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672 clicks; posted to Business » on 18 Jan 2022 at 10:50 AM (30 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2022-01-18 11:59:28 AM  
4 votes:
If only the airlines and the FAA could have foreseen this and taken action before now........
 
2022-01-18 5:37:17 PM  
3 votes:

jack_o_the_hills: zgrizz: jack_o_the_hills: If only the airlines and the FAA could have foreseen this and taken action before now........

They have been warning about this for a very long time. Verizon, AT&T and TMobile have fought them tooth and nail.

When a plane crashes (a very real possibility if you take the time to read what the worry is) you can feel good that you have great ping times in Fortnite.

You do know the FAA, when asked back as far back as 2012, and again in 2017, if these frequencies would cause issues, gave guidance that there would not be a problem, and the airlines and the others at the FFA who I guess thought there was a problem chose to do nothing, because it would cut into the stock buyback money of the airlines, right?  40 other countries have rolled out 5G C band near airports and there have been no aircraft issues- even with good ol' US American based aircraft flying in and out of those countries. Some countries, like Japan, operate at frequencies much closer together than what we use here in the USA. No issues. The FFA even admitted in November that no proven issues have ever been reported by aircraft operating where the frequencies in question are coming of equipment/towers near any airport. This is nothing but a regulatory power grab attempt in a political war between the FAA and FCC that's been going on for over a decade. No planes are going to crash over this, calm down.


That's because if you read between the lines what the airlines are saying is they have some old planes that might not tolerate the signal and they don't want to spend the money to fix it.
 
2022-01-18 9:30:05 AM  
2 votes:
The airplane manufacturers say this isn't safe. The airlines say this isn't safe. The FAA says it isn't safe. So, of course, in the era of "Dr. Fauci is just an opinionated quack," we'll get all kinds of internet experts telling us not to worry, it'll be fine. Ignoring expertise is the biggest epidemic this country faces.

Things will be fine because the FAA will put out restrictions so the hazards are avoided. Said restrictions will mean delays and cost the airlines (and you) money, but at least you'll have a good cell signal to play games while you wait.
 
2022-01-18 2:51:33 PM  
2 votes:

zgrizz: jack_o_the_hills: If only the airlines and the FAA could have foreseen this and taken action before now........

They have been warning about this for a very long time. Verizon, AT&T and TMobile have fought them tooth and nail.

When a plane crashes (a very real possibility if you take the time to read what the worry is) you can feel good that you have great ping times in Fortnite.


You do know the FAA, when asked back as far back as 2012, and again in 2017, if these frequencies would cause issues, gave guidance that there would not be a problem, and the airlines and the others at the FFA who I guess thought there was a problem chose to do nothing, because it would cut into the stock buyback money of the airlines, right?  40 other countries have rolled out 5G C band near airports and there have been no aircraft issues- even with good ol' US American based aircraft flying in and out of those countries. Some countries, like Japan, operate at frequencies much closer together than what we use here in the USA. No issues. The FFA even admitted in November that no proven issues have ever been reported by aircraft operating where the frequencies in question are coming of equipment/towers near any airport. This is nothing but a regulatory power grab attempt in a political war between the FAA and FCC that's been going on for over a decade. No planes are going to crash over this, calm down.
 
2022-01-18 6:34:54 PM  
2 votes:
The airlines are correct.  All the countries that installed 5G towers have had...let me check...oh, zero issues with the exact same plane models.
 
2022-01-18 7:08:43 PM  
2 votes:

jack_o_the_hills: zgrizz: jack_o_the_hills: If only the airlines and the FAA could have foreseen this and taken action before now........

They have been warning about this for a very long time. Verizon, AT&T and TMobile have fought them tooth and nail.

When a plane crashes (a very real possibility if you take the time to read what the worry is) you can feel good that you have great ping times in Fortnite.

You do know the FAA, when asked back as far back as 2012, and again in 2017, if these frequencies would cause issues, gave guidance that there would not be a problem, and the airlines and the others at the FFA who I guess thought there was a problem chose to do nothing, because it would cut into the stock buyback money of the airlines, right?  40 other countries have rolled out 5G C band near airports and there have been no aircraft issues- even with good ol' US American based aircraft flying in and out of those countries. Some countries, like Japan, operate at frequencies much closer together than what we use here in the USA. No issues. The FFA even admitted in November that no proven issues have ever been reported by aircraft operating where the frequencies in question are coming of equipment/towers near any airport. This is nothing but a regulatory power grab attempt in a political war between the FAA and FCC that's been going on for over a decade. No planes are going to crash over this, calm down.


We don't look to other countries to see what the results of our action or inaction might be.  That's preposterous - comparing foreign denizens to Americans just doesn't work because we're different, chosen by God as his light bearer on earth.  Next thing you'll suggest is we use other nations national health insurance models as an example.*

If the two largest airplane manufacturers are linking arms, this is about saving money, full stop.

/*Germany's system of would actually be a good model for how the U.S. system could evolve - choice of public or private, shared costs between employer and employee, safety net for the poor, opt out and pay for private services for the wealthy.  There are a variety of models (single payer, multi-payer, Bismarck, Beveridge, or the HSA with catastrophic insurance model used in SIngapore).
//but this is an airplane thread
///so I'll stop the threadjack
 
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