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2022-01-19 12:28:50 PM  
A lot of people I know avoid that place already since they are expensive and lean to the left.
 
2022-01-19 12:36:56 PM  
its like a caravan of diseases
 
2022-01-19 12:39:07 PM  
They lean so far to the left they are Capitalist. Those damn commie capitalist atheists who force Karens to become addicted to sugar slug. We should stage a revolution and over throw those commies! Power to the coffee addicts!
 
2022-01-19 12:43:07 PM  
Don't just boycott them.  Boycott them permanently.  Even if they get with the program, it is too late.  Make them have to open up shops in cousinfarkin and horsepasteville.  Make even the Big Starbucks in Seattle a ghost town.  Make them beg for mercy and then say "no".  And pooch your lips out like the bugs bunny meme.
 
2022-01-19 12:43:24 PM  
Six bucks for a beverage containing 2000 calories.
 
2022-01-19 12:44:36 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Six bucks for a beverage containing 2000 calories.


Well when you put it that way, it sounds like a pretty good deal!
 
2022-01-19 12:44:43 PM  
Starbucks is for woke libs who want to virtue signal with their coffee.  I laugh as I enjoy my  Black Rifle Coffee in my Black Rifle Coffee mug while wearing my Black Rifle Coffee hat and Black Rifle Coffee shirt in my truck with a Black Rifle Coffee sticker next to an American flag Punisher sticker and my Thin Blue Line sticker.

Virtue signalers!
 
2022-01-19 12:45:32 PM  
"We respect the court's ruling and will comply," Starbucks Chief Operating Officer John Culver wrote in the memo.

You and I both know that the company keeping its mandate would be in compliance with the ruling, too, you lying little shiat.
 
2022-01-19 12:46:30 PM  
No one goes to Starbucks any more.  It's too crowded.
 
2022-01-19 12:51:32 PM  
A Great Reason To Avoid Starbucks

Their coffee sucks?
 
2022-01-19 12:52:18 PM  
You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?
 
2022-01-19 12:52:57 PM  
My el cheapo grinder, an electric kettle, Costco or Trader Joes whole beans and a Melita pour over right into the Yeti thermos.  5 minutes and we are done. To also include your politics, fark you and your overpriced craptastic coffee.
Also, despise the word 
"barrista" and its slovenly cousin "budtender"
 
2022-01-19 12:53:06 PM  

OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?


Seriously, I've had better coffee out of a gas station
 
2022-01-19 12:55:42 PM  

XtremeLeeWyte: A Great Reason To Avoid Starbucks

Their coffee sucks?


QFT

I have the remnants of a Starbucks gift card, to which I add any Starbucks gift cards I may receive... about $50 over the last few years.  It's handy in an airport when there's nothing else or I'm desperate.  Otherwise it just sits there, because my nearest Starbucks is in Juneau.  I need a plane or boat to get there.
 
2022-01-19 12:56:28 PM  

OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?


So, the reason that Starbucks burns their coffee is because they don't sell coffee.  Starbucks sells coffee flavored milkshakes.  The coffee is burnt so that you can taste the coffee over the whipped cream, steamed milk, and caramel drizzle.
 
2022-01-19 12:56:52 PM  
https://www.deansbeans.com/

Great coffee and the guy that owns the company seems to be a real stand up guy.
 
2022-01-19 12:58:05 PM  
They closed all the Starbucks around here that didn't have drivethrus.
 
2022-01-19 1:01:21 PM  

kdawg7736: A lot of people I know avoid that place already since they are expensive and make shiatty coffee


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2022-01-19 1:01:51 PM  
In the West they have a chain called Dutch Bros which has taken the coffee milkshake idea to its logical conclusion.  They don't even pay lip service to coffee.

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2022-01-19 1:12:17 PM  
Hell, the only reason I need to avoid Starbucks is - they're *Starbucks*.  Their product is crap and way overpriced.
 
2022-01-19 1:20:32 PM  

XtremeLeeWyte: OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?

Seriously, I've had better coffee out of a gas station


Shoutout to the 7-11 House Blend. Consistently, perfectly decent every time. And cheap.
 
2022-01-19 1:27:53 PM  
The two best cups of coffee I ever had were served from 1. Cafe Du Monde in a muggy morning in a pre Katrina NO, 2. The Starbucks fancy Tasting Room on a rainy and cold winter evening in a nearly empty shop in Seattle. The downstairs bar was overstaffed for the night, I had been out trying my lungs walking uphill towards Capitol Hill from 1st, smoking something something blueberry hybrid. It was cold and wet outside, warm and dimly lit inside. The staff were bored but friendly. I told them I didn't like their regular blend. I drink coffee with cream no sugar and don't care for more complex ingredients. The staff asked me about my favorite cup of coffee (that light chicory blend), what it tasted like, what it felt like, what I wanted from a cup of coffee more generally. I went along with the premise and honestly answered their questions with an ill informed coffee vocabulary. They delivered that other best coffee I've ever had, in a real mug. They wrote down what it was (a special limited roast from Africa) brewed and added to steamed milk -- a dark roasted complex coffee turned into a cafe au lait. A misto. It costs the same in that fancy setting as it would have in some grocery store Starbucks kiosk.

Not in love with spendy coffee. My mother's old electric percolator boils Folgers magic. However, Starbucks can turn out a decent affordable luxury that I'll buy when treating someone else. Their regular house roast is garbage, but I've found their staff to be competent and pleasant even when slammed.
 
2022-01-19 1:33:17 PM  
SBC's Henry's blend is our coffee.  Love that stuff.  Starbucks bought Seattle's Best Coffee, rumor has it because Starbucks wanted the prime location SBC had in downtown Seattle.  I still buy it because Starbucks hasn't messed with it, yet.  They did try to do some numbered thing, but went back to the old names.

Did go to the local Starbuck's recently because my to go order at the sushi joint next door was taking awhile.   Tried their chestnut praline thing.  It was interesting, not as sweet as I expected (don't like sweet drinks) because I like chestnuts.  So it will be another several years before I go again.

We make our own lattes with the fancy machine or use the French press.  Coffee and milk or 1/2 & 1/2.  I do buy hazelnut syrup for my husband, he likes that.

The local coop has had some fabulous coffees, but they don't seem to keep the ones we like.  That's frustrating.
 
2022-01-19 1:37:29 PM  
"We respect the court's ruling and will comply," Starbucks Chief Operating Officer John Culver wrote in the memo.

Here, let me translate that:

Biden provided us with "cover" by mandating vaccines, but now a majority of the people in robes says that we don't have to, so suck it. We have no interest in being sued by the governors of the moron states, so fark all y'all, you're on your own. Saves us the trouble of policing our employees' vaccine status, which we didn't want to do anyway. Thanks, everybody!
 
2022-01-19 1:52:06 PM  

mybluemake: The two best cups of coffee I ever had were served from 1. Cafe Du Monde in a muggy morning in a pre Katrina NO, 2. The Starbucks fancy Tasting Room on a rainy and cold winter evening in a nearly empty shop in Seattle. The downstairs bar was overstaffed for the night, I had been out trying my lungs walking uphill towards Capitol Hill from 1st, smoking something something blueberry hybrid. It was cold and wet outside, warm and dimly lit inside. The staff were bored but friendly. I told them I didn't like their regular blend. I drink coffee with cream no sugar and don't care for more complex ingredients. The staff asked me about my favorite cup of coffee (that light chicory blend), what it tasted like, what it felt like, what I wanted from a cup of coffee more generally. I went along with the premise and honestly answered their questions with an ill informed coffee vocabulary. They delivered that other best coffee I've ever had, in a real mug. They wrote down what it was (a special limited roast from Africa) brewed and added to steamed milk -- a dark roasted complex coffee turned into a cafe au lait. A misto. It costs the same in that fancy setting as it would have in some grocery store Starbucks kiosk.

Not in love with spendy coffee. My mother's old electric percolator boils Folgers magic. However, Starbucks can turn out a decent affordable luxury that I'll buy when treating someone else. Their regular house roast is garbage, but I've found their staff to be competent and pleasant even when slammed.


If you're in the habit of guzzling perced Folgers, maybe Starbucks is a step up. I'm not, though. Starbucks is noticeably inferior to what I can make at home in my kitchen. Therefore, as much as I'd like to, I can't  boycott Starbucks for coddling antivaxxers and unnecessarily endangering their employees and customers. That's because I already don't ever go there due to quality issues with their product, and prices that strike me as out of line with value received.
 
2022-01-19 2:15:30 PM  
There's a number of Starbucks shops shutting down due the wage shortage and I can only imagine that, rather than virtue signaling, all companies would rather have a bigger pool to draw from rather than pay workers what they're worth.
 
2022-01-19 2:20:42 PM  

XtremeLeeWyte: OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?

Seriously, I've had better coffee out of a gas station


Yep. Starbucks "coffee" is about on par with instant coffee.
 
2022-01-19 2:27:03 PM  
well here is the upside to all this:

we can instantly see which companies are actually run by Americans that give a shiat about the health and well being of their own fellow Americans.
And which companies are not run by  Americans but are in reality just PARASITES LEECHING VALUE FROM AMERICA.


Anyone that can ask you to take a risk, that they do not take, does not count you as one of them.
 
2022-01-19 3:16:42 PM  
Amateurs.  I'll make my Coffee Milk myself.   

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2022-01-19 3:27:38 PM  
"We respect the court's ruling and will comply," Starbucks Chief Operating Officer John Culver wrote in the memo.

Um, the supreme court didn't say you can't have a mandate for your employees.  The supreme court only said the feds couldn't force you to have one.

Though, where I have a problem with was Cleveland Clinic and University Hospitals (and I'm sure many others) both dropping their mandates after appeals courts struck down the Biden mandate.  When the only reason you, as a huge healthcare provider, are doing it is because you're being FORCED to... you suck.

/Cleveland Clinic is total garbage and I will never step foot in one of their facilities again (No, not because of the mandate debacle but because they're just garbage in general).  University Hospitals isn't garbage, but it's wildly disappointing circumstance none-the-less.
 
2022-01-19 3:35:22 PM  

Moose out front: XtremeLeeWyte: OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?

Seriously, I've had better coffee out of a gas station

Yep. Starbucks "coffee" is about on par with instant coffee.


I've only ever tried two brands of instant coffee, but they were both terri-bad.

I was looking into a "camping coffee" solution.

So far? It's "take pre-ground coffee"
 
2022-01-19 3:37:07 PM  
Starbucks management: How can we severely damage our corporate image AND betray our workforce in one move? Wait, we've got an idea!
 
2022-01-19 3:46:19 PM  
Starbucks making this move is watching a corporation take the path of least resistance and maximum profit in real-time. Pretty sure if you removed the requirement to have restrooms/toilets on premises you'd see them disappear just as fast.
 
2022-01-19 4:14:07 PM  
Other than the bad coffee, inferior food, and ridiculous prices?

Oh noes, whatever shall I do?  Where will I get charcoal water and a $6.50 4"x3" ciabatta roll with half a slice of american cheese now?

7Eleven has better coffee and food.  Let that sink in for a moment.  Somehow, Starbucks manages to be worse than 7Eleven at the only two things they do.

On top of that, every single city has local joints that serve better coffee (to-go even!) and food for less.  Keep your money local.
 
2022-01-19 4:30:34 PM  
I've hated Starbucks since before it was cool to hate it, while it was cool to hate it, after it was cool to hate it, and then while it was cool again to hate it. I'm not going to start or stop hating it now.
 
2022-01-19 4:48:55 PM  
because it is expensive and tastes like burn tar?
 
2022-01-19 4:49:51 PM  

XtremeLeeWyte: Moose out front: XtremeLeeWyte: OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?

Seriously, I've had better coffee out of a gas station

Yep. Starbucks "coffee" is about on par with instant coffee.

I've only ever tried two brands of instant coffee, but they were both terri-bad.

I was looking into a "camping coffee" solution.

So far? It's "take pre-ground coffee"


I make concentrated coffee for camping trips.   It's a pain in the butt, but worth it.  Only need to heat up some water on those frosty mornings.
 
2022-01-19 5:17:18 PM  

thurstonxhowell: "We respect the court's ruling and will comply," Starbucks Chief Operating Officer John Culver wrote in the memo.

You and I both know that the company keeping its mandate would be in compliance with the ruling, too, you lying little shiat.


Yeah, and they have followed the science and understand that vaccine mandates - even universal vaccination - wouldn't stop the pandemic. And something that isn't going to measurably stop the pandemic has no place in being mandated.

If you don't agree with Starbucks, you're welcome to shop elsewhere because it's a free country.

I recommend you read actual science rather than getting your "science" from CNN or FOX news.
 
2022-01-19 5:43:56 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Hell, the only reason I need to avoid Starbucks is - they're *Starbucks*.  Their product is crap and way overpriced.


About once a year, while we are traveling my wife will insist on stopping and getting iced coffee from them.  She also likes Krispy Kreme donuts. Go figure.
 
2022-01-19 5:57:15 PM  

kdawg7736: A lot of people I know avoid that place already since they are expensive and lean to the left.


Looks like they don't lean that much to the left anymore!
 
2022-01-19 7:13:53 PM  

anotherluser: mybluemake: The two best cups of coffee I ever had were served from 1. Cafe Du Monde in a muggy morning in a pre Katrina NO, 2. The Starbucks fancy Tasting Room on a rainy and cold winter evening in a nearly empty shop in Seattle. The downstairs bar was overstaffed for the night, I had been out trying my lungs walking uphill towards Capitol Hill from 1st, smoking something something blueberry hybrid. It was cold and wet outside, warm and dimly lit inside. The staff were bored but friendly. I told them I didn't like their regular blend. I drink coffee with cream no sugar and don't care for more complex ingredients. The staff asked me about my favorite cup of coffee (that light chicory blend), what it tasted like, what it felt like, what I wanted from a cup of coffee more generally. I went along with the premise and honestly answered their questions with an ill informed coffee vocabulary. They delivered that other best coffee I've ever had, in a real mug. They wrote down what it was (a special limited roast from Africa) brewed and added to steamed milk -- a dark roasted complex coffee turned into a cafe au lait. A misto. It costs the same in that fancy setting as it would have in some grocery store Starbucks kiosk.

Not in love with spendy coffee. My mother's old electric percolator boils Folgers magic. However, Starbucks can turn out a decent affordable luxury that I'll buy when treating someone else. Their regular house roast is garbage, but I've found their staff to be competent and pleasant even when slammed.

If you're in the habit of guzzling perced Folgers, maybe Starbucks is a step up. I'm not, though. Starbucks is noticeably inferior to what I can make at home in my kitchen. Therefore, as much as I'd like to, I can't  boycott Starbucks for coddling antivaxxers and unnecessarily endangering their employees and customers. That's because I already don't ever go there due to quality issues with their product, and prices that strike me as out of line with value received.


Yeah, 700 espresso with burr grinder included.  Has paid for itself multiple multiple multiple times.over the last 7 years.  Not that I went to Starbucks a lot or bought coffee a lot, but over 7 years it adds up.  The stuff I make at home is damn good.  I drink Americano, and lately I've been adding just a bit of whole milk or oat milk (trying to cut down on dairy a bit).
 
2022-01-19 7:26:48 PM  

rga184: kdawg7736: A lot of people I know avoid that place already since they are expensive and lean to the left.

Looks like they don't lean that much to the left anymore!


They sell coffee. They don't lean either way, and never did. It's just marketing for the sucker demographic.
 
2022-01-19 7:31:30 PM  

Moose out front: XtremeLeeWyte: OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?

Seriously, I've had better coffee out of a gas station

Yep. Starbucks "coffee" is about on par with instant coffee.


If you're not roasting it daily, is it even worth it?
/spoiler, it isn't.
//roast your own coffee people. It's not that damn hard, and you'll get better results than whatever corporate swill you're chugging now
///French press is just how one turns perfectly good water and coffee into sewage and compost.
 
2022-01-19 7:33:32 PM  

PvtStash: well here is the upside to all this:

we can instantly see which companies are actually run by Americans that give a shiat about the health and well being of their own fellow Americans.
And which companies are not run by  Americans but are in reality just PARASITES LEECHING VALUE FROM AMERICA.


Anyone that can ask you to take a risk, that they do not take, does not count you as one of them.


The F you talking about?  If a company drops a mandate after the Supreme Court ruling, that's them covering their ass from lawsuits just itching to happen by employees who realized they can sue for workplace violations and not get charged a dime unless they win or settle, and if they win or settle, they may be able to add their own legal fees on top of the damages sought.

It's *really* easy to drag an employer through the mud these days.
 
2022-01-19 8:34:08 PM  

natazha: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Hell, the only reason I need to avoid Starbucks is - they're *Starbucks*.  Their product is crap and way overpriced.

About once a year, while we are traveling my wife will insist on stopping and getting iced coffee from them.  She also likes Krispy Kreme donuts. Go figure.


Huh.  I thought I was the only person who disliked Krispy Kreme.  From all I read, they seem to be quite popular.  But to me, they're cardboard soaked in way too much sugar.
 
2022-01-19 8:39:15 PM  
anotherluser: If you're in the habit of guzzling perced Folgers, maybe Starbucks is a step up. I'm not, though. Starbucks is noticeably inferior to what I can make at home in my kitchen. Therefore, as much as I'd like to, I can't  boycott Starbucks for coddling antivaxxers and unnecessarily endangering their employees and customers. That's because I already don't ever go there due to quality issues with their product, and prices that strike me as out of line with value received.

*golf clap*

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2022-01-20 12:49:01 AM  

Rapmaster2000: OdradekRex: You mean other than crappy burnt coffee?

So, the reason that Starbucks burns their coffee is because they don't sell coffee.  Starbucks sells coffee flavored milkshakes.  The coffee is burnt so that you can taste the coffee over the whipped cream, steamed milk, and caramel drizzle.


it's also because it holds longer, thus they can buy larger quantities at a time, and as cheaply as possible
 
2022-01-20 6:39:01 AM  

DeathByGeekSquad: PvtStash: well here is the upside to all this:

we can instantly see which companies are actually run by Americans that give a shiat about the health and well being of their own fellow Americans.
And which companies are not run by  Americans but are in reality just PARASITES LEECHING VALUE FROM AMERICA.


Anyone that can ask you to take a risk, that they do not take, does not count you as one of them.

The F you talking about?  If a company drops a mandate after the Supreme Court ruling, that's them covering their ass from lawsuits just itching to happen by employees who realized they can sue for workplace violations and not get charged a dime unless they win or settle, and if they win or settle, they may be able to add their own legal fees on top of the damages sought.

It's *really* easy to drag an employer through the mud these days.


Kroger did the same. We went from having to upload vaccine proof to "oh, never mind" in about a week's time. It might benefit them to have fewer people out sick, but they probably figured the other hassle isn't worth...mitigating that...

I bet a lot of other companies did the same. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2022-01-20 8:25:35 AM  

kindms: https://www.deansbeans.com/

Great coffee and the guy that owns the company seems to be a real stand up guy.


I have an order of green beans arriving today. Roast them in a 16" skillet. Used to live close enough to drive there. Free shipping over a hundred bucks.
 
2022-01-20 10:44:56 AM  

martian marvel: kindms: https://www.deansbeans.com/

Great coffee and the guy that owns the company seems to be a real stand up guy.

I have an order of green beans arriving today. Roast them in a 16" skillet. Used to live close enough to drive there. Free shipping over a hundred bucks.


Ive never roasted my own. I might have to give it a try
 
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