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(MSN)   Chopping down a 250-year-old black walnut tree on a nature preserve for a lousy $10,000 in wood will get you felony charges in these here Ohio neck of the woods   (msn.com) divider line
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‘’ 1 day ago  
Well he would be making a profit if it was some $500 slap on the wrist
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Sounds more like a case of incorrect survey and ownership. 7 1/2 feet isn't that much for error for older property lines that go through the woods. The headline makes it sound like they were grabbing a logging truck and plowing up Yellowstone. Not a tree that's been on what they thought was generational land and being forced to sell it to keep their home.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Bark Lives Matter.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
"You said wood twice."
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

mjjt: "You said wood twice."


I like wood.
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‘’ 1 day ago  
Jones owns property adjacent to the park and said his family for years believed the tree was inside their property lines.

If only there were some way to check these things!
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Don't worry, earth will cut us all down soon. We deserve it
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
...also. If the county/state or other development recently built a road that nudges up to their property. That could have been enough to give the county/state the 'easement' on their property without explicit permission. (Got a big useless tornado siren on my land....that's abandoned...woke up one day...and their drilling a hole putting in pole and then testing it so it screamed every first Thursday, then they abandoned their county Tornado siren system.)
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Ohio? State legislators are probably writing legislation that lets property owners sue trees for $10,000 if they don't cut themselves down.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Mandate all people get their property lunes surveyed.  If they don't and go over the line, make the punishment death.

Problem solved.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
We didn't mean ill... it was so close to the property... we needed the money... I didn't even know about it... why are you making a big deal about this...

They sound entitled.

All that's missing is, "God put that tree there for us to use. He wants us to cut it down. You're persecuting me."
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Most black walnut trees disappeared from the US in the late 1800-early 1900's due to disease. The wood, and nuts, are incredibly hard.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
This is why you have to waste all this time and money on permits.  Because of stupid people like this.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

cwheelie: Most black walnut trees disappeared from the US in the late 1800-early 1900's due to disease. The wood, and nuts, are incredibly hard.


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‘’ 1 day ago  

edmo: We didn't mean ill... it was so close to the property... we needed the money... I didn't even know about it... why are you making a big deal about this...

They sound entitled.

All that's missing is, "God put that tree there for us to use. He wants us to cut it down. You're persecuting me."


Why couldn't they have cut down some trees that were on their property?
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
This wasn't just any black walnut tree, it was the 3rd or 4th largest in the state. While the lumber company that cut it down was found not legally responsible I think it's extremely shady that they cut down such an old, large, and significant tree without double checking the property lines. Yeah, they had the homeowner sign an affidavit which covered them legally, but it really feels like a wink and a nod thing that destroyed an irreplaceable piece of the shared natural resources of the state.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

robodog: This wasn't just any black walnut tree, it was the 3rd or 4th largest in the state. While the lumber company that cut it down was found not legally responsible I think it's extremely shady that they cut down such an old, large, and significant tree without double checking the property lines. Yeah, they had the homeowner sign an affidavit which covered them legally, but it really feels like a wink and a nod thing that destroyed an irreplaceable piece of the shared natural resources of the state.


Have everybody involved sent to Gitmo.  Make sure the whole tree cutting industry sees it.

Problem solved.

God farking damn.  Just farking start punishing people with actual hard punishments.  Stop with the fines that never get paid. Stop with the hand slaps.  Start having peoples heads sawn off Isis style.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

cwheelie: Most black walnut trees disappeared from the US in the late 1800-early 1900's due to disease. The wood, and nuts, are incredibly hard.


It's one of the most common trees in Illinois and surrounding states.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Read article the guy thought the tree was on the dads property.

The real crook here was the lumberjack
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

AlgaeRancher: Read article the guy thought the tree was on the dads property.

The real crook here was the lumberjack


He thought wrong.  He failed.  He is objectively wrong.  The worst type of wrong.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

robodog: irreplaceable


Trees grow back.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Kinda boring story bro..

My uncle was a hardwood grader and lived in the Cleveland area all his life. Poaching these and other rare hardwoods is a real problem in the region. There have literally been people with a crews armed with a bunch of chain saws and a huge truck, they spot some valuable hardwoods in a remote or seemingly vacant or unowned lot, roll up like they're some kind of tree service and harvest themselves several grand for their trouble.

And there is definitely a shady market for this product. Unlike importing rare hardwoods or tonewoods for example, there isn't a lot of red tape to selling "random tonnage of domestic hardwood" to a local yard. Or wasn't in the ~90s at least.. he's been gone a while now.

/end bsb
//wood
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
At first, Todd Jones allegedly denied knowing about the felled walnut tree when asked by police.

Yep, that's not suspicious at all (if it's true).

Anyone who had a tree cut down that they thought was always on their property would, when asked about it by police, immediately tell them "Yeah, it's my tree, so I had it cut down. What about it?"
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

optikeye: ...also. If the county/state or other development recently built a road that nudges up to their property. That could have been enough to give the county/state the 'easement' on their property without explicit permission. (Got a big useless tornado siren on my land....that's abandoned...woke up one day...and their drilling a hole putting in pole and then testing it so it screamed every first Thursday, then they abandoned their county Tornado siren system.)


"Hey, free siren!"
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
It was an honest mistake!

That's why I lied about it the first two times!
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
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They're boned. Unless they have proof the property lines were checked and the tree fell on their side of the line.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

cwheelie: Most black walnut trees disappeared from the US in the late 1800-early 1900's due to disease. The wood, and nuts, are incredibly hard.


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‘’ 1 day ago  

Natalie Portmanteau: edmo: We didn't mean ill... it was so close to the property... we needed the money... I didn't even know about it... why are you making a big deal about this...

They sound entitled.

All that's missing is, "God put that tree there for us to use. He wants us to cut it down. You're persecuting me."

Why couldn't they have cut down some trees that were on their property?


Their trees don't leave shiat all over the place
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
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‘’ 1 day ago  
No time to get into it, but at one end of my property are some oaks I planted years ago, mostly to GIVE privacy to a neighbor. The neighbor has decided that they might fall over into his house, and has started coming onto my property to hack off limbs. Hmm. Without asking.

I can get really bent up about it, or I can just try to understand and accommodate "the whacko next door." It makes my life interesting. We all have to be careful and try harder.

Having more trees than I know what to do with, I am not going to get crazy about it. The neighbor grows trees as specimens, basically, so we are not likely to see eye to eye.

Anyway, telling someone what to do with trees on their own property is a can of worms I don't want to open up. As if people don't have enough problems.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

mrmopar5287: At first, Todd Jones allegedly denied knowing about the felled walnut tree when asked by police.

Yep, that's not suspicious at all (if it's true).

Anyone who had a tree cut down that they thought was always on their property would, when asked about it by police, immediately tell them "Yeah, it's my tree, so I had it cut down. What about it?"


Cop 'Did you cut down Jim Bob's walnut tree?'
Guy who cut down the tree 'No'
How the question is asked is important
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

AmbassadorBooze: Mandate all people get their property lunes surveyed.  If they don't and go over the line, make the punishment death.

Problem solved.


THIS!
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

edmo: We didn't mean ill... it was so close to the property... we needed the money... I didn't even know about it... why are you making a big deal about this...

They sound entitled.

All that's missing is, "God put that tree there for us to use. He wants us to cut it down. You're persecuting me."


Yep.  They sound like Cliven Bundy.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
A co-worker from California once told me that they were forced to remove an old tree because their neighbor complained it was shading their solar panels.

It sounded pretty stupid, but sure enough, there's a law. (Or there was, no idea if it's still on the books): https://www.popsci.com/enviro​nment/art​icle/2008-02/california-hippie-court-t​rees-vs-solar-panels/

The only good news is that this guy doesn't have Dan 'I want my football team to have a racist name' Snyder, so whoever reported the missing tree isn't going to get screwed over in retaliation, I assume:  https://deadspin.com/dan-snyder-kill​ed​-some-trees-and-a-park-ranger-paid-th-​1494113337
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

Oneiros: A co-worker from California once told me that they were forced to remove an old tree because their neighbor complained it was shading their solar panels.

It sounded pretty stupid, but sure enough, there's a law. (Or there was, no idea if it's still on the books): https://www.popsci.com/environ​ment/article/2008-02/california-hippie​-court-trees-vs-solar-panels/

The only good news is that this guy doesn't have Dan 'I want my football team to have a racist name' Snyder, so whoever reported the missing tree isn't going to get screwed over in retaliation, I assume:  https://deadspin.com/dan-snyder-kille​d-some-trees-and-a-park-ranger-paid-th​-1494113337


Please use the correct name for him:  it's Dwarf Snyder, Dan is just, well, old.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

mrmopar5287: robodog: irreplaceable

Trees grow back.


The tree was older than the country. So yes, a new tree will grow. But this country will never have that particular one that predates it again.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Any woodworkers here in Farkland? You know what they're getting for walnut. It's farking insane.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
Black walnut like the most expensive wood there was back in high school shop class.

Thats some expensive fire there, might as well use 20's as kindling.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: edmo: We didn't mean ill... it was so close to the property... we needed the money... I didn't even know about it... why are you making a big deal about this...

They sound entitled.

All that's missing is, "God put that tree there for us to use. He wants us to cut it down. You're persecuting me."

Yep.  They sound like Cliven Bundy.


They have opinions about the tree grow too.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
The first thing I thought of was the people in my city that got fined for cutting down Joshua Trees, then the article even mentioned it!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation​/​2021/07/01/california-bulldoze-joshua-​tree/

You cant remove a Joshua Tree and even if a dead branch falls off or the tree dies you have to call the city to pick it up for removal.

My back yard.
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‘’ 1 day ago  
I just walked in with an armload of black walnut firewood.

Too short for much.
I planned some chunks down for trophy mounts.

The straight branches, those get milled up, too. But I'm burning a cord of scrap, easy this winter. If it isn't long enough for a ukelele fret board, forget about it
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
I plan to plant a bunch of black walnut trees in the next few years.  My grandkids might appreciate it.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

Nick Nostril: Any woodworkers here in Farkland? You know what they're getting for walnut. It's farking insane.


Yep. I was calling around to local places on Monday trying to replenish my wood stash, and one of them straight up told me he's stopped carrying walnut because of the price. Looks like I'm going to be building everything out of maple for the near future.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

neongoats: Kinda boring story bro..

My uncle was a hardwood grader and lived in the Cleveland area all his life. Poaching these and other rare hardwoods is a real problem in the region. There have literally been people with a crews armed with a bunch of chain saws and a huge truck, they spot some valuable hardwoods in a remote or seemingly vacant or unowned lot, roll up like they're some kind of tree service and harvest themselves several grand for their trouble.

And there is definitely a shady market for this product. Unlike importing rare hardwoods or tonewoods for example, there isn't a lot of red tape to selling "random tonnage of domestic hardwood" to a local yard. Or wasn't in the ~90s at least.. he's been gone a while now.

/end bsb
//wood


farking eh!
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

FatinAugust: I plan to plant a bunch of black walnut trees in the next few years.  My grandkids might appreciate it.


Not if they have to deal with the foul smell of the fruit.

And they're not even worth harvesting.  You end up with stained hands for weeks and they have a nasty bitterness to them.

/grew up with a black walnut tree
//prefers English walnuts
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

FatinAugust: I plan to plant a bunch of black walnut trees in the next few years.  My grandkids might appreciate it.


I'm growing a giant sequoia, it'll be my great grandkids before it's really distinguishable from a native conifer here in NE Ohio.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  
They look nice and all, but it's a real pain in the ass when they leave rotting husks all over the place every fall. And it's not like they crush when you can't avoid driving over them, they shoot off in random directions like you're rolling over solid tennis balls. This guy's yard was probably a mess for two months out of the year.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

FatinAugust: I plan to plant a bunch of black walnut trees in the next few years.  My grandkids might appreciate it.


If you have a lot of land, look into creating a tree farm. It's not without some labor, but there are tax advantages.
 
‘’ 1 day ago  

mrmopar5287: robodog: irreplaceable

Trees grow back.


Only have to wait 250 years!
 
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