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2022-01-21 7:56:46 AM  
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2022-01-21 7:58:54 AM  
That's okay, I don't drink wine, just beer.
 
2022-01-21 8:10:19 AM  
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2022-01-21 8:17:35 AM  
To reduce the risk of alcohol-related harms, the Guidelines recommend that adults of legal drinking age can choose not to drink, or to drink in moderation by limiting intake to 2 drinks or less in a day for men or 1 drink or less in a day for women

https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

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2022-01-21 8:23:49 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: To reduce the risk of alcohol-related harms, the Guidelines recommend that adults of legal drinking age can choose not to drink, or to drink in moderation by limiting intake to 2 drinks or less in a day for men or 1 drink or less in a day for women

https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

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Alcohol was always bad for us.

We don't drink because it's healthy. We drink because life farking sucks.
 
2022-01-21 8:28:20 AM  
Why are the Irish suddenly going on an anti-drinking thing now? You never know with those guys.
 
2022-01-21 9:17:20 AM  

Valter: Zeb Hesselgresser: To reduce the risk of alcohol-related harms, the Guidelines recommend that adults of legal drinking age can choose not to drink, or to drink in moderation by limiting intake to 2 drinks or less in a day for men or 1 drink or less in a day for women

https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

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Alcohol was always bad for us.

We don't drink because it's healthy. We drink because life farking sucks.


There was a long period of history where booze was safer than water.  Mostly because we hadn't figured out sanitation yet.
 
2022-01-21 9:19:46 AM  
And?  When you look at all of the habits people around the world engage in that adversely affect their health, it's pretty clear at this point that most people don't give a rat's ass.  Whether it's drinking, smoking, overeating, inactivity, or vaccine refusal during a global pandemic, people are going to do whatever they want, and to hell with the consequences.
 
2022-01-21 9:40:46 AM  
Alcohol solves all your problems, and then it causes all your problems.
 
2022-01-21 9:42:40 AM  
..."we recognise that everyone's circumstances are different and for some people there is no safe level of drinking, we therefore encourage consumers to take a sensible and measured approach to risk."

Isn't that the general rule for everything?
 
2022-01-21 10:17:02 AM  

nvmac: ..."we recognise that everyone's circumstances are different and for some people there is no safe level of drinking, we therefore encourage consumers to take a sensible and measured approach to risk."

Isn't that the general rule for everything?


I don't think theres any acceptable usage of nicotine products, for starters. a non user can't begin to measure the risks, Its nearly impossible to be a casual user, just quickly becomes something you need instead of want.

booze seems much easier to limit usage and how much, just because of hangovers and feeling awful.  Its more just if you are willing to trade a few hours of a good time for a half day of a bad time the next day.

I don't have any experience with weed, but would certainly give it a shot if it was easily available and legal in my state.
 
2022-01-21 10:22:15 AM  

phedex: nvmac: ..."we recognise that everyone's circumstances are different and for some people there is no safe level of drinking, we therefore encourage consumers to take a sensible and measured approach to risk."

Isn't that the general rule for everything?

I don't think theres any acceptable usage of nicotine products, for starters. a non user can't begin to measure the risks, Its nearly impossible to be a casual user, just quickly becomes something you need instead of want.

booze seems much easier to limit usage and how much, just because of hangovers and feeling awful.  Its more just if you are willing to trade a few hours of a good time for a half day of a bad time the next day.

I don't have any experience with weed, but would certainly give it a shot if it was easily available and legal in my state.


I think you are neglecting people with mental health issues that really truly need their tobacco. But I reckon thats a small segment of smokers.
 
2022-01-21 10:41:30 AM  

Valter: Zeb Hesselgresser: To reduce the risk of alcohol-related harms, the Guidelines recommend that adults of legal drinking age can choose not to drink, or to drink in moderation by limiting intake to 2 drinks or less in a day for men or 1 drink or less in a day for women

https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

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Alcohol was always bad for us.

We don't drink because it's healthy. We drink because life farking sucks.


I find this odd.  Drinking helps me realize how beautiful life is.  Standing in a crowd of people with a nice buzz going is euphoric.
 
2022-01-21 10:42:59 AM  
"Yet there are two paths you can go by, but in the run..."


Life is full of tough choices.


You do you.


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2022-01-21 10:43:51 AM  
Oh, that's weird, the article forgot to mention that Bourbon is fucking delicious.
 
2022-01-21 11:03:57 AM  
If alcohol is so bad for me, why do my hands shake if I haven't had a drink recently?
 
2022-01-21 11:05:00 AM  
Innkeeper! Make me a red-eye!
 
2022-01-21 11:15:43 AM  
I should make a Michelada.
 
2022-01-21 11:21:44 AM  

The Weekend Baker: And?  When you look at all of the habits people around the world engage in that adversely affect their health, it's pretty clear at this point that most people don't give a rat's ass.  Whether it's drinking, smoking, overeating, inactivity, or vaccine refusal during a global pandemic, people are going to do whatever they want, and to hell with the consequences.


You're right to a point.  There is a difference between quality of years and quantity of years, though.

If it were possible, I wonder what the graph would be between loss of years of life from alcohol versus loss of years of life due to stress.  I suspect that stress is much more of a killer then alcohol, which is why they have bad habits.
 
2022-01-21 11:44:29 AM  
I don't have any experience with weed, but would certainly give it a shot if it was easily available and legal in my state.

Please book a vacation to a state where cannabis is legal and try it. I'm begging you.
 
2022-01-21 12:06:13 PM  
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2022-01-21 12:37:34 PM  

OrionXVI: The Weekend Baker: And?  When you look at all of the habits people around the world engage in that adversely affect their health, it's pretty clear at this point that most people don't give a rat's ass.  Whether it's drinking, smoking, overeating, inactivity, or vaccine refusal during a global pandemic, people are going to do whatever they want, and to hell with the consequences.

You're right to a point.  There is a difference between quality of years and quantity of years, though.


Can't argue with that.  You can take care of your health, get in an accident that puts you in a wheelchair for life, and quality of life is gone.  Overall, though, people who take care of their health are typically going to enjoy a better quality of life because they're not going to be burdened with many of the preventable health issues that afflict us today.
 
2022-01-21 12:42:44 PM  
Despite TFA's claims, this is pretty well-studied, and alcohol consumption has a U-shaped mortality curve: moderate consumption is better than either none or lots. Yes, drinking increases your risk of some things, but also decreases the risk of other things. Telling people not to drink at all is actually bad health advice, but the public health problem is that many people have a problem with the "in moderation" part.
 
2022-01-21 1:25:22 PM  
Well at least they died doing what they loved.
 
2022-01-21 3:33:07 PM  

Lish: Despite TFA's claims, this is pretty well-studied, and alcohol consumption has a U-shaped mortality curve: moderate consumption is better than either none or lots. Yes, drinking increases your risk of some things, but also decreases the risk of other things. Telling people not to drink at all is actually bad health advice, but the public health problem is that many people have a problem with the "in moderation" part.



Pretty sure this the type of thing they're talking about when they say "These claims are at best misinformed and at worst an attempt by the alcohol industry to mislead the public about the danger of their product."
 
2022-01-21 4:05:57 PM  

donutsauce: Lish: Despite TFA's claims, this is pretty well-studied, and alcohol consumption has a U-shaped mortality curve: moderate consumption is better than either none or lots. Yes, drinking increases your risk of some things, but also decreases the risk of other things. Telling people not to drink at all is actually bad health advice, but the public health problem is that many people have a problem with the "in moderation" part.


Pretty sure this the type of thing they're talking about when they say "These claims are at best misinformed and at worst an attempt by the alcohol industry to mislead the public about the danger of their product."


The studies I'm referring to were not sponsored by the alcohol industry, so they're showing their bias there. For examples, see this review article published in the journal for the American Heart Association, specifically the summary table of studies, which includes large prospective studies.

One shouldn't claim "alcohol is always good", but it's wrong to say "alcohol is always bad".
 
2022-01-21 4:32:44 PM  

Lish: donutsauce: Lish: Despite TFA's claims, this is pretty well-studied, and alcohol consumption has a U-shaped mortality curve: moderate consumption is better than either none or lots. Yes, drinking increases your risk of some things, but also decreases the risk of other things. Telling people not to drink at all is actually bad health advice, but the public health problem is that many people have a problem with the "in moderation" part.


Pretty sure this the type of thing they're talking about when they say "These claims are at best misinformed and at worst an attempt by the alcohol industry to mislead the public about the danger of their product."

The studies I'm referring to were not sponsored by the alcohol industry, so they're showing their bias there. For examples, see this review article published in the journal for the American Heart Association, specifically the summary table of studies, which includes large prospective studies.

One shouldn't claim "alcohol is always good", but it's wrong to say "alcohol is always bad".


It appears to say it might be good for IHD, but here's a study that says "Although we found some protective effects for ischaemic heart disease and diabetes among women, these effects were offset when overall health risks were considered-especially because of the strong association between alcohol consumption and the risk of cancer, injuries, and communicable disease."

My understanding was there's a bunch of studies we never hear of saying no amount of alcohol is healthy, but the few that say there might be some benefit aren't the greatest studies and those end up all over the news.  Just regurgitating some stuff I've heard, I don't really know.  Seems more carcinogenic than healthy to me.  *shrug*
 
2022-01-21 4:38:25 PM  

fasahd: "Yet there are two paths you can go by, but in the run..."

Life is full of tough choices.

You do you.

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https://allthingscomedy.com/podcasts/14---carry-a-nation

The Dollop Podcast.  I recommend this for a humorous biography of Carrie A. Nation.
 
2022-01-21 5:27:22 PM  

fasahd: "Yet there are two paths you can go by, but in the run..."

Life is full of tough choices.

You do you.

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That quote about being "under the host" belongs to Dorothy Parker.
 
2022-01-21 6:00:13 PM  

Jake Havechek: Why are the Irish suddenly going on an anti-drinking thing now? You never know with those guys.


That's racist.
 
2022-01-21 6:01:31 PM  
Subby can just shut their whore mouth.

*sips arrogant bastard*
 
2022-01-22 5:18:47 PM  
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