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2022-01-20 3:36:42 PM  
Sure, if you accept no federal funding, or federally guaranteed student loans.
 
2022-01-20 3:40:07 PM  
Soak em!
 
2022-01-20 3:42:24 PM  

OdradekRex: Sure, if you accept no federal funding, or federally guaranteed student loans.


Are we sure under the Gorsuch Court?
 
2022-01-20 3:46:17 PM  
BYU is under federal investigation for how it disciplines LGBTQ students

LGBTQ and discipline?  I know Fark isn't my personal erotica site but c'mon...
 
2022-01-20 3:47:16 PM  

OdradekRex: Sure, if you accept no federal funding, or federally guaranteed student loans.


Well, they take Title VI grant money... so there's that.
https://asia-center.utah.edu/news/flasgrant.php
 
2022-01-20 3:50:11 PM  
This ends in the Supreme Court with a lot of unhappy people screaming Jesus Christ.  And that's regardless of which side wins.
 
2022-01-20 5:37:42 PM  

Warthog: This ends in the Supreme Court with a lot of unhappy people screaming Jesus Christ.  And that's regardless of which side wins.


Post of the week, right here.
 
2022-01-20 5:40:20 PM  
If it were up to them, women would be forced to attend what would be basically home ec but for the entire school day.
 
2022-01-20 5:40:50 PM  
If your god is love and 2 adults, who are not hurting anyone, love each other...then denying them is denying your god.
 
2022-01-20 5:41:02 PM  
So what do they call it when two guys go to a football game together, or two girls go to something steretypically "girl-y"?
 
2022-01-20 5:41:49 PM  
Polygamy still okay
 
2022-01-20 5:43:05 PM  
I bet the Big 12 is happy the let BYU join.
 
2022-01-20 5:44:25 PM  

OdradekRex: Sure, if you accept no federal funding, or federally guaranteed student loans.


They only let in black students because other college sports teams refused to play with them.
 
2022-01-20 5:45:07 PM  

dionysusaur: Warthog: This ends in the Supreme Court with a lot of unhappy people screaming Jesus Christ.  And that's regardless of which side wins.

Post of the week, right here.


One side will scream JOSEPH SMITH!
 
2022-01-20 5:45:32 PM  

iheartscotch: If your god is love and 2 adults, who are not hurting anyone, love each other...then denying them is denying your god.


Mormon god is not love.
 
2022-01-20 5:46:39 PM  

iheartscotch: If your god is love and 2 adults, who are not hurting anyone, love each other...then denying them is denying your god.


If god is love, and love is blind, is Ray Charles god?
 
2022-01-20 5:47:29 PM  
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2022-01-20 5:47:40 PM  
Well, BYU could go the way of Hillsdale College, which features world renowned scholar Pat Sajak among its college board members, and not accept federal aid in return for operating their university as they see fit.

Of course, that would mean one of the arms of The Church of Latter Day Saints would lose out on hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in federal money.
 
2022-01-20 5:48:56 PM  

Bondith: iheartscotch: If your god is love and 2 adults, who are not hurting anyone, love each other...then denying them is denying your god.

If god is love, and love is blind, is Ray Charles god?


This is one of those see god in each other questions right?

/ well maybe hear god for Ray
 
2022-01-20 5:49:32 PM  

Rattlesnake Rattles Me: If it were up to them, women would be forced to attend what would be basically home ec but for the entire school day.


That would probably do most people better than university. At least they'd graduate with some basic life skills.
 
2022-01-20 5:50:04 PM  
Just imagine what Utah would be like if there were no restraints imposed by the federal government. Other red states would we awful as well, but probably none so ruthlessly focused and efficient as Utah.
 
2022-01-20 5:51:07 PM  
because the mormon church has been so great about anything sexual. they literally traded their young daughters to church elder for favor. it is a disgusting cult. you can marry and rape my 13 year old daughter if I get more farm land.
nice. Brigham Young had 56 wives. married some as young as 16. nice. let's name a school after this sexual predator.
 
2022-01-20 5:52:12 PM  
Brigham Young sounds like a school a pedo would be interested in.
 
2022-01-20 5:52:41 PM  

chucknasty: because the mormon church has been so great about anything sexual. they literally traded their young daughters to church elder for favor. it is a disgusting cult. you can marry and rape my 13 year old daughter if I get more farm land.
nice. Brigham Young had 56 wives. married some as young as 16. nice. let's name a school after this sexual predator.


Yeah, but he didn't have pierced ears. And somehow that's important to Jesus
 
2022-01-20 5:53:52 PM  
I'm a traditionalist.   I believe in only relations between one man and another man in the Smith Fieldhouse on the down low, as God had intended.
 
2022-01-20 5:55:46 PM  
Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?
 
2022-01-20 5:56:48 PM  

big pig peaches: Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?


Parents offered to pay for it?
 
2022-01-20 5:57:06 PM  

big pig peaches: Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?


Parents paying the bills
 
2022-01-20 5:57:11 PM  
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2022-01-20 5:59:58 PM  
More than a third of BYU students receive Pell Grants, due to the unusual fact that they have such a high number of married undergraduates compared to most universities.  Those bootstrappy "We don't need the federal government"-types actually received double the federal relief than University of Utah, which is about the same size enrollment-wise.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/04/16/funny-reason-why-byu-is/

They don't want to follow Title IX.  Sure.  But that means no more federal government-backed tuition, including the GI Bill, Pell Grants, and other federally-backed student loans, not to mention research money, disaster relief, or COVID relief programs.  When their enrollment plummets due to students having to transfer to schools that will happily take that money and they can't afford to pay their administrators, the tune will change so quickly.
 
2022-01-20 6:02:46 PM  

iheartscotch: If your god is love and 2 adults, who are not hurting anyone, love each other...then denying them is denying your god.


<psst> there's no god
 
2022-01-20 6:02:52 PM  

big pig peaches: Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?


I would think that it would be a great place to find a lot of pent-up people with helicopter parents who are now free to experiment.
 
2022-01-20 6:02:53 PM  
BYU is exempt.  There shouldn't even be an investigation.
 
2022-01-20 6:08:12 PM  

big pig peaches: Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?


Because maybe they offered the best incentives

/sister in law landed a partial academic scholarship from Gonzaga for some reason and it was the best deal she could find including in-state public options after factoring room and board
 
2022-01-20 6:08:56 PM  

big pig peaches: Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?


And why are there black republicans?  Crazy.
 
2022-01-20 6:12:08 PM  
This case seems to be less about Title IX itself and more about the fact that BYU is imposing penalties for rules that no longer exist.

Imagine a jurisdiction removing a law that makes something illegal, then arresting you for doing it anyway. You'd be pissed, right? That's not fair, is it? That's what BYU is doing.
 
2022-01-20 6:13:13 PM  

big pig peaches: Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?


A lot of gay people don't figure it out until they move out of their home and have some measure of autonomy.  Before that they are just enmeshed with their fundamentalist families.
 
2022-01-20 6:15:50 PM  
"We're exempt because we say so".
 
2022-01-20 6:16:35 PM  

dothemath: Wheres the gay section in the bible?
Next to the part about abortion and guns?


I think Paul complained about homosexuals, women and those Corinthians. He was the crazy uncle of the Bible.
 
2022-01-20 6:19:19 PM  

austerity101: This case seems to be less about Title IX itself and more about the fact that BYU is imposing penalties for rules that no longer exist.

Imagine a jurisdiction removing a law that makes something illegal, then arresting you for doing it anyway. You'd be pissed, right? That's not fair, is it? That's what BYU is doing.


That's not very hard.
 
2022-01-20 6:19:30 PM  
The LGBTQ community needs to take the protest to the NCAA. Get them banned from college sports an see what happens.
 
2022-01-20 6:19:46 PM  
From the farking article:

As a private religious school, BYU does have religious exemptions from Title IX related to sexuality and gender expression.

Um, so why/how the lawsuit?
 
2022-01-20 6:20:43 PM  
BYU has the license for an NPR station out of Rexburg, Idaho, where I'm sure they spend the least amount of time required on their NPR shows, and the rest of it is preaching or the farking Mormon Tabernacle Choir.
I hate them.
 
2022-01-20 6:21:55 PM  
Well the important thing is a church that is totes cool with pedophilia, polygamy and worshiping a god that raped a young married woman to produce a son keeps the moral bar held high by making sure that same sex couple don't hold hands in public.

Religion is a mental disorder.
 
2022-01-20 6:23:05 PM  
Have BYU appoint a transgendered person of color as president, or have the government literally drop a nuke on BYU.

Problem solved.

Also tax all religions at 2x the normal tax rate.  Since they cost us so much in the past.

Also have the current BYU president fark a frog.
 
2022-01-20 6:25:58 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Have BYU appoint a transgendered person of color as president, or have the government literally drop a nuke on BYU.

Problem solved.
Yeah!
Also tax all religions at 2x the normal tax rate.  Since they cost us so much in the past.
Yeah!
Also have the current BYU president fark a frog.

Yea...wait, wut?
 
2022-01-20 6:27:58 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Have BYU appoint a transgendered person of color as president, or have the government literally drop a nuke on BYU.

Problem solved.

Also tax all religions at 2x the normal tax rate.  Since they cost us so much in the past.

Also have the current BYU president fark a frog.


What do you have against frogs?
 
2022-01-20 6:29:30 PM  

GloomCookie613: big pig peaches: Why would a gay person even go to a religious college?

Serious question. What do they have there that serves them better then any other school would? Are there commuting students and that's the only school in the area?


/then again why would anyone go their really?

Parents offered to pay for it?


AlgaeRancher: Parents paying the bills


Bingo.  Plus, not wanting to admit to their parents that they are gay, but hoping to be able to be themselves once they are away from home.
 
2022-01-20 6:31:10 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: AmbassadorBooze: Have BYU appoint a transgendered person of color as president, or have the government literally drop a nuke on BYU.

Problem solved.
Yeah!
Also tax all religions at 2x the normal tax rate.  Since they cost us so much in the past.
Yeah!
Also have the current BYU president fark a frog.
Yea...wait, wut?


Ribb't for her pleasure.
 
2022-01-20 6:31:39 PM  

phalamir: AmbassadorBooze: Have BYU appoint a transgendered person of color as president, or have the government literally drop a nuke on BYU.

Problem solved.

Also tax all religions at 2x the normal tax rate.  Since they cost us so much in the past.

Also have the current BYU president fark a frog.

What do you have against frogs?


It is how Mormons cure aids.

I saw it in a documentary.  Someone as delusional as the guy at BYU must be in end stage aids.
 
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