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(CBS News)   For minors do you need a note signed by your parent or guardian to be granted immunity in a federal criminal case? Asking for a friend in Florida   (cbsnews.com) divider line
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2022-01-17 7:36:55 PM  
It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.
 
2022-01-17 7:37:37 PM  
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2022-01-17 7:39:25 PM  
I don't think it means anything, Federal Prosecutors just hand out immunity to anyone walking down the street.

/s
 
2022-01-17 7:39:48 PM  
As the link points out, the federal government doesn't generally grant immunity easily. If they do that, they know they're getting something very useful.
 
2022-01-17 7:41:25 PM  
I bet he's regretting that decision to blow her off at the homecoming dance a whole lot more now.
 
2022-01-17 7:42:00 PM  
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2022-01-17 7:43:26 PM  

neapoi: It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.


GasPedo is a freshman representative who has been living off his Daddy's credit cards for his entire adult life.
I think you're overestimating his influence.
 
2022-01-17 7:43:44 PM  

EnzoTheCoder: I bet he's regretting that decision to blow her off at the homecoming dance a whole lot more now.


I can't blame him, because Heather from Social Studies passed him a note that said she totally saw her with Ferria at the 31 Flavors.
 
2022-01-17 7:45:15 PM  

neapoi: It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.


Who, Gaetz?  As long as they don't stick him in general population as part of sentencing he'll be fine.
 
2022-01-17 7:45:27 PM  
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2022-01-17 7:45:35 PM  
This story and the last one remind me of the LPU in scientific papers-- the Least Publishable Unit to write a paper on, to maximize number of papers and hopefully get tenure. 1st she testifies to grand jury, but no info because those proceedings are secret. A few days later, this story about her immunity. 2 stories, 2 facts.

Annoying to me, but the drip-drip-drip must be getting to that tool Gaetz. I imagine him vaping his face off, compulsively refreshing a news search for his name like Zuckerberg at the end of The Social Network because he's never heard of Google alerts. Hee hee
 
2022-01-17 7:45:54 PM  
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2022-01-17 7:46:03 PM  

neapoi: It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.


I don't think Matt Gaetz has "disappear a witness" juice. He's out there in front of the cameras spouting nonsense with Marjorie Taylor Green a lot, but he's pretty much just a clumsy bonehead rich kid from Florida who may have finally out-crimed his family's money & political influence with all this federal sex crime business.

Here's hopin'.
 
2022-01-17 7:47:17 PM  
For a split second, I thought this was a vaccine story. After RTFA, I hope it's far more interesting and entertaining.
 
2022-01-17 7:49:26 PM  

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2022-01-17 7:50:06 PM  
Matt Gaetz and Prince Andrew are right now exchanging legal advice.
 
2022-01-17 7:50:37 PM  
Be proud, Florida.

Be proud, America.
 
2022-01-17 7:52:11 PM  

stoli n coke: neapoi: It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.

GasPedo is a freshman representative who has been living off his Daddy's credit cards for his entire adult life.
I think you're overestimating his influence.


Do you have a private definition of a Freshman Representative?
 
2022-01-17 7:52:49 PM  
She called it

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2022-01-17 7:54:02 PM  

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Beep beep, who got the keys to the Jeep? Vroooom.
 
2022-01-17 7:55:05 PM  

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careful, Kermit. Matt likes to take his playdates to puppet shows.
 
2022-01-17 7:55:26 PM  
Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.
 
2022-01-17 7:56:39 PM  
The winds of shiat are whispering something lately, something vaguely optimistic.
 
2022-01-17 7:57:04 PM  
Was the agreement signed "Epstein's mother"?
 
2022-01-17 7:58:21 PM  

UltimaCS: Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.


Weird is in the eye of the beholder. We're looking for illegal and actionable.
 
2022-01-17 7:58:49 PM  
Who will look out for Nestor now?
 
2022-01-17 7:59:18 PM  

austerity101: As the link points out, the federal government doesn't generally grant immunity easily. If they do that, they know they're getting something very useful.


Transactional immunity. If they're just granting use and derivative use immunity they could just be breaking the fifth.
 
2022-01-17 7:59:22 PM  

indylaw: Who will look out for Nestor now?


No one cares for Nestor...
 
2022-01-17 7:59:54 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: UltimaCS: Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.

Weird is in the eye of the beholder. We're looking for illegal and actionable.


If the feds have granted immunity from prosecution to his ex-girlfriend, that means they think they got something of value.
 
2022-01-17 7:59:56 PM  
The pardon from the about to be reinstalled president is on the way!
 
2022-01-17 8:00:32 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: UltimaCS: Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.

Weird is in the eye of the beholder. We're looking for illegal and actionable.


There's a big jump between "illegal" and "actionable" when it comes to politicians. It's not like he admitted on a hot mic that he would regularly bust in on teens getting dressed.
 
2022-01-17 8:01:32 PM  

wademh: stoli n coke: neapoi: It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.

GasPedo is a freshman representative who has been living off his Daddy's credit cards for his entire adult life.
I think you're overestimating his influence.

Do you have a private definition of a Freshman Representative?


Word is the red shirts don't make it through the term.
 
2022-01-17 8:02:49 PM  
How do I get one of these unqualified "stay out of jail free" cards? Asking for myself.
 
2022-01-17 8:03:38 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: neapoi: It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.

I don't think Matt Gaetz has "disappear a witness" juice. He's out there in front of the cameras spouting nonsense with Marjorie Taylor Green a lot, but he's pretty much just a clumsy bonehead rich kid from Florida who may have finally out-crimed his family's money & political influence with all this federal sex crime business.

Here's hopin'.


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Depending on the exact nature of her testimony, Grand Jury testimony can be used at trial if it meets certain additional requirements to breech the hearsay exceptions. Essentially, there needs to be some independent corroboration. In this case, the facts of the various trips taken, the facts of payments made, and additional witness testimony would almost certainly be enough. Even if he did "silence" a witness, it wouldn't do him any good.
 
2022-01-17 8:04:03 PM  
This happies me so much!
 
2022-01-17 8:04:44 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: UltimaCS: Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.

Weird is in the eye of the beholder. We're looking for illegal and actionable.


Yeah, in what world is that normal? Besides L.A., Vegas, Manhattan, parts of Florida. . .
 
2022-01-17 8:05:02 PM  
What do you suppose she did that she would need immunity from?
 
2022-01-17 8:08:04 PM  

stoli n coke: neapoi: It's hard for me to believe this poor kid is gonna live clear through to the trial.

GasPedo is a freshman representative who has been living off his Daddy's credit cards for his entire adult life.
I think you're overestimating his influence.


I think it is more a comment that Gaspedal has a proven record of friends in low places, and loose accounting principles.
 
2022-01-17 8:08:28 PM  

indylaw: Barricaded Gunman: UltimaCS: Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.

Weird is in the eye of the beholder. We're looking for illegal and actionable.

If the feds have granted immunity from prosecution to his ex-girlfriend, that means they think they got something of value.


It is normally a not "think" situation. Before immunity is given there is in most cases a requirement of a proffer under a "queen for a day" proffer letter where the person who is trying to get immunity must spill the beans and spell out what their testimony will be.
 
2022-01-17 8:09:03 PM  

GoldSpider: What do you suppose she did that she would need immunity from?


Angry republicans.
 
2022-01-17 8:12:33 PM  
Just another minor issue for Gaetz ..
 
2022-01-17 8:12:40 PM  

Phaedrus the Vague: Barricaded Gunman: UltimaCS: Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.

Weird is in the eye of the beholder. We're looking for illegal and actionable.

Yeah, in what world is that normal? Besides L.A., Vegas, Manhattan, parts of Florida. . .


I'm not saying it's normal behavior, I'm saying it isn't, in and of itself, criminal behavior.
 
2022-01-17 8:12:47 PM  
Epstein's mother was in the Witness Protection program, too.
 
2022-01-17 8:14:39 PM  

Bootleg: I don't think it means anything, Federal Prosecutors just hand out immunity to anyone walking down the street.

/s


Phht.  A ham sandwich could get immunity in NY.
 
2022-01-17 8:17:04 PM  

GoldSpider: What do you suppose she did that she would need immunity from?


Participate in the sex, or at least not report prostitution was going on.

The only problem I see now, if she has immunity then what's to stop her from perjury on the witness stand?

I hope Matt Gaetz has never left the toilet seat down.
 
2022-01-17 8:19:34 PM  
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2022-01-17 8:20:27 PM  
Oh, Ginger. Ginger, Ginger, Ginger.

If I was you, I'd be on the phone to a divorce lawyer, a criminal lawyer, and a publishing house. In that order.

Clean him out while there's something still to grab.
 
2022-01-17 8:23:18 PM  

GoldSpider: What do you suppose she did that she would need immunity from?


The clap...and probably gonorrhea.
 
2022-01-17 8:23:41 PM  

UltimaCS: Multiple sources told CBS News that the ex-girlfriend and the other woman traveled to the Bahamas with Gaetz in 2018, along with a third woman with whom Gaetz was in a sexual relationship. That third woman was 18 at the time of the Bahamas trip, but investigators are also looking into whether she was 17 when the sexual relationship began.

Because there's nothing weird about 2 teens going on an international trip with a 36 year old that's literally twice their age.


And who sends them thousands of dollars through Venmo with hilariously fake subject lines.
 
2022-01-17 8:24:57 PM  
Use the A/V room and stream yourself into the courtroom.

If required, have an officer of the court present in the A/V room.
 
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