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2022-01-07 6:59:06 PM  
In reality,
Most of the known hallucinogens and entheogens are fairly physically safe. It's potentially poking the bear of otherwise latent mental illness that's the greatest danger.

Still, a vote for something that a soul should experience at least once or twice in a lifetime...

//in safe and friendly circumstances
 
2022-01-07 10:09:03 PM  
I have a quarter of mushrooms that I have found no opportunity to imbibe. What with the kid and work and nobody in this household to do it with.

One night I had the house to myself, but it's been so long since I've done them I wasn't sure how much to take to still be able to get to bed before 3-4. I ate a small amount and while I definitely noticed a little euphoria it wasn't enough to be satisfying and by the time I realized that it was too late to do more.

I was going to take them up to my undeveloped forest land in NH, but never found the opportunity and now it's winter.

I feel like they're going to go bad or whatever before I get to do them.
 
2022-01-07 10:40:30 PM  
25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.
 
2022-01-07 10:40:39 PM  

jaylectricity: One night I had the house to myself, but it's been so long since I've done them I wasn't sure how much to take to still be able to get to bed before 3-4. I ate a small amount and while I definitely noticed a little euphoria it wasn't enough to be satisfying and by the time I realized that it was too late to do more.


That sounds like it's close to the amount depression researchers are giving to patients and seeing positive results from, so at least you've got that going for you.
 
2022-01-07 10:45:29 PM  

thehellisthis: jaylectricity: One night I had the house to myself, but it's been so long since I've done them I wasn't sure how much to take to still be able to get to bed before 3-4. I ate a small amount and while I definitely noticed a little euphoria it wasn't enough to be satisfying and by the time I realized that it was too late to do more.

That sounds like it's close to the amount depression researchers are giving to patients and seeing positive results from, so at least you've got that going for you.


I did actually think about that. I did enough to alter my brain just a tiny bit. I'm not depressed in a clinical sense, but I did enjoy it.
 
2022-01-07 10:46:50 PM  

HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.


It's only meaningless to hippies that just want to get high.
 
2022-01-07 10:51:40 PM  

HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.


An 1/8 oz of mushrooms or an 1/8 oz of psilocybin?
 
2022-01-07 11:14:20 PM  

scanman61: HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.

An 1/8 oz of mushrooms or an 1/8 oz of psilocybin?


1/8 is a micro dose of shrooms.
 
2022-01-07 11:27:30 PM  
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2022-01-07 11:27:51 PM  
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2022-01-07 11:33:49 PM  
if i recall rightly from my two encounters a couple decades ago, an eighth was what we ate. key was to eat a meal a couple or three hours before eating them. once we just gagged them down with water, the other time we made orange juliuses with oj and some vanilla ice cream in the blender. both times had a nice delay before kicking in. once was up skiing heavenly, most wonderful psychically magical day on the mountain. this was long before i began teaching folks to ski...
 
2022-01-08 12:36:23 AM  

HempHead: scanman61: HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.

An 1/8 oz of mushrooms or an 1/8 oz of psilocybin?

1/8 is a micro dose of shrooms.


But these folks are taking psilocybin, not mushrooms that happen to contain psilocybin
 
2022-01-08 1:00:47 AM  

scanman61: HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.

An 1/8 oz of mushrooms or an 1/8 oz of psilocybin?


Yea, that was my first question, too.
 
2022-01-08 2:05:18 AM  

Somaticasual: In reality,
Most of the known hallucinogens and entheogens are fairly physically safe. It's potentially poking the bear of otherwise latent mental illness that's the greatest danger.

Still, a vote for something that a soul should experience at least once or twice in a lifetime...

//in safe and friendly circumstances


But this guy told mis friends brother works in a psych ward and it's full of people who did MDMA just once and now they are shiatting their pants in a rubber room!

/True story, a guy really did tell me that.
//He trains law enforcement on drugs
///Sigh
 
2022-01-08 2:07:19 AM  

Smackledorfer: Somaticasual: In reality,
Most of the known hallucinogens and entheogens are fairly physically safe. It's potentially poking the bear of otherwise latent mental illness that's the greatest danger.

Still, a vote for something that a soul should experience at least once or twice in a lifetime...

//in safe and friendly circumstances

But this guy told mis friends brother works in a psych ward and it's full of people who did MDMA just once and now they are shiatting their pants in a rubber room!

/True story, a guy really did tell me that.
//He trains law enforcement on drugs
///Sigh


*me his friend's
 
2022-01-08 2:26:32 AM  

Smackledorfer: Somaticasual: In reality,
Most of the known hallucinogens and entheogens are fairly physically safe. It's potentially poking the bear of otherwise latent mental illness that's the greatest danger.

Still, a vote for something that a soul should experience at least once or twice in a lifetime...

//in safe and friendly circumstances

But this guy told mis friends brother works in a psych ward and it's full of people who did MDMA just once and now they are shiatting their pants in a rubber room!

/True story, a guy really did tell me that.
//He trains law enforcement on drugs
///Sigh


Thank God none of them injected marijuanas
 
2022-01-08 2:33:31 AM  
Well if you want to launch a large scale research study to prove those claims you'll likely find no shortage of eager volunteers.
 
2022-01-08 2:38:55 AM  
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2022-01-08 3:24:02 AM  

jaylectricity: I have a quarter of mushrooms that I have found no opportunity to imbibe. What with the kid and work and nobody in this household to do it with.

One night I had the house to myself, but it's been so long since I've done them I wasn't sure how much to take to still be able to get to bed before 3-4. I ate a small amount and while I definitely noticed a little euphoria it wasn't enough to be satisfying and by the time I realized that it was too late to do more.

I was going to take them up to my undeveloped forest land in NH, but never found the opportunity and now it's winter.

I feel like they're going to go bad or whatever before I get to do them.


Let it go. You're an employed adult and parent and none of your friends shroom. You can get back to it when you're 75 and running your own small business part time and your friends at the senior centre want a smooth pleasant trip. For now, just let it go, fellow adult.
 
2022-01-08 3:26:34 AM  

HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.


The study is meaningful because of its place in incremental progress. We have gone from governments outright banning research on psychedelics to being able to test for long term safety and potential therapeutic applications. It's a good step forward.
 
2022-01-08 3:33:59 AM  
I have a friend that suffered horrific childhood trauma that has incorporated hallucinogens into her therapy and the results have been positive and noticeable.
 
2022-01-08 7:13:58 AM  
That is fine, and for the folks who enjoy psychedelics, have at it. Not a fan myself, but you let your freak flags fly.
 
2022-01-08 8:14:26 AM  

KB202: jaylectricity: I have a quarter of mushrooms that I have found no opportunity to imbibe. What with the kid and work and nobody in this household to do it with.

One night I had the house to myself, but it's been so long since I've done them I wasn't sure how much to take to still be able to get to bed before 3-4. I ate a small amount and while I definitely noticed a little euphoria it wasn't enough to be satisfying and by the time I realized that it was too late to do more.

I was going to take them up to my undeveloped forest land in NH, but never found the opportunity and now it's winter.

I feel like they're going to go bad or whatever before I get to do them.

Let it go. You're an employed adult and parent and none of your friends shroom. You can get back to it when you're 75 and running your own small business part time and your friends at the senior centre want a smooth pleasant trip. For now, just let it go, fellow adult.


I'm already self-employed. My employee is the one that got me the shrooms.
 
2022-01-08 10:53:38 AM  

jaylectricity: HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.

It's only meaningless to hippies that just want to get high.


Appreciate the judgement, thanks.
 
2022-01-08 11:20:45 AM  

HempHead: scanman61: HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.

An 1/8 oz of mushrooms or an 1/8 oz of psilocybin?

1/8 is a micro dose of shrooms.


Um, no.
1/8 oz is the de facto dose for experiencing a "trip". YMMV
A microdose is an amount significantly less than 1/8 oz,  but enough to feel something. A
10-25 mg, as noted above, would be probably unnoticeable, thus probably ineffective. Maybe not.
(Typical microdoses range from 0.10 grams to 0.25 grams of dried P. cubensis mushrooms.)
 
2022-01-08 12:26:37 PM  

Somaticasual: In reality,
Most of the known hallucinogens and entheogens are fairly physically safe. It's potentially poking the bear of otherwise latent mental illness that's the greatest danger.

Still, a vote for something that a soul should experience at least once or twice in a lifetime...

//in safe and friendly circumstances


Any drug that gets u high is "safe" in murca

For obvious reasons
 
2022-01-08 12:28:02 PM  

thehellisthis: jaylectricity: One night I had the house to myself, but it's been so long since I've done them I wasn't sure how much to take to still be able to get to bed before 3-4. I ate a small amount and while I definitely noticed a little euphoria it wasn't enough to be satisfying and by the time I realized that it was too late to do more.

That sounds like it's close to the amount depression researchers are giving to patients and seeing positive results from, so at least you've got that going for you.


Frontal lobotomies tend to work well for depression too.
 
2022-01-08 12:32:12 PM  
Mushrooms are basically grey market in Canada nowadays.  A few microdose capsules made their way into my mailbox last year.  They are 125mg of active ingredient.

The effects were fairly subtle.  A light euphoria for a few hours.  Sometimes I get a bit sleepy.  Sometimes a bit energetic. They did seem to boost my mood for a week or so afterwards.  And my focus would sometimes get laser sharp for a day or so.  I would start doing something and not stop for hours.  That was great when I was doing something productive, but I also wasted a day watching the entire first season of 'Community'.
 
2022-01-08 1:25:59 PM  

Lord Bear: Mushrooms are basically grey market in Canada nowadays.  A few microdose capsules made their way into my mailbox last year.  They are 125mg of active ingredient.

The effects were fairly subtle.  A light euphoria for a few hours.  Sometimes I get a bit sleepy.  Sometimes a bit energetic. They did seem to boost my mood for a week or so afterwards.  And my focus would sometimes get laser sharp for a day or so.  I would start doing something and not stop for hours.  That was great when I was doing something productive, but I also wasted a day watching the entire first season of 'Community'.


No chance of a random dose of QC-free poison.  Nope, no siree.

To Conservatives, overdoses and death are punishments for 'immorality'.  STDs and pregnancy too.  So keep it all illegal.
 
2022-01-08 1:27:56 PM  
1/8 oz shrooms may make you vomit

/1/8oz psylocybin will definitely make you vomit
//then you will trip BALLZ for 72 weeks
///erowid.orgasm
 
2022-01-08 1:57:01 PM  
My one vague connection with mushrooms was over 50 years ago. Someone had made a mushroom run to Gainesville which was reputed to be mushroom central. According to the story, magic mushrooms flourished in the cow-pat rich pastures around Gainesville. Nobody knew the truth. Nobody doubted the story. The guy with the mushrooms had them in a cooler. On ice. The mushrooms were enormous. According to the guy's story, nobody else wanted them because they'd been picked 2 days previous. Less magic. Almost no magic. So, that's why they let me and a friend have them. Just take 'em. No charge.

What they lacked in magic they made up for in slime. They were the biggest mushrooms I'd ever seen. Diameter as wide as a slice of bread. And around 3/4" thick. One important detail: I hate mushrooms. But at this point, like the kid dared to stick his tongue to the frozen flagpole, I couldn't back down. So, this being Peak Hippie Era, someone had a loaf of whole wheat bread and some "natural" peanut butter. By the time, the sandwich was finished, it was around 2" thick. Maybe more. Peanut butter and slimy mushroom sandwich. (I've never scoffed at Elvis for liking peanut butter and bananas.) It's said that "courage is the 2nd oyster". Well, that sandwich was at least 15 bites. So, I'm pretty damn courageous. Or stupid.

So, was it worth it? Were their visions? orgasms? a pleasant buzz? At this point, who knows? I was young. It was summer. We stayed up all night goofing on stuff. The exact same things I would have done without the mushroom. At this remove, I suspect we were being laughed at.
 
2022-01-08 2:30:59 PM  
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2022-01-08 6:41:50 PM  

Lord Bear: Mushrooms are basically grey market in Canada nowadays.  A few microdose capsules made their way into my mailbox last year.  They are 125mg of active ingredient.

The effects were fairly subtle.  A light euphoria for a few hours.  Sometimes I get a bit sleepy.  Sometimes a bit energetic. They did seem to boost my mood for a week or so afterwards.  And my focus would sometimes get laser sharp for a day or so.  I would start doing something and not stop for hours.  That was great when I was doing something productive, but I also wasted a day watching the entire first season of 'Community'.


Was that day really "wasted"?
 
2022-01-08 10:11:56 PM  

HurryHeinz: jaylectricity: HurryHeinz: 25mg is .0088 of an ounce. Not enough to feel anything at all, considering an average trip dose is 1/8 of an ounce (.125).
This study seems meaninglessness.

It's only meaningless to hippies that just want to get high.

Appreciate the judgement, thanks.


Last time somebody said that to me it wasn't an obvious joke. I have already pointed out that I like to get high. In this thread.
 
2022-01-09 10:10:44 AM  
The cutting high part is great. It's coming down from it that sucks. Molly is worse, but still, it's why I stopped (that and a lack of 24 hours responsibility free and a minder).
 
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