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2022-01-18 1:32:56 PM  
Only 77 COVID deaths in the US for today would be nice compared to this current sh*tshow.

/0 deaths would be even better of course
 
2022-01-18 1:54:37 PM  
COVID is just one of the many things in Australia that is out to kill you.
 
2022-01-18 2:16:37 PM  
Probably mostly comorbidities, like spiders, snakes, and drop bears.
 
2022-01-18 2:17:03 PM  
Yes but did they die of dropbear bites or with dropbear bites?
 
2022-01-18 2:19:44 PM  
Guess that decision to treat Omicron as if it was a common cold is really paying off.
 
2022-01-18 2:20:04 PM  

themindiswatching: Only 77 COVID deaths in the US for today would be nice compared to this current sh*tshow.

/0 deaths would be even better of course


Proportionally, it's like 1000/day for the US, which is pretty significant.
 
2022-01-18 2:21:31 PM  
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2022-01-18 2:22:26 PM  
Welcome to the game, Aussies.

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2022-01-18 2:22:45 PM  
Thanks for the clarification, subby.  I'd thought you meant "Austria".
 
2022-01-18 2:23:30 PM  
farking Djokovic
 
2022-01-18 2:24:43 PM  
Drop Bears kill 77 people an hour.
 
2022-01-18 2:25:56 PM  
A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.
 
2022-01-18 2:27:24 PM  

trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.


I believe the Australian numbers a lot more than the American numbers.
 
2022-01-18 2:30:04 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.

I believe the Australian numbers a lot more than the American numbers.


Our case numbers have always been bogus because out testing efforts are spotty and a massive number of "colds" very much aren't, but I don't think the body count is off by more than a few percent.
 
2022-01-18 2:32:26 PM  

trerro: A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.


Daily counts are never a great tracker for an ongoing trend. Weekends and a holiday on Monday do affect the numbers reported for the US. Our rolling 7-day average is more like 1500 per day. Just look at the graph for daily deaths on your linked page - it looks like a hair comb with frequent and fairly consistent spikes and drops for months.

So Australia's is now in a comparable range, but the US rate is still worse.
 
2022-01-18 2:32:52 PM  
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2022-01-18 2:34:38 PM  

trerro: A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.


Single-day totals don't mean much of anything, especially when you're only looking at the day prior. Those numbers tend to be adjusted up as data comes in late.

The 7-day average in the U.S. is currently at just under 2,000 a day, up from a 70-day average of about 1,300 a day on Jan. 1.
 
2022-01-18 2:35:08 PM  
FTA

Queensland Record 16 COVID Deaths


(3) of the deaths were people in their 70s, (8) in their 80s, (4) in their 90s and one (1)  person who was over 100 years old

So, all 16 were 70+

(10) people were fully vaccinated, (2) had had only one dose and (4) were un-vaccinated

Well that's reassuring.
 
2022-01-18 2:35:46 PM  
But how many die every day from calling Bruce a Sheila and getting a Victoria Bitter can thrown at their head?
 
2022-01-18 2:36:06 PM  

trerro: Tr0mBoNe: trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.

I believe the Australian numbers a lot more than the American numbers.

Our case numbers have always been bogus because out testing efforts are spotty and a massive number of "colds" very much aren't, but I don't think the body count is off by more than a few percent.


Perhaps but they're still fudgeable... "sorry it wasn't covid, they died of heart failure or something else. See, it's right here in the coroners report. "
 
2022-01-18 2:36:47 PM  

OccamsWhiskers: trerro: A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

Daily counts are never a great tracker for an ongoing trend. Weekends and a holiday on Monday do affect the numbers reported for the US. Our rolling 7-day average is more like 1500 per day. Just look at the graph for daily deaths on your linked page - it looks like a hair comb with frequent and fairly consistent spikes and drops for months.

So Australia's is now in a comparable range, but the US rate is still worse.


Bah, I forgot Monday was MLK Day, that's going to make the numbers wonky. Yep, you're right.
 
2022-01-18 2:39:56 PM  

trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.


You're right that, per capita, we're being hit with new infections and deaths at probably the worst rate in the world right now. But that's very largely because we used shutdowns and other measures to essentially eradicate previous breakouts until our vaccination rate got well up into the 80's, it's in the 90's one jab or more for over 16's now. So for the first time we're accepting the spread of COVID in the community without large-scale response, but those infected are still required to quarantine etc. That's literally only happened in the past six weeks or so.

The net result is that not once have our hospitals been overwhelmed, and despite what's going on there's no sense of panic I can detect. The vast majority of folks who are vaccinated have only recently been vaccinated (because our federal government was in charge of acquiring vaccines and that happened wayyyy too slowly but we got there in the end, those guys are farking useless), and now boosters are rolling out quickly.

This is our first real wave. The rest of the world is way in front of us on that front. And within a month or so we expect that to calm down significantly.

77 per day for our population is a large figure, sure. But our total COVID deaths since the pandemic began remain under 3000. Adjusting for population that's like the US having 36 thousand deaths. Instead the US has had well over 20 times that number.
 
2022-01-18 2:42:18 PM  

trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.


Hmm, I think there's a bit more to it than that.

It looks like the US has a weird weekly reporting, and yesterday was one of the days where the reports must not go through, check out this reporting consistency across the weeks.

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I find it difficult to believe COVID has Mondayitis, and builds up for a big Thursday and Friday consistently every week. There's probably systems in place, and people have to review and compile all of the deaths before reporting.

Meanwhile Australia just reports as it happens, likely due to it being easy to report such low numbers:
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If you apply the 7 day rolling average for the US, it puts your regular deaths more around the 1.7k mark, as a few days prior to yesterday you guys had reported nearing 3,000, or triple Australia's new high score:
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2022-01-18 2:49:49 PM  

BunchaRubes: Welcome to the game, Aussies.

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Only showing up in the second half?  Amateurs...

/wishing we were really in the second half of this thing.
 
2022-01-18 2:50:27 PM  

fragMasterFlash: COVID is just one of the many things in Australia that is out to kill you.


Yeah, the competition Down Under is fierce. In the US it's "only" guns and opiates...because the best threats to American life and health are the selfmade ones.
 
2022-01-18 2:51:45 PM  

trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.


This is a covid thread, get out of here with your science and math. Neither side wants to hear it.
 
2022-01-18 2:53:26 PM  

LineNoise: trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.

This is a covid thread, get out of here with your science and math. Neither side wants to hear it.


But their math is misleading at best and is based on misleading data, as they themselves acknowledged later in the thread when it was pointed out to them, so ...
 
2022-01-18 2:54:41 PM  

shoegaze99: But their math is misleading at best and is based on misleading data, as they themselves acknowledged later in the thread when it was pointed out to them, so ...


He forgot it was MLK day yesterday, so he is obviously racist. You are going to trust his math now?
 
2022-01-18 2:59:08 PM  

LineNoise: shoegaze99: But their math is misleading at best and is based on misleading data, as they themselves acknowledged later in the thread when it was pointed out to them, so ...

He forgot it was MLK day yesterday, so he is obviously racist. You are going to trust his math now?


...
...
...

Okay.

That's nice.

Have a nice day.
 
2022-01-18 3:04:13 PM  
So the population of Australia is about twice that of Illinois. Illinois had 36 deaths yesterday, so twice that is 72. Not much of a difference is there?
 
2022-01-18 3:20:46 PM  

BunchaRubes: Welcome to the game, Aussies.

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Novax was only in the country a few days, and look what the selfish twat did.
 
2022-01-18 3:26:44 PM  

LineNoise: farking Djokovic


I came here for this. Did not leave disappointed.
 
2022-01-18 4:59:50 PM  

ImpendingCynic: But how many die every day from calling Bruce a Sheila and getting a Victoria Bitter can thrown at their head?


I think that's the 4th most common cause of death. After dingoes eating babies, snake bites, and drop bears.
 
2022-01-18 5:15:20 PM  

zimbomba63: So the population of Australia is about twice that of Illinois. Illinois had 36 deaths yesterday, so twice that is 72. Not much of a difference is there?


Don't show people who have kept themselves under house arrest for over 2 years math, it will only make them more mad.
 
2022-01-18 5:59:03 PM  

doomjesse: BunchaRubes: Welcome to the game, Aussies.

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Only showing up in the second half?  Amateurs...


Sorry, we thought it was 1941
 
2022-01-18 5:59:33 PM  
How do I keep ending up in this alternate universe where tools smooth, normalize, and comparatively plot data are rare and poorly understood?
 
2022-01-18 6:02:48 PM  

trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.


And their worst day is still better than most of our average days.
 
2022-01-18 6:03:31 PM  
Aussie_As: ....The net result is that not once have our hospitals been overwhelmed, and despite what's going on there's no sense of panic I can detect.

What rock are you living under?

Melbourne's hospitals are in code brown, elective surgery is cancelled everywhere. So, sorry if you were scheduled for a hip replacement, better keep popping those pain pills. If the government wants this to be the new normal it better start building new hospitals now. Lots of them. Good luck finding the people to staff them.

Half the people in ICU are fully vaccinated, so don't depend on the vaccines to save you, they only increase your chances, they don't guarantee survival.

The supermarket shelves are half empty thanks to supply chain issues. At one point KFC even had to close due to having no chicken. How often does that happen?

Articles have been written about the current Clayton's lockdown, or shadow lockdown, in which the sensible people are choosing to stay home as much as they can, because they are trying to avoid being infected. This has left businesses bleating that they haven't any customers, and that it's worse than the lockdowns because then, even though they had no customers, there was some government support with regards to rent or wages.

And actual infection numbers are vastly under-reported thanks to the lack of tests. It appears we are following in the footsteps of some fool who figured if you don't test for it, then it doesn't exist.

This "living with the virus" malarky is more accurately chaos with covid. "Push through" to what exactly? This disease isn't going away.
 
2022-01-18 6:25:51 PM  
Um..... shut down everything mate?
 
2022-01-18 6:36:47 PM  

zimbomba63: So the population of Australia is about twice that of Illinois. Illinois had 36 deaths yesterday, so twice that is 72. Not much of a difference is there?


trerro: A quick Google reveals the entire population of Australia to be 25.7 mil vs 329.5 mil or 1 per every 12.82. If we scale those 77 deaths up by that same multiplier, we get 987 deaths/day if they had the same per capita death rate.

A quick check of this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
reveals that our yesterday death total is 468, which divided by 987, or 47.4% of Australia's per capita total... and given we're doing a terrible job of dealing with this wave, Australia's numbers are absolutely abysmal.

So yeah, that 77 is LOT worse of a number than it looks like in a vacuum.



You are half right, but don't worry no-one expects much of the American education system.

Yes as a single day data point, we may be doing worse than the US per capita.  No-one in Australia is saying this is a good thing, hence the headline news about it being our deadliest day so far.  Whereas in America it really is just a Tuesday.

As soon as you look beyond one day, to just a week or consider the whole pandemic, US deaths per capita are embarrassing compared to Australia.


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Furthermore, I am confident the numbers of deaths reported in Australia are accurate, US numbers not so much.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/12/09/covid-death-count-america-cdc/6435124001/

You may now return to your regularly scheduled "but but island..." excuses.
 
2022-01-18 6:38:56 PM  
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2022-01-18 6:57:26 PM  

doomjesse: BunchaRubes: Welcome to the game, Aussies.

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Only showing up in the second half?  Amateurs...

/wishing we were really in the second half of this thing.


Second half was last year.  Now we're in sudden-death overtime.

/may not be the best analogy
 
2022-01-18 7:05:22 PM  
Here in Hawaii, we keep having to readjust the vertical scale on our graphs every day.  Over 6000 now. Delta wave is starting to look a speed bump.
 
2022-01-18 9:39:04 PM  
We were always going to suffer an increase in deaths when we reopened, but we have two ultra-conservative pro-business politicians in two key areas during the reopening process - the PM and the Premier of NSW, the largest state (which includes Sydney).

Both of them decided to just let it rip so that people could go back to work and enjoy summer.

After two years of lockdowns, sacrifices, not being able to travel, etc to give them time to plan to reopen safely and cautiously, they just threw caution to the wind and let it go.

Result: Hospitals under stress, people got spooked and stayed at home resulting in one of the worst Xmas shopping seasons in recent records, all events are cancelled, massive shortages in supermarkets as critical workers get sick and isolate, no one can find test kits because the numpties didn't order any before reopening...

It's a complete clusterfark.

But still, Australia has been a good place to be during the pandemic, and because the population got vaccinated before reopening, it's still not too bad.

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2022-01-18 10:50:38 PM  
A few days back, NSW had a huge spike in cases and a few days earlier Victoria had a similar spike.  Those pipes are poor data as they include test done in the prior week that were just added to that days total rather than reworking prior days totals.

The PCR test labs were so overloaded they were disposing of samples that were too old.  That has now ended and they are getting caught up.  The home tests get added to the daily totals since they can be reported to the state governments.  The home test result numbers are dropping fast because there just aren't any more tests.  Failing to report a positive test in NSW can result in a $1,000 fine but how are they going to know?

The megachurch that the Prime Minister belongs to seems to have plenty of rapid tests. If I could donate $0.19 via their app, I would since it costs them more than $0.20 in bank fees.
 
2022-01-19 2:08:59 AM  

Nidiot: Aussie_As: ....The net result is that not once have our hospitals been overwhelmed, and despite what's going on there's no sense of panic I can detect.

What rock are you living under?

Melbourne's hospitals are in code brown, elective surgery is cancelled everywhere. So, sorry if you were scheduled for a hip replacement, better keep popping those pain pills. If the government wants this to be the new normal it better start building new hospitals now. Lots of them. Good luck finding the people to staff them.

Half the people in ICU are fully vaccinated, so don't depend on the vaccines to save you, they only increase your chances, they don't guarantee survival.

The supermarket shelves are half empty thanks to supply chain issues. At one point KFC even had to close due to having no chicken. How often does that happen?

Articles have been written about the current Clayton's lockdown, or shadow lockdown, in which the sensible people are choosing to stay home as much as they can, because they are trying to avoid being infected. This has left businesses bleating that they haven't any customers, and that it's worse than the lockdowns because then, even though they had no customers, there was some government support with regards to rent or wages.

And actual infection numbers are vastly under-reported thanks to the lack of tests. It appears we are following in the footsteps of some fool who figured if you don't test for it, then it doesn't exist.

This "living with the virus" malarky is more accurately chaos with covid. "Push through" to what exactly? This disease isn't going away.


Well I'm in Adelaide so perhaps that's by definition living under a rock, but elective surgery cancellations affect a tiny proportion of the community, I'm just back from a pretty full supermarket (although that's not a Woolworths, they seem to be having bigger problems, possibly because they're arseholes to their supply chains, go figure) and a KFC ran out of chicken is now a panic?

You're panicking, very few others are.
 
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