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2022-01-19 11:14:56 AM  
Bleak? It's been about two years of bleak now.

Biden's term is reminding me of Jimmy Carter's. He's taken office at a time of big problems in the country dressed with a general malaise. His job is to somehow hold it all together and fix a bunch of very difficult problems that he will not be able to fix. It's not sexy or inspiring or satisfying. In the end, folks will call him a terrible president. Just like Jimmy Carter.

Americans don't want to hear truth anymore. They want to party on and ignore problems and generally not be bothered with your downer climate change talk and your depressing racism shiat and your incessant COVID bad news and all the other grownup stuff that we just want fixed so we don't have to be bothered with the details.
 
2022-01-19 11:21:45 AM  
In this thread - our usual despair and gloom.

See you all in the next one.
 
2022-01-19 11:22:52 AM  

edmo: Bleak? It's been about two years of bleak now.

Biden's term is reminding me of Jimmy Carter's. He's taken office at a time of big problems in the country dressed with a general malaise. His job is to somehow hold it all together and fix a bunch of very difficult problems that he will not be able to fix. It's not sexy or inspiring or satisfying. In the end, folks will call him a terrible president. Just like Jimmy Carter.

Americans don't want to hear truth anymore. They want to party on and ignore problems and generally not be bothered with your downer climate change talk and your depressing racism shiat and your incessant COVID bad news and all the other grownup stuff that we just want fixed so we don't have to be bothered with the details.


Ok, here's the flip side: IF we get the pandemic under control, the supply chain issues iron themselves out, people are able to move freely and work without fear of being permanently disabled or dying, and inflation starts coming down, then MAYBE attitudes will swing back the other way in time for the elections last November. A lot can change in 10-11 months. Ask Trump about that.
 
2022-01-19 11:25:05 AM  
Kick the s*** out of the Manchin and Sinema, he can actually get something done.
 
2022-01-19 11:29:38 AM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: edmo: Bleak? It's been about two years of bleak now.

Biden's term is reminding me of Jimmy Carter's. He's taken office at a time of big problems in the country dressed with a general malaise. His job is to somehow hold it all together and fix a bunch of very difficult problems that he will not be able to fix. It's not sexy or inspiring or satisfying. In the end, folks will call him a terrible president. Just like Jimmy Carter.

Americans don't want to hear truth anymore. They want to party on and ignore problems and generally not be bothered with your downer climate change talk and your depressing racism shiat and your incessant COVID bad news and all the other grownup stuff that we just want fixed so we don't have to be bothered with the details.

Ok, here's the flip side: IF we get the pandemic under control, the supply chain issues iron themselves out, people are able to move freely and work without fear of being permanently disabled or dying, and inflation starts coming down, then MAYBE attitudes will swing back the other way in time for the elections last November. A lot can change in 10-11 months. Ask Trump about that.


The stock market will crash before 2022 mid terms or 2024... that is going to usher in a Recession we avoided in 2020/21... (Yes, I know we had 2 consecutive qtrs, I get it... we did not have a "real" recession, we printed our way out of it... ) As always happens, we're going to get a economic firestorm not created by the Democratic President, but it will impact him. Unemployment will go up, housing will crash. bad times... And the Republicans will whisper about how they will save us all with Jesus and Tax Cuts and the unruly mob will listen.

Thank you for coming to my Gloom & Doom Talk
 
2022-01-19 11:29:45 AM  

edmo: Bleak? It's been about two years of bleak now.


Biden will have been in office ONE year as of Noon tomorrow. ONE.
 
2022-01-19 11:46:58 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: edmo: Bleak? It's been about two years of bleak now.

Biden's term is reminding me of Jimmy Carter's. He's taken office at a time of big problems in the country dressed with a general malaise. His job is to somehow hold it all together and fix a bunch of very difficult problems that he will not be able to fix. It's not sexy or inspiring or satisfying. In the end, folks will call him a terrible president. Just like Jimmy Carter.

Americans don't want to hear truth anymore. They want to party on and ignore problems and generally not be bothered with your downer climate change talk and your depressing racism shiat and your incessant COVID bad news and all the other grownup stuff that we just want fixed so we don't have to be bothered with the details.

Ok, here's the flip side: IF we get the pandemic under control, the supply chain issues iron themselves out, people are able to move freely and work without fear of being permanently disabled or dying, and inflation starts coming down, then MAYBE attitudes will swing back the other way in time for the elections last November. A lot can change in 10-11 months. Ask Trump about that.

The stock market will crash before 2022 mid terms or 2024... that is going to usher in a Recession we avoided in 2020/21... (Yes, I know we had 2 consecutive qtrs, I get it... we did not have a "real" recession, we printed our way out of it... ) As always happens, we're going to get a economic firestorm not created by the Democratic President, but it will impact him. Unemployment will go up, housing will crash. bad times... And the Republicans will whisper about how they will save us all with Jesus and Tax Cuts and the unruly mob will listen.

Thank you for coming to my Gloom & Doom Talk


I still think most inflation is being driven by profit taking hiding behind seemingly endless shortages of supplies and workers.

But the former Senator of MBNA will never do anything to threaten this new pipeline of lucre, ensuring the end of the House, Democracy, and whatever is left of his powerless presidency.
 
2022-01-19 11:50:25 AM  
At this point the only rays of hope I'm seeing are from the slow-crawl of the DoJ.

What's Biden's plan for the next year?
 
2022-01-19 11:51:29 AM  
Nope.  It's over.  Nothing good will ever happen again and if you disagree you're a bad person and a conservative.
 
2022-01-19 11:52:57 AM  
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2022-01-19 11:54:14 AM  
What's Politico derping about now?
 
2022-01-19 11:54:46 AM  
This can really only end one of two ways.

2024 sees trump in jail
or
2024 sees trump return to the whitehouse.

And it all depends on what Joe does over the next year or so. None of us has any say in it at all. Everybody in DC has decided to lay down and let trump just run over them... even the DOJ is too scared to enforce the law against him. Its going to take a push from the top to get any momentum going.

I wish i believed that Joe was up for it.... but I dont.
 
2022-01-19 11:55:24 AM  

chewd: This can really only end one of two ways.

2024 sees trump in jail
or
2024 sees trump return to the whitehouse.

And it all depends on what Joe does over the next year or so. None of us has any say in it at all. Everybody in DC has decided to lay down and let trump just run over them... even the DOJ is too scared to enforce the law against him. Its going to take a push from the top to get any momentum going.

I wish i believed that Joe was up for it.... but I dont.


Derp.
 
2022-01-19 11:56:04 AM  
Why you can count on it? Well you can't count on it but it could easily happen because the US Electorate has the collective memory of a brain damaged moron. That's how people like Wrong Johnson can campaign as being "LAW AND ORDER REPUBLICANS" who refuse to denounce cop-killers, terrorists, and traitors.

Something good happens in October? Biden wins.
Something bad happens in October? Biden loses.

This is no different than HITLARY'S OOGA BOOGA BUTTERYMALES!!!!1111111!!!!111!!!!!!1!

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Republicans love themselves some buttery males.
 
2022-01-19 11:56:31 AM  
I'm surprised the article doesn't mention the hundreds of thousands of cons getting themselves killed by a preventable disease.
 
2022-01-19 11:56:55 AM  
Who knows.  People are fickle.  Six months from now covid could be done, schools could be back at 100% open, and all restrictions could be lifted.  If so, the current bleak mindset could change quite a bit.
 
2022-01-19 11:57:10 AM  

whidbey: What's Politico derping about now?

How much of Biden's low popularity is a function of the heckling from other Democrats can't be easily teased out.


What should happen:

At some point between now and the midterms, it's likely that progressive Democrats will stop with their hardcore hating on Biden and rally around him.

What will happen:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2022-01-19 11:58:00 AM  
Because the media likes to create narratives.  They're currently tearing him down for no reason and then later on they'll simply be able to note what he's doing and it'll look like a comeback story.  Easy peasy journalism.
 
2022-01-19 11:58:17 AM  
Yeah, he can start by RICOing everyone involved in the fraudulent electors.
 
2022-01-19 11:59:20 AM  

whidbey: Derp.


Your detailed point has changed my mind, well done sir, i salute your immaculate debate skills!

/eyeroll
 
2022-01-19 11:59:20 AM  

GardenWeasel: whidbey: What's Politico derping about now?

How much of Biden's low popularity is a function of the heckling from other Democrats can't be easily teased out.

What should happen:

At some point between now and the midterms, it's likely that progressive Democrats will stop with their hardcore hating on Biden and rally around him.

What will happen:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


It's not the progressives, it's the media.  And "undecided" voters influenced by the doomsaying.
 
2022-01-19 12:00:12 PM  

chewd: This can really only end one of two ways.

2024 sees trump in jail
or
2024 sees trump return to the whitehouse.

And it all depends on what Joe does over the next year or so. None of us has any say in it at all. Everybody in DC has decided to lay down and let trump just run over them... even the DOJ is too scared to enforce the law against him. Its going to take a push from the top to get any momentum going.

I wish i believed that Joe was up for it.... but I dont.


If Trump ends up in jail, the usual fauxgressives will rally around him and claim persecution by Democrats. Glen Greenwald will lead the charge and they will follow.
 
2022-01-19 12:00:50 PM  

whidbey: GardenWeasel: whidbey: What's Politico derping about now?

How much of Biden's low popularity is a function of the heckling from other Democrats can't be easily teased out.

What should happen:

At some point between now and the midterms, it's likely that progressive Democrats will stop with their hardcore hating on Biden and rally around him.

What will happen:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's not the progressives, it's the media.  And "undecided" voters influenced by the doomsaying.


POINTS
 
2022-01-19 12:01:09 PM  
FTFA; "now that the vast progressive legislative agenda that he adopted - an agenda that was really not very popular- has been flushed"

...and close

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2022-01-19 12:01:38 PM  
He did say he had the skills to work with Senate Republicans. But he can't even wrangle his own party so
 
2022-01-19 12:01:44 PM  
This is Fark, Subs.

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2022-01-19 12:02:19 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: edmo: Bleak? It's been about two years of bleak now.

Biden's term is reminding me of Jimmy Carter's. He's taken office at a time of big problems in the country dressed with a general malaise. His job is to somehow hold it all together and fix a bunch of very difficult problems that he will not be able to fix. It's not sexy or inspiring or satisfying. In the end, folks will call him a terrible president. Just like Jimmy Carter.

Americans don't want to hear truth anymore. They want to party on and ignore problems and generally not be bothered with your downer climate change talk and your depressing racism shiat and your incessant COVID bad news and all the other grownup stuff that we just want fixed so we don't have to be bothered with the details.

Ok, here's the flip side: IF we get the pandemic under control, the supply chain issues iron themselves out, people are able to move freely and work without fear of being permanently disabled or dying, and inflation starts coming down, then MAYBE attitudes will swing back the other way in time for the elections last November. A lot can change in 10-11 months. Ask Trump about that.


Unfortunately it's not going to happen; the plague rats will not allow it. The pandemic should have been under control a year ago.
 
2022-01-19 12:03:09 PM  
Biden's probably at the bottom of a swing right now. Hard to picture his approval going much lower given that Democrats generally like him, and that as we move towards elections, approval becomes less about job approval and more about "do you like him more than the other party."

So I'd say it's more likely he swings up than down. But he could very well sit where he is.
 
2022-01-19 12:04:18 PM  

Dafatone: Biden's probably at the bottom of a swing right now. Hard to picture his approval going much lower given that Democrats generally like him, and that as we move towards elections, approval becomes less about job approval and more about "do you like him more than the other party."

So I'd say it's more likely he swings up than down. But he could very well sit where he is.


He needs a victory.

A big one.
 
2022-01-19 12:04:19 PM  

Troy McClure: Who knows.  People are fickle.  Six months from now covid could be done, schools could be back at 100% open, and all restrictions could be lifted.  If so, the current bleak mindset could change quite a bit.


I think once the little kids, like my 4 year old, can get the vaccine this is a high possibility.

Vaccine for everyone, 3rd world will take longer to roll out, viable treatment options are coming, and omicron is less deady but more infections.  if it mutates again then it could turn into nothing but the cold, it can also flip the other way.  But i think by april we will be back to 'normal'
 
2022-01-19 12:04:24 PM  
I think at this point he's hoping for indictments of Trump from the NY AG (since the feds won't do it in time) just before the elections this year and have the Republican party go full apeshiat including having DeSantis refuse to hand Trump over to NY or have Trump flee to Russia. This is really the best bet for Biden and the Democrats for 2022. The fact that a career Third Way politician claimed to be progressive, got corporate relief passed and then had the party punt any and all promised progressive legislation should tell you all you need to know about Biden and who controls the DNC.

If the DNC were actually upset about those that sank the promised progressive legislation then there would be consequences for doing so. As it stands today, Manchin is still the Chairman of the Senate Energy Committee where he gets to set policies that personally profit him and his family to the tune of millions of dollars. If the DNC were the least bit upset they'd have removed him from that position and cut off the "morally questionable" income that he gets from it. Bottom line is Manchin is doing exactly what Biden and the rest of the Clinton Democrats want him to do.

If you want to see a DNC that will actually do something other than pass legislation that makes the rich richer and everyone else poorer you're going to need to go out and vote in the primaries for progressive candidates.
 
2022-01-19 12:04:33 PM  

GardenWeasel: edmo: Bleak? It's been about two years of bleak now.

Biden will have been in office ONE year as of Noon tomorrow. ONE.


See! It's so bleak it counts as double!!
 
2022-01-19 12:04:48 PM  

GardenWeasel: If Trump ends up in jail, the usual fauxgressives will rally around him and claim persecution by Democrats. Glen Greenwald will lead the charge and they will follow.


THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY!
 
2022-01-19 12:04:57 PM  
I think the Democrats will be fine. The lousy Cencus will wreck red state attempts to gerrymander. Antivaxxers are also ruining said plans.
 
2022-01-19 12:05:03 PM  
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2022-01-19 12:05:35 PM  
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2022-01-19 12:07:11 PM  

nmrsnr: FTFA; "now that the vast progressive legislative agenda that he adopted - an agenda that was really not very popular- has been flushed"

...and close

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It's popular, but people don't want anything from a democrat.  Conservatives aren't going to offer anything close, so the people aren't going to get what they need because of reasons and democrats and so forth. Kinda like Romney/Obamacare.
 
2022-01-19 12:08:05 PM  
Anyway, I have to argue about flying saucers on the beach with people, you know. And I was interested in this: they keep arguing that it is possible. And that's true. It is possible. They do not appreciate that the problem is not to demonstrate whether it's possible or not but whether it's going on or not.

--Richard Feynman


 
2022-01-19 12:08:36 PM  
First, now that the vast progressive legislative agenda that he adopted - an agenda that was really not very popular - has been flushed to the Blue Plains Treatment Plant on the Potomac River, he can return to the smaller-gauge policies that made him popular in the first place. There's still legislative time to break out smaller, more executable chunks of the BBB bill for passage - including stuff that Manchin will support - that will give Democratic candidates more to crow about and restore Biden's previous reputation as a moderate fiscal drinker and not a drunk. The BBB debacle might be the best thing to happen to the Biden presidency yet.

haha to the bold part.  Not very popular to the Democratic leadership or the Republicans but popular as HELL to actual people.  lol

Second, last week he hit the lowest of all his lows in the Quinnipiac Poll, scoring only 33 percent in job approval. That's as low as President Donald Trump reached at the Jan. 6 Capitol Hill riot. He's fallen so far that everything has to be up from here.

Again, haha!  Lower than Trump after Jan 6 but hey nowhere to go but up!  Except, you know there's 33 more points he could go down.

lol

Great find, subby.
 
2022-01-19 12:08:44 PM  

abb3w: Anyway, I have to argue about flying saucers on the beach with people, you know. And I was interested in this: they keep arguing that it is possible. And that's true. It is possible. They do not appreciate that the problem is not to demonstrate whether it's possible or not but whether it's going on or not.

--Richard Feynman


frisbees?
 
2022-01-19 12:08:58 PM  

JJR: [Fark user image 840x418]


Mcdonalds also sells billions of burgers, but my doctor and my own body doesn't like it when I eat there.
 
2022-01-19 12:10:27 PM  
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2022-01-19 12:10:42 PM  
My god, that article is chock full of gems:

With no more campaign pledges to renege on - and discounting other disasters like an Ebola outbreak or World War III over Ukraine - it's hard to imagine any additional diehard Biden supporters will desert him and cause his ratings to tumble lower.


Haha.  Now that he has no more promises that he can break, it's smooth farkin' sailin'!
 
2022-01-19 12:11:29 PM  

WTFDYW: Kick the s*** out of the Manchin and Sinema, he can actually get something done.


How those two still have committee seats and receive funding from the DNC is beyond me. Strip them of their seats and cease all funding to their future campaigns. Hell, even cut Fed funding to AZ and WV for good measure.

And haul Manchins daughter in front of Congress to testify in her role in sky rocketing the costs of epipens.

Make. Them. Suffer.
 
2022-01-19 12:11:42 PM  
More jobs created in 1 year under Biden than the entirety of the GWB and Trump presidencies, combined.

People think he's doing bad because that's what the TV tells them.
 
2022-01-19 12:12:01 PM  
At some point between now and the midterms, it's likely that progressive Democrats will stop with their hardcore hating on Biden and rally around him. After all, what choice do they have?


I need to watch this guy's comedy specials, DAMN.
 
2022-01-19 12:12:05 PM  

chewd: This can really only end one of two ways.

2024 sees trump in jail
or
2024 sees trump return to the whitehouse.

And it all depends on what Joe does over the next year or so. None of us has any say in it at all. Everybody in DC has decided to lay down and let trump just run over them... even the DOJ is too scared to enforce the law against him. Its going to take a push from the top to get any momentum going.

I wish i believed that Joe was up for it.... but I dont.


If those are the only two options it has to be option B because option A is impossible.

It's a good thing those aren't the only two options.
 
2022-01-19 12:13:52 PM  

jethroe: At some point between now and the midterms, it's likely that progressive Democrats will stop with their hardcore hating on Biden and rally around him. After all, what choice do they have?


I need to watch this guy's comedy specials, DAMN.


People are taking the loss Tulsi, Trump, and Putin pretty hard still. Those people are usually progressive in nature.
 
2022-01-19 12:14:29 PM  
I'm really getting tired of hearing "Biden isn't making your life better!" coming from the idiots who are pushing and shoving and blocking him, to keep him from doing it.
 
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