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(NYPost)   Old and busted: Robbing the mail car of trains in the West. New in the 21st Century: Robbing trains for their Amazon packages   (nypost.com) divider line
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2022-01-14 8:49:59 AM  
Damn, how can the robbers find which of the containers has Amazon goods in it.

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2022-01-14 8:54:39 AM  
Worse: they littered!
 
2022-01-14 8:55:05 AM  
"supply-chain difficulties"
 
2022-01-14 8:55:51 AM  
And those same packages are just going to be resold on Amazon by third-party vendors.
 
2022-01-14 8:57:19 AM  
Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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2022-01-14 8:59:25 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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No one told khaki pants it was picture day.
 
2022-01-14 9:01:32 AM  

Solty Dog: Rapmaster2000: Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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No one told khaki pants it was picture day.


Those are manager pants.
 
2022-01-14 9:03:29 AM  
Freight trains in the San Diego area also provide a vital transportation link for undocumented aliens heading north.
 
2022-01-14 9:11:36 AM  
What a mess
 
2022-01-14 9:12:51 AM  

NM Volunteer: And those same packages are just going to be resold on Amazon by third-party vendors.


If you listen closely, you can almost faintly hear "the circle of life" from the original Lion King....
 
2022-01-14 9:16:33 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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9 Dudes to police a major rail yard?
Good luck with that.
 
2022-01-14 9:17:29 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Freight trains in the San Diego area also provide a vital transportation link for undocumented aliens heading north.


Don't tell anyone, but on Sundays I elude the eyes and hop the moving freight
to far outside the wire, where my white-haired uncle waits.
 
2022-01-14 9:17:42 AM  
It's all you farkers fault. Stop buying crap you don't need. Then maybe I could get my doe skin chaps finally delivered.
 
2022-01-14 9:17:54 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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Today boys, you'll be pulling a train, so look your best.
 
2022-01-14 9:20:27 AM  
I got an item with an X-id number in the shrink wrap yesterday. If you pull a heist of Amazon wares, where are you going to fence it? I currently fence my feral wares on Amazon because I can get warehouse gnomes to pick and pack.
 
2022-01-14 9:23:45 AM  
There's a lot of desperate people out there. Sights like that make me feel bad for folks. I wish our society cared more about taking care of people than it does.
 
2022-01-14 9:25:23 AM  

MIRV888: Rapmaster2000: Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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9 Dudes to police a major rail yard?
Good luck with that.


I don't know if those guys police the LA rail yard or not.  That's just some UP cops.

Many people likely don't realize that railroads even have their own cops.  They have them because the government gave the railroads broad legal and property rights 150 years ago to get the railroads built.  Local and state cops don't police the railyards.  They railroad police do, and being that their bosses are a corporation who doesn't like to have its insurance rates raised to cover stolen merchandise, I'm genuinely surprised the theft was that large.
 
2022-01-14 9:25:39 AM  

mongbiohazard: There's a lot of desperate people out there. Sights like that make me feel bad for folks. I wish our society cared more about taking care of people than it does.


If my Aunt had balls.....
 
2022-01-14 9:29:03 AM  

Rapmaster2000: MIRV888: Rapmaster2000: Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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9 Dudes to police a major rail yard?
Good luck with that.

I don't know if those guys police the LA rail yard or not.  That's just some UP cops.

Many people likely don't realize that railroads even have their own cops.  They have them because the government gave the railroads broad legal and property rights 150 years ago to get the railroads built.  Local and state cops don't police the railyards.  They railroad police do, and being that their bosses are a corporation who doesn't like to have its insurance rates raised to cover stolen merchandise, I'm genuinely surprised the theft was that large.


There's no money in paying for your private police force (ala Pinkerton).  That's what insurance is for.
The thieves have figured out they outnumber the Po, by a whole lot.  It's happening all over.
 
2022-01-14 9:31:52 AM  
Read one report that they're welding doors shut at departure and cutting the welds at the destination because locks aren't working.

Hardcore.
 
2022-01-14 9:33:52 AM  
CSB

The afternoon I got laid off from Union Pacific, I came in to work second shift.  I was waiting in the breakroom for the turnover meeting.  There was a railroad cop in there.  We got to talking.

He told me this story about years ago, he was at the intermodal yard in LA.  City of Industry?  Nice neighborhood and people were always cracking open the containers nearest the fence.

One night, they found a container with VCRs.  This being the olden times, VCRs were something and a crowd quickly swarmed.  The cops could only grab as many VCRs as the could from residents running through the street.  The guy says, he came around the corner and here was a 70 year old lady with a walker and a VCR balanced across it.  He felt bad about taking it.  Then he looked at my ID and took off.

The turnover meeting went off and they told me to hang back for a moment.  Then the manager and the cop came back in, told me I was a stinky fart no one wanted around any more and I needed to leave.  Actually, I had indicated that I wouldn't be transferring to Omaha in a few months.

I made the cop walk down four flights if he wanted to escort me out.  I was on the street before his wheezing ass could exit the stairwell.
 
2022-01-14 9:40:19 AM  
2nd CSB

A mystery, Scooby Doo

A trainload of Budweiser Beer leaves St. Louis.   Only stops are for a crew change.  When it reaches New Orleans, many cases of Budweiser Beer are missing.  One boxcar is opened.  During the crew swap, they walk the train to check everything.

Happens enough that the put some railroad cops on the train.   Beer gets through to the desperate thirsty folk in NO.  So the railroad cops tail to the train.  In the bayou area, the train has to side for a northbound.  Couple of guys in johnboats motor up, break in to the box car and unload the beer.  IIRC, one of the john boaters was related to someone on the crew who told them which boxcar had the booze.
 
2022-01-14 9:41:44 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: The afternoon I got laid off from Union Pacific


What did you do on the UP?
 
2022-01-14 9:43:42 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Theft from rail cars has always been a railroad problem.  I'm more surprised that this happened on that large a scale.  In the 1930s, there was an entire genre of music about railroad bulls cracking open the skulls of hobos.  They're still in existence.
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The Phone Cops would have made a better presentation...
 
2022-01-14 9:46:28 AM  
3rd CSB
Hey, I worked for UP

Cops are called about a woman hanging from the locomotive screaming as they go through crossing in southern Texas.  Cop get the train stopped and find out the woman is a prostitute and he and her friend were on the train servicing the crew.   Only the friend was trans and after 'punching the conductor's ticket' the conductor found out about the peener and beat her/him to death with a brake line and tossed her off a bridge.  Hence, the other one hanging outside a train screaming for help.

Supposedly, they never found the body and it was just crazy whore against the hardworking railroad men, so you know.  But no one could explain how probably two hookers got on a train that was in the yard and didn't stop anywhere else.

Like War Stories in the Army.  Maybe true.  Maybe embellished
 
2022-01-14 9:50:08 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: 3rd CSB
Hey, I worked for UP

Cops are called about a woman hanging from the locomotive screaming as they go through crossing in southern Texas.  Cop get the train stopped and find out the woman is a prostitute and he and her friend were on the train servicing the crew.   Only the friend was trans and after 'punching the conductor's ticket' the conductor found out about the peener and beat her/him to death with a brake line and tossed her off a bridge.  Hence, the other one hanging outside a train screaming for help.

Supposedly, they never found the body and it was just crazy whore against the hardworking railroad men, so you know.  But no one could explain how probably two hookers got on a train that was in the yard and didn't stop anywhere else.

Like War Stories in the Army.  Maybe true.  Maybe embellished


I'm enjoying these CSBs.
 
2022-01-14 9:51:22 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Harry Freakstorm: The afternoon I got laid off from Union Pacific

What did you do on the UP?


Help Desk.  Union member of Telecommunications Worker 53

Here's our song:
We're the help desk tried and true!
And we're here to help even you
I'm sorry, sir or ma'am
Bad hearing - Vietnam
Bad connection.  That's shame
Gotta find someone else to blame

Windws NT
Lotus Notes
IBM 390 (ran the whole business)
UNIX boxes at Intermodal Sites
Union thugs who had to dial in NOW!
One 'special guy' in Wyoming who couldn't remember his logon ID
 
2022-01-14 9:56:53 AM  
Steal more shiat from rich people.  Steal everything they have.  Because you're only stealing that which was already stolen and you're stealing it from a thief.
 
2022-01-14 9:57:07 AM  
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2022-01-14 10:06:20 AM  

Teddy Brosevelt: Steal more shiat from rich people.  Steal everything they have.  Because you're only stealing that which was already stolen and you're stealing it from a thief.


Companies factor loss into the price they charge consumers. Soooo...
 
2022-01-14 10:10:39 AM  

Teddy Brosevelt: Steal more shiat from rich people.  Steal everything they have.  Because you're only stealing that which was already stolen and you're stealing it from a thief.


Because only rich people buy from Amazon?  fark off.
 
2022-01-14 10:19:56 AM  

mongbiohazard: There's a lot of desperate people out there. Sights like that make me feel bad for folks. I wish our society cared more about taking care of people than it does.


most people involved in this are gangs not poor people
 
2022-01-14 10:20:50 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Help Desk.


Interesting. Did you do any work with PTC implementation?
 
2022-01-14 10:21:57 AM  
Cue the Yosemite Sam music.
 
2022-01-14 10:25:24 AM  
In the late 1960s, in my grandparents' small Illinois town, the railroad came through, probably still Penn Central. We kids would hang out near the tracks no matter how many times told not to. The closed coalmine was just across the tracks south of town and a very long siding started before town, passed through, and ended well past the mine. Every so often, the RR would put a car off there because of some problem. Most times we couldn't tell why. There once was a big bulk car that was spilling white powder. Big piles of the stuff underneath. No idea what it was. You realize how many things start out as a white powder?

Anyhow, one day a big boxcar was set off there, one of the really big ones, which were new at the time. We checked it out; didn't see anything wrong with it. Went back again the next day and the door is open and the thing is absolutely stuffed with cases of Campbell's chicken noodle soup. Except for probably 100 cases that had wandered away already. Never saw so much soup.
 
2022-01-14 10:30:05 AM  

edmo: You realize how many things start out as a white powder?


Most Stephen King novels, for one.
 
2022-01-14 10:33:04 AM  

pointfdr: mongbiohazard: There's a lot of desperate people out there. Sights like that make me feel bad for folks. I wish our society cared more about taking care of people than it does.

most people involved in this are gangs not poor people


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2022-01-14 10:33:04 AM  
breaking into railcars is not some new invention.  da fuq is up with all the Columbus' discovering things that aready are.
 
2022-01-14 10:34:43 AM  
the pending BNSF strike will really fark with the supply chain.  i hope you don't need any food next month.
 
2022-01-14 10:34:44 AM  
I think I see an opportunity for a new Law & Order here. Dick Clark.
 
2022-01-14 10:39:23 AM  

asciibaron: the pending BNSF strike will really fark with the supply chain.  i hope you don't need any food next month.


Oh, shiat. My commuter train is crewed by BNSF.
 
2022-01-14 10:40:29 AM  
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2022-01-14 10:41:15 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: During the crew swap, they walk the train to check everythin


they walk as far as the first 10 cars and check the hand brakes which may or may not have been set by the previous crew.  no one is walking an 8000 foot train.  if the air pumps up, and the brakes release, the engineer sets the field selector switch and notches up.
 
2022-01-14 10:41:57 AM  

HailRobonia: edmo: You realize how many things start out as a white powder?

Most Stephen King novels, for one.


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2022-01-14 10:42:26 AM  

hobnail: asciibaron: the pending BNSF strike will really fark with the supply chain.  i hope you don't need any food next month.

Oh, shiat. My commuter train is crewed by BNSF.


beyond the crews, the dispatchers will be walking so there won't be anything running.
 
2022-01-14 10:45:59 AM  

asciibaron: hobnail: asciibaron: the pending BNSF strike will really fark with the supply chain.  i hope you don't need any food next month.

Oh, shiat. My commuter train is crewed by BNSF.

beyond the crews, the dispatchers will be walking so there won't be anything running.


How likely are they to vote for a strike? I was pretty tight with one of our engineers and a couple conductors but they all retired last month due to the work rule changes and, in the engineer's case, changes in the way they structured the pay for downtime.
 
2022-01-14 10:48:05 AM  

Old_Chief_Scott: Freight trains in the San Diego area also provide a vital transportation link for undocumented aliens heading north.


Maybe the railroad should hire them to protect the cargo.  Seems like a win win to me.
 
2022-01-14 10:49:46 AM  
hobnail:

How likely are they to vote for a strike?


they already voted.  ball is in BNSF's court.

https://smart-union.org/news/smart-td-blet-rail-unions-initiate-steps-to-strike-bnsf-properties-over-new-hi-viz-attendance-policy-punishing-sick-rail-workers-during-the-pandemic/
 
2022-01-14 10:52:06 AM  

asciibaron: hobnail:

How likely are they to vote for a strike?


they already voted.  ball is in BNSF's court.

https://smart-union.org/news/smart-td-blet-rail-unions-initiate-steps-to-strike-bnsf-properties-over-new-hi-viz-attendance-policy-punishing-sick-rail-workers-during-the-pandemic/


Thanks, just read that myself. Good for them. Bad for me, but whatever.
 
2022-01-14 10:57:47 AM  

asciibaron: breaking into railcars is not some new invention.  da fuq is up with all the Columbus' discovering things that aready are.


Columbus wasn't even his real name.
Do we give Genghis Khan an English name?  "George Kristoff"?  Heck no.

So why the heck do history books give some Genoese sailor an English name?

Everything about that guy is revisionism.
 
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