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(The New Daily (Australia))   Australia drops Health Star Rating of 100% orange juice from 5 star (highest) to 2.5 star (lower than Diet Coke) based on sugar content. Decision is being contested by an expert coalition of impartial [checks notes] ... citrus farmers   (thenewdaily.com.au) divider line
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2022-01-16 9:07:07 AM  
They started selling some half sugar orange juice.  It took a while to get used to it but it is tolerable considering it is reconstituted orange juice that appears to have extra citric acid and a bit of stevia in it so it doesn't taste watered down.

Long ago an orange juice glass was a bit bigger than a shot glass.  If you drink the stuff in a huge glass, I could see why it wouldn't get the 5 star health rating.
 
2022-01-16 9:38:28 AM  
Maybe you're metric shouldn't be based only on sugar content.

Buy my new drink "Coca-Canola" it's just carbonated canola oil, but it has no sugar! 5 stars.
 
2022-01-16 10:14:37 AM  
I can't take seriously a government minister who uses the term "fizzy drinks".

If it's a serving size issue, maybe change the recommended serving size? Or reiterate the "everything in moderation" mantra that was favourable about a decade ago? (I think it was around 2012 when ads advocating for food portion control were aired on Australian TV). How much juice can you expect from a recommended daily serving of fruit? 1 cup, 1 cup and half? I think the amount of juice in an orange is about 1/4c
 
2022-01-16 10:26:48 AM  
When they came for the grapefruit juice, I said nothing because that shiat is nasty...
 
2022-01-16 12:10:25 PM  

EnzoTheCoder: When they came for the grapefruit juice, I said nothing because that shiat is nasty...


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However, it makes a tasty beverage.
 
2022-01-16 12:27:59 PM  
Fruit juice bad, got it. You're next, vegetables.
 
2022-01-16 12:44:24 PM  

no1curr: I can't take seriously a government minister who uses the term "fizzy drinks".


Its a fairly standard term (even preferred) in Britain, Australia, and New Zealand.
Still orange juice could be considered a 'soft drink' (sweet, non-alcoholic) so you wouldn't want to use that term if you are trying to emphasize the distinction.
"Carbonated drink" can broadly apply to beverages with alcohol.
Adding to the confusion is that in those areas "lemonade " often means "fizzy lemonade"'.

Just be glad he didn't follow the Australian use of "lemonade" to mean "soda pop" as a generic the way "Coke" is used in parts of the US.
 
2022-01-16 12:58:07 PM  

HairBolus: no1curr: I can't take seriously a government minister who uses the term "fizzy drinks".

Its a fairly standard term (even preferred) in Britain, Australia, and New Zealand.
Still orange juice could be considered a 'soft drink' (sweet, non-alcoholic) so you wouldn't want to use that term if you are trying to emphasize the distinction.
"Carbonated drink" can broadly apply to beverages with alcohol.
Adding to the confusion is that in those areas "lemonade " often means "fizzy lemonade"'.

Just be glad he didn't follow the Australian use of "lemonade" to mean "soda pop" as a generic the way "Coke" is used in parts of the US.


Well there are also parts of the U.S. that have people who will shoot you if you bring them a coke thats not actual Coke
 
2022-01-16 1:14:53 PM  
If you're buying no-pulp commercial orange juice, what you're getting has basically no positive nutritional value. You've got a massively unhealthy sugary drink with some Vitamin C in it.
 
2022-01-16 2:33:46 PM  

The Madd Mann: If you're buying no-pulp commercial orange juice, what you're getting has basically no positive nutritional value. You've got a massively unhealthy sugary drink with some Vitamin C in it.


plus the part where it lives in ginormous vats for years, meanwhile having turned white after being deoxygenated. then when it's time to bottle, they'll add in flavor+color packs to achieve a specific profile.

only wish I was kidding -

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/100-percent-orange-juice-artificial_n_913395
https://gizmodo.com/dirty-little-secret-orange-juice-is-artificially-flavo-5825909

etc.
 
2022-01-16 2:45:54 PM  

EnzoTheCoder: When they came for the grapefruit juice, I said nothing because that shiat is nasty...


That's because you were out of tequila.
 
2022-01-16 3:12:50 PM  

nmrsnr: Maybe you're metric shouldn't be based only on sugar content.

Buy my new drink "Coca-Canola" it's just carbonated canola oil, but it has no sugar! 5 stars.


THis, basing health value on sugar content alone is a terrible way to measure it.
 
2022-01-16 3:12:55 PM  

HairBolus: no1curr: I can't take seriously a government minister who uses the term "fizzy drinks".

Its a fairly standard term (even preferred) in Britain, Australia, and New Zealand.
Still orange juice could be considered a 'soft drink' (sweet, non-alcoholic) so you wouldn't want to use that term if you are trying to emphasize the distinction.
"Carbonated drink" can broadly apply to beverages with alcohol.
Adding to the confusion is that in those areas "lemonade " often means "fizzy lemonade"'.

Just be glad he didn't follow the Australian use of "lemonade" to mean "soda pop" as a generic the way "Coke" is used in parts of the US.


The lemonade thing usually refers specifically to Sprite, 7UP, and similar drinks (or it did when I was a kid)

And yeah I'm familiar with the term "fizzy drinks", I've just never cared for it even when everyone else used it, because I'm a cantankerous prick ;)
 
2022-01-16 3:32:24 PM  

ZMugg: EnzoTheCoder: When they came for the grapefruit juice, I said nothing because that shiat is nasty...

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However, it makes a tasty beverage.


Sweet, sweet grapefruit jarritos. The best accompaniment to carnitas tacos evar.

/then mango
//then lime
 
2022-01-16 3:34:48 PM  

tintar: The Madd Mann: If you're buying no-pulp commercial orange juice, what you're getting has basically no positive nutritional value. You've got a massively unhealthy sugary drink with some Vitamin C in it.

plus the part where it lives in ginormous vats for years, meanwhile having turned white after being deoxygenated. then when it's time to bottle, they'll add in flavor+color packs to achieve a specific profile.

only wish I was kidding -

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/100-percent-orange-juice-artificial_n_913395
https://gizmodo.com/dirty-little-secret-orange-juice-is-artificially-flavo-5825909

etc.


Its cara cara season again, so we have a shiat ton in our next order for fresh squeezed.
 
2022-01-16 6:45:04 PM  

no1curr: Just be glad he didn't follow the Australian use of "lemonade" to mean "soda pop" as a generic the way "Coke" is used in parts of the US.


The lemonade thing usually refers specifically to Sprite, 7UP, and similar drinks (or it did when I was a kid)


I've heared it a number of times to refer to caffeinated carbonated drinks.  Caffeinated drinks can't be clear in Australia for some reason.

I find it annoying that ketchup is called "sauce" like there is one and only one type of sauce in the world.
 
2022-01-17 5:12:05 AM  

HairBolus: Just be glad he didn't follow the Australian use of "lemonade" to mean "soda pop" as a generic the way "Coke" is used in parts of the US.


hunh, I wonder what other countries do that - e.g. in Germany it was weird for me at first getting used to "limonade" in that same context/usage.
 
2022-01-17 7:59:44 AM  
My ex wife litigated on behalf of Big Corporations ... after defending Big Corporations on orange juice matters she refuses to drink oj... she would never divulge the specifics but i suspect she learned some revolting things.
 
2022-01-17 8:52:54 AM  
I like my citrus as God intended:  lemon or lime juice, mixed with rum and water.
 
2022-01-17 10:28:29 AM  
Orange juice isn't orange, and doesn't taste like an orange.
 
2022-01-17 10:52:23 AM  

nmrsnr: Maybe you're metric shouldn't be based only on sugar content.

Buy my new drink "Coca-Canola" it's just carbonated canola oil, but it has no sugar! 5 stars.


The article doesn't go into further detail on the calculation, but my reading is that the metric isn't based on sugar alone. Sugar content just happens to be the main reason the fruit juices are getting rated poorly. And it's not wrong.

Had to laugh at the guy in the article that said fruit juices should just get an automatic 4 star rating without any reasoning behind it. No dipshiat, that's exactly the reason why the idea of fruit juices being healthy has been so engrained in people's minds.
 
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