:46 AM  

MythDragon: Swine bomb
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When I read "swine bomb" and California, my mind went here.
 
2022-01-21 8:01:13 AM  

Tom-Servo: FTFA:
"...the ability to manage the population through science-based management practices..."

I guess anyone who opposes giving people the legal right to open fire on the wild hogs anywhere in California, including residential areas, is going to be labeled "anti-science".  

What a "science-based management" tool looks like...
[media.nextechclassifieds.com image 640x360]


Marlin 336C
 
2022-01-21 8:12:49 AM  
Hog traps. Lots of hog traps.
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I hunt and have no problem with shooting & eating overly populated animals, but hunting doesn't work as well to control hogs as large scale trapping.
 
2022-01-21 8:21:18 AM  

beezeltown: Hog traps. Lots of hog traps.
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I hunt and have no problem with shooting & eating overly populated animals, but hunting doesn't work as well to control hogs as large scale trapping.


Be very careful on FarKKK suggesting that there is any intelligent way to control unwanted animals other than shooting at them.
You will be called a gun-grabber or tree-hugger or both.
When a Real American wants to shoot something, one is not wise to stand in his way.
Some of these yahoos would LOVE to see pickup trucks full of their drunken buddies careening around our suburbs, blazing away at anything they think is a pig in their addled state.
They think allowing that is good government.
 
2022-01-21 8:23:07 AM  
Looking at the prices & empty shelves in the meat aisle lately, I'd say this problem has a tasty, tasty solution somewhere...
 
2022-01-21 8:23:25 AM  

LarrySouth: Birnone: They have no natural predators. It's time to bring grizzlies back to California. We should release a few thousand grizzlies randomly throughout the state and that should fix things.

Sounds fine, until the grizzlies figure out that homeless encampments offer easier prey...


Oh, God, they'll eat some homeless methhead and then you will have methed-up bears. Do we really want methhead grizzlies?
 
2022-01-21 8:24:05 AM  

beezeltown: Hog traps. Lots of hog traps.
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I hunt and have no problem with shooting & eating overly populated animals, but hunting doesn't work as well to control hogs as large scale trapping.


That looks similar to the ones I use. For bait, I use corn soaked in beer trub. I fill a 5 gallon bucket with corn then top it off with the stuff from the bottom of the fermentation tanks at a local brewery. Let that soak for a few days and the pigs will fight each other to get into the trap. I have added cut up apples and wild pears, but the beer soaked corn has been very reliable. The smell will travel a long way.
 
2022-01-21 8:28:37 AM  

moos: lifeslammer: Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?

Feral hogs taste like crap from everyone who tried that apparently

cooked 6 of then one season. they were all delicious.


Some taste foul because of boar taint. Uncastrated pigs produce hormones that either cause the meat to taste like sweat or fecal matter.
 
2022-01-21 8:28:49 AM  

Wookie_Jesus: Bacon?


Gamey meat. Never had it personally, but I've heard it's horrible. Of course, Gordon Ramsay had it on one of his shows one time and he made it taste decent. But that dude can also cook a meal from a bag of flour and tapwater
 
2022-01-21 8:35:45 AM  
There's this outdoorsy thing we do around here called hunting that controls... oh wait California... Nevermind.
 
2022-01-21 8:38:09 AM  

thecactusman17: This will be interesting to see what happens. California has some experience eradicating wild hog infestations, but those were generally on islands where the spread could be limited. More interesting will be to see if the larger predators in the state will be able to manage them at all. We have a variety of native bear and large cat populations, and one of the west coast's only significant native wolf populations.

That said, I think the difficulty in dealing with hogs out here will largely depend on where they settle. Technically most of the state already has a hog presence, but you don't see the large groups of them around populated areas.


Hogs ar just under rabbits in their efficiency to produce young. Not sure you have enough Bears, Wolves, and big cats to handle that.
 
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