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2259 clicks; posted to Main » on 13 Jan 2022 at 8:41 PM (2 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2 days ago  
Translating an Australian accent can't be easy.
 
2 days ago  
She does not look happy to be there.
 
2 days ago  
I'm struggling to think what could possibly be the goal here.

The only possible non-racist explanation is if this was done because there might be a low level of trust between Aboriginal communities and white Australian members of government because *gestures at the entirety of Australian history* and they thought having an Aboriginal up there would maybe help, and then executed the plan really really badly.
 
2 days ago  
Her body language says it all. This is video is the epitome of cringe.
 
2 days ago  

Target Builder: I'm struggling to think what could possibly be the goal here.

The only possible non-racist explanation is if this was done because there might be a low level of trust between Aboriginal communities and white Australian members of government because *gestures at the entirety of Australian history* and they thought having an Aboriginal up there would maybe help, and then executed the plan really really badly.


Betting this is close. They wanted to lend legitimacy to the message and failed horribly.
 
2 days ago  

NM Volunteer: She does not look happy to be there.


She looks incompetent and/or unprepared. Then again, that's really on the people calling the shots, who... yeah, appear to be holding her against her will.

Target Builder: I'm struggling to think what could possibly be the goal here.


The only possible non-racist explanation is if this was done because there might be a low level of trust between Aboriginal communities and white Australian members of government because *gestures at the entirety of Australian history* and they thought having an Aboriginal up there would maybe help, and then executed the plan really really badly.

Partly trying to borrow some cred, but mainly she is translating to a creole (kriol), which for some statements might be quite different to the English phrasing.

It's just that in this case you have to wonder if anyone considered doing a rehearsal and realising how it comes off.
 
2 days ago  
I'm disgusted that he's perfectly lit, and she's underexposed.  Shoddy, shoddy, shoddy.
 
2 days ago  
A lot of the misinformation going into aboriginal communities is given in Kriol, and to people who have English as a 4th or 5th language with next to no information given in their own language.
Western Australia has pretty much no covid and it has exploded in the rest of the country and the aboriginal communities will be the worst hit if it enters the state.
 
2 days ago  
It could have been worse:

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2 days ago  

Raug the Dwarf: Target Builder: I'm struggling to think what could possibly be the goal here.


The only possible non-racist explanation is if this was done because there might be a low level of trust between Aboriginal communities and white Australian members of government because *gestures at the entirety of Australian history* and they thought having an Aboriginal up there would maybe help, and then executed the plan really really badly.

Betting this is close. They wanted to lend legitimacy to the message and failed horribly.

She used a lot of recognizable English words, but I'd have a hard time transcribing everything she said, suggesting a rather different dialect than what the man was speaking -- so there may have been some linguistic purpose.  Still, especially from the legitimacy perspective, it probably would have been better to have her giving a prepared speech rather than translating (to whatever extent it can be called that) in realtime.
 
2 days ago  
Jive Speak Aeroplane!
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2 days ago  
Scottish Elevator - Voice Recognition - ELEVEN !
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2 days ago  

nigeman: A lot of the misinformation going into aboriginal communities is given in Kriol, and to people who have English as a 4th or 5th language with next to no information given in their own language.
Western Australia has pretty much no covid and it has exploded in the rest of the country and the aboriginal communities will be the worst hit if it enters the state.


(from a site on Aboriginal languages spoken in Aus)

"Linguists claim that there were 66 Aboriginal languages spoken in W.A at the time of European settlement with The National indigenous Languages Report stating that only 17 of those 66 languages are spoken in WA today, including: Ngaanyatjarra, Yinjibarndi, Martu Wangka and Bardi.
In 2018, the Sydney Morning Herald spoke to the Senior Consultant of Aboriginal Languages with the WA Department of Education, Lola Jones. Jones said that 16 of those languages were being taught in 41 schools throughout the state."

I'm guessing that this is an effort to get the message across in as many languages as possible.  I don't know that this is the only spot being done.  Perhaps there are many other translators being used to reach more people in different languages, not just the dialect this woman is speaking.

Are the posters above aware that there isn't just one Aboriginal language spoken?
 
2 days ago  
What an Australian aboriginal might sound like:

Jessica Mauboy - I Can't Help Myself (Sugar Pie, Honey Bunch)
Youtube rVTHCU_rQK8
 
2 days ago  

Raug the Dwarf: Target Builder: I'm struggling to think what could possibly be the goal here.

The only possible non-racist explanation is if this was done because there might be a low level of trust between Aboriginal communities and white Australian members of government because *gestures at the entirety of Australian history* and they thought having an Aboriginal up there would maybe help, and then executed the plan really really badly.

Betting this is close. They wanted to lend legitimacy to the message and failed horribly.


White people aren't the target audience.

Aboriginal people in West Australia live in remote areas. Really remote. They have little to no contact with Australia and have developed their own creole isolation.

You may have felt she failed badly, but to her audience, she may have done a good enough job in speaking to them in a way they understand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austral​i​an_Aboriginal_English
 
2 days ago  
I'm glad she translated the "thank you" at the end, otherwise Aboriginal people may have thought he was rude.
 
2 days ago  
Can't possibly be Aussie: no one called anyone a coont even once.
 
2 days ago  
The video quality is poor and it seems awkward but in the circumstances of WA's indigenous population (which have been well explained by some Farkers above) I think it was important to have the premier there (and not a bureaucrat) and the translator in the same room because that shows respect, which hasn't always been much of a feature of Australian governments "communicating" important information to Aboriginal people. So yeah it could have been better thought through in some technical ways but the fundamentals are really sound.
 
1 day ago  

ansius: Raug the Dwarf: Target Builder: I'm struggling to think what could possibly be the goal here.

The only possible non-racist explanation is if this was done because there might be a low level of trust between Aboriginal communities and white Australian members of government because *gestures at the entirety of Australian history* and they thought having an Aboriginal up there would maybe help, and then executed the plan really really badly.

Betting this is close. They wanted to lend legitimacy to the message and failed horribly.

White people aren't the target audience.

Aboriginal people in West Australia live in remote areas. Really remote. They have little to no contact with Australia and have developed their own creole isolation.

You may have felt she failed badly, but to her audience, she may have done a good enough job in speaking to them in a way they understand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australi​an_Aboriginal_English


She didn't fail.  She did what she was supposed to do. The people who set up the press conference failed
 
1 day ago  
Can she translate the scottish girl from a few threads up?
 
1 day ago  
A lot of judgmental people in here expounding on how they KNOW a different ethnic group will react to this message.... and implicitly judging the creole itself.

I could barely follow her, so it needed the translation to their creole.

It wasn't perfect. Meh.
 
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