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(NPR)   Watchdog group that apparently specializes in making making obvious predictions forecast that the Afghan air force would utterly collapse soon after an American withdrawal, which it did. Way to make the tough call, guys   (npr.org) divider line
    More: Obvious, Taliban, Afghanistan, Afghan air force, International Security Assistance Force, Kandahar, U.S.'s complete withdrawal, Mujahideen, Taliban insurgents  
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2022-01-18 9:40:41 AM  
Your average thread poster predicted as much YEARS ago right here on Fark.
 
2022-01-18 11:36:21 AM  
"Most of the planes are back on the ground. They cannot fly and most of them are out of ammunition," he said.

No bullets, so point to poor training of maintenance crew.  "Yes you have to put ammo in them".
 
2022-01-18 12:03:45 PM  
Subby said making twice.

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2022-01-18 12:04:34 PM  
neocons never shut up do they?
 
2022-01-18 12:05:28 PM  

Nocrash: "Most of the planes are back on the ground. They cannot fly and most of them are out of ammunition," he said.

No bullets, so point to poor training of maintenance crew.  "Yes you have to put ammo in them".


Well, they can't put bullets in if there aren't any, I think is the point.
 
2022-01-18 12:06:43 PM  
It was the Captain Obvious take.

FFS, Iran, a vastly more developed country than Afghanistan, could barely keep the US planes that it had in their inventory operating effectively.
 
2022-01-18 12:07:36 PM  
"I predict unrest in Afghanistan."

Valid for the last, uh... well, forever really.
 
2022-01-18 12:08:08 PM  
If after almost 20 years they weren't ready or willing then there's no good reason to think they would have been ready after 30, 40 or 50 years.

The more that comes out of this the clearer it is that everybody in the government and military knew the whole time that the "nation building" was a sham but nobody wanted to have to admit to throwing trillions of dollars and thousands of lives into a hole they had no real plan for how to get out of.

Somebody needed to pull the plug. Better now than continue the charade and send another generation of young men and women over to get periodically killed and maimed and end up in the same place anyway.
 
2022-01-18 12:08:36 PM  
How is this even news?  There are dozens of articles that said the same thing when it happened.

It was always going to happen, whether we did it 10 years ago, last year, or 20 more years in the future.

Aside from those we farked over in Afghanistan, nobody is saying we should still be there.
 
2022-01-18 12:09:55 PM  
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2022-01-18 12:12:55 PM  
 
2022-01-18 12:13:56 PM  
Money might have been better spend building roads, irrigation and maybe sewage. But the contracts would have been smaller. Oh well.
 
2022-01-18 12:14:17 PM  

Target Builder: If after almost 20 years they weren't ready or willing then there's no good reason to think they would have been ready after 30, 40 or 50 years.

The more that comes out of this the clearer it is that everybody in the government and military knew the whole time that the "nation building" was a sham but nobody wanted to have to admit to throwing trillions of dollars and thousands of lives into a hole they had no real plan for how to get out of.

Somebody needed to pull the plug. Better now than continue the charade and send another generation of young men and women over to get periodically killed and maimed and end up in the same place anyway.


I think it's a little more complicated in that it isn't just "they weren't ready or willing to fight." We supported a lot of Really Bad Guys over there because they were purportedly enemies of our enemies.

That being said, yeah. The choices were keep doing this or leave. Leave was the right answer.
 
2022-01-18 12:15:37 PM  
Whereas if they were a responsible air force, they'd be flying and crashing those planes and buying more.  Not very responsible consumers.
 
2022-01-18 12:17:28 PM  

Dafatone: Target Builder: If after almost 20 years they weren't ready or willing then there's no good reason to think they would have been ready after 30, 40 or 50 years.

The more that comes out of this the clearer it is that everybody in the government and military knew the whole time that the "nation building" was a sham but nobody wanted to have to admit to throwing trillions of dollars and thousands of lives into a hole they had no real plan for how to get out of.

Somebody needed to pull the plug. Better now than continue the charade and send another generation of young men and women over to get periodically killed and maimed and end up in the same place anyway.

I think it's a little more complicated in that it isn't just "they weren't ready or willing to fight." We supported a lot of Really Bad Guys over there because they were purportedly enemies of our enemies.

That being said, yeah. The choices were keep doing this or leave, or do the moral thing and liquidate the entire conservative nation like the cancer conservatives are. Leave was the cowards answer.


Ftfy
 
2022-01-18 12:17:42 PM  
I thought it was great how we had all these "why we failed" stories, AFTER we were out, from people who'd known all this shiat for years, but for some reason nobody paid any attention to them.
After I listened to a few of these people who really had the skinny, we looked even worse than we did just from the outside performance.  Monumental clusterfark from beginning to end.
 
2022-01-18 12:19:10 PM  
Nation that can't feed itself can't maintain fleet foreign-gifted fleet of foreign made vehicles that require foreign imported fuel and foreign imported parts with foreign imported munitions and foreign imported know-how to operate.

Ric Romero has more at 11.
 
2022-01-18 12:31:22 PM  

Munden: How is this even news?  There are dozens of articles that said the same thing when it happened.

It was always going to happen, whether we did it 10 years ago, last year, or 20 more years in the future.

Aside from those we farked over in Afghanistan, nobody is saying we should still be there.


Military contractors are people too!
 
2022-01-18 12:52:40 PM  
Well, now that it's the Taliban Air Force then not being able to fly is a good thing, ammiright?
 
2022-01-18 1:00:05 PM  
Well, it sure as shiat surprised someone.

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2022-01-18 1:02:58 PM  
The point of war is to move billions of your taxes into the hands of the wealthy, either thru weapons, private armies or nation building. It was never about making iraq/vietnam/afghanistan/etc safe for people or installing more democracy.
The military-industrial complex is working as designed.
 
2022-01-18 1:03:18 PM  
Well, I'm fairly certain we TRIED to teach them how to maintain and train, but most of the military members were there simply for the paycheck, smoked weed on the job, and put in 0.05% effort with the expectation that their American step parents would always be there to bail them out.

Afghan army = spoiled rich kid from affluent neighborhood
 
2022-01-18 1:05:49 PM  

Promo Sapien: Well, I'm fairly certain we TRIED to teach them how to maintain and train, but most of the military members were there simply for the paycheck, smoked weed on the job, and put in 0.05% effort with the expectation that their American step parents would always be there to bail them out.

Afghan army = spoiled rich kid from affluent neighborhood


Nope, we didn't train maintenance crews for anything. Not planes, not armor - it was all done by contractors paid by the US.

As we left, we took domestic contractors. Money stopped, and foreign contractors GTFO'd.
 
2022-01-18 1:41:38 PM  

Dafatone: Target Builder: If after almost 20 years they weren't ready or willing then there's no good reason to think they would have been ready after 30, 40 or 50 years.

The more that comes out of this the clearer it is that everybody in the government and military knew the whole time that the "nation building" was a sham but nobody wanted to have to admit to throwing trillions of dollars and thousands of lives into a hole they had no real plan for how to get out of.

Somebody needed to pull the plug. Better now than continue the charade and send another generation of young men and women over to get periodically killed and maimed and end up in the same place anyway.

I think it's a little more complicated in that it isn't just "they weren't ready or willing to fight." We supported a lot of Really Bad Guys over there because they were purportedly enemies of our enemies.

That being said, yeah. The choices were keep doing this or leave. Leave was the right answer.


Nah the purpose was to make money and train future employees of corporations on the tax payers dime.
 
2022-01-18 1:47:46 PM  

dothemath: ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Well, it sure as shiat surprised someone.

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Tough words coming from someone who worships a child molester.

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Wut?

Or is this a since I don't worship biden, I must be a trumhumper?
 
2022-01-18 1:54:08 PM  

dothemath: ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Well, it sure as shiat surprised someone.

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Tough words coming from someone who worships a child molester.

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Oh, and:

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2022-01-18 3:24:01 PM  
Are their satellite launching capabilities still ok?
 
2022-01-18 6:42:22 PM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: dothemath: ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Well, it sure as shiat surprised someone.

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Tough words coming from someone who worships a child molester.

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Oh, and:

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Anyone else feel it's weird that in a country of over 300 million these 2 idiot were the best we could come up with?

Oh and back on topic, that poster that posted after this post was right about what was said in that post.
 
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