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(KOB4)   The last time the National Guard was sent to New Mexico schools, they bayoneted a bunch of college students on strike   (kob.com) divider line
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2 days ago  
We've gotten to the point where you don't need educational experience or anything. It's daycare for kids. Just play a VHS cassette of Mannequin 2: On the Move and observe the knowledge seeped into their fragile eggshell minds
 
2 days ago  

berylman: We've gotten to the point where you don't need educational experience or anything. It's daycare for kids. Just play a VHS cassette of Mannequin 2: On the Move and observe the knowledge seeped into their fragile eggshell minds


Well YEAH. I mean CMON. Those teachin people are LIBRULS cant be doin that.
 
2 days ago  
2020 was the safest year in data for minors on record in Canada.  Like so insanely safe, North America should take a look at its culture and ask just what the heck we're doing wrong:.

https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/stat​u​s/1481734046543716356?t=2EsMjCuHTK6sf-​Y5wHQZOw&s=19
 
2 days ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: 2020 was the safest year in data for minors on record in Canada.  Like so insanely safe, North America should take a look at its culture and ask just what the heck we're doing wrong:.

https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/statu​s/1481734046543716356?t=2EsMjCuHTK6sf-​Y5wHQZOw&s=19


Down here in Best America we are using conscripted military labor to do jobs in the private sector.  For example, here in MA our GQP governor is using the national guard to drive school busses instead of offering higher wages and better benefits to civilian drivers.
The New Mexico governor will have to explain why a national guard member who is not a qualified teacher would be better than remote learning from a professional teacher with the equipment and training to do so effectively.  The answer is that it's daycare, and has little to do with education or child safety.  That road leads to very high COVID infection rates and some 30% long haul COVID survivors for decades.  It's stupid and very short sighted.
What's next, ordering the US army to work in poultry processing plants and harvest crops?  Heck of an advertisement for the "military".
We should not tolerate abusing the military like this.  Private businesses (our school busses are contracted), need to get the job done without coerced labor.  A tall order in the USA I know.
 
2 days ago  
This is nuts.   Wouldn't it be far cheaper to use prison labor in schools and transportation?
 
2 days ago  
> "The data is clear about frankly kids are safer in school," said the governor.

what data?
I presume she means having kids in daycare over seen by guards is safer than the kids running wild in the streets.

Sounds a lot like a prison that is not 24/7 but only runs part of the day.
 
2 days ago  
One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea
 
2 days ago  

baka-san: One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea


As opposed to paying teachers an attractive wage...can't have that...

/lousy free market
 
2 days ago  
How is a weekend warrior going to handle having a highschool kid tell him to fark off for the third time in a day?

/With complete calm and  patience?
// Understanding that the kid may be having just a bad day?
/// Pull out his concealed carry and pop a few off?
 
2 days ago  

PunGent: baka-san: One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea

As opposed to paying teachers an attractive wage...can't have that...

/lousy free market


You do know where you are, right?
 
1 day ago  

PunGent: baka-san: One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea

As opposed to paying teachers an attractive wage...



That sounds like socialism to me.  (is this were I get to shoot something now?)
 
1 day ago  

Stud Gerbil: This is nuts.   Wouldn't it be far cheaper to use prison labor in schools and transportation?


I hear prisons have entire wings dedicated to people who enjoy being around kids.
 
1 day ago  

Blink: PunGent: baka-san: One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea

As opposed to paying teachers an attractive wage...


That sounds like socialism to me.  (is this were I get to shoot something now?)


Using the military to teach kids closer to socialism.
 
1 day ago  

Northern: backhand.slap.of.reason: 2020 was the safest year in data for minors on record in Canada.  Like so insanely safe, North America should take a look at its culture and ask just what the heck we're doing wrong:.

https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/statu​s/1481734046543716356?t=2EsMjCuHTK6sf-​Y5wHQZOw&s=19

Down here in Best America we are using conscripted military labor to do jobs in the private sector.  For example, here in MA our GQP governor is using the national guard to drive school busses instead of offering higher wages and better benefits to civilian drivers.
The New Mexico governor will have to explain why a national guard member who is not a qualified teacher would be better than remote learning from a professional teacher with the equipment and training to do so effectively.  The answer is that it's daycare, and has little to do with education or child safety.  That road leads to very high COVID infection rates and some 30% long haul COVID survivors for decades.  It's stupid and very short sighted.
What's next, ordering the US army to work in poultry processing plants and harvest crops?  Heck of an advertisement for the "military".
We should not tolerate abusing the military like this.  Private businesses (our school busses are contracted), need to get the job done without coerced labor.  A tall order in the USA I know.


Conscripted?

/He's on a roll
 
1 day ago  
I appreciate the pre-9/11 Dennis Miller headline, but I'm afraid I didn't get the reference.
 
1 day ago  
So going to teach them whatever their MOS is?
 
1 day ago  

OtherLittleGuy: I appreciate the pre-9/11 Dennis Miller headline, but I'm afraid I didn't get the reference.


I think subby is referring to this.
 
1 day ago  

srb68: How is a weekend warrior going to handle having a highschool kid tell him to fark off for the third time in a day?


/With complete calm and  patience?
// Understanding that the kid may be having just a bad day?
/// Pull out his concealed carry and pop a few off?

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1 day ago  

PunGent: baka-san: One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea

As opposed to paying teachers an attractive wage...can't have that...

/lousy free market


This isn't some permanent thing due to not being able to recruit and retain teachers, or bring ingredients inscabs. It's to keep schools open during the Omicron surge; many teachers are out (either sick, or exposed and quarantining, or exposed and there aren't enough tests for "Test to Stay", or are taking care of sick family members). Omicron is starting to hit New Mexico hard and schools are starting to go virtual, initially for a few days or a week, and they're trying to prevent it; even if they are virtual, there are stillalot of sick or unavailable teachers due to immunity spread.
 
1 day ago  

Northern: backhand.slap.of.reason: 2020 was the safest year in data for minors on record in Canada.  Like so insanely safe, North America should take a look at its culture and ask just what the heck we're doing wrong:.


https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/stat​u​s/1481734046543716356?t=2EsMjCuHTK6sf-​Y5wHQZOw&s=19

Down here in Best America we are using conscripted military labor to do jobs in the private sector.  For example, here in MA our GQP governor is using the national guard to drive school busses instead of offering higher wages and better benefits to civilian drivers.
The New Mexico governor will have to explain why a national guard member who is not a qualified teacher would be better than remote learning from a professional teacher with the equipment and training to do so effectively.  The answer is that it's daycare, and has little to do with education or child safety.  That road leads to very high COVID infection rates and some 30% long haul COVID survivors for decades.  It's stupid and very short sighted.
What's next, ordering the US army to work in poultry processing plants and harvest crops?  Heck of an advertisement for the "military".
We should not tolerate abusing the military like this.  Private businesses (our school busses are contracted), need to get the job done without coerced labor.  A tall order in the USA I know.

It's also just robbing Peter to pay Paul.  The national guard isn't some reserve force sitting around waiting to be deployed.  They are active, working members of the civilian community.  Every guardsman conscripted to work in the public sector is robbing the private sector of an employee at a time when the job market is already very tight.

When a hurricane, flood or blizzard hits, yes, that's the time to call out the guard because the private sector is also getting knocked for a loop until the emergency is resolved.  But when it's just a matter of low public sector pay or stupid public policies driving away public sector workers, this does not constitute an emergency and the solution is to fix the causes of the worker shortage.  That national guardsmen are not jacks-of-all-trades that can be bossed around on your personal whim, governor.
 
1 day ago  
Slave labor has returned to America.  It never really left.
 
1 day ago  

BunchaRubes: Northern: backhand.slap.of.reason: 2020 was the safest year in data for minors on record in Canada.  Like so insanely safe, North America should take a look at its culture and ask just what the heck we're doing wrong:.

https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/statu​s/1481734046543716356?t=2EsMjCuHTK6sf-​Y5wHQZOw&s=19

Down here in Best America we are using conscripted military labor to do jobs in the private sector.  For example, here in MA our GQP governor is using the national guard to drive school busses instead of offering higher wages and better benefits to civilian drivers.
The New Mexico governor will have to explain why a national guard member who is not a qualified teacher would be better than remote learning from a professional teacher with the equipment and training to do so effectively.  The answer is that it's daycare, and has little to do with education or child safety.  That road leads to very high COVID infection rates and some 30% long haul COVID survivors for decades.  It's stupid and very short sighted.
What's next, ordering the US army to work in poultry processing plants and harvest crops?  Heck of an advertisement for the "military".
We should not tolerate abusing the military like this.  Private businesses (our school busses are contracted), need to get the job done without coerced labor.  A tall order in the USA I know.

Conscripted?

/He's on a roll


It's an all volunteer military.  We have not had conscription through a draft since the Vietnam war.
Mea culpa.
 
1 day ago  

Ambitwistor: PunGent: baka-san: One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea

As opposed to paying teachers an attractive wage...can't have that...

/lousy free market

This isn't some permanent thing due to not being able to recruit and retain teachers, or bring ingredients inscabs. It's to keep schools open during the Omicron surge; many teachers are out (either sick, or exposed and quarantining, or exposed and there aren't enough tests for "Test to Stay", or are taking care of sick family members). Omicron is starting to hit New Mexico hard and schools are starting to go virtual, initially for a few days or a week, and they're trying to prevent it; even if they are virtual, there are stillalot of sick or unavailable teachers due to immunity spread.


Oh, I understand all your points.  Mine still stands.

They going to issue enough PPE to the NG, or are they supposed to teach in their Cold War surplus MOPP gear?
 
1 day ago  

Marcus Aurelius: Slave labor has returned to America.  It never really left.


"Slave labor"? Oh you sweet summer child. Not including fringe benefits like additional time earned toward federal pensions, top earners in the NG get paid upwards of $1800 per week. Bottom 25% earn $480/week.

By comparison the average public school teacher's salary in NM as of 2021 was about $1100/week.
 
1 day ago  

PunGent: Ambitwistor: PunGent: baka-san: One of the ideas is to have qualified New Mexico National Guardsmen step into the classroom in order to help keep schools open for in-person learning.

While I think distance learning would be better, this isn't a horrible idea

As opposed to paying teachers an attractive wage...can't have that...

/lousy free market

This isn't some permanent thing due to not being able to recruit and retain teachers, or bring ingredients inscabs. It's to keep schools open during the Omicron surge; many teachers are out (either sick, or exposed and quarantining, or exposed and there aren't enough tests for "Test to Stay", or are taking care of sick family members). Omicron is starting to hit New Mexico hard and schools are starting to go virtual, initially for a few days or a week, and they're trying to prevent it; even if they are virtual, there are stillalot of sick or unavailable teachers due to immunity spread.

Oh, I understand all your points.  Mine still stands.


No, it doesn't, because you said "as opposed to" paying teachers more - implying that's a solution to the problem being discussed.  Paying teachers more isn't going to solve the Omicron-induced staffing problem they're currently experiencing.
 
1 day ago  

backhand.slap.of.reason: 2020 was the safest year in data for minors on record in Canada.  Like so insanely safe, North America should take a look at its culture and ask just what the heck we're doing wrong:.

https://twitter.com/tylerblack32/statu​s/1481734046543716356?t=2EsMjCuHTK6sf-​Y5wHQZOw&s=19


rap.
 
1 day ago  

berylman: We've gotten to the point where you don't need educational experience or anything. It's daycare for kids. Just play a VHS cassette of Mannequin 2: On the Move and observe the knowledge seeped into their fragile eggshell minds


And this viewpoint is the reason we don't have good teachers.When you pay for babysitters you get babysitters. Few if any of the National Guard have any knowledge on teaching. If you think it's easy, try subbing. I did that for a bit when I needed work and decided stocking shelves third shift (for more money) was a better option. Simply getting 20-30 kids to sit and listen is a herculean task. I'd bet on the kids vs a national guardsman any day.
 
1 day ago  

NotARocketScientist: If you think it's easy, try subbing. I did that for a bit when I needed work and decided stocking shelves third shift (for more money) was a better option. Simply getting 20-30 kids to sit and listen is a herculean task. I'd bet on the kids vs a national guardsman any day.


I dunno, is the Guardsman armed?

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