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(Axios)   Vice President Kamala Harris says she's 'not going to absolve' any senator who doesn't take action to pass 'voting rights' legislation. Gives evil eye to Manchin, Sinema   (axios.com) divider line
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2022-01-18 9:57:15 AM  
I didn't know "absolving senators" was one of the official duties of the Senate President. Interesting. Maybe they'll start serving Communion next? Does leadership take turns listening in the confessionals? It would be interesting to confess your sins to Mitch McConnell.
 
2022-01-18 10:02:09 AM  
Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.
 
2022-01-18 10:17:36 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.


But if you do that, they won't support ANY of the Democrats' bills or Biden's initiatives...

Oh, right. Never mind.
 
2022-01-18 10:35:42 AM  
Uh-huh.  I'm sure they're quaking in their boots.
 
2022-01-18 10:38:16 AM  
Oh - speaking of which, does anyone know what happened in that big meeting between Biden, Manchin and Sinema last Friday where Biden was going to change their minds?  What happened?  Was it as I foretold, and they didn't give a shiat what he had to say, or did he actually have some leverage?
 
2022-01-18 10:40:22 AM  
Starting to call any Senator that fails to protect democracy a segregationist and a Jim Crow supporter is needed. A label of segregationist senator sinema etc. in all public references .
 
2022-01-18 11:06:40 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I didn't know "absolving senators" was one of the official duties of the Senate President. Interesting. Maybe they'll start serving Communion next? Does leadership take turns listening in the confessionals? It would be interesting to confess your sins to Mitch McConnell.


I'm sure Mitch McConnell would tell me I'm not sinning enough.  At least, until I used lots of words to describe what I think of him.
 
2022-01-18 11:07:41 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.


Should the Democrats who voted with Republicans against the infrastructure bill also be removed?
 
2022-01-18 11:08:15 AM  
Oh damn, no absolution from the vice president?! Things are really heating up! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to the hospital because my eyes have rolled all the way into the back of my head.
 
2022-01-18 11:09:13 AM  

MrBallou: AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.

But if you do that, they won't support ANY of the Democrats' bills or Biden's initiatives...

Oh, right. Never mind.


THERE MORE DEMOCRATS THEN BERNIE
 
2022-01-18 11:10:04 AM  

MrBallou: AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.

But if you do that, they won't support ANY of the Democrats' bills or Biden's initiatives...

Oh, right. Never mind.


Actually they have voted with Biden more than some "progressives" have.
 
2022-01-18 11:10:34 AM  

eurotrader: Starting to call any Senator that fails to protect democracy a segregationist and a Jim Crow supporter is needed. A label of segregationist senator sinema etc. in all public references .


This. If you're against voting rights then we get to call you a segregationist and a racist.
 
2022-01-18 11:11:02 AM  

Corvus: AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.

Should the Democrats who voted with Republicans against the infrastructure bill also be removed?


Bernie lost. Get over it.
 
2022-01-18 11:11:24 AM  
Those DINO trolls will just double down and go full fascist.
 
2022-01-18 11:12:34 AM  
Like either Sinema or Manchin actually care -- they know the situation. They're on board with the status quo.

For money.
 
2022-01-18 11:13:15 AM  
When asked about what her message to Manchin and Sinema would be, Harris said: "As I've said before, there are a hundred members of the United States Senate, and I'm not going to absolve - nor should any of us - absolve any member of the United States Senate from taking on a responsibility to follow through on the oath that they all took to support and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Given the opportunity to call out Manchin and Sinema directly, her response was to talk about there being 100 senators, and not "absolving" any of them, which... what? You're not doing anything to them now, what do they have to fear from a lack of absolution?

Such brave. Much "finding out."
 
2022-01-18 11:14:08 AM  
Two fasci.   Too Fascist?   "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." -- Republican talking point.

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2022-01-18 11:14:08 AM  
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2022-01-18 11:15:27 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.


There will be no consequences. The DNC were never serious about any of this, it wasn't just Sinema or Manchin either. If there were more Democrats in the Senate I can guarantee you that there'd suddenly be additional Sinemas or Manchins refusing to vote for progressive legislation.
 
2022-01-18 11:15:58 AM  
Exhibit #175 on why the 2022 midterms are so important.
 
2022-01-18 11:15:59 AM  
What about dissolving senators?

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2022-01-18 11:16:30 AM  
And neither will I! To the same effect and of the same consequence.
 
2022-01-18 11:16:46 AM  
Add "voting rights legislation" to the list of things Biden doesn't care about and delegates to his VP.
 
2022-01-18 11:17:41 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Corvus: AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.

Should the Democrats who voted with Republicans against the infrastructure bill also be removed?

Bernie lost. Get over it.


The has nothing to do with that.

Should Democrats who voted against infrastructure also be removed?


Or does this new rule only work for certain people are not everyone?
 
2022-01-18 11:17:45 AM  

ace in your face: eurotrader: Starting to call any Senator that fails to protect democracy a segregationist and a Jim Crow supporter is needed. A label of segregationist senator sinema etc. in all public references .

This. If you're against voting rights then we get to call you a segregationist and a racist.


Call them GLIBERALS.

/you're welcome
 
2022-01-18 11:18:20 AM  
But why won't she FIGHT!!
 
2022-01-18 11:18:36 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I didn't know "absolving senators" was one of the official duties of the Senate President. Interesting. Maybe they'll start serving Communion next? Does leadership take turns listening in the confessionals? It would be interesting to confess your sins to Mitch McConnell.


Okay Manchin, that's three recitations of the declaration of independence and one original bill of rights and you're good to go...
 
2022-01-18 11:18:38 AM  

red230: AdmirableSnackbar: Remove their committee assignments or else you're not serious about any of this. They can either vote to protect the country or Democrats can stop propping them up and catering to them for no reason.

There will be no consequences. The DNC were never serious about any of this, it wasn't just Sinema or Manchin either. If there were more Democrats in the Senate I can guarantee you that there'd suddenly be additional Sinemas or Manchins refusing to vote for progressive legislation.


Ahhh the Manchin Sinema apologists. - "It's not their fault".
 
2022-01-18 11:18:42 AM  
You laugh, but those 2 are no longer invited to the Pot Lucks and no more Birthday cake in the breakroom either.
 
2022-01-18 11:19:11 AM  
Absolve? HAHAHAHA.

You're also not going to do anything other than scream loudly into the void; maybe write a couple of sternly worded letters.

Prove me wrong, Vice President Harris.
 
2022-01-18 11:19:45 AM  

GoldSpider: But why won't she FIGHT!!


Is this fighting?
 
2022-01-18 11:19:57 AM  

red230: There will be no consequences. The DNC were never serious about any of this, it wasn't just Sinema or Manchin either. If there were more Democrats in the Senate I can guarantee you that there'd suddenly be additional Sinemas or Manchins refusing to vote for progressive legislation.


So Democrats are all told how to vote?

So you think the Sanders and the Squad are told how to vote too? The stuff they do is all for "show" and the DNC tells them how to vote?
 
2022-01-18 11:21:06 AM  
What the hell does "not absolve" mean?

Are we talking about an FU telegram and a strongly worded letter to follow? Are we talking actually stripping committee assignments? Are we talking campaign ads to publicly shame them in their own states?

This just sounds like more West Wing politics where people pretend speeches get the job done.
 
2022-01-18 11:21:25 AM  

special20: Those DINO trolls will just double down and go full fascist.


You mean "representative of the Democratic Party" trolls. Let me know when they get censured or otherwise procedurally admonished (other than verbally or through a letter form).
 
2022-01-18 11:21:30 AM  
This thread:

Fark Bros: This is a joke the DNC tells Democrats how to vote on every issue.

me: So that means they tell "progressives" how to vote and what they say is all show just to get votes?

Farki Bros: *smoke bomb*
 
2022-01-18 11:21:56 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I didn't know "absolving senators" was one of the official duties of the Senate President. Interesting. Maybe they'll start serving Communion next? Does leadership take turns listening in the confessionals? It would be interesting to confess your sins to Mitch McConnell.


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2022-01-18 11:23:09 AM  

misanthropicsob: special20: Those DINO trolls will just double down and go full fascist.

You mean "representative of the Democratic Party" trolls. Let me know when they get censured or otherwise procedurally admonished (other than verbally or through a letter form).



You have said you oppose these bills yourself.
 
2022-01-18 11:24:34 AM  
What sort of bizaro world do when live in when the same farkers who said they OPPOSE Biden's agenda and it was "dogshiat" now say Democrats are not being punished enough for not supporting it.
 
2022-01-18 11:25:08 AM  
Haha okay.  I'm sure they're craving absolution from you.
 
2022-01-18 11:25:42 AM  

Corvus: This thread:

Fark Bros: This is a joke the DNC tells Democrats how to vote on every issue.

me: So that means they tell "progressives" how to vote and what they say is all show just to get votes?

Farki Bros: *smoke bomb*


Can we have THAT thread again?  That one way back from yesterday?
 
2022-01-18 11:26:58 AM  
Fark bros months ago: The Biden agenda is DOG SHIAT and needs to be opposed!! All it will do is make Democrats lose seat.

Fark Bros now: Why won't Democrats support the Biden Agenda harder and punish those against it.
 
2022-01-18 11:28:10 AM  

Corvus: Fark bros months ago: The Biden agenda is DOG SHIAT and needs to be opposed!! All it will do is make Democrats lose seat.

Fark Bros now: Why won't Democrats support the Biden Agenda harder and punish those against it.


I'm also laughing at the "Manchin and Sinema need to be FORCED to vote for this or else take away everything from them!! Also, AOC and Omar should refuse to vote for this bill because it doesn't give us everything we want!!"
 
2022-01-18 11:28:21 AM  

GoldSpider: Corvus: This thread:

Fark Bros: This is a joke the DNC tells Democrats how to vote on every issue.

me: So that means they tell "progressives" how to vote and what they say is all show just to get votes?

Farki Bros: *smoke bomb*

Can we have THAT thread again?  That one way back from yesterday?


Yes we can.

It's on a loop...
 
2022-01-18 11:29:14 AM  

Elliot8654: Corvus: Fark bros months ago: The Biden agenda is DOG SHIAT and needs to be opposed!! All it will do is make Democrats lose seat.

Fark Bros now: Why won't Democrats support the Biden Agenda harder and punish those against it.

I'm also laughing at the "Manchin and Sinema need to be FORCED to vote for this or else take away everything from them!! Also, AOC and Omar should refuse to vote for this bill because it doesn't give us everything we want!!"


Yes they already said they were ok with others voting against BBB - they have already said that in other threads.
 
2022-01-18 11:30:34 AM  

Peki: What the hell does "not absolve" mean?

Are we talking about an FU telegram and a strongly worded letter to follow? Are we talking actually stripping committee assignments? Are we talking campaign ads to publicly shame them in their own states?

This just sounds like more West Wing politics where people pretend speeches get the job done.


I would like to think it means the Democratic party will aggressively target GQP candidates in the midterms and invest a lot of time and money into trying to turn more seats blue.

All of the 100 Senators bear responsibility for improving access to voting; that's what Harris seems to be saying by suggesting that it's up to more people than the 2 attention-seeking dopes in the Dem caucus who think that if we just give in to the Republicans enough, they'll stop beating us.
 
2022-01-18 11:32:01 AM  

Peki: This just sounds like more West Wing politics where people pretend speeches get the job done.


Where we all know TWEETS really get things done. *eyeroll*
 
2022-01-18 11:34:28 AM  

Corvus: Fark bros months ago: The Biden agenda is DOG SHIAT and needs to be opposed!! All it will do is make Democrats lose seat.

Fark Bros now: Why won't Democrats support the Biden Agenda harder and punish those against it.


What agenda?!?
 
2022-01-18 11:35:41 AM  
I'd love to give that threat some attention, but I've got something more serious going on.  I've got a little kid threatening to hold their breath until I do what they want.
 
2022-01-18 11:36:08 AM  
Nothing is gonna happen.
 
2022-01-18 11:37:14 AM  
I find it very bothersome that SO much of this country NEEDs this.  So many of THEIR supporters NEED and WANT this.  The entire party is telling them as much.  Yesterday was loaded with speeches and events all detailing what it was that MLK was trying to say - and singled these two out for being the only remaining reason why we can begin to fix those problems. And they STILL refuse to budge.

This is why I say there must be some truly dirty shiat in their current life.  There is just no way any normal thinking person stonewalls the will of the entire country AND their party unless there is a gotdamned good reason for it.

Yes, I am suggesting that there must be some payoff here.  And perhaps finding and revealing that will get them to change their minds.  Because no other amount of solid reasoning seems to be having any effect at all.

I don't pray.  But I am right now.
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Please, may these two idiots dislodge their heads from their asses and make the right decision.  The one that the WHOLE FARKING COUNTRY wants them to make!
 
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