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2022-01-16 10:16:33 PM  
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2022-01-16 10:31:06 PM  
Is this that alternate dimension brought about by the Cubs winning in 2016?
 
2022-01-16 10:51:49 PM  

meatwhistle: Is this that alternate dimension brought about by the Cubs winning in 2016?


yes.
 
2022-01-16 10:58:23 PM  

meatwhistle: Is this that alternate dimension brought about by the Cubs winning in 2016?


Yes. But the annihilation of the Patriots last night may be a sign the rift is closing.
 
2022-01-16 11:02:16 PM  
Yes and?
 
2022-01-16 11:02:52 PM  
This treason connect the dots map is looking much clearer lately.
 
2022-01-16 11:04:09 PM  
I read it this morning and I HATE THIS TIMELINE!

Which brings a question: Was he always capable of toggling his evil off?
Either way he's still a PNAC POS.
 
2022-01-16 11:49:02 PM  
All of these neocons, *all* of them, know exactly what they're doing.  They know that all they have to do is be anti-Trump, and our side of the media will give them a hug and a seat at the table.  It's a way to regain status after disgracing themselves, and it has been very effective so far.

The left hand side of the media is full of people who can repeat this from an MSNBC report, have at least as much credibility as Kristol, and don't have his baggage.  Get this guy out of the studio.

Welcoming this guy, and Frum, and a hundred other security state veterans into the studio is how you end up killing Biden for withdrawing from Afghanistan.  And I promise you that this crowd is soon going to go back to pushing for war, likely beginning with Iran.

And all they had to do was repeat stuff about Trump that millions of other people are saying.  There's no one on earth who hears Kristol, Frum, Brennan, Clapper and thinks "well if they're saying it, it's super credible!  Must be true!" Except for people who want to believe it, and would believe it just as much if you had a decent person say it.

Nothing to gain and much to lose by lending status and air time to media-homeless neocons and security state refugees.
 
2022-01-17 4:38:31 AM  
Thanks for putting this up, subby. Bill blocked me back about Halloween.
I can't imagine why.
 
2022-01-17 4:53:46 AM  
I thought 2016 broke the 'Bill Kristol is always wrong' rule.
 
2022-01-17 5:03:49 AM  
I actually don't understand what he said. Nor do I understand his conclusion. Mind you I'm not a fan of Mr. Trump, but that was a bit of a word salad and I'm in the mood for blood.
 
2022-01-17 5:05:21 AM  

meatwhistle: Is this that alternate dimension brought about by the Cubs winning in 2016?


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2022-01-17 5:11:37 AM  

Valter: I actually don't understand what he said. Nor do I understand his conclusion. Mind you I'm not a fan of Mr. Trump, but that was a bit of a word salad and I'm in the mood for blood.


He basically accused Yrump of seditious conspiracy without saying seditious conspiracy.
 
2022-01-17 5:14:08 AM  

meatwhistle: Is this that alternate dimension brought about by the Cubs winning in 2016?


lur?
 
2022-01-17 5:15:32 AM  
I don't think Trump is bright enough to be the leader of this conspiracy. This is a man who looks directly at the sun during an eclipse. This is a man who lost money running a casino.
 
2022-01-17 5:18:44 AM  
While I don't follow him 100%, I can honestly say I haven't had to disagree with him often these past 4 years. Seemed to be a pretty staunch critic of Trump and Republicans.

Prior to that, I don't know.
 
2022-01-17 5:20:19 AM  

fastfxr: While I don't follow him 100%, I can honestly say I haven't had to disagree with him often these past 4 years. Seemed to be a pretty staunch critic of Trump and Republicans.

Prior to that, I don't know.


Well, he did choose Sarah Palin for McCain's VP slot.
 
2022-01-17 5:23:53 AM  
"Liberal" media fall all over themselves giving these mea culpa Neo cons air time, crowding out actual progressives. Any time Biden gives a speech MSNBC and CNN always put a microphone on a Republican and ask their point of view. This is why there's this interminable "is Biden failing" tack.

I swear if America loses Democracy it will be in a large part the media's fault.

And I don't trust any of these war apologists and president Obama bashers.

The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
 
2022-01-17 5:27:12 AM  

vernonFL: I don't think Trump is bright enough to be the leader of this conspiracy. This is a man who looks directly at the sun during an eclipse. This is a man who lost money running a casino.


To be fair, this conspiracy is incredibly stupid.
 
2022-01-17 5:29:21 AM  
It's farking hilarious how this massive conspiracy involved so much time, so many people with infinite resources at their disposal including the most powerful man in the world, across the entire country, culminating in an actual violent seige at the Capitol building by thousands of deranged yet useful idiots...

...and it still failed epically on every level.

Dumbasses.

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2022-01-17 5:46:42 AM  

meatwhistle: Is this that alternate dimension brought about by the Cubs winning in 2016?


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2022-01-17 5:53:07 AM  

Raoul Eaton: Valter: I actually don't understand what he said. Nor do I understand his conclusion. Mind you I'm not a fan of Mr. Trump, but that was a bit of a word salad and I'm in the mood for blood.

He basically accused Yrump of seditious conspiracy without saying seditious conspiracy.


Given this info - I guess we learned where Bill Barr's line in the sand was.
 
2022-01-17 5:54:28 AM  
I saw an interview conducted by Ari Melber on The Beat with Bill Kristol and Fat Joe the rapper. They got along well and it was surreal. I think Bill has the selective chameleonic ability to dial up or down his 'conservativism' given the situation.
 
2022-01-17 5:56:52 AM  

Skeleton Man: It's farking hilarious how this massive conspiracy involved so much time, so many people with infinite resources at their disposal including the most powerful man in the world, across the entire country, culminating in an actual violent seige at the Capitol building by thousands of deranged yet useful idiots...

...and it still failed epically on every level.

Dumbasses.

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Who knew permanent residency inside the bubble where Trump isn't a complete, paste-eating moron would cause one's base critical thinking skills to take a back seat?

Vid'ing signing the known forged documents?  It's so mind-blowingling short-sighted...yet it 1,000% failed Trump logic.

The terrifying part is the smart people are taking notes where Trump failed and won't make those mistakes again.
 
2022-01-17 6:09:28 AM  

vernonFL: I don't think Trump is bright enough to be the leader of this conspiracy. This is a man who looks directly at the sun during an eclipse. This is a man who lost money running a casino.


He didn't "lose" a penny. He just under-reported what he made by several factors, and then wrote off the losses on his tax returns. The Casino was just a money laundering operation for the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs, and his buddies in the Mafia. Much of the purported "losses" on the Casino were direct cash loans to himself and his kids, which were then transferred to one of his fly-by-night real estate operations which then quietly closed out without so much as a peep because the "investors" were all himself and his kids.
 
2022-01-17 6:11:19 AM  

BeatrixK: Skeleton Man: It's farking hilarious how this massive conspiracy involved so much time, so many people with infinite resources at their disposal including the most powerful man in the world, across the entire country, culminating in an actual violent seige at the Capitol building by thousands of deranged yet useful idiots...

...and it still failed epically on every level.

Dumbasses.

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Who knew permanent residency inside the bubble where Trump isn't a complete, paste-eating moron would cause one's base critical thinking skills to take a back seat?

Vid'ing signing the known forged documents?  It's so mind-blowingling short-sighted...yet it 1,000% failed Trump logic.

The terrifying part is the smart people are taking notes where Trump failed and won't make those mistakes again.


You have an awful lot of faith in these people.

They're currently repeating the same mistakes the Nazis made. More than that, even: Trump hasn't got the stones to kill all his potential rivals. Ah, the woes of living in an open democracy!
 
2022-01-17 6:17:24 AM  
Very few of these guys are stupid.  The low level guys are dumb, but they're all evil as Hell itself.
 
2022-01-17 6:18:25 AM  

Alphax: I thought 2016 broke the 'Bill Kristol is always wrong' rule.


In 2016, Bill Kristol said Hillary would win.  It was upon reading that on Twitter that I knew we were doomed to a Trump presidency.

Bill Kristol is an anti-prophet.  His general punditry is pretty bog-standard conservativism, but his predictions are reliably wrong enough that you could probably consistently make money by betting against him.
 
2022-01-17 6:32:38 AM  

Skeleton Man: It's farking hilarious how this massive conspiracy involved so much time, so many people with infinite resources at their disposal including the most powerful man in the world, across the entire country, culminating in an actual violent seige at the Capitol building by thousands of deranged yet useful idiots...

...and it still failed epically on every level.

Dumbasses.

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You know he wasn't the good guy, right? Although I did try to order breakfast at 10:31 the other day, so I kinda get it.
/D-FENS!
 
2022-01-17 6:34:35 AM  
The only thing he was remotely good on was Soap.

Maybe a couple SNL skits.

Otherwise... crap.

I can't believe you guys elected him POTUS.
 
2022-01-17 6:40:23 AM  

Gyrfalcon: They're currently repeating the same mistakes the Nazis made. More than that, even: Trump hasn't got the stones to kill all his potential rivals. Ah, the woes of living in an open democracy!


The only real "mistakes" that the Nazis made were assuming the Soviet Union was weak, and the fact of the invasion of Russia with the assumption that that specific part of the war would be over in just a few months, when it actually ended up being dragged out for years, though one of the harshest winters Russia had had in nearly a century. If the Germans had just continued to attack west and south and ignored the Russians, I suspect the Russians would have let him have his war while they built their own defenses. I wonder if Stalin had been under the presumption that Hitler would attack the United States with his allies in Japan before attacking Russia, and then the Soviets could "ride to the rescue" as it were.

Another was his presumptions that the industrialists in the United States would succeed in their coup, and then support the Germans in the War. I suspect that the 1934 and '36 elections were a major surprise to the German Fascists.

Hitler was a man of delusions, who would not accept advice that he didn't already agree with or that didn't support his own suppositions. He also had a large contingent of combat veterans in his faction who had huge amounts of institutional experience with slaughtering people and were willing to continue it as long as it left them in charge of everything.

Burning down the world just to rule over the ashes, indeed.
 
2022-01-17 6:41:34 AM  
I really don't need Kristol telling me shiat.
 
2022-01-17 6:43:01 AM  
He's just angry he wasn't invited to the coup
 
2022-01-17 6:44:45 AM  

Exile On Beale Street: You know he wasn't the good guy, right? Although I did try to order breakfast at 10:31 the other day, so I kinda get it.
/D-FENS!


Wait, he's the bad guy? When did that happen?!
 
2022-01-17 6:48:14 AM  

Naido: All of these neocons, *all* of them, know exactly what they're doing.  They know that all they have to do is be anti-Trump, and our side of the media will give them a hug and a seat at the table.  It's a way to regain status after disgracing themselves, and it has been very effective so far.

The left hand side of the media is full of people who can repeat this from an MSNBC report, have at least as much credibility as Kristol, and don't have his baggage.  Get this guy out of the studio.

Welcoming this guy, and Frum, and a hundred other security state veterans into the studio is how you end up killing Biden for withdrawing from Afghanistan.  And I promise you that this crowd is soon going to go back to pushing for war, likely beginning with Iran.

And all they had to do was repeat stuff about Trump that millions of other people are saying.  There's no one on earth who hears Kristol, Frum, Brennan, Clapper and thinks "well if they're saying it, it's super credible!  Must be true!" Except for people who want to believe it, and would believe it just as much if you had a decent person say it.

Nothing to gain and much to lose by lending status and air time to media-homeless neocons and security state refugees.


All of them are 100% responsible for creating Trump. They created the shiat political environment that Trump used, and they should NEVER be forgiven for their part.
 
2022-01-17 6:51:22 AM  
Bill Kristol exists to legitimize everything the GOP has done badly to the American people.

His only act is to be the voice of defeat.
 
2022-01-17 6:57:08 AM  

Deathfrogg: Gyrfalcon: They're currently repeating the same mistakes the Nazis made. More than that, even: Trump hasn't got the stones to kill all his potential rivals. Ah, the woes of living in an open democracy!

The only real "mistakes" that the Nazis made were assuming the Soviet Union was weak, and the fact of the invasion of Russia with the assumption that that specific part of the war would be over in just a few months, when it actually ended up being dragged out for years, though one of the harshest winters Russia had had in nearly a century. If the Germans had just continued to attack west and south and ignored the Russians, I suspect the Russians would have let him have his war while they built their own defenses. I wonder if Stalin had been under the presumption that Hitler would attack the United States with his allies in Japan before attacking Russia, and then the Soviets could "ride to the rescue" as it were.

Another was his presumptions that the industrialists in the United States would succeed in their coup, and then support the Germans in the War. I suspect that the 1934 and '36 elections were a major surprise to the German Fascists.

Hitler was a man of delusions, who would not accept advice that he didn't already agree with or that didn't support his own suppositions. He also had a large contingent of combat veterans in his faction who had huge amounts of institutional experience with slaughtering people and were willing to continue it as long as it left them in charge of everything.

Burning down the world just to rule over the ashes, indeed.


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2022-01-17 6:58:00 AM  

Deathfrogg: vernonFL: I don't think Trump is bright enough to be the leader of this conspiracy. This is a man who looks directly at the sun during an eclipse. This is a man who lost money running a casino.

He didn't "lose" a penny. He just under-reported what he made by several factors, and then wrote off the losses on his tax returns. The Casino was just a money laundering operation for the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs, and his buddies in the Mafia. Much of the purported "losses" on the Casino were direct cash loans to himself and his kids, which were then transferred to one of his fly-by-night real estate operations which then quietly closed out without so much as a peep because the "investors" were all himself and his kids.


Yeah, it's a fantastically textbook example.  I mean, this sonofabiatch can grift.  He grifts the way a black hole eats matter and light..

Which is why anyone that thought to put him anywhere near the White House was a complete and utter dipshiat.
 
2022-01-17 7:05:21 AM  

evilmrsock: Exile On Beale Street: You know he wasn't the good guy, right? Although I did try to order breakfast at 10:31 the other day, so I kinda get it.
/D-FENS!

Wait, he's the bad guy? When did that happen?!


Compared to the Nazi? Yeah, he's the good guy. Everyone else, not so much. He's a mentally unstable guy walking around with a gun. (But he's just trying to get home to his wife & daughter!) who are terrified of him. I love Mike, and I love this movie, but he is NOT a good guy. Sad guy, yes.
 
2022-01-17 7:17:09 AM  

Naido: All of these neocons, *all* of them, know exactly what they're doing.  They know that all they have to do is be anti-Trump, and our side of the media will give them a hug and a seat at the table.  It's a way to regain status after disgracing themselves, and it has been very effective so far.

The left hand side of the media is full of people who can repeat this from an MSNBC report, have at least as much credibility as Kristol, and don't have his baggage.  Get this guy out of the studio.

Welcoming this guy, and Frum, and a hundred other security state veterans into the studio is how you end up killing Biden for withdrawing from Afghanistan.  And I promise you that this crowd is soon going to go back to pushing for war, likely beginning with Iran.

And all they had to do was repeat stuff about Trump that millions of other people are saying.  There's no one on earth who hears Kristol, Frum, Brennan, Clapper and thinks "well if they're saying it, it's super credible!  Must be true!" Except for people who want to believe it, and would believe it just as much if you had a decent person say it.

Nothing to gain and much to lose by lending status and air time to media-homeless neocons and security state refugees.


Liberals are willingly walking into authoritarianism because of Trump, and the PNAC people will help them do it.
 
2022-01-17 7:27:01 AM  

Deathfrogg: Gyrfalcon: They're currently repeating the same mistakes the Nazis made. More than that, even: Trump hasn't got the stones to kill all his potential rivals. Ah, the woes of living in an open democracy!

The only real "mistakes" that the Nazis made were assuming the Soviet Union was weak, and the fact of the invasion of Russia with the assumption that that specific part of the war would be over in just a few months, when it actually ended up being dragged out for years, though one of the harshest winters Russia had had in nearly a century. If the Germans had just continued to attack west and south and ignored the Russians, I suspect the Russians would have let him have his war while they built their own defenses. I wonder if Stalin had been under the presumption that Hitler would attack the United States with his allies in Japan before attacking Russia, and then the Soviets could "ride to the rescue" as it were.

Another was his presumptions that the industrialists in the United States would succeed in their coup, and then support the Germans in the War. I suspect that the 1934 and '36 elections were a major surprise to the German Fascists.

Hitler was a man of delusions, who would not accept advice that he didn't already agree with or that didn't support his own suppositions. He also had a large contingent of combat veterans in his faction who had huge amounts of institutional experience with slaughtering people and were willing to continue it as long as it left them in charge of everything.

Burning down the world just to rule over the ashes, indeed.


Declaring war on the US after Pearl Harbor was a pretty major mistake as well.

Also lots of other planning failures like Plan Z.

Ultimately though the mistake Hitler made was thinking Hitler was the reason for the German Army's success.
 
2022-01-17 7:31:11 AM  

Lsherm: Liberals are willingly walking into authoritarianism because of Trump, and the PNAC people will help them do it.


Uh, nope. The only "authoritarians" in view are the NeoCon Republicans who want to privatize the entire economy, to their own benefit.
 
2022-01-17 7:34:46 AM  

born_yesterday: Deathfrogg: vernonFL: I don't think Trump is bright enough to be the leader of this conspiracy. This is a man who looks directly at the sun during an eclipse. This is a man who lost money running a casino.

He didn't "lose" a penny. He just under-reported what he made by several factors, and then wrote off the losses on his tax returns. The Casino was just a money laundering operation for the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs, and his buddies in the Mafia. Much of the purported "losses" on the Casino were direct cash loans to himself and his kids, which were then transferred to one of his fly-by-night real estate operations which then quietly closed out without so much as a peep because the "investors" were all himself and his kids.

Yeah, it's a fantastically textbook example.  I mean, this sonofabiatch can grift.  He grifts the way a black hole eats matter and light..

Which is why anyone that thought to put him anywhere near the White House was a complete and utter dipshiat.


New Yorkers knew what he was, and what his real business model was. It was common knowledge since the 1970's. He's a flim-flam man. The fact that he required outside help to get elected is proof of that.
 
2022-01-17 7:53:06 AM  
He's just angry that it was all in service to a buffoon, instead of a proper dicktater like Tom Cotton.

This is akin to Saruman's rage if Samwise Gamgee took up the One Ring and co-opted the might of Mordor.
 
2022-01-17 8:06:04 AM  
"It's better to look good than to feel good"?
 
2022-01-17 8:07:37 AM  

GardenWeasel: meatwhistle: Is this that alternate dimension brought about by the Cubs winning in 2016?

Yes. But the annihilation of the Patriots last night may be a sign the rift is closing.


It opened back up in Tampa. Fark the Brady.
 
2022-01-17 8:17:10 AM  

Naido: All of these neocons, *all* of them, know exactly what they're doing.  They know that all they have to do is be anti-Trump, and our side of the media will give them a hug and a seat at the table.  It's a way to regain status after disgracing themselves, and it has been very effective so far.

The left hand side of the media is full of people who can repeat this from an MSNBC report, have at least as much credibility as Kristol, and don't have his baggage.  Get this guy out of the studio.

Welcoming this guy, and Frum, and a hundred other security state veterans into the studio is how you end up killing Biden for withdrawing from Afghanistan.  And I promise you that this crowd is soon going to go back to pushing for war, likely beginning with Iran.

And all they had to do was repeat stuff about Trump that millions of other people are saying.  There's no one on earth who hears Kristol, Frum, Brennan, Clapper and thinks "well if they're saying it, it's super credible!  Must be true!" Except for people who want to believe it, and would believe it just as much if you had a decent person say it.

Nothing to gain and much to lose by lending status and air time to media-homeless neocons and security state refugees.


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Yep. He knows exactly what he's doing. His problem with Trump is that Trump says things out loud.
 
2022-01-17 8:25:40 AM  

vernonFL: I don't think Trump is bright enough to be the leader of this conspiracy. This is a man who looks directly at the sun during an eclipse. This is a man who lost money running a casino.


Trump is exactly the kind of person I would suspect of leading this conspiracy because it was done so sloppily. The forged documents were obvious forgeries. He's the guy in Papers, Please who tries to hand you passport he drew in crayon.
 
2022-01-17 8:36:52 AM  
I really liked him in the movie City Slickers.
 
2022-01-17 8:37:41 AM  

Skeleton Man: It's farking hilarious how this massive conspiracy involved so much time, so many people with infinite resources at their disposal including the most powerful man in the world, across the entire country, culminating in an actual violent seige at the Capitol building by thousands of deranged yet useful idiots...

...and it still failed epically on every level.

Dumbasses.

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It was an act of terrorism.  Acts of terror are meant to inspire fear so based on that measure, it was successful.
 
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