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2022-01-19 10:38:28 AM  
Beer before liquor, never been sicker: FALSE
"The bottom line is, alcohol is alcohol, whether it's in beer or wine or spirit or any other brand-alcohol is alcohol," Edirisinghe says. For the most part, the order in which you consume drinks will have no effect on your puke factor that night or even the hangover the next day.


I never thought it was about the order of drinks, I thought it was you're likely to drink more after starting to feel a buzz and having more liquor instead of more beers toward the end of the night when you're indifferent to what's in your hand is deadly.
 
2022-01-19 10:55:26 AM  
The best hangover cure is to keep drinking: VERY FALSE

The best hangover cure is to pan fry a large flank steak in salted butter.  Eat that then put on a pair of wet socks and go to sleep...

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2022-01-19 12:08:31 PM  

Wadded Beef: Beer before liquor, never been sicker: FALSE
"The bottom line is, alcohol is alcohol, whether it's in beer or wine or spirit or any other brand-alcohol is alcohol," Edirisinghe says. For the most part, the order in which you consume drinks will have no effect on your puke factor that night or even the hangover the next day.

I never thought it was about the order of drinks, I thought it was you're likely to drink more after starting to feel a buzz and having more liquor instead of more beers toward the end of the night when you're indifferent to what's in your hand is deadly.


Yeah, my understanding was also that if your stomach is full (of beer or otherwise,) then liquor won't hit you quite as fast as it would on an empty stomach, so it's easier to underestimate how much you've had until it's too late.

Also, WTF is this:

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Certain drinks cause worse hangovers than others: FALSE
Again, alcohol is alcohol. No combination of drinks or type of drink in itself causes a worse hangover-it's all about the amount you drink. That being said, sometimes additives like sugar can change how the alcohol is being processed. "When your drink contains a lot of sugar, one thing that can happen is that the sugar takes over the metabolism," Edirisinghe says. "The alcohol is directly going to the fat metabolism."
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"Alcohol is alcohol, all hangovers are the same, except that the additives, electrolytes, and water content of what you drink can impact how you feel afterwards."

It's like he didn't read what he wrote.

/ The best hangover cure is to drink 1-2 liters of water before you go to sleep
// If you stop early enough to do that, you'll probably be fine
/// If you get the bed spins or pass out, you're gonna have a bad time and there's not much you can do about it
 
2022-01-19 12:28:15 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Wadded Beef: Beer before liquor, never been sicker: FALSE
"The bottom line is, alcohol is alcohol, whether it's in beer or wine or spirit or any other brand-alcohol is alcohol," Edirisinghe says. For the most part, the order in which you consume drinks will have no effect on your puke factor that night or even the hangover the next day.

I never thought it was about the order of drinks, I thought it was you're likely to drink more after starting to feel a buzz and having more liquor instead of more beers toward the end of the night when you're indifferent to what's in your hand is deadly.

Yeah, my understanding was also that if your stomach is full (of beer or otherwise,) then liquor won't hit you quite as fast as it would on an empty stomach, so it's easier to underestimate how much you've had until it's too late.

Also, WTF is this:

----
Certain drinks cause worse hangovers than others: FALSE
Again, alcohol is alcohol. No combination of drinks or type of drink in itself causes a worse hangover-it's all about the amount you drink. That being said, sometimes additives like sugar can change how the alcohol is being processed. "When your drink contains a lot of sugar, one thing that can happen is that the sugar takes over the metabolism," Edirisinghe says. "The alcohol is directly going to the fat metabolism."
----

"Alcohol is alcohol, all hangovers are the same, except that the additives, electrolytes, and water content of what you drink can impact how you feel afterwards."

It's like he didn't read what he wrote.

/ The best hangover cure is to drink 1-2 liters of water before you go to sleep
// If you stop early enough to do that, you'll probably be fine
/// If you get the bed spins or pass out, you're gonna have a bad time and there's not much you can do about it


I am not a lush nor a lightweight (fark standards notwithstanding).  The raging headache I am sure to have after having two peaty scotchs in an evening beg to differ with the author's assessment.
 
2022-01-19 12:31:26 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Wadded Beef: Beer before liquor, never been sicker: FALSE
"The bottom line is, alcohol is alcohol, whether it's in beer or wine or spirit or any other brand-alcohol is alcohol," Edirisinghe says. For the most part, the order in which you consume drinks will have no effect on your puke factor that night or even the hangover the next day.

I never thought it was about the order of drinks, I thought it was you're likely to drink more after starting to feel a buzz and having more liquor instead of more beers toward the end of the night when you're indifferent to what's in your hand is deadly.

Yeah, my understanding was also that if your stomach is full (of beer or otherwise,) then liquor won't hit you quite as fast as it would on an empty stomach, so it's easier to underestimate how much you've had until it's too late.

Also, WTF is this:

----
Certain drinks cause worse hangovers than others: FALSE
Again, alcohol is alcohol. No combination of drinks or type of drink in itself causes a worse hangover-it's all about the amount you drink. That being said, sometimes additives like sugar can change how the alcohol is being processed. "When your drink contains a lot of sugar, one thing that can happen is that the sugar takes over the metabolism," Edirisinghe says. "The alcohol is directly going to the fat metabolism."
----

"Alcohol is alcohol, all hangovers are the same, except that the additives, electrolytes, and water content of what you drink can impact how you feel afterwards."

It's like he didn't read what he wrote.

/ The best hangover cure is to drink 1-2 liters of water before you go to sleep
// If you stop early enough to do that, you'll probably be fine
/// If you get the bed spins or pass out, you're gonna have a bad time and there's not much you can do about it


Yep. And sugars are added when the alcohol is made, low quality sugars added to the brewing or distilling process can cause these exact headaches. So yeah, the different alcohols CAN matter. I noticed the same thing you did.
 
2022-01-19 12:34:49 PM  
Just listen to your mom, and drink as much water as you can the day after a wild night of knocking them back.

No, actually, if you prepare ahead of time, and have hydrated beforehand, it works amazingly well. I mean, drink a bunch of water before, eat at the beginning, and maybe even drink a glass with your first beer or two. Not only will you feel normal the next day, but you end up getting pretty sideways without getting sideways. You end up with this totally different buzz, no blackouts, and are a lot more in control.

Yes, I discovered this in my 20s, when working at restaurants, and drinking like a fish with everybody as soon as we would get off work.

As far as next day cures, my go-to has always been to get up, chug a V-8 (Hot and Spicy is my favorite),, take a shower, and then go back to sleep for an hour. Works wonders for me, YMMV.
 
2022-01-19 12:41:48 PM  
Best hangover procedure is to drink moonshine from somebody you trust or made yourself. Gotten wrecked on some very pure shine in which i helped do the run, with zero aftereffects the next day.
 
2022-01-19 12:42:42 PM  
The best hangover cure is cannabis. The toughest part is smoking the morning after when you are that hung over. But once you get a few bong hits in you, eating some food and keeping it down is easier
 
2022-01-19 12:48:37 PM  
/ The best hangover cure is to drink 1-2 liters of water before you go to sleep

I can't speak for anyone else, but if I'm wasted and drink 2 liters of water before passing out, there's a 90% chance I'm gonna piss the bed. Hydrating will certainly mitigate an impending hangover, just be careful out there kids.
 
2022-01-19 1:09:15 PM  
I got a hangover cure from a seasoned alcoholic that went to school to be a nutritionist and it has served me well:
1 V8
1 Drink with electrolytes (he used vitamin water)
1 Bacon double cheeseburger (no fries, no soda)

Consume all three in that order.  If you eat the cheeseburger before you've had the beverages you might puke and none of it will work.  I've never consumed all three and had a hangover more than an hour after.

I haven't needed it since I worked out that drinking a pint of water every 2-3 drinks will keep my hydrated enough to keep the worst of the hangovers away.  I'll get a mild headache at most with that method.
 
2022-01-19 1:20:27 PM  

Flashfyr3: Martian_Astronomer: Wadded Beef: Beer before liquor, never been sicker: FALSE
"The bottom line is, alcohol is alcohol, whether it's in beer or wine or spirit or any other brand-alcohol is alcohol," Edirisinghe says. For the most part, the order in which you consume drinks will have no effect on your puke factor that night or even the hangover the next day.

I never thought it was about the order of drinks, I thought it was you're likely to drink more after starting to feel a buzz and having more liquor instead of more beers toward the end of the night when you're indifferent to what's in your hand is deadly.

Yeah, my understanding was also that if your stomach is full (of beer or otherwise,) then liquor won't hit you quite as fast as it would on an empty stomach, so it's easier to underestimate how much you've had until it's too late.

Also, WTF is this:

----
Certain drinks cause worse hangovers than others: FALSE
Again, alcohol is alcohol. No combination of drinks or type of drink in itself causes a worse hangover-it's all about the amount you drink. That being said, sometimes additives like sugar can change how the alcohol is being processed. "When your drink contains a lot of sugar, one thing that can happen is that the sugar takes over the metabolism," Edirisinghe says. "The alcohol is directly going to the fat metabolism."
----

"Alcohol is alcohol, all hangovers are the same, except that the additives, electrolytes, and water content of what you drink can impact how you feel afterwards."

It's like he didn't read what he wrote.

/ The best hangover cure is to drink 1-2 liters of water before you go to sleep
// If you stop early enough to do that, you'll probably be fine
/// If you get the bed spins or pass out, you're gonna have a bad time and there's not much you can do about it

I am not a lush nor a lightweight (fark standards notwithstanding).  The raging headache I am sure to have after having two peaty scotchs in an evening beg to differ with the author's assessment.


I really, really like scotch.

I cannot drink it anymore. If I have more than an eyedropper full, I'll have a bad headache and hangover the next day. Peatier seems to be worse, but even unpeated does it. I don't even have to get buzzed.

Kinda sucks.
 
2022-01-19 1:21:27 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: It's like he didn't read what he wrote.


That's pretty clear. For example:
Breaking the seal: SORT OF TRUE
When alcohol hits your liver it's either going to be metabolized into that aforementioned energy/fat or water. There's not so much a question of if breaking the seal is a real thing but rather a concrete statement that if you are drinking the seal will break and the more you drink, the more you'll have to keep peeing.


That doesn't address the myth, which is that you can hold in more urine until you've peed once, at which point you'll have to pee frequently. No one questions that the more you drink, the more you pee. It's all about when.

Many of the writer's "answers" ignore the myth he's allegedly addressing.
 
2022-01-19 1:23:40 PM  

Dafatone: I cannot drink it anymore. If I have more than an eyedropper full, I'll have a bad headache and hangover the next day. Peatier seems to be worse, but even unpeated does it. I don't even have to get buzzed.


You might have an allergyBeer and whiskey also can cause reactions because both are made from four common allergens: yeast, hops, barley, and wheat.
 
2022-01-19 1:45:54 PM  

kindms: The best hangover cure is cannabis. The toughest part is smoking the morning after when you are that hung over. But once you get a few bong hits in you, eating some food and keeping it down is easier


Marijuana? My god. That's like telling people to quite smoking by taking up heroin.
 
2022-01-19 1:55:57 PM  
Alcohol is alcohol

Wrong! Ethanol, methanol, propanol, butanol, and amyl alcohol are all very different types of alcohol that show up at different times in the distilling process based on their boiling points. Ethanol is the good stuff. The other alcohols will fark your shiat up at high concentrations. Cheaply distilled spirits are more likely to contain undesirable alcohols and chemical compounds that contribute to hangovers. This is why drinking a quality triple distilled vodka is less likely to ruin your day than doing shots of Mr. Boston tequila.

This author fails at basic science and should feel bad.
 
2022-01-19 2:16:00 PM  

Theaetetus: Dafatone: I cannot drink it anymore. If I have more than an eyedropper full, I'll have a bad headache and hangover the next day. Peatier seems to be worse, but even unpeated does it. I don't even have to get buzzed.

You might have an allergy: Beer and whiskey also can cause reactions because both are made from four common allergens: yeast, hops, barley, and wheat.


It's possible, but I can drink all sorts of beers without any issue.
 
2022-01-19 3:47:38 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: Alcohol is alcohol

Wrong! Ethanol, methanol, propanol, butanol, and amyl alcohol are all very different types of alcohol that show up at different times in the distilling process based on their boiling points. Ethanol is the good stuff. The other alcohols will fark your shiat up at high concentrations. Cheaply distilled spirits are more likely to contain undesirable alcohols and chemical compounds that contribute to hangovers. This is why drinking a quality triple distilled vodka is less likely to ruin your day than doing shots of Mr. Boston tequila.

This author fails at basic science and should feel bad.


TIL Mr Boston makes tequila.  I never used them for anything other than weird flavored stuff like creme de menthe or apricot brandy.  Sounds dreadful.
 
2022-01-19 5:39:25 PM  
The physical hangover is a cakewalk compared to the mental hangover, and there seems to be no cure for that besides not getting drunk.
 
2022-01-19 10:39:26 PM  

SirMadness: The physical hangover is a cakewalk compared to the mental hangover, and there seems to be no cure for that besides not getting drunk.


A good greasy bacon cheeseburger and a bloody mary, and I'm right as rain.
Mind you, that also helps most ailments.
 
2022-01-20 6:39:41 AM  
Run a 10k and chug 2 tall boys in the shower after.  No hangover on earth stands a chance.
 
2022-01-20 10:41:35 AM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: Alcohol is alcohol

Wrong! Ethanol, methanol, propanol, butanol, and amyl alcohol are all very different types of alcohol that show up at different times in the distilling process based on their boiling points. Ethanol is the good stuff. The other alcohols will fark your shiat up at high concentrations. Cheaply distilled spirits are more likely to contain undesirable alcohols and chemical compounds that contribute to hangovers. This is why drinking a quality triple distilled vodka is less likely to ruin your day than doing shots of Mr. Boston tequila.

This author fails at basic science and should feel bad.


Fails several times: "When your drink contains a lot of sugar, one thing that can happen is that the sugar takes over the metabolism," Edirisinghe says. "The alcohol is directly going to the fat metabolism."

Wrong: Once we add alcohol to our meal, the metabolism of alcohol will take immediate priority. Essentially, fat, carbohydrate and protein oxidationis suppressed.Once alcohol is converted into acetate in the liver, it enters circulation and only a very small portion can be converted to fatty acids. Basically, acetate is a poor precursor for fat synthesis. One study attempted to estimate fat synthesis after alcohol consumption and found that only~3% of alcohol is converted into body fat. A hangover gives you a fever and the calories are dissipated as heat. Not so for the sugar though.

"The best hangover cure is to keep drinking: VERY FALSE"
I'm not digging a citation. Alcohol protects the body from acetyldehyde even though it inevitably becomes more of it. In acute alcoholism, cold turkey is dangerous and never recommended. A hair of the dog is a healthy choice.
 
2022-01-20 11:13:27 AM  

fasahd: Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: Alcohol is alcohol

Wrong! Ethanol, methanol, propanol, butanol, and amyl alcohol are all very different types of alcohol that show up at different times in the distilling process based on their boiling points. Ethanol is the good stuff. The other alcohols will fark your shiat up at high concentrations. Cheaply distilled spirits are more likely to contain undesirable alcohols and chemical compounds that contribute to hangovers. This is why drinking a quality triple distilled vodka is less likely to ruin your day than doing shots of Mr. Boston tequila.

This author fails at basic science and should feel bad.

Fails several times: "When your drink contains a lot of sugar, one thing that can happen is that the sugar takes over the metabolism," Edirisinghe says. "The alcohol is directly going to the fat metabolism."

Wrong: Once we add alcohol to our meal, the metabolism of alcohol will take immediate priority. Essentially, fat, carbohydrate and protein oxidationis suppressed.Once alcohol is converted into acetate in the liver, it enters circulation and only a very small portion can be converted to fatty acids. Basically, acetate is a poor precursor for fat synthesis. One study attempted to estimate fat synthesis after alcohol consumption and found that only~3% of alcohol is converted into body fat. A hangover gives you a fever and the calories are dissipated as heat. Not so for the sugar though.

"The best hangover cure is to keep drinking: VERY FALSE"
I'm not digging a citation. Alcohol protects the body from acetyldehyde even though it inevitably becomes more of it. In acute alcoholism, cold turkey is dangerous and never recommended. A hair of the dog is a healthy choice.


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2022-01-20 11:13:48 AM  
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2022-01-20 3:06:53 PM  

luna1580: -your-


I was hoping it was just missing a comma.
 
2022-01-20 5:23:49 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: The best hangover cure is to drink 1-2 liters of water before you go to sleep


More booze is the best 'cure' for a hangover in the sense that it's the fastest.  Once you've got one, there's no way that's gonna get you semi-functional quicker.  It's gonna be semi, but it will.  The absolute best in the sense of feeling better is IV fluids over a half hour or so - but most people don't have that option readily available
 
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