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733 clicks; posted to Business » on 19 Jan 2022 at 4:35 PM (16 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-01-19 2:53:34 PM  
If a headline asks a question what is the answer?
 
2022-01-19 4:23:34 PM  

RaceDTruck: If a headline asks a question what is the answer?


The answer is often "penis". I'm not sure how it applies in this case. Though, if it involves "penis" and "volunteer" it might have something to do with Donald Trump and Republicans... and washing and gladly.
 
2022-01-19 4:25:33 PM  
It's a tax thing, subby. Above your pay-grade.
 
2022-01-19 4:52:08 PM  
A $146M program to hand out $65M in tuition. Nice.
 
2022-01-19 4:59:08 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: RaceDTruck: If a headline asks a question what is the answer?

The answer is often "penis". I'm not sure how it applies in this case. Though, if it involves "penis" and "volunteer" it might have something to do with Donald Trump and Republicans... and washing and gladly.


Well you see anyone you take out on a date is a prostitute.  Sure, they volunteered to give your penis a warm wet place to park, but we all know you paid for that sex with dinner.

In fact, the only way to know that you aren't dating a prostitute is to say, "Let me put my penis inside of you, and then I may or may not buy you dinner depending on the outcome of a coin flip".  If they leave, then they were definitely a prostitute and you dodged a bullet.
 
2022-01-19 5:16:03 PM  

RaceDTruck: If a headline asks a question what is the answer?


Depends on the topic discussed, but traditionally it's...

1. Our experts say no.
2. Our producers say yes.

(occasion bonus)
3. Buy this (convenient) crap from our sponsors, to prepare.
 
2022-01-19 5:16:09 PM  
All work is "volunteer" work

unless you are an owned Slave.
 
2022-01-19 5:19:02 PM  
I donated plasma for money while in college.

/Mr. Asparagus needed his 4Loko and Taco Bell
 
2022-01-19 5:36:40 PM  
I would hope there would be very strict rules/guidelines laid out for this "volunteer" work so the people using them don't abuse it.
 
2022-01-19 5:41:07 PM  
If you require any given number of hours of volunteer work as a condition of anything, such as the graduation requirement many high schools have, is that really volunteer work?
 
2022-01-19 5:54:47 PM  
On Tuesday, California Governor Gavin Newsom announced the expansion of a pilot program that will cover $10,000 of tuition costs at 45 California colleges and universities for students who do 450 hours of community service.

Just like the good old days when workers were paid in company scrip!
 
2022-01-19 6:43:21 PM  

RogermcAllen: I_Am_Weasel: RaceDTruck: If a headline asks a question what is the answer?

The answer is often "penis". I'm not sure how it applies in this case. Though, if it involves "penis" and "volunteer" it might have something to do with Donald Trump and Republicans... and washing and gladly.

Well you see anyone you take out on a date is a prostitute.  Sure, they volunteered to give your penis a warm wet place to park, but we all know you paid for that sex with dinner.

In fact, the only way to know that you aren't dating a prostitute is to say, "Let me put my penis inside of you, and then I may or may not buy you dinner depending on the outcome of a coin flip".  If they leave, then they were definitely a prostitute and you dodged a bullet.


My dates just want what seems to very high cab fare for the trip home. I'm like: Sheesh, where do you live?
 
2022-01-19 7:09:10 PM  

AsparagusFTW: I donated plasma for money while in college.

/Mr. Asparagus needed his 4Loko and Taco Bell


And right after you donate blood, you need less to get drunk on!!
 
2022-01-19 7:26:31 PM  

Super Chronic: On Tuesday, California Governor Gavin Newsom announced the expansion of a pilot program that will cover $10,000 of tuition costs at 45 California colleges and universities for students who do 450 hours of community service.

Just like the good old days when workers were paid in company scrip!


Except the school probably doesn't benefit. Makes it weird
 
2022-01-19 7:47:25 PM  

Combustion: AsparagusFTW: I donated plasma for money while in college.

/Mr. Asparagus needed his 4Loko and Taco Bell

And right after you donate blood, you need less to get drunk on!!


Every Tuesday and Thursday....Thursday was higher pay as they incentived you to do it that way. Still have the scar from those thick ass needles.

/stopped drinking tho
 
2022-01-19 8:42:28 PM  

RogermcAllen: I_Am_Weasel: RaceDTruck: If a headline asks a question what is the answer?

The answer is often "penis". I'm not sure how it applies in this case. Though, if it involves "penis" and "volunteer" it might have something to do with Donald Trump and Republicans... and washing and gladly.

Well you see anyone you take out on a date is a prostitute.  Sure, they volunteered to give your penis a warm wet place to park, but we all know you paid for that sex with dinner.

In fact, the only way to know that you aren't dating a prostitute is to say, "Let me put my penis inside of you, and then I may or may not buy you dinner depending on the outcome of a coin flip".  If they leave, then they were definitely a prostitute and you dodged a bullet.


I currently have you favorited as "does the lord's work: executes house sparrows" but I am strongly considering changing that to "engages in quantum prostitution."
 
2022-01-19 9:13:20 PM  
It's just an illegal way of getting around the pesky minimum wage and employment age laws.
 
2022-01-19 9:20:22 PM  
Good.  Get 'em out in the fresh air on litter crews, picking up trash along the roads and trails.  Be good for them; it'll build character.  Make a super force to compete with the inmate crews to see who can pick up the most.  Then try to beat that record!!!
 
2022-01-19 9:58:39 PM  
It's not uncommon to compensate for things like travel expenses, food, needed supplies, etc, but if you're getting an actual paycheck, then you are by definition not a volunteer, you're an employee.
 
2022-01-19 9:59:40 PM  

zimbach: If you require any given number of hours of volunteer work as a condition of anything, such as the graduation requirement many high schools have, is that really volunteer work?


No but that's why the article actually calls it community service.
 
2022-01-19 11:02:52 PM  
Yes, let's require people to perform labor in order to be considered deserving of education. Jesus Christ.
 
2022-01-19 11:26:20 PM  
If it is grossly underpaid work that is societally necessary at least it should give you money enough for gas and food.

Free labor swindling bastards.
 
2022-01-19 11:28:10 PM  
Depends... My company pays you for a day's worth of volunteer work. They'll cover 8 hours if you do volunteer work. Of course, it's not $10 Grand, and it's to encourage you to volunteer more, but it is technically paying you.
 
2022-01-19 11:36:09 PM  

austerity101: Yes, let's require people to perform labor in order to be considered deserving of education. Jesus Christ.


They're not even covering most of it. A quick Google gets:
"The average in-state student attending a public 4-year institution spends $25,615 for one academic year."

So even if they did the 450 hours of work all 4 years on top of being a full-time student, it's going to cover just under 40% of the bill... and that's at a state school. Privates start at about 1.5x that and skyrocket from there.
 
2022-01-19 11:43:21 PM  

trerro: austerity101: Yes, let's require people to perform labor in order to be considered deserving of education. Jesus Christ.

They're not even covering most of it. A quick Google gets:
"The average in-state student attending a public 4-year institution spends $25,615 for one academic year."

So even if they did the 450 hours of work all 4 years on top of being a full-time student, it's going to cover just under 40% of the bill... and that's at a state school. Privates start at about 1.5x that and skyrocket from there.


For them to be able to pay all that on a part-time, 20-hour-a-week job (since they can't really work full-time, as they're busy with school), they'd have to make $30-35 an hour pre-tax.

Ten hours? Double it.

This is neither ethical nor moral.
 
2022-01-20 12:40:00 AM  
I've mused with the idea of doing fundraising to hire people to do the things you might volunteer for. If you're moderately well off and looking for a eusocial contribution to a charitable thing that resembles an actual job, why not sponsor someone for 4-16 hours a week. We stack up the contributions to fully staff a kitchen or roadside cleanup with marginal people who just need a job to get up in the world.
 
2022-01-20 1:54:13 AM  
If you pay someone for volunteer work, is it really volunteer work?

A word means what we say it means, neither more nor less.
 
2022-01-20 5:45:22 AM  
State schools should be free and harder to get into.
 
2022-01-20 6:46:24 AM  
Lots of "non-profits" have management making large salaries.
Are they really "non-profits/"
 
2022-01-20 10:03:56 AM  

wildcardjack: I've mused with the idea of doing fundraising to hire people to do the things you might volunteer for. If you're moderately well off and looking for a eusocial contribution to a charitable thing that resembles an actual job, why not sponsor someone for 4-16 hours a week. We stack up the contributions to fully staff a kitchen or roadside cleanup with marginal people who just need a job to get up in the world.


That sort of thing always made sense to me.  I had the same brainstorm when my company sent 10x $30-60/hr salaried employees (call it $200/hr overhead per employee if you want to beef up the numbers a bit) for a 3 hour volunteer opportunity.  Send the money and pay someone who needs a job.  On the low side that would cover a few weeks of $15/hr employment, on the high side a few months.
 
2022-01-20 10:16:44 AM  

dryknife: Lots of "non-profits" have management making large salaries.
Are they really "non-profits/"


Well, many non profits require people to work their full time, so those people SHOULD get paid. We're not all independently wealthy like you, so if we're doing something full time, it's a job.
 
2022-01-20 4:29:30 PM  
Why only college students?
 
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