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2022-01-19 10:04:42 PM  
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2022-01-19 10:43:21 PM  
So little flu circulated, in fact, that some scientists now suspect that one of the major strains of influenza might have gone extinct, for lack of humans to infect.

That sounds reasonable except we all know COVID found plenty of people to infect.
 
2022-01-19 10:43:28 PM  
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2022-01-19 11:23:42 PM  
I feel fairly confident that no lessons have been learned.  If we ever reach a decent 'post-COVID' level, you will not find everyone wearing masks indoors during the winter months, nor going for their flu shots in significantly greater numbers.
 
2022-01-19 11:25:35 PM  
This would make an argument for masking and hand washing into the future. Except people tend to return to normal.
 
2022-01-19 11:26:24 PM  
Oh my God I've totally been predicting this for like a year now! Awesome.
 
2022-01-19 11:29:24 PM  

edmo: So little flu circulated, in fact, that some scientists now suspect that one of the major strains of influenza might have gone extinct, for lack of humans to infect.

That sounds reasonable except we all know COVID found plenty of people to infect.


COVID is more contagious than the flu. The precautions we took against COVID were helpful, but they really pulled flu numbers way down. Like way down.
 
2022-01-19 11:31:07 PM  

Unsung_Hero: I feel fairly confident that no lessons have been learned.  If we ever reach a decent 'post-COVID' level, you will not find everyone wearing masks indoors during the winter months, nor going for their flu shots in significantly greater numbers.


Assuming we ever get to a post Covid world, the common cold and flu are not enough reason for many to wear masks in public.

//Wears mask in public
///Did even when it started and was told not to
 
2022-01-19 11:35:54 PM  

wildcardjack: This would make an argument for masking and hand washing into the future. Except people tend to return to normal.


Going through a 2nd winter with no cold and no flu because of masking, washing hands and social distancing is enough for me to continue doing all 3 the rest of my life is not a problem.

Hell just after having no colds or flu after one winter of masking, hand washing and social distancing was already enough for me to continue those practices forever.

I'll continue to get my yearly flu and pneumonia shot as well. And if I need a covid booster once or twice a year, I'm fine with that as well.
 
2022-01-19 11:40:28 PM  

suebhoney: wildcardjack: This would make an argument for masking and hand washing into the future. Except people tend to return to normal.

Going through a 2nd winter with no cold and no flu because of masking, washing hands and social distancing is enough for me to continue doing all 3 the rest of my life is not a problem.

Hell just after having no colds or flu after one winter of masking, hand washing and social distancing was already enough for me to continue those practices forever.

I'll continue to get my yearly flu and pneumonia shot as well. And if I need a covid booster once or twice a year, I'm fine with that as well.


While I'm happy you found things that work for you, mask-wearing does not work for me, as it's the #1 reason I'm barely working right now. So I look forward enormously to the day that we can reasonably safely walk around without masks on, so I can stop worrying about starving to death.

That, and they make my glasses fog up, and it's miserable.

/yes, I tried that.
//tried that, too.
///unless you're gonna buy my contact lenses for me, this is not an option.
 
2022-01-20 12:00:12 AM  
And urine will save us from Covid. It's the cycle of life.
 
2022-01-20 12:04:00 AM  

suebhoney: Going through a 2nd winter with no cold and no flu because of masking, washing hands and social distancing is enough for me to continue doing all 3 the rest of my life is not a problem.


Masking, hand-washing, and social distancing should be the law of the land, with zero exceptions, for any suspected cold or flu. Businesses should be fined for having a sick employee on the premises, especially if that person can work remotely.

Asia has been masking for decades. The government needs to push this as, "We're 'Muricans! Whatever those heathen Chinee can do, we can do 1000% better!"
 
2022-01-20 12:07:52 AM  

austerity101: suebhoney: wildcardjack: This would make an argument for masking and hand washing into the future. Except people tend to return to normal.

Going through a 2nd winter with no cold and no flu because of masking, washing hands and social distancing is enough for me to continue doing all 3 the rest of my life is not a problem.

Hell just after having no colds or flu after one winter of masking, hand washing and social distancing was already enough for me to continue those practices forever.

I'll continue to get my yearly flu and pneumonia shot as well. And if I need a covid booster once or twice a year, I'm fine with that as well.

While I'm happy you found things that work for you, mask-wearing does not work for me, as it's the #1 reason I'm barely working right now. So I look forward enormously to the day that we can reasonably safely walk around without masks on, so I can stop worrying about starving to death.

That, and they make my glasses fog up, and it's miserable.

/yes, I tried that.
//tried that, too.
///unless you're gonna buy my contact lenses for me, this is not an option.


Maybe you should ask the thousands of surgeons who wear glasses how they keep their glasses from fogging during hours of surgery.

I put the top edge of the mask under the nose pads, and that seems to work fine.
 
2022-01-20 12:13:43 AM  

indy_kid: austerity101: suebhoney: wildcardjack: This would make an argument for masking and hand washing into the future. Except people tend to return to normal.

Going through a 2nd winter with no cold and no flu because of masking, washing hands and social distancing is enough for me to continue doing all 3 the rest of my life is not a problem.

Hell just after having no colds or flu after one winter of masking, hand washing and social distancing was already enough for me to continue those practices forever.

I'll continue to get my yearly flu and pneumonia shot as well. And if I need a covid booster once or twice a year, I'm fine with that as well.

While I'm happy you found things that work for you, mask-wearing does not work for me, as it's the #1 reason I'm barely working right now. So I look forward enormously to the day that we can reasonably safely walk around without masks on, so I can stop worrying about starving to death.

That, and they make my glasses fog up, and it's miserable.

/yes, I tried that.
//tried that, too.
///unless you're gonna buy my contact lenses for me, this is not an option.

Maybe you should ask the thousands of surgeons who wear glasses how they keep their glasses from fogging during hours of surgery.

I put the top edge of the mask under the nose pads, and that seems to work fine.


Like I said, yes, I've tried that.

The only things I have that work:

- one single mask that fits without that being an issue
- rolls of medical-grade tape I use to tape the mask across my face

Nothing else has worked.
 
2022-01-20 12:14:03 AM  
Oh, and I don't know any surgeons, unfortunately.
 
2022-01-20 12:20:27 AM  

austerity101: Oh, and I don't know any surgeons, unfortunately.


Have you tried shaving cream that prevents mirrors from fogging or actual anti-fog stuff that they sell for car windows?
 
2022-01-20 12:32:50 AM  
Another anthropogenic extinction.  When will people learn to end their destructive behavior and become stewards of nature?
 
2022-01-20 1:57:06 AM  

OhioUGrad: austerity101: Oh, and I don't know any surgeons, unfortunately.

Have you tried shaving cream that prevents mirrors from fogging or actual anti-fog stuff that they sell for car windows?


Use the anti-fog for sports glasses.  I'm pretty sure that the stuff made for car windows will eat through the coatings on polycarbonate glasses.
 
2022-01-20 2:01:11 AM  
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Corona-chan killed the flu!?
 
2022-01-20 2:57:32 AM  

austerity101: suebhoney: wildcardjack: This would make an argument for masking and hand washing into the future. Except people tend to return to normal.

Going through a 2nd winter with no cold and no flu because of masking, washing hands and social distancing is enough for me to continue doing all 3 the rest of my life is not a problem.

Hell just after having no colds or flu after one winter of masking, hand washing and social distancing was already enough for me to continue those practices forever.

I'll continue to get my yearly flu and pneumonia shot as well. And if I need a covid booster once or twice a year, I'm fine with that as well.

While I'm happy you found things that work for you, mask-wearing does not work for me, as it's the #1 reason I'm barely working right now. So I look forward enormously to the day that we can reasonably safely walk around without masks on, so I can stop worrying about starving to death.

That, and they make my glasses fog up, and it's miserable.

/yes, I tried that.
//tried that, too.
///unless you're gonna buy my contact lenses for me, this is not an option.


What is your job, that you can't do if you wear a mask on the subway and in the supermarket?
 
2022-01-20 3:11:34 AM  
No. It took just one person infected at the wet market in Wuhan for COVID to threaten the entire world. If that's all it took for COVID, then if just one person reminds with that flu strain, everyone is still at risk in the same way.
 
2022-01-20 3:12:53 AM  

austerity101: suebhoney: wildcardjack: This would make an argument for masking and hand washing into the future. Except people tend to return to normal.

Going through a 2nd winter with no cold and no flu because of masking, washing hands and social distancing is enough for me to continue doing all 3 the rest of my life is not a problem.

Hell just after having no colds or flu after one winter of masking, hand washing and social distancing was already enough for me to continue those practices forever.

I'll continue to get my yearly flu and pneumonia shot as well. And if I need a covid booster once or twice a year, I'm fine with that as well.

While I'm happy you found things that work for you, mask-wearing does not work for me, as it's the #1 reason I'm barely working right now. So I look forward enormously to the day that we can reasonably safely walk around without masks on, so I can stop worrying about starving to death.

That, and they make my glasses fog up, and it's miserable.

/yes, I tried that.
//tried that, too.
///unless you're gonna buy my contact lenses for me, this is not an option.


Glass fogging is what pushed my wife to get the LASIK treatment she'd been talking about for years
 
2022-01-20 5:41:37 AM  

Alien Robot: No. It took just one person infected at the wet market in Wuhan for COVID to threaten the entire world. If that's all it took for COVID, then if just one person reminds with that flu strain, everyone is still at risk in the same way.


That's sort of the point, dumbass. We're now coming up on two years without a single verified case of B/Yamagata strain flu, at a time when the number of flu cases is astoundingly low with no sign of real rebound.
 
2022-01-20 7:47:44 AM  

erik-k: Alien Robot: No. It took just one person infected at the wet market in Wuhan for COVID to threaten the entire world. If that's all it took for COVID, then if just one person reminds with that flu strain, everyone is still at risk in the same way.

That's sort of the point, dumbass. We're now coming up on two years without a single verified case of B/Yamagata strain flu, at a time when the number of flu cases is astoundingly low with no sign of real rebound.


The way the article reads sounds like they're only talking about Australia.  Although, I think our borders are open again, so if it was extinct from Australia then it won't be for long.

Global eradication would be cool though.
 
2022-01-20 9:46:28 AM  
Given the choice between masking in public forever and never getting sick again or being allowed to be maskless and get the flu once every twenty years I know which one I would pick.
 
2022-01-20 9:55:12 AM  
I'm getting a kick out of this because Mrs K just got over the flu that knocked her down for 2 days. Tested positive for flu, negative for COVID. I got a flu shot a year ago. Maybe it helped protect me.
 
2022-01-20 11:19:28 AM  

edmo: So little flu circulated, in fact, that some scientists now suspect that one of the major strains of influenza might have gone extinct, for lack of humans to infect.

That sounds reasonable except we all know COVID found plenty of people to infect.


And it's possible some of those people also had Influenza B/Yamagata along with COVID.

/but their death certificates gave all the credit to COVID
 
2022-01-20 11:35:35 AM  

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Unfair to common cold viruses as antibodies created during a cold infection help protect against covid (SARS-CoV-2). At least four of the viruses that cause the common cold (there are hundreds) are themselves coronaviruses.
 
2022-01-20 6:53:28 PM  
i wear sunglasses in cold weather and i still havent found a way to keep my mask breath from fogging up the glasses...
 
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