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(NYPost)   In the "metaverse," Meta (Facebook) wants to track people and create "virtual stores" that sell ad-sponsored digital goods. Fetch me my VR fainting couch   (nypost.com) divider line
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2022-01-20 1:49:32 AM  
Futurama did it in 2000.

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2022-01-20 2:04:47 AM  
Good thing I saved my old flip phones
 
2022-01-20 5:21:25 AM  
Gives a whole new meaning to "pop-up store", doesn't it?


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2022-01-20 5:40:51 AM  
BUT WHAT IF THE NSA IS SPYING ON ME!?!?!?
 
2022-01-20 6:56:32 AM  
Finally they opened up horizon venues to Oculus 1 users.

It's about as 'great' as you'd think.

PRO : Lots of posing gestures that make communication easier.

CON : People getting way, way too close.

PRO : Mute and Block tools make the tools go away

CON : Still idiots who deny climate change.

PRO: Limited icon construction means no nudes or talking penises (yet)

CON : Very limited number of areas to experience, no custom environments.
 
2022-01-20 7:24:43 AM  
Hey, this Metaverse looks pretty good!

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2022-01-20 7:29:49 AM  
In what ways does this metaverse improve upon "outside"?
 
2022-01-20 7:36:44 AM  
Hahahaha, no
 
2022-01-20 7:38:44 AM  

Rapmaster2000: In what ways does this metaverse improve upon "outside"?


Well, this way we can all more easily ignore the problems of the real world and people will just shrug and go into their fake reality! And you can just take more and more from them, even faster, with no resistance.
 
2022-01-20 7:44:26 AM  

SpaceMonkey-66: Hahahaha, no


Oh please.  And did you resist all the other brain-numbing technologies too?  But look at what the Motley Fool says about it!

Nvidia's Omniverse has exciting prospects alongside its dominant GPU business.
Unity's recent acquisition helped accelerate its metaverse offering.
Ways to invest in the metaverse are as broad as the concept itself. Two companies I believe are great investment choices are Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) and Unity Software (NYSE:U).
Both are helping artists and designers create the metaverse with visualization tools. Should the metaverse fade away without having a significant effect, each has ancillary segments that will keep the businesses afloat.


Invest, invest, invest!!  Can't melt those brains without significant financial investment.  But believe me, it all pays off.  Just look at these consumption numbers!!!

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You guys keep shopping, you're doing the good work needed by the metaverse, EVERYWHERE.
 
2022-01-20 7:46:33 AM  

rubi_con_man: Finally they opened up horizon venues to Oculus 1 users.
It's about as 'great' as you'd think.
PRO : Lots of posing gestures that make communication easier.
CON : People getting way, way too close.
PRO : Mute and Block tools make the tools go away
CON : Still idiots who deny climate change.
PRO: Limited icon construction means no nudes or talking penises (yet)
CON : Very limited number of areas to experience, no custom environments.


Translation:

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2022-01-20 8:01:36 AM  

cryinoutloud: rubi_con_man: Finally they opened up horizon venues to Oculus 1 users.
It's about as 'great' as you'd think.
PRO : Lots of posing gestures that make communication easier.
CON : People getting way, way too close.
PRO : Mute and Block tools make the tools go away
CON : Still idiots who deny climate change.
PRO: Limited icon construction means no nudes or talking penises (yet)
CON : Very limited number of areas to experience, no custom environments.

Translation:

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Where I can, yes.  My trucks are 18 and 49 years old respectively for example.  Fark is the only "social media" account I have, hard no on Fakebook, Twit, etc.  I'm not gloating here, you asked.
 
2022-01-20 8:03:19 AM  
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2022-01-20 8:08:32 AM  
I'm 42.
 
2022-01-20 8:09:48 AM  

SpaceMonkey-66: cryinoutloud: rubi_con_man: Finally they opened up horizon venues to Oculus 1 users.
It's about as 'great' as you'd think.
PRO : Lots of posing gestures that make communication easier.
CON : People getting way, way too close.
PRO : Mute and Block tools make the tools go away
CON : Still idiots who deny climate change.
PRO: Limited icon construction means no nudes or talking penises (yet)
CON : Very limited number of areas to experience, no custom environments.

Translation:

[Fark user image image 236x236]

Where I can, yes.  My trucks are 18 and 49 years old respectively for example.  Fark is the only "social media" account I have, hard no on Fakebook, Twit, etc.  I'm not gloating here, you asked.


Oops replied to wrong post, it's early
 
2022-01-20 8:42:37 AM  
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2022-01-20 8:46:25 AM  
Sounds really easy to ignore if I don't buy their hardware or use their optional services. I have been avoiding ads on the internet since before Facebook was a thing.
 
2022-01-20 8:49:22 AM  
I'm suddenly reminded of why I probably have been watching so many off-grid/bushcraft videos lately.

Christ, I work in IT, and I'm turning into a Luddite.
 
2022-01-20 9:04:44 AM  

SpaceMonkey-66: Where I can, yes.  My trucks are 18 and 49 years old respectively for example.  Fark is the only "social media" account I have, hard no on Fakebook, Twit, etc.  I'm not gloating here, you asked.


Good. Me too.  My car is 19 years old.   You're a minority.  I wasn't talking to you.  I'm generally talking to this bunch.

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And what they do, and what they pay for, will affect you too.  And they don't care.  Consuming is their life.
so we get to live with this

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I have a rather large problem with that.  Short of going and living in a cave, I would like to be able to live in this world without being bombarded with unwanted stimuli 24 hours a day.
But thanks to all the wonderful consumers, that world is long gone.
 
2022-01-20 9:07:39 AM  
I must already be in the Metaverse because somehow yesterday on Facebook a page of picture-based classified ads showed up.
 
2022-01-20 9:12:49 AM  
Zuckerberg read Snow Crash and thought L. Bob Rife was the hero.
 
2022-01-20 9:13:45 AM  
If the government told you they were going to do this, everyone would tear the electricity out of their homes.  But since it's just our trusted friend, Facebook.....

Meta also plans to collect data on users so that it could tailor specific ad content while they immerse themselves in the metaverse, the patent filings suggest.
One patent filing shows a sketch of a "wearable magnetic sensor system" that the user places around their torso for "body pose tracking."
Meta's patent filings indicate that it wants to collect user data points such as eye movements in order to create realistic, virtual avatars and sell ad-sponsored digital goods.
Another patent can detect a user's facial expressions through a headset. The system would then compute the expressions and "adapt media content" based on its findings.
The company is essentially following the same business model that translated into tens of billions of dollars in profit through its social network.


So what you do is adapt yourself to the computer network, so that it can tell you what to do.  And nobody blinks a goddamn eye.  Because if you do, a computer will recommend some eye drops for you.  Special ones, so you can stay in the metaverse longer!
And then your kids are going to pay for it!!   Go right into debt, without even thinking about it!  You think micro-charges are bad, you ain't seen nothing yet!!

/Fark it, I'm getting stoned
 
2022-01-20 9:16:50 AM  
I still have no idea what this "metaverse" is supposed to be.  And frankly, I don't think I give a shiat.  Given that it's a Facebook thing, it's going to track you within an inch of your life and plaster you with wall-to-wall ads, many of which will be for far-right rags peddling misinformation and conspiracy theories.

Basically Idiocracy made real.
 
2022-01-20 9:19:09 AM  

xanadian: I'm suddenly reminded of why I probably have been watching so many off-grid/bushcraft videos lately.

Christ, I work in IT, and I'm turning into a Luddite.


I have a Nest and that is the extent of my IoT devices.  I'm cheap and the Nest is always testing just how much heat or cold you can take before you walk over and turn it up.  It keeps going down to 64 degrees at night, which I'm fine with because I'm in bed.  It automatically changes to ECO (60 degrees for heat, 90 degrees for AC) if nobody walks by it for a few hours.  I can also set it to ECO for vacation and then turn it back up when I'm an hour from home so it's warm/cool when I walk in the door.  Nice convenience.

Anyway, you're not in the minority.  I work in IoT and most engineers have not filled their house with IoT devices.  All the sales people have though. The one thing I really am not interested in are smart locks.  The risk is that when Amazon Web Services goes down, you can't get into your house.  That actually happened last month.

As for "hacking", the primary risk of hacking is two things.  The biggest is user error.  People need to stop using lousy passwords and always enable two-factor authentication.  The second is cheap cameras that always have ports open which can then be exploited.  If you're not dealing with Ring or similar, there's no software support.  If there's a security flaw, and there probably is, it will be found and exploited.
 
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2022-01-20 9:39:39 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Anyway, you're not in the minority.  I work in IoT and most engineers have not filled their house with IoT devices.  All the sales people have though. The one thing I really am not interested in are smart locks.  The risk is that when Amazon Web Services goes down, you can't get into your house.  That actually happened last month.


I don't think I've ever seen a smart lock that didn't have a traditional 'non-smart' key slot as a backup.
 
2022-01-20 9:41:34 AM  

hej: Rapmaster2000: Anyway, you're not in the minority.  I work in IoT and most engineers have not filled their house with IoT devices.  All the sales people have though. The one thing I really am not interested in are smart locks.  The risk is that when Amazon Web Services goes down, you can't get into your house.  That actually happened last month.

I don't think I've ever seen a smart lock that didn't have a traditional 'non-smart' key slot as a backup.


And if you trust it will always work, you don't bring the physical keys.  The point seems to be that I can just smart open it for the dog walker, but I can also just give them the code to a keypad lock that doesn't require an internet connection to a server at Amazon.
 
2022-01-20 9:51:54 AM  

cryinoutloud: SpaceMonkey-66: Where I can, yes.  My trucks are 18 and 49 years old respectively for example.  Fark is the only "social media" account I have, hard no on Fakebook, Twit, etc.  I'm not gloating here, you asked.

Good. Me too.  My car is 19 years old.   You're a minority.  I wasn't talking to you.  I'm generally talking to this bunch.

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And what they do, and what they pay for, will affect you too.  And they don't care.  Consuming is their life.
so we get to live with this

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I have a rather large problem with that.  Short of going and living in a cave, I would like to be able to live in this world without being bombarded with unwanted stimuli 24 hours a day.
But thanks to all the wonderful consumers, that world is long gone.


I strongly suspect that "Smart Speakers" is overrepresented by Alexa technically also being a speaker. That said, Alexa doesn't just blurt shiat out. At worst it glows showing a notification, or will ask you something after you give it a command. And if you don't want that sort of thing around, don't buy Alexa... these other "consumers" have literally no effect on you.
 
2022-01-20 10:39:46 AM  

cryinoutloud: SpaceMonkey-66: Where I can, yes.  My trucks are 18 and 49 years old respectively for example.  Fark is the only "social media" account I have, hard no on Fakebook, Twit, etc.  I'm not gloating here, you asked.

Good. Me too.  My car is 19 years old.   You're a minority.  I wasn't talking to you.  I'm generally talking to this bunch.

[Fark user image image 399x264]

And what they do, and what they pay for, will affect you too.  And they don't care.  Consuming is their life.
so we get to live with this

[Fark user image image 439x316]
I have a rather large problem with that.  Short of going and living in a cave, I would like to be able to live in this world without being bombarded with unwanted stimuli 24 hours a day.
But thanks to all the wonderful consumers, that world is long gone.


Agreed, I use PiHole at the house too.  Advertising, particularly the fake word ads (pres meds), are the bane of my existence.
 
2022-01-20 10:51:19 AM  

Rapmaster2000: In what ways does this metaverse improve upon "outside"?


More ad revenue for Facebook. Is that not enough for you to join?
 
2022-01-20 11:45:22 AM  

Rapmaster2000: In what ways does this metaverse improve upon "outside"?


Less Coronavirus?
 
2022-01-20 11:45:36 AM  

xanadian: I'm suddenly reminded of why I probably have been watching so many off-grid/bushcraft videos lately.

Christ, I work in IT, and I'm turning into a Luddite.


The deeper you are into IT, the more you understand the limitations.  Once you have to get behind the curtain and see how the lights, smoke and motion are created... the magic and interest is gone.  You see all the places it can fail.  How easily it can be disrupted.  It becomes something you have to fix, not use.

And your BS detector gets real sensitive.  You know you are in for a painful educational session (ie. you educating an idiot) when someone you work with says "Wouldn't it be great if..."  Immediately afterwards you get to find out if they want to:  1) suspend the laws of physics, 2) Violate the laws of thermodynamics, 3) spend infinite money or 4) sell something nobody wants.
 
2022-01-20 12:00:56 PM  

MadHatter500: xanadian: I'm suddenly reminded of why I probably have been watching so many off-grid/bushcraft videos lately.

Christ, I work in IT, and I'm turning into a Luddite.

The deeper you are into IT, the more you understand the limitations.  Once you have to get behind the curtain and see how the lights, smoke and motion are created... the magic and interest is gone.  You see all the places it can fail.  How easily it can be disrupted.  It becomes something you have to fix, not use.

And your BS detector gets real sensitive.  You know you are in for a painful educational session (ie. you educating an idiot) when someone you work with says "Wouldn't it be great if..."  Immediately afterwards you get to find out if they want to:  1) suspend the laws of physics, 2) Violate the laws of thermodynamics, 3) spend infinite money or 4) sell something nobody wants.


I don't think you have to be an idiot to want 1, 2 or 3... just to think it's actually possible.

I'd definitely love to spend infinite money!
 
2022-01-20 12:31:49 PM  
The Metaverse is beginning to sound a lot like a...

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And the hamster is YOU.
 
2022-01-20 1:02:30 PM  
Ready, Player One was a warning, not a model to be followed.
 
2022-01-20 1:13:41 PM  
I believe integration is inevitable, but Meta won't be it. No one is buying a body kit so Facebook can track your every move.
 
2022-01-20 1:56:29 PM  
I can't wait to get autocensored at all times because advertisers don't want me saying any words with any kind of negative connotation while their ads are in view.
 
2022-01-20 4:02:12 PM  

MadHatter500: xanadian: I'm suddenly reminded of why I probably have been watching so many off-grid/bushcraft videos lately.

Christ, I work in IT, and I'm turning into a Luddite.

The deeper you are into IT, the more you understand the limitations.  Once you have to get behind the curtain and see how the lights, smoke and motion are created... the magic and interest is gone.  You see all the places it can fail.  How easily it can be disrupted.  It becomes something you have to fix, not use.

And your BS detector gets real sensitive.  You know you are in for a painful educational session (ie. you educating an idiot) when someone you work with says "Wouldn't it be great if..."  Immediately afterwards you get to find out if they want to:  1) suspend the laws of physics, 2) Violate the laws of thermodynamics, 3) spend infinite money or 4) sell something nobody wants.


Oh very much this...
 
2022-01-20 6:30:55 PM  

Telos: I strongly suspect that "Smart Speakers" is overrepresented by Alexa technically also being a speaker. That said, Alexa doesn't just blurt shiat out. At worst it glows showing a notification, or will ask you something after you give it a command. And if you don't want that sort of thing around, don't buy Alexa... these other "consumers" have literally no effect on you.


You don't really understand how this shiat works then, do you?  Once it invades all of our space, our space and our independent brain  is gone forever.  Space we could have used to do other things, like think for ourselves.  Like save the farking planet.
But we only have so much free time, and so much concentration.  And it's for sale.
And Facebook doesn't track us on Fark, and I don't have to own a smartphone if I don't want to--Only if I want to be a part of the world now.

You guys just absolutely don't give a fark, do you?  I don't know why I bother.  It's been clear for a long time that you'd rather burn the whole planet down than give up your XBox.
 
2022-01-20 7:19:06 PM  

cryinoutloud: Telos: I strongly suspect that "Smart Speakers" is overrepresented by Alexa technically also being a speaker. That said, Alexa doesn't just blurt shiat out. At worst it glows showing a notification, or will ask you something after you give it a command. And if you don't want that sort of thing around, don't buy Alexa... these other "consumers" have literally no effect on you.

You don't really understand how this shiat works then, do you?  Once it invades all of our space, our space and our independent brain  is gone forever.  Space we could have used to do other things, like think for ourselves.  Like save the farking planet.
But we only have so much free time, and so much concentration.  And it's for sale.
And Facebook doesn't track us on Fark, and I don't have to own a smartphone if I don't want to--Only if I want to be a part of the world now.

You guys just absolutely don't give a fark, do you?  I don't know why I bother.  It's been clear for a long time that you'd rather burn the whole planet down than give up your XBox.


I'm with you.

surveillance capitalism is the greatest threat to human dignity the world has ever invented.
 
2022-01-20 9:26:24 PM  
I'm going to make a Polaroid-bot that will snap things I am looking at in the metaverse and auto-NFT them and put them up for auction.

I'll be a metaverse billionaire!
 
2022-01-21 1:57:35 AM  
So it's a fancy Second Life? Some people actually make a living there.
 
2022-01-21 8:05:59 AM  
Subby, here's your fainting couch, one of 74 options available at a glance. Note the built-in animations. Just US$0.60 or so!

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Athy-Designs-Red-Victorian-Chaise-Silver-Fainting-Couch-Sofa-Lamp-Table-Antique-Baroque-Gothic-Living-Room-Furniture/10937607
 
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