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2022-01-14 10:19:22 PM  
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2022-01-14 10:22:03 PM  
Well, I was F'ing wrong!!!
 
2022-01-14 10:22:38 PM  
This Everett guy has that Rob Van Dam weirdly stocky build for a high flyer.

And he's done.
 
2022-01-14 10:23:13 PM  
Wardlow is ready to be done with Spears ASAP.
 
2022-01-14 10:24:09 PM  

isamudyson: Wardlow is ready to be done with Spears ASAP.


I'm really looking forward to when he finally murders the hell out of MJF.
 
2022-01-14 10:25:27 PM  
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2022-01-14 10:26:05 PM  
True Story

Aliyah said I looked just like Shawn Spears at an NXT house show in GatorWench Fl.

Also that Punk/Wardlow match was absolute bullshiat.  Punk was in his deathbed from Wardlows hands.  Wardlow sold very little offense and still got beat by a roll up.  Punks ego isnt gonna let him lose to anyone.  Kingston should have gotten over on Punk, and now MJF is gonna lose to feed Punks ego
 
2022-01-14 10:26:35 PM  
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2022-01-14 10:29:28 PM  
The Acclaimed, in those videos, always do a nice job of hitting the proper balance of silly and childish in their mocking.
 
2022-01-14 10:30:35 PM  

The Tony Danzas: The Acclaimed, in those videos, always do a nice job of hitting the proper balance of silly and childish in their mocking.


They've grown on me, I look forward to them.

They are what I thought Private Party was gonna be, but then Matt Hardy got a hold of em
 
2022-01-14 10:37:18 PM  

The Tony Danzas: The Acclaimed, in those videos, always do a nice job of hitting the proper balance of silly and childish in their mocking.


ZM Punk: The Tony Danzas: The Acclaimed, in those videos, always do a nice job of hitting the proper balance of silly and childish in their mocking.

They've grown on me, I look forward to them.

They are what I thought Private Party was gonna be, but then Matt Hardy got a hold of em


Both "smart" comments I can't find fault with. PP had a lot of promise but it sure hasn't turned into much. The Acclaimed though have thrived since being put together as a team in AEW.
 
2022-01-14 10:37:21 PM  
Cody is back next week.  He missed 2 weeks.

Crowning an interim champion is stupid.  Cody did it because he loves to book himself in return angles.
 
2022-01-14 10:38:25 PM  
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Now he needs to do "Ric Flair talking to Macho Man".
 
2022-01-14 10:39:01 PM  
So for those "in the know" types here...


Why don't they have more title changes? Like back in the day both in the "bigs" and in rural territories.  I get the dominant champ angle, but the same ol gimmick wins and "so close" loses just is played out. It is just lazy writing? Are fans just rooting for "almost" and willing to wait for years for that Big E payoff just to get dumped quickly and forgotten?  Seems like diminishing returns for that fandom.  Gotta be lazy, right....right?

Am I just remembering falsely the tag team titles changing all the time in 80's-2000s?  The intercontinental, US, and even the world championship changed more than now.  I think it was more interesting to have that back and forth wins/loses and wondering if this was the time that a pushed contender or a known former competitor would win or the heel/face would lose and cheering them back to future contention.  Takes the fun out of watching when you know ahead it's "almost nearfalls", unbeatable on the ropes, and gimmick win... again... rinse, repeat...

And i guess this is mostly based on WWE, and even though AEW has been much much better in that regards. ...Am I crazy or the only one who's tired/bored of this?
 
2022-01-14 10:40:44 PM  
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2022-01-14 10:43:37 PM  
Well, looks like there's been enough talk.  Mark Henry introduces the Rampage main event.
 
2022-01-14 10:50:57 PM  
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2022-01-14 10:57:02 PM  
Ka-BOOM!
 
2022-01-14 10:58:08 PM  
2.999999!
 
2022-01-14 10:59:05 PM  
Jericho almost made it the whole show without making me hit the mute button
 
2022-01-14 11:00:23 PM  
Every Canadian Destroyer, pile driver, or variant of a driver that gets a 2 count makes me biatch on the internet
 
2022-01-14 11:00:26 PM  
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2022-01-14 11:22:00 PM  

Gotmilk2000: So for those "in the know" types here...


Why don't they have more title changes? Like back in the day both in the "bigs" and in rural territories.  I get the dominant champ angle, but the same ol gimmick wins and "so close" loses just is played out. It is just lazy writing? Are fans just rooting for "almost" and willing to wait for years for that Big E payoff just to get dumped quickly and forgotten?  Seems like diminishing returns for that fandom.  Gotta be lazy, right....right?

Am I just remembering falsely the tag team titles changing all the time in 80's-2000s?  The intercontinental, US, and even the world championship changed more than now.  I think it was more interesting to have that back and forth wins/loses and wondering if this was the time that a pushed contender or a known former competitor would win or the heel/face would lose and cheering them back to future contention.  Takes the fun out of watching when you know ahead it's "almost nearfalls", unbeatable on the ropes, and gimmick win... again... rinse, repeat...

And i guess this is mostly based on WWE, and even though AEW has been much much better in that regards. ...Am I crazy or the only one who's tired/bored of this?


I think the idea is that when you have a dominant champ who has held the belt for a long time (ie, Roman Reigns) it eventually elevates the hell out of somebody when they finally dethrone him. If Big E were to take him down when nobody else could, for example, he'd look like a total badass and someone that needs to be taken seriously. Unfortunately even if WWE manages to stick that landing (which isn't something they've been good at in the past) they tend to squander that momentum with poor booking right after.

There's a balance that needs to be struck. If you change a belt several times a month, it can add excitement as fans know a potential title change is always on the table but it can devalue the belt because when everyone seems to get a turn with it it no longer feels special. On the flip side, booking a champion to have a long title reign theoretically makes the belt mean more but can also make it become somewhat forgettable as well (see: Shinsuke Nakamura's current reign where he's had the belt for months but never seems to get booked to actually defend it).

Ideally you want a balance between the two. If you can mix a long championship run for someone in among some relatively shorter ones for others, you get the best of both worlds and that long reign looks so much more impressive. You also keep fans invested as they feel like the potential for a title change is always there... as much as I love Roman's current run, it's pretty much always been a foregone conclusion that he wasn't going to lose and that makes it hard to invest in the match.
 
2022-01-14 11:24:41 PM  

NKURyan: Is that guy in the background holding up his Hawkeyes shirt indybill?


Only if you were watching the Pacer game.
 
2022-01-14 11:25:36 PM  

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This might be sneaky good (if they give it a few minutes).


Wait Andrew Everett? Impact Andrew everett?
 
2022-01-14 11:28:14 PM  

Gotmilk2000: So for those "in the know" types here...


Why don't they have more title changes? Like back in the day both in the "bigs" and in rural territories.  I get the dominant champ angle, but the same ol gimmick wins and "so close" loses just is played out. It is just lazy writing? Are fans just rooting for "almost" and willing to wait for years for that Big E payoff just to get dumped quickly and forgotten?  Seems like diminishing returns for that fandom.  Gotta be lazy, right....right?

Am I just remembering falsely the tag team titles changing all the time in 80's-2000s?  The intercontinental, US, and even the world championship changed more than now.  I think it was more interesting to have that back and forth wins/loses and wondering if this was the time that a pushed contender or a known former competitor would win or the heel/face would lose and cheering them back to future contention.  Takes the fun out of watching when you know ahead it's "almost nearfalls", unbeatable on the ropes, and gimmick win... again... rinse, repeat...

And i guess this is mostly based on WWE, and even though AEW has been much much better in that regards. ...Am I crazy or the only one who's tired/bored of this?


Titles didn't really change that much until late 90's because Russo booking and more TV/PPV time to fill. It really was a perfect storm that took about a decade to recover from.
 
2022-01-14 11:40:26 PM  
Idk. I don't even bother watching those matches as no matter how much they push  the challenger.. you know it's not gonna happen.  At least stone cold, Cena, Rock, HHH, Kane, Etc. Etc. Etc. Had a real threat of winning and did quite often. Never took away from their dominance or Fandom.  Maybe the Attitude Era was the pinnacle? I don't think any different about the APA, new age outlaws, Harlem heat winning  or losing... didn't even Scott 2 hotty and  grandmaster sexy win for a bit?
 
2022-01-14 11:41:59 PM  
Somehow I lost the WCW names ..lol
 
2022-01-14 11:56:29 PM  

NKURyan: Gotmilk2000: So for those "in the know" types here...


Why don't they have more title changes? Like back in the day both in the "bigs" and in rural territories.  I get the dominant champ angle, but the same ol gimmick wins and "so close" loses just is played out. It is just lazy writing? Are fans just rooting for "almost" and willing to wait for years for that Big E payoff just to get dumped quickly and forgotten?  Seems like diminishing returns for that fandom.  Gotta be lazy, right....right?

Am I just remembering falsely the tag team titles changing all the time in 80's-2000s?  The intercontinental, US, and even the world championship changed more than now.  I think it was more interesting to have that back and forth wins/loses and wondering if this was the time that a pushed contender or a known former competitor would win or the heel/face would lose and cheering them back to future contention.  Takes the fun out of watching when you know ahead it's "almost nearfalls", unbeatable on the ropes, and gimmick win... again... rinse, repeat...

And i guess this is mostly based on WWE, and even though AEW has been much much better in that regards. ...Am I crazy or the only one who's tired/bored of this?

I think the idea is that when you have a dominant champ who has held the belt for a long time (ie, Roman Reigns) it eventually elevates the hell out of somebody when they finally dethrone him. If Big E were to take him down when nobody else could, for example, he'd look like a total badass and someone that needs to be taken seriously. Unfortunately even if WWE manages to stick that landing (which isn't something they've been good at in the past) they tend to squander that momentum with poor booking right after.

There's a balance that needs to be struck. If you change a belt several times a month, it can add excitement as fans know a potential title change is always on the table but it can devalue the belt because when everyone seems to get a turn with it it no longer ...


A good long modern title run like Pete Dunne or WALTER had in NXT UK made that belt worth something and every match was like "Will this person be the one...". Or look at Okada over in New Japan. Dude is 34, just got elected to the WON HoF and has held the belt longer than anyone both in cumulative time (5 reigns over 1790 days plus whatever number of days as the IWGP HW Champ when they merger the I.C & IWGP Championship into one title) and a single run (720 days with 12 defenses) with the IWGP belt. Everyone that faced him in a loss got elevated and even him losing in a non-title match was big. You can book a dominant champion, just do it smartly.

As for things like the I.C./U.S. titles in WWE or the TNT/TBS titles in AEW should only be for a short time (a couple months at most) as that way fans get to see some of their favorites as champs and gives Booking a look at how they do with a title before they get the "big belt", so to speak. And honestly, some people just top out at a mid-level title and that's fine. Not everyone can be "the face of the company". If they were, there would be no mid-card or lower talent and that would make for a boring show in the long run.

BTW, Boogs said in a recent interview that the reason Shinsuke hasn't seen much in-ring action as of late is due to a hand injury that is still bothering him.
 
2022-01-14 11:58:17 PM  
I think it would be more interesting if they stopped backburnering (is that a word?) the former champ once they lose also.  Wouldn't it be fun if Mero was back in the mix, how about Black since he's squashing fools now and beat Cody multiple times. He's not a threat now? Can we only get one feud at a time? Are we that ADD? I don't know why this bugs me as idc about Roman and like his gimmick... just if you're having Brock and Lashley lose and still look like world beating monsters while still not diminishing their power or threat... that weak ass superman punch finisher and multiple saves from the 'fam only makes you look like a  "Depends" champ.  Maybe that's why wrestling stopped existing for a decade until AEW arrived and pulled me back in. Not that I have a dog in the fight, bit it feels nostalgic to me. And WWE reminds me why I stopped... I guess I want the monday night wars again... that brought the best and worst of everyone.and a early 20s me loved it!
 
2022-01-15 12:07:06 AM  
I get the long title run.and have no issue with it... just don't make 80% of your wins assisted and sell yourself as dominant. I did like Seth's comment regarding that and it did make me more interested in the match... but we know he's not gonna win as the Usos were there foreshadowing.  Now if Seth started a shield 2.0 with some mix of NXT upstarts and established stars.... that would draw me in as it's now a diverse storyline and brings in a threat of defeat.
 
2022-01-15 12:18:24 AM  

Gotmilk2000: I get the long title run.and have no issue with it... just don't make 80% of your wins assisted and sell yourself as dominant. I did like Seth's comment regarding that and it did make me more interested in the match... but we know he's not gonna win as the Usos were there foreshadowing.  Now if Seth started a shield 2.0 with some mix of NXT upstarts and established stars.... that would draw me in as it's now a diverse storyline and brings in a threat of defeat.


They tried that with Seth "Greater Good" gimmick. He had Buddy Murphy & Austin Theory and it was pretty crap. Granted Theory with Garza & Andrade (with Zelina as their manager) wasn't much better. A short visit back to NXT & now Austin's back and in a better spot...for now.
 
2022-01-15 12:28:56 AM  

isamudyson: Gotmilk2000: I get the long title run.and have no issue with it... just don't make 80% of your wins assisted and sell yourself as dominant. I did like Seth's comment regarding that and it did make me more interested in the match... but we know he's not gonna win as the Usos were there foreshadowing.  Now if Seth started a shield 2.0 with some mix of NXT upstarts and established stars.... that would draw me in as it's now a diverse storyline and brings in a threat of defeat.

They tried that with Seth "Greater Good" gimmick. He had Buddy Murphy & Austin Theory and it was pretty crap. Granted Theory with Garza & Andrade (with Zelina as their manager) wasn't much better. A short visit back to NXT & now Austin's back and in a better spot...for now.


I'm not very familiar with NXT until kinda recently.  (Started  few weeks before the wedding.... where's dexter btw?)  That backstory and his gimmick is hilarious to me.
 
2022-01-15 12:45:22 AM  
Maybe Dexter as the monster type since Seth is great on the mic and that dynamic could add comic relief.
Maybe the that tagteam with crowbar (unless they were booted??) With a different look, those guys could have potential since they already have the look and wasted on the roster.
 
2022-01-15 1:04:40 AM  
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2022-01-15 1:13:56 AM  
I LOL'd  for real at that big black bat, lil white dk joke.. thats a fun tag team right there. Are they original AEW talent?
 
2022-01-15 1:40:41 AM  
If Vince was still alive and Nick's financial department wasn't running the show, there would be like a 85 percent chance Cena would be showing up in the Rumble match in Peacemaker gear before stripping to his undies.

But now I don't need to worry because A) For some reason they haven't booked Cena to even promote things easily and B) If they could get him, they'd ruin the Rumble surprise by announcing next week anyhow.
 
2022-01-15 8:14:36 AM  

Gotmilk2000: I LOL'd  for real at that big black bat, lil white dk joke.. thats a fun tag team right there. Are they original AEW talent?


More or less. They both separately had a few years of wrestling before being signed to AEW and teamed up. Max once played one of Bobby Lashley's "sisters" on an episode of RAW, and Bowens was once in NXT.
 
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