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2022-01-19 2:05:57 AM  
Is this something that will delay PillowBrain's promise to have 300 million Americans arrested? I have plans for the weekend and it's too late to reschedule.
Unless I'm part of the 30 million he's not getting the Supreme Court to round up.

/Because that's how all this works.
//Was Trump reinstalled in August?
///Man, this Lindell guy is nutty.
 
2022-01-19 4:01:11 AM  

felching pen: Is this something that will delay PillowBrain's promise to have 300 million Americans arrested? I have plans for the weekend and it's too late to reschedule.
Unless I'm part of the 30 million he's not getting the Supreme Court to round up.

/Because that's how all this works.
//Was Trump reinstalled in August?
///Man, this Lindell guy is nutty.


The 30 million are all too young to vote.  Anyone old enough to get a fake ID is on the list though.
 
2022-01-19 6:33:38 AM  
Why do I get the feeling Lindell's personal vault is likely filled with meticulously cataloged ziploc bags of his daily bowel movements and thousands of stolen wedding photos with his and Trump's faces drawn over the bride and grooms'?

"It's treasure to meeeeeeeeeeee!"
 
2022-01-19 6:38:20 AM  
Is it me, or does "Smartmatic" sound like something Lindell would sell?  "This new pillow has Smartmatic Technology to allow you to sleep better.  Use promo code SMURT for 10% off your order!"
 
2022-01-19 6:59:16 AM  
Let's complain about the Libs "Virtue Signaling".  "Buy my crap because Jesus and American" and start your schtick by complaining about 'Cancel Culture'.

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2022-01-19 6:59:58 AM  
Proving Trump's Big Lie seems trivial next proving Lindell is smart.
 
2022-01-19 7:08:21 AM  
Laundering in plain site.
 
2022-01-19 7:09:06 AM  
He's being smothered by lawsuits!
 
2022-01-19 7:15:27 AM  
Step 1.  Get 300 million Americans arrested
Step 2.  Get the pillow contract for all US jails and prisons.
Step3.  Profit
 
2022-01-19 7:20:36 AM  
He saw the Trump model and is copying it as best he can.
Act like a buffoon.
Say stupid crap all the time.
Get as much attention as possible.
Then the Republican masses will throw money and adoration at him.
 
2022-01-19 7:24:34 AM  
i bought a my pillow and it sucked. i called the support line and they asked what handgun i had under the pillow. i said i didn't have one yet. they recommended several and i'm so happy with my my pillow and gun now. they sent a free copy of the bill of rights and a trumpy bear offer.
 
2022-01-19 7:33:29 AM  
the only certainty is that if electronic voting machines are ever to be trusted they'll have to be running an Open Source operating system that has source code freely available for anyone in the world to look at.

Proprietary black box can't see the source code operating systems won't cut it.


...........waiting for black box software fanboys to prove me wrong..............
 
2022-01-19 7:43:05 AM  
Meh.  He's got loads of money, this doesn't hurt his sales and his attorneys can just copy-paste.
 
2022-01-19 7:47:21 AM  
So, rather than run a moderately successful business in to the ground, you and the company get sued to pieces, to pieces, I say and you can blame it all on the libberidonots

And, of course you have that crack stash, three pipes and five bic lighters stashed where no lawyer will think of looking, so you're set for life.
 
2022-01-19 8:01:04 AM  

hestheone: Meh.  He's got loads of money,...


Not for long. But he doesn't have to worry. I'm sure that check from Trump will be in the mail any day now.


/any day now
 
2022-01-19 8:02:47 AM  
But he's a good christian! He lies and grifts with the best of them. He blames cancel culture when his lies and support of a traitor are what have hurt his bottom line. He can always go back to sucking for his crack fix.
 
2022-01-19 8:06:11 AM  

Linux_Yes: the only certainty is that if electronic voting machines are ever to be trusted they'll have to be running an Open Source operating system that has source code freely available for anyone in the world to look at.

Proprietary black box can't see the source code operating systems won't cut it.


...........waiting for black box software fanboys to prove me wrong..............


There are black box software fanboys? Guess there is a fetish for everyone...(do you secretly want to hate-code with one of them? Or maybe a collaborative "gang code"? Damn son, you're a dirty boy...)
 
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2022-01-19 8:08:58 AM  

Begoggle: He saw the Trump model and is copying it as best he can.
Act like a buffoon.
Say stupid crap all the time.
Get as much attention as possible.
Then the Republican masses will throw money and adoration at him.


Yep.  This is his birther movement
 
2022-01-19 8:11:08 AM  
Did they actually use the phrase "Crazy as a fox" in the lawsuit or did I misread that?
 
2022-01-19 8:13:44 AM  

MordenkainensFaithful Hound: Did they actually use the phrase "Crazy as a fox" in the lawsuit or did I misread that?


should have been "crazy as a loon".  Foxes are sly.
 
2022-01-19 8:16:34 AM  

Numberlady2: MordenkainensFaithful Hound: Did they actually use the phrase "Crazy as a fox" in the lawsuit or did I misread that?

should have been "crazy as a loon".  Foxes are sly.


My thoughts exactly. I couldn't one finger type fast enough to beat you to the punchline.
 
2022-01-19 8:21:11 AM  
How much longer before this PillowPusher becomes a PillowBiter?
 
2022-01-19 8:22:44 AM  

lefty248: Numberlady2: MordenkainensFaithful Hound: Did they actually use the phrase "Crazy as a fox" in the lawsuit or did I misread that?

should have been "crazy as a loon".  Foxes are sly.

My thoughts exactly. I couldn't one finger type fast enough to beat you to the punchline.


His brand of pillows has been dropped from most retailers.  So the lawsuit suggesting he's doing all this to sell more pillows seems questionable at best.

Crazy as a loon is indeed a more accurate assessment.
 
2022-01-19 8:23:03 AM  

Muta: Let's complain about the Libs "Virtue Signaling".  "Buy my crap because Jesus and American" and start your schtick by complaining about 'Cancel Culture'.

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When I saw that commercial over Thanksgiving weekend I was in full WTF mode. He even opened the commercial crying about cancel culture, I wish it existed so I would not have to listen to him anymore.
 
2022-01-19 8:32:19 AM  
Destroy him financially and thoroughly. So he loses the will to ever speak his mind again.
 
2022-01-19 8:36:51 AM  

groppet: Muta: Let's complain about the Libs "Virtue Signaling".  "Buy my crap because Jesus and American" and start your schtick by complaining about 'Cancel Culture'.

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When I saw that commercial over Thanksgiving weekend I was in full WTF mode. He even opened the commercial crying about cancel culture, I wish it existed so I would not have to listen to him anymore.


I don't watch RWNJ cable shows as a practice.
Like yourself, I happened to be somewhere over the holidays where this yahoos infomercial was blasting.
Watched for a few minutes out of curiosity.
Alls I could do was shake my head realizing there is a good chunk of the population nodding and reaching for their wallets.
/shaking my head while typing this
 
2022-01-19 8:43:10 AM  
Assuming this guy has even a smidgen of sanity left in him, I've got to assume at this point he's stashed whatever money he was able to convert to cash inside his famous pillowcases and is hiding them down in a bunker somewhere.  The rest is being spent as quickly as possible so that there's no money left to collect on for the lawsuits.  Once the walls start closing in, he'll disappear into the bunker and then pray every day that his all time biggest crush Trump will one day join him.

That's the best scenario I can come up with for him.
 
2022-01-19 8:50:20 AM  
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About the only real problem I see with this is that they will never be able to actually collect a settlement.  Mr Pillow will be dead or broke by the time this settles.
 
2022-01-19 8:51:07 AM  
mike pillow bite the pillow
 
2022-01-19 8:53:56 AM  
While this guy is a loon of the highest order why does the lawsuit feel like a blatant attempt to grab buckets of money by Smartmatic? To the best of my recollection they haven't lost any sales due to this idiots ramblings since they do not sell to the public and i dont recall hearing about any government agencies returning voting machines and demanding a full refund.
Defamation would require actual damages / injury to the company / party bringing the suit wouldn't it? Also if the crazy pillow man actually believed what he was spewing to be true wouldn't that also have some bearing? Not a lawyer but lawyer things are interesting to me. Just curious.
 
2022-01-19 8:56:39 AM  
hmmm, its almost as if the entire justice system was arranged to not bring guys like this to, well, justice.

/not sure this assclown is the right sort of white guy
//talks too much, you see
///did not rtfa
////why would i?
 
2022-01-19 8:58:26 AM  

Netrngr: Just curious.


They probably did incur the damages of at minimum having to hire some kind of pr team to counter this narrative, 'consultants' aka revolving door people with recent connections who have direct access various state level government officials  and a bunch of lawyers to research the whole thing to create a legal basis for a case.
 
2022-01-19 9:07:14 AM  

Linux_Yes: the only certainty is that if electronic voting machines are ever to be trusted they'll have to be running an Open Source operating system that has source code freely available for anyone in the world to look at.

Proprietary black box can't see the source code operating systems won't cut it.


...........waiting for black box software fanboys to prove me wrong..............


If we go for open source and get lax, as so many times happens, then we're looking at a big disaster after/during an election. Look at the mess the log4j vulnerability created: I spent two weeks answering questions and chasing down infrastructure with vulnerable versions to earmark for patching or deprecation, and I got off LIGHT because my company doesn't use a ton of Java. These kind of vulnerabilities are going to start coming harder and faster in the coming years, too.

That's not to say that I think closed source is better, it usually is not. Paid developers don't have the drive or passion to make the best solution. Instead they understandably focus putting out one that's on schedule and meets the minimum requirement so they keep their jobs. Corners get cut and important and difficult things like cryptography and encryption get dialed back to the least difficult option. Security researchers are usually surprised just how bad some things, like user input validation, really are. And that's the tip of the farking iceberg of fail.

Here's the truth of the matter: for me it's less about whether the software is open or closed source and more around the security placed around the development, deployment, use, and maintenance of the systems. At least for me anyway. If you have proper technical controls in place to ensure the voting machines, storage, transport, tabulation, and dispersal are done in a fashion that ensures privacy, integrity, and availability then I'm happy.
 
2022-01-19 9:22:36 AM  

brokenbiscuits: Linux_Yes: the only certainty is that if electronic voting machines are ever to be trusted they'll have to be running an Open Source operating system that has source code freely available for anyone in the world to look at.

Proprietary black box can't see the source code operating systems won't cut it.


...........waiting for black box software fanboys to prove me wrong..............

If we go for open source and get lax, as so many times happens, then we're looking at a big disaster after/during an election. Look at the mess the log4j vulnerability created: I spent two weeks answering questions and chasing down infrastructure with vulnerable versions to earmark for patching or deprecation, and I got off LIGHT because my company doesn't use a ton of Java. These kind of vulnerabilities are going to start coming harder and faster in the coming years, too.

That's not to say that I think closed source is better, it usually is not. Paid developers don't have the drive or passion to make the best solution. Instead they understandably focus putting out one that's on schedule and meets the minimum requirement so they keep their jobs. Corners get cut and important and difficult things like cryptography and encryption get dialed back to the least difficult option. Security researchers are usually surprised just how bad some things, like user input validation, really are. And that's the tip of the farking iceberg of fail.

Here's the truth of the matter: for me it's less about whether the software is open or closed source and more around the security placed around the development, deployment, use, and maintenance of the systems. At least for me anyway. If you have proper technical controls in place to ensure the voting machines, storage, transport, tabulation, and dispersal are done in a fashion that ensures privacy, integrity, and availability then I'm happy.



Fair enough

but accountability costs money.  and a company's primary goal is to reduce costs to maximize profits.

there is an incentive to cut corners, etc.
 
2022-01-19 9:23:01 AM  

Numberlady2: MordenkainensFaithful Hound: Did they actually use the phrase "Crazy as a fox" in the lawsuit or did I misread that?

should have been "crazy as a loon".  Foxes are sly.


"Crazy like a fox" is an actual phrase.  It refers to someone or some action that appears to be crazy at first glance, but is actually quite smart once you understand the true aim behind the madness.

"Crazy as a loon" is just plain crazy.
 
2022-01-19 9:30:16 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Numberlady2: MordenkainensFaithful Hound: Did they actually use the phrase "Crazy as a fox" in the lawsuit or did I misread that?

should have been "crazy as a loon".  Foxes are sly.

"Crazy like a fox" is an actual phrase.  It refers to someone or some action that appears to be crazy at first glance, but is actually quite smart once you understand the true aim behind the madness.

"Crazy as a loon" is just plain crazy.


You can't get to willful and knowingly if you are crazy. Is could potentially take punitive damages off the table. He may be stupid but the other side will, necessarily, make it seem like hes competent.
 
2022-01-19 9:31:17 AM  

brokenbiscuits: Linux_Yes: the only certainty is that if electronic voting machines are ever to be trusted they'll have to be running an Open Source operating system that has source code freely available for anyone in the world to look at.

Proprietary black box can't see the source code operating systems won't cut it.


...........waiting for black box software fanboys to prove me wrong..............

If we go for open source and get lax, as so many times happens, then we're looking at a big disaster after/during an election. Look at the mess the log4j vulnerability created: I spent two weeks answering questions and chasing down infrastructure with vulnerable versions to earmark for patching or deprecation, and I got off LIGHT because my company doesn't use a ton of Java. These kind of vulnerabilities are going to start coming harder and faster in the coming years, too.

That's not to say that I think closed source is better, it usually is not. Paid developers don't have the drive or passion to make the best solution. Instead they understandably focus putting out one that's on schedule and meets the minimum requirement so they keep their jobs. Corners get cut and important and difficult things like cryptography and encryption get dialed back to the least difficult option. Security researchers are usually surprised just how bad some things, like user input validation, really are. And that's the tip of the farking iceberg of fail.

Here's the truth of the matter: for me it's less about whether the software is open or closed source and more around the security placed around the development, deployment, use, and maintenance of the systems. At least for me anyway. If you have proper technical controls in place to ensure the voting machines, storage, transport, tabulation, and dispersal are done in a fashion that ensures privacy, integrity, and availability then I'm happy.


my Trezor Model T crypto hardwallet runs open source firmware.  that is one of the reasons i bought it.

i didn't want to have to completely trust a single company to do the right thing.  a single point of failure.

Trezor (Tropic Square) is also designing an Open Source security chip to be used in hard wallets and other security sensitive hardware.

Ledger's security chip is a black box.
 
2022-01-19 9:33:50 AM  

brokenbiscuits: Linux_Yes: the only certainty is that if electronic voting machines are ever to be trusted they'll have to be running an Open Source operating system that has source code freely available for anyone in the world to look at.

Proprietary black box can't see the source code operating systems won't cut it.


...........waiting for black box software fanboys to prove me wrong..............

If we go for open source and get lax, as so many times happens, then we're looking at a big disaster after/during an election. Look at the mess the log4j vulnerability created: I spent two weeks answering questions and chasing down infrastructure with vulnerable versions to earmark for patching or deprecation, and I got off LIGHT because my company doesn't use a ton of Java. These kind of vulnerabilities are going to start coming harder and faster in the coming years, too.

That's not to say that I think closed source is better, it usually is not. Paid developers don't have the drive or passion to make the best solution. Instead they understandably focus putting out one that's on schedule and meets the minimum requirement so they keep their jobs. Corners get cut and important and difficult things like cryptography and encryption get dialed back to the least difficult option. Security researchers are usually surprised just how bad some things, like user input validation, really are. And that's the tip of the farking iceberg of fail.

Here's the truth of the matter: for me it's less about whether the software is open or closed source and more around the security placed around the development, deployment, use, and maintenance of the systems. At least for me anyway. If you have proper technical controls in place to ensure the voting machines, storage, transport, tabulation, and dispersal are done in a fashion that ensures privacy, integrity, and availability then I'm happy.



also, because of NDAs, i like the fact that if any security holes are found in open source software, they can be reported by anyone at anytime without having to worry about violating non disclosure agreements.
 
2022-01-19 9:35:50 AM  

Netrngr: While this guy is a loon of the highest order why does the lawsuit feel like a blatant attempt to grab buckets of money by Smartmatic? To the best of my recollection they haven't lost any sales due to this idiots ramblings since they do not sell to the public and i dont recall hearing about any government agencies returning voting machines and demanding a full refund.
Defamation would require actual damages / injury to the company / party bringing the suit wouldn't it? Also if the crazy pillow man actually believed what he was spewing to be true wouldn't that also have some bearing? Not a lawyer but lawyer things are interesting to me. Just curious.


It's hard to sell voting machines to a government when half of that government's constituents aren't willing to trust the results of your voting machines.
 
2022-01-19 9:38:21 AM  

WheezerTheGeezer: groppet: Muta: Let's complain about the Libs "Virtue Signaling".  "Buy my crap because Jesus and American" and start your schtick by complaining about 'Cancel Culture'.

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When I saw that commercial over Thanksgiving weekend I was in full WTF mode. He even opened the commercial crying about cancel culture, I wish it existed so I would not have to listen to him anymore.

I don't watch RWNJ cable shows as a practice.
Like yourself, I happened to be somewhere over the holidays where this yahoos infomercial was blasting.
Watched for a few minutes out of curiosity.
Alls I could do was shake my head realizing there is a good chunk of the population nodding and reaching for their wallets.
/shaking my head while typing this


Weird thing was I was watching AMC, The Three Amigos in fact which made it even weirder, so glad I cut the cable at home.
 
2022-01-19 9:42:14 AM  
"...for the noble purpose of selling his pillows"

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2022-01-19 9:42:39 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Netrngr: While this guy is a loon of the highest order why does the lawsuit feel like a blatant attempt to grab buckets of money by Smartmatic? To the best of my recollection they haven't lost any sales due to this idiots ramblings since they do not sell to the public and i dont recall hearing about any government agencies returning voting machines and demanding a full refund.
Defamation would require actual damages / injury to the company / party bringing the suit wouldn't it? Also if the crazy pillow man actually believed what he was spewing to be true wouldn't that also have some bearing? Not a lawyer but lawyer things are interesting to me. Just curious.

It's hard to sell voting machines to a government when half of that government's constituents aren't willing to trust the results of your voting machines.



who established that element of distrust over the last 40+ years??

big business money flowing into capital (sic) hill buying Legislation that ignores the rest of the population.   there were approx 1500 lobbyists on capital hill back in 1980.  now there are over 20,000.   they have deep pockets and enjoy helping congress critters write bills and get reelected.

that and the big business owned mass media dividing and conquering this nation with misinformation and propaganda.
 
2022-01-19 9:45:00 AM  

durbnpoisn: [dpoisn.com image 640x535]

About the only real problem I see with this is that they will never be able to actually collect a settlement.  Mr Pillow will be dead or broke by the time this settles.



you do know what Joker did with Mr. Pillow......................
 
2022-01-19 9:46:51 AM  

Sasquach: Linux_Yes: the only certainty is that if electronic voting machines are ever to be trusted they'll have to be running an Open Source operating system that has source code freely available for anyone in the world to look at.

Proprietary black box can't see the source code operating systems won't cut it.


...........waiting for black box software fanboys to prove me wrong..............

There are black box software fanboys? Guess there is a fetish for everyone...(do you secretly want to hate-code with one of them? Or maybe a collaborative "gang code"? Damn son, you're a dirty boy...)



there are plenty out there who think hiding source code from users and the public is a good thing.

after all, its all about the users/customers, right??

not lazy sit at home stock owners.
 
2022-01-19 9:57:16 AM  
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2022-01-19 10:08:42 AM  
This dude is stupid. Networks are dropping him, banks are dropping him, even Trumpers are dropping him. He's blown a fortune on trying to prove a lie that everyone knows is a lie. And for what? If Trump was really worth $5B (he isn't), $25M would be a drop in the bucket. And yet he's spending his money because he's too dense to realize Trump won't waste his resources when morons like Mike exist. Trump has screwed everyonethat's ever worked with him - even family. Mike should be put under conservator ship for his own good.
 
2022-01-19 10:24:47 AM  

starlost: i bought a my pillow and it sucked. i called the support line and they asked what handgun i had under the pillow. i said i didn't have one yet. they recommended several and i'm so happy with my my pillow and gun now. they sent a free copy of the bill of rights and a trumpy bear offer.


Maybe you could start a GoFundMe to buy a keyboard with a working shift key.
 
2022-01-19 10:29:28 AM  

Hey Nurse!: This dude is stupid. Networks are dropping him, banks are dropping him, even Trumpers are dropping him. He's blown a fortune on trying to prove a lie that everyone knows is a lie. And for what? If Trump was really worth $5B (he isn't), $25M would be a drop in the bucket. And yet he's spending his money because he's too dense to realize Trump won't waste his resources when morons like Mike exist. Trump has screwed everyonethat's ever worked with him - even family. Mike should be put under conservator ship for his own good.


At this point and the fact that he is assuredly f$cked in the pending libel cases, Lindell is wasting Dominion and Smartmatic's money, not his own.
 
2022-01-19 10:32:00 AM  

Malenfant: starlost: i bought a my pillow and it sucked. i called the support line and they asked what handgun i had under the pillow. i said i didn't have one yet. they recommended several and i'm so happy with my my pillow and gun now. they sent a free copy of the bill of rights and a trumpy bear offer.

Maybe you could start a GoFundMe to buy a keyboard with a working shift key.


you mean a brand new soft on the fingers myshiftkey.  order online now and use promotion code mike'smustachetickles69 to get the fifty percent discount.
 
2022-01-19 10:40:08 AM  

runwiz: Step 1.  Get 300 million Americans arrested
Step 2.  Get the pillow contract for all US jails and prisons.
Step3.  Profit


What am I missing here, did he advocate getting people arrested for not voting the way he wanted?
 
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