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2022-01-19 4:45:27 PM  
But what if I don't have a smartphone to use to log in with my smartphone?

Nevermind, Slashdot users just covered that.
 
2022-01-19 5:26:24 PM  
This plays well with my new conspiracy theory I want to spread to the anti maskers, that the feds are collecting faces for their Facial Recognition Pre Crime database, and the only way to defeat it is wearing a mask over your mouth and nose in public.

Their heads will explode
 
2022-01-19 5:53:22 PM  
That's a lot of standards
 
2022-01-19 5:55:22 PM  

HighlanderRPI: This plays well with my new conspiracy theory I want to spread to the anti maskers, that the feds are collecting faces for their Facial Recognition Pre Crime database, and the only way to defeat it is wearing a mask over your mouth and nose in public.

Their heads will explode


It will probably work. The only problem i have with this is that ID.me is a private company, and the inevitable leak of their photo database is going to make compromising secure credentials even easier. Or, even worse, a compromise of a DMV license photo database let's every Romanian hacker on earth charge things to your VISA card.
 
2022-01-19 5:57:29 PM  
The MCP is pleased, Tron.
 
2022-01-19 5:59:14 PM  
Well when you're running everything on a 1960s FORTRAN mainframe, you can only get so far
 
2022-01-19 6:02:57 PM  
Uh...just yesterday the IRS website said my legacy login was being "retired" and I needed to make a new account, which included a fairly impressive biometric facial scan with my phone.

So...gee whiz, I hope that was the "Internal Revenue Service" and not the "International Rip-off Syndicate."
 
2022-01-19 6:04:02 PM  

Joe USer: But what if I don't have a smartphone to use to log in with my smartphone?

Nevermind, Slashdot users just covered that.


fark! and slashdot are both news aggregation sites

care to bet which group of users would be smarter?
 
2022-01-19 6:06:13 PM  
Hmmmm...

Who else gets access to the picture database?
 
2022-01-19 6:06:15 PM  
That's annoying.  I hope I won't need that for e-filing taxes.
 
2022-01-19 6:08:31 PM  
Slashdot is still a thing?
 
2022-01-19 6:08:39 PM  

Another Government Employee: Hmmmm...

Who else gets access to the picture database?


Russian hackers?
 
2022-01-19 6:08:59 PM  
ID.me is about a year from having a massive data breach.
 
2022-01-19 6:09:02 PM  
Yeah, that's going to work so well because selfie technology is fully baked and works awesomely.

Oh wait, we abandoned it at work when I did some due diligence and "hacked" it in under an hour.  I didn't even get to test it on people who have dark skin.
 
2022-01-19 6:09:17 PM  

petec: Joe USer: But what if I don't have a smartphone to use to log in with my smartphone?

Nevermind, Slashdot users just covered that.

fark! and slashdot are both news aggregation sites

care to bet which group of users would be smarter?


slashdot commenters are better than Youtube commenters, but not by much.
 
2022-01-19 6:11:21 PM  
Tried to sign into the irs.gov site with my 'legacy' login/pw and it immediately kicked me over to create a new account with ID.me.  Didn't try since I don't need to access irs.gov; last time may have been 2015 based on the old email address in my password vault.

The social security website still works with my current login/pw/2-factor however I do see a choice to use login.gov or this new ID.me thing.  Hopefully my old login keeps working for SSA since I do access that at least yearly and now even more since I'm starting up Medicare this year.

Wonder how well ID.me works with someone who's locked all of their credit reports?
 
2022-01-19 6:12:23 PM  
Now this is why I voted for Biden, dammit.
 
2022-01-19 6:13:49 PM  

Rattlesnake Rattles Me: petec: Joe USer: But what if I don't have a smartphone to use to log in with my smartphone?

Nevermind, Slashdot users just covered that.

fark! and slashdot are both news aggregation sites

care to bet which group of users would be smarter?

slashdot commenters are better than Youtube commenters, but not by much.


The required Beowulf cluster of 1976 era toasters for posting keeps some of the YouTubers and bots out.  Only some.
 
2022-01-19 6:15:06 PM  
that's it, I'm making furry filters the default on both cameras
 
2022-01-19 6:16:01 PM  

petec: Joe USer: But what if I don't have a smartphone to use to log in with my smartphone?

Nevermind, Slashdot users just covered that.

fark! and slashdot are both news aggregation sites

care to bet which group of users would be smarter?


I tried browsing their site and it was literally a wall of sponsored articles and ads. So I can't tell you which users are smarter, but I'll wager that Slashdot users know one weird trick to beat the casinos.
 
2022-01-19 6:16:02 PM  
If I send in a dick-pick, am I stuck using that forever?
 
2022-01-19 6:17:44 PM  

petec: Joe USer: But what if I don't have a smartphone to use to log in with my smartphone?

Nevermind, Slashdot users just covered that.

fark! and slashdot are both news aggregation sites

care to bet which group of users would be smarter?


I gave up my Slashdot account to be here. So it's obviously Fark.
 
2022-01-19 6:20:40 PM  

freidog: If I send in a dick-pick, am I stuck using that forever?


Don't know, but you may end up having to wave your dick in front of the retina scanners at the court house to attend your tax evasion/indecent exposure trial.
 
2022-01-19 6:21:25 PM  

Lsherm: The only problem i have with this is that ID.me is a private company, and the inevitable leak of their photo database is going to make compromising secure credentials even easier.


Yep. If being asked to uploaded a ton of my credentials, including ID, to a third party service is supposed to make me feel more secure ... it doesn't.

If anything, it's having the opposite effect on my sense of security.
 
2022-01-19 6:22:59 PM  

Lsherm: HighlanderRPI: This plays well with my new conspiracy theory I want to spread to the anti maskers, that the feds are collecting faces for their Facial Recognition Pre Crime database, and the only way to defeat it is wearing a mask over your mouth and nose in public.

Their heads will explode

It will probably work. The only problem i have with this is that ID.me is a private company, and the inevitable leak of their photo database is going to make compromising secure credentials even easier. Or, even worse, a compromise of a DMV license photo database let's every Romanian hacker on earth charge things to your VISA card.


I would like to see the IRS budget increased enough to do it in house. Maybe they could look into a few wealthy tax dodgers with the extra money too.
You'd probably have to double or triple the budget.
 
2022-01-19 6:23:12 PM  
If some anonymous benefactor wants to step in and make my estimated tax payments for me, I'd prefer that the IRS not get in the way, thanks.
 
2022-01-19 6:23:21 PM  

Lsherm: HighlanderRPI: This plays well with my new conspiracy theory I want to spread to the anti maskers, that the feds are collecting faces for their Facial Recognition Pre Crime database, and the only way to defeat it is wearing a mask over your mouth and nose in public.

Their heads will explode

It will probably work. The only problem i have with this is that ID.me is a private company, and the inevitable leak of their photo database is going to make compromising secure credentials even easier. Or, even worse, a compromise of a DMV license photo database let's every Romanian hacker on earth charge things to your VISA card.


All of that are valid concerns but ID.me can't recognize a face for shiat, even when it's on a government ID
 
2022-01-19 6:24:22 PM  
I'll send them a picture of me "having a selfie" if that's what they want.
 
2022-01-19 6:26:30 PM  

Diocletian's Last Cabbage: freidog: If I send in a dick-pick, am I stuck using that forever?

Don't know, but you may end up having to wave your dick in front of the retina scanners at the court house to attend your tax evasion/indecent exposure trial.


"Sorry sir, this dick doesn't look anything like your ID. Perhaps you could take some Viagra and try again in twenty minutes."
 
2022-01-19 6:29:49 PM  
So the IRS is going from having zero online filing options to the most intrusive online filing option imaginable?
 
2022-01-19 6:30:14 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: I would like to see the IRS budget increased enough to do it in house. Maybe they could look into a few wealthy tax dodgers with the extra money too.
You'd probably have to double or triple the budget.


Ideally, since we have such a large federal government, there would be a joint effort/department to handle identity for government agencies. Ideally.

I'm a government contractor, and every single large department would rather reinvent the wheel than trust another department with anything, even if that other department is staffed by people from THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT.

So the IRS would have their own identity solution. So would the Social Security administration. Ditto for each branch of the military. Then, just for good measure, smaller agencies would get their own, all the way down the chain, until one office in eastern Wyoming is hosting a single instance of AD with three accounts in it: two admins and one park ranger.
 
2022-01-19 6:32:41 PM  
Penalties from the IRS include face-eating by rats?
 
2022-01-19 6:35:21 PM  
Can I play Choplifter after I file?

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2022-01-19 6:37:16 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Penalties from the IRS include face-eating by rats?


You know, their audits do seem like the old medieval thinking of "We can't trust you are telling the truth, unless we torture you peasant."
 
2022-01-19 6:49:26 PM  
Slashdot?

Now that is a name I haven't heard in a long time
Youtube 031vKBPk5eA
 
2022-01-19 6:49:33 PM  

Lsherm: HighlanderRPI: This plays well with my new conspiracy theory I want to spread to the anti maskers, that the feds are collecting faces for their Facial Recognition Pre Crime database, and the only way to defeat it is wearing a mask over your mouth and nose in public.

Their heads will explode

It will probably work. The only problem i have with this is that ID.me is a private company, and the inevitable leak of their photo database is going to make compromising secure credentials even easier. Or, even worse, a compromise of a DMV license photo database let's every Romanian hacker on earth charge things to your VISA card.


For the purposes of IRS login, I currently identify as Hugh Jackman

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2022-01-19 6:49:36 PM  

Lsherm: The Irresponsible Captain: I would like to see the IRS budget increased enough to do it in house. Maybe they could look into a few wealthy tax dodgers with the extra money too.
You'd probably have to double or triple the budget.

Ideally, since we have such a large federal government, there would be a joint effort/department to handle identity for government agencies. Ideally.

I'm a government contractor, and every single large department would rather reinvent the wheel than trust another department with anything, even if that other department is staffed by people from THEIR OWN DEPARTMENT.

So the IRS would have their own identity solution. So would the Social Security administration. Ditto for each branch of the military. Then, just for good measure, smaller agencies would get their own, all the way down the chain, until one office in eastern Wyoming is hosting a single instance of AD with three accounts in it: two admins and one park ranger.


Strange thing is I think I had to sign up for this last month to renew my passport.  Didn't have to do all the biometric things though.  Hope my account isn't now expired.
 
2022-01-19 6:51:08 PM  
Slashdot?

Natalie Portman!

Hot grits!

/am I doing it right?
 
2022-01-19 6:53:54 PM  
Getting out my VIC-20
 
2022-01-19 6:58:29 PM  
Luddite that I am, I didn't even have a cell phone until 2005. Definitely wasn't doing selfies 40 years ago.
 
2022-01-19 7:08:04 PM  
Welp. The IRS rejected my e-filed taxes "because the AGI from the previous year didn't match". Except it did match, exactly.

So, I went to irs.gov to see if I could find out what's going on. They put me through this new id.me crap, which wanted to verify my email address and phone number, and get a picture of my ID, and get a picture of my face.

It first had trouble figuring out which part of my ID was my picture. A second shot took care of that. Next, it ran an OCR program to get my address from the ID. The OCR failed miserably. When I stated that, I was allowed to enter the correct information... and told I'd have to talk to a live agent by video chat and have extra documents available.

At this point, it is too much farking hassle, so I dropped off and mailed a paper copy of my taxes to the IRS. This does not solve the mystery of why the IRS thinks my AGI is incorrect, which it so definitely isn't.

My theory on that is, TaxAct didn't actually bother to e-file my previous year's taxes, so the IRS doesn't have a record of the AGI at all. I'm sure this will turn out to be fun in the coming months. I notice TaxAct's website makes it distinctly difficult to get hold of any kind of support... for some reason...
 
2022-01-19 7:08:52 PM  
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2022-01-19 7:10:36 PM  

AbuHashish: Can I play Choplifter after I file?

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Johnny_Canuck: Getting out my VIC-20


As someone who just bought my first Commodore 128, I'm getting a kick.
 
2022-01-19 7:16:47 PM  

Rattlesnake Rattles Me: Slashdot is still a thing?


A lot of places are still around. Digg is still there. Something Awful is still there. The Brunching Shuttlecocks hasn't updated in almost 20 years. Still available.
 
2022-01-19 7:19:49 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Rattlesnake Rattles Me: Slashdot is still a thing?

A lot of places are still around. Digg is still there. Something Awful is still there. The Brunching Shuttlecocks hasn't updated in almost 20 years. Still available.


Digg isn't really there. It's like a shadow of HuffPo, which is already a shadow of Huffington Post.
 
2022-01-19 7:20:46 PM  
"Leveraging the power of TikTok facial recognition, we have created a secure login for the IRS..."
 
2022-01-19 7:21:32 PM  

petec: Joe USer: But what if I don't have a smartphone to use to log in with my smartphone?

Nevermind, Slashdot users just covered that.

fark! and slashdot are both news aggregation sites

care to bet which group of users would be smarter?


You aren't making a good case for fark
 
2022-01-19 7:22:49 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Rattlesnake Rattles Me: Slashdot is still a thing?

A lot of places are still around. Digg is still there. Something Awful is still there. The Brunching Shuttlecocks hasn't updated in almost 20 years. Still available.


And the unattainable is still unknown at zombo.com.
 
2022-01-19 7:23:35 PM  
Speaking of 1984 standards: Slashdot!
 
2022-01-19 7:26:51 PM  

dbaggins: ID.me is about a year from having a massive data breach.


Yep.  And when it does, oh my the identity theft that will ensue.

It's funny that the IRS is rolling out facial recognition at the same time that deepfake technology has reached the point where it can subvert it even on a real time video stream.
 
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