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(SFGate)   San Francisco police shoot and kill gunman dual-wielding firearms at BART. Gunman failed to kill anyone due to the -2 to hit penalty. Shorts remain uneaten   (sfgate.com) divider line
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2022-01-20 2:59:16 PM  
He forgot they nerfed akimbo 1887s.
 
2022-01-20 3:10:23 PM  
...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

"And to sign any necessary paperwork so as to absolve us for our officer's poor aim."
 
2022-01-20 3:54:33 PM  
dual wielding just isn't worth it at the end of the day. better a shield or 2h,
1h finesse dueling bard/rogue is also acceptable
 
2022-01-20 3:54:46 PM  
You are such a geek, subby
+1
 
2022-01-20 3:59:22 PM  

MurphyMurphy: dual wielding just isn't worth it at the end of the day. better a shield or 2h,
1h finesse dueling bard/rogue is also acceptable


You don't do it for the mechanical benefit, you do it because it's cool.  A little bit edgelord, perhaps, but that has more to do with the stereotypical dual-wielding player having kind of spoiled the concept at first glance.  You can overcome that, especially if part of the character concept is that they're kind of a flashy showoff.
 
2022-01-20 4:00:07 PM  

ParallelUniverseParking: You are such a geek, subby
+1


An old geek, 3.5 era.   Its all about using bonus actions now.
 
2022-01-20 4:01:07 PM  

ParallelUniverseParking: You are such a geek, subby
+1


The headline I originally submitted was:

"San Francisco police shoot and kill gunman dual-wielding firearms at BART, shorts reportedly remain uneaten."

An Admin added in the D&D reference.
 
2022-01-20 4:01:58 PM  

Cafe Threads: ...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

"And to sign any necessary paperwork so as to absolve us for our officer's poor aim."


"I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything."
 
2022-01-20 4:03:50 PM  

Cafe Threads: ...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.


"There was one minor injury to a person experiencing homelessness in the area. That person was treated and released at the scene."

Ahh, BART.

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"I can't shoot at an armed maniac without hitting 9 guys experiencing homelessness in your station!"
 
2022-01-20 4:04:35 PM  
so cops tried to non-lethal a white guy pointing 2 guns around a crowded airport
failed
sprayed multiple shots at him
wounded some homeless dude in the backdrop
and hauled that guy off to the hospital which all the media is going along with acting like he just stubbed his toe?

is that where we're at?

b/c the level of detail for something that happened IN AN AIRPORT is so bad here i can only assume the cops confiscated all the tapes on their way out to cover tracks.
 
2022-01-20 4:06:50 PM  

Cafe Threads: ...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

"And to sign any necessary paperwork so as to absolve us for our officer's poor aim."


An upgrade from the young girl the LAPD just murdered.
 
2022-01-20 4:08:44 PM  
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2022-01-20 4:11:07 PM  

oopsboom: b/c the level of detail for something that happened IN AN AIRPORT is so bad here i can only assume the cops confiscated all the tapes on their way out to cover tracks.


It wasn't in the airport - the BART station abuts it. This almost certainly happened within the "ticketed" area / on the platforms, because the homeless tend to stay on the trains / within the system - there's no reason for them to exit through the fare gates into the airport proper
 
2022-01-20 4:12:59 PM  
Will probably turn out the guy was wielding two staple guns.
 
2022-01-20 4:13:02 PM  
Aye carumba.
 
2022-01-20 4:16:17 PM  

BigNumber12: oopsboom: b/c the level of detail for something that happened IN AN AIRPORT is so bad here i can only assume the cops confiscated all the tapes on their way out to cover tracks.

It wasn't in the airport - the BART station abuts it. This almost certainly happened within the "ticketed" area / on the platforms, because the homeless tend to stay on the trains / within the system - there's no reason for them to exit through the fare gates into the airport proper


Got it.
 
2022-01-20 4:23:41 PM  

ParallelUniverseParking: You are such a geek, subby
+1


We assume that the gunman had the Dual Wielding feat, though, otherwise it would have been -6/-10.

Wondering if it was a black man with long white hair and pointy ears.
 
2022-01-20 4:25:02 PM  

Last Man on Earth: MurphyMurphy: dual wielding just isn't worth it at the end of the day. better a shield or 2h,
1h finesse dueling bard/rogue is also acceptable

You don't do it for the mechanical benefit, you do it because it's cool.  A little bit edgelord, perhaps, but that has more to do with the stereotypical dual-wielding player having kind of spoiled the concept at first glance.  You can overcome that, especially if part of the character concept is that they're kind of a flashy showoff.


It's only edgelord is you use slashing weapons.  Dual Wielding clubs isn't edgy at all.
/ Firearms are usually piercing weapons.
 
2022-01-20 4:26:01 PM  
DEFUND THE POLICE
 
2022-01-20 4:28:17 PM  
 
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Bang Bang BART?
 
2022-01-20 4:28:43 PM  

MurphyMurphy: dual wielding just isn't worth it at the end of the day. better a shield or 2h,
1h finesse dueling bard/rogue is also acceptable


To get the most out of Sword and Board, you need dual wielding for your shield bash.
To get the most out of a spear you need dual wielding to use it as a quarterstaff.

/  I am less familiar with 5e. More familiar with PF 1st e.
 
2022-01-20 4:29:58 PM  

BigNumber12: Cafe Threads: ...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

"There was one minor injury to a person experiencing homelessness in the area. That person was treated and released at the scene."

Ahh, BART.

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"I can't shoot at an armed maniac without hitting 9 guys experiencing homelessness in your station!"


"AAAAAAHHWHAT COLOR WAS IT biatch?"
 
2022-01-20 4:30:42 PM  
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with two guns are two good guys with bad aim.
 
2022-01-20 4:31:09 PM  

Cafe Threads: ...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

"And to sign any necessary paperwork so as to absolve us for our officer's poor aim."


I am sure you would have done so much better
 
2022-01-20 4:34:33 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Cafe Threads: ...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

"And to sign any necessary paperwork so as to absolve us for our officer's poor aim."

I am sure you would have done so much better


360 no scope. It works every time.
 
2022-01-20 4:35:08 PM  

OkieDookie: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Cafe Threads: ...[A] bystander in the area was injured in the gunfire [and] was taken to a nearby hospital for treatment.

"And to sign any necessary paperwork so as to absolve us for our officer's poor aim."

I am sure you would have done so much better

360 no scope. It works every time.


FARKING HAXX!!
 
2022-01-20 4:39:31 PM  

wingnut396: ParallelUniverseParking: You are such a geek, subby
+1

An old geek, 3.5 era.   Its all about using bonus actions now.


TEAM 3.5!

*knucks*
 
2022-01-20 4:45:12 PM  
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2022-01-20 4:47:34 PM  
Well if his penalty was only -2 then he must have had Duel Wielding Mastery, right?  So there's that.
 
2022-01-20 4:51:48 PM  

MurphyMurphy: dual wielding just isn't worth it at the end of the day. better a shield or 2h,
1h finesse dueling bard/rogue is also acceptable


So like this?

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2022-01-20 4:58:03 PM  
>CPR was administered

So they pumped all his blood out...
 
2022-01-20 6:14:35 PM  
SFO BART - the BART train you ride one stop and get off to transfer to the other BART train.  Because the taxi union said so (back before Uber when anyone cared what they said).
 
2022-01-20 6:20:45 PM  

noitsnot: SFO BART - the BART train you ride one stop and get off to transfer to the other BART train.  Because the taxi union said so (back before Uber when anyone cared what they said).


Nearby San Jose, which also has an international airport and light rail, has no light rail to the airport. Could be worse.
 
2022-01-20 6:24:50 PM  
Any ID on the shooter?  I need to do the power stack calculations before the outrage.  Was it a British person?
 
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2022-01-20 7:55:43 PM  
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Dual wielding AKs and no free hand to zip your fly.
 
2022-01-20 8:27:57 PM  

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Dual wielding AKs and no free hand to zip your fly.


That's for easy access to the P-Wang.
 
2022-01-20 8:39:07 PM  
Assuming what was reported is true, I do not have any issues with them shooting him.  If it later turns out he was holding a couple of cell phones, then we'll have a lively discussion about police use of force.
 
2022-01-20 8:40:49 PM  
When did BART go to SFO? I lived there 30 years ago and I know it stopped in Concord in the east. I thought it stopped downtown SF and didn't go south?
 
2022-01-20 8:44:14 PM  

RandyJohnson: When did BART go to SFO? I lived there 30 years ago and I know it stopped in Concord in the east. I thought it stopped downtown SF and didn't go south?


They extended the line a few years ago.  Over the objections of the taxi companies, of course.
 
2022-01-20 9:11:50 PM  

OgreMagi: RandyJohnson: When did BART go to SFO? I lived there 30 years ago and I know it stopped in Concord in the east. I thought it stopped downtown SF and didn't go south?

They extended the line a few years ago.  Over the objections of the taxi companies, of course.


They were cutting down the hill from Concord to Pittsburg when I left in 92. I thought it stopped around the Embarcadaro going south.
 
2022-01-20 9:53:07 PM  

RandyJohnson: OgreMagi: RandyJohnson: When did BART go to SFO? I lived there 30 years ago and I know it stopped in Concord in the east. I thought it stopped downtown SF and didn't go south?

They extended the line a few years ago.  Over the objections of the taxi companies, of course.

They were cutting down the hill from Concord to Pittsburg when I left in 92. I thought it stopped around the Embarcadaro going south.


The SFO station opened way back in 2003, as part of an extension that goes south to the Millbrae Caltrain station.

More recently, they've expanded the east bay lines. One extension currently goes to San Jose, and they plan on taking it as far as the Santa Clara Caltrain station.

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2022-01-20 11:22:14 PM  

cyberspacedout: RandyJohnson: OgreMagi: RandyJohnson: When did BART go to SFO? I lived there 30 years ago and I know it stopped in Concord in the east. I thought it stopped downtown SF and didn't go south?

They extended the line a few years ago.  Over the objections of the taxi companies, of course.

They were cutting down the hill from Concord to Pittsburg when I left in 92. I thought it stopped around the Embarcadaro going south.

The SFO station opened way back in 2003, as part of an extension that goes south to the Millbrae Caltrain station.

More recently, they've expanded the east bay lines. One extension currently goes to San Jose, and they plan on taking it as far as the Santa Clara Caltrain station.

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There has also been talk about extending from Pleasanton to Livermore but the NIMBYs are out in full force. They tried to compromise by making it in the freeway median like Pleasanton instead of downtown to keep those people out but still no go.
 
2022-01-20 11:24:12 PM  

cyberspacedout: RandyJohnson: OgreMagi: RandyJohnson: When did BART go to SFO? I lived there 30 years ago and I know it stopped in Concord in the east. I thought it stopped downtown SF and didn't go south?

They extended the line a few years ago.  Over the objections of the taxi companies, of course.

They were cutting down the hill from Concord to Pittsburg when I left in 92. I thought it stopped around the Embarcadaro going south.

The SFO station opened way back in 2003, as part of an extension that goes south to the Millbrae Caltrain station.

More recently, they've expanded the east bay lines. One extension currently goes to San Jose, and they plan on taking it as far as the Santa Clara Caltrain station.

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A bit more. The best idea for BART/Livermore is to the CalTrain station. It would help the commuters a lot.
 
2022-01-20 11:33:07 PM  
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/muh freedoms!
//the vax is a hoax!
///trump 2024!
////man, Harry has gone downhill since the series ended
 
2022-01-20 11:46:42 PM  

saturn badger: cyberspacedout: RandyJohnson: OgreMagi: RandyJohnson: When did BART go to SFO? I lived there 30 years ago and I know it stopped in Concord in the east. I thought it stopped downtown SF and didn't go south?

They extended the line a few years ago.  Over the objections of the taxi companies, of course.

They were cutting down the hill from Concord to Pittsburg when I left in 92. I thought it stopped around the Embarcadaro going south.

The SFO station opened way back in 2003, as part of an extension that goes south to the Millbrae Caltrain station.

More recently, they've expanded the east bay lines. One extension currently goes to San Jose, and they plan on taking it as far as the Santa Clara Caltrain station.

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There has also been talk about extending from Pleasanton to Livermore but the NIMBYs are out in full force. They tried to compromise by making it in the freeway median like Pleasanton instead of downtown to keep those people out but still no go.


I'm all for extending it to Livermore.  However, for the morning and evening commutes, they are full.  It's not feasible to add more people to the mix when they are already running full trains at the maximum capacity of the rail system.
 
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