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2022-01-03 11:40:47 AM  
I worked a block from the main library branch here for several years. I would frequently eat lunch then head to the library to read magazines or peruse the stacks on my lunch. It was nice.

There was always a population of homeless individuals who would hang out there. As long as they weren't eating, drinking, sleeping or causing a disturbance (like any patron), no problem.

At some point, though, it went from a handful hanging out to hundreds. The area outside the library became dangerous with frequent muggings and assaults. The interior became infested with bedbugs.

The library became a defacto homeless shelter. It more or less ceased to be a place where people checked out books or spent time reading.

It makes sense to have social workers deployed where they are needed. It also makes sense to create places where homeless may shelter and receive services. But it does suck when the library can no longer (safely) be used as a library.
 
2022-01-03 12:07:09 PM  
The answer is closely related to "why you no longer visit your local library", I'd guess.
 
2022-01-03 12:07:36 PM  

beezeltown: I worked a block from the main library branch here for several years. I would frequently eat lunch then head to the library to read magazines or peruse the stacks on my lunch. It was nice.

There was always a population of homeless individuals who would hang out there. As long as they weren't eating, drinking, sleeping or causing a disturbance (like any patron), no problem.

At some point, though, it went from a handful hanging out to hundreds. The area outside the library became dangerous with frequent muggings and assaults. The interior became infested with bedbugs.

The library became a defacto homeless shelter. It more or less ceased to be a place where people checked out books or spent time reading.

It makes sense to have social workers deployed where they are needed. It also makes sense to create places where homeless may shelter and receive services. But it does suck when the library can no longer (safely) be used as a library.


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2022-01-03 12:07:59 PM  
knocking it down in the library
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2022-01-03 12:11:14 PM  
Cue the reuthuglican calls to defund libraries. We can't have government helping people now, that would be socialism.
 
2022-01-03 12:12:14 PM  
I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole
 
2022-01-03 12:17:02 PM  

mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole


How long did he stare at you before coming to that conclusion?
 
2022-01-03 12:17:48 PM  
Nice job subby of turning a really good story about a worthy initiative into something shiatty.

GFYS.
 
2022-01-03 12:19:13 PM  

mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole


...so, clearly, he hadn't learned anything from his internet research.
 
2022-01-03 12:20:07 PM  
CSB:  At my university library we had a homeless guy that came in to watch videos in carrels.  They were set up to require headphones, which we checked out to students.  This guy was polite, clean, and caused no problems, so he got a curtesy library card to let him check out headphones.  He was a regular feature for years.  Sat up on the fourth floor and watched videos from open to close in that "old man watching woodworking shows on PBS" pose.  As you probably guessed, we eventually found out he was watching rather extreme hardcore porn.  Only found out because a librarian stopped by to say hi and glanced at the little B&W screen for a moment.  We had to rescind his library card.  He argued he never touched himself, called attention to his choice of viewing material, or made a scene.  We totally agreed with him on all points, but he still went above and beyond to break the "Let's not watch forced scat porn in public shall we?" regulation.  He turned over the card and we never saw him again.
 
2022-01-03 12:20:45 PM  

beezeltown: I worked a block from the main library branch here for several years. I would frequently eat lunch then head to the library to read magazines or peruse the stacks on my lunch. It was nice.

There was always a population of homeless individuals who would hang out there. As long as they weren't eating, drinking, sleeping or causing a disturbance (like any patron), no problem.

At some point, though, it went from a handful hanging out to hundreds. The area outside the library became dangerous with frequent muggings and assaults. The interior became infested with bedbugs.

The library became a defacto homeless shelter. It more or less ceased to be a place where people checked out books or spent time reading.

It makes sense to have social workers deployed where they are needed. It also makes sense to create places where homeless may shelter and receive services. But it does suck when the library can no longer (safely) be used as a library.


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2022-01-03 12:21:36 PM  
Kudos to subby for the illustrative farktitle; here at Cedar Rapids we have a great library, with a really cool green roof and view of the city and, yes, in the winter especially it is a hangout for the homeless.  It's Iowa so the homeless generally are pretty subdued, nice, in a homeless way.

The sadness is the "promote the general welfare" part of the Constitution seems to be lost in the promote the concentration of wealth in a few clause.

When libraries started letting you order books and retrieving them from the stacks for patrons I felt it was a great event:  but I still like to roam the stacks looking for catchy titles and avoiding eye contact with others.

I'm also quite fond of the service where you can drop off books at the local Hy-Vee instead of making the trip downtown.  When drones will start delivering books I can become a full-on hermit.
 
2022-01-03 12:22:00 PM  

beezeltown: I worked a block from the main library branch here for several years. I would frequently eat lunch then head to the library to read magazines or peruse the stacks on my lunch. It was nice.

There was always a population of homeless individuals who would hang out there. As long as they weren't eating, drinking, sleeping or causing a disturbance (like any patron), no problem.

At some point, though, it went from a handful hanging out to hundreds. The area outside the library became dangerous with frequent muggings and assaults. The interior became infested with bedbugs.

The library became a defacto homeless shelter. It more or less ceased to be a place where people checked out books or spent time reading.

It makes sense to have social workers deployed where they are needed. It also makes sense to create places where homeless may shelter and receive services. But it does suck when the library can no longer (safely) be used as a library.


Nailed in the boobies.
 
2022-01-03 12:22:44 PM  
I went to law school with that guy.
 
2022-01-03 12:25:10 PM  
Our library has a table set up every winter with free knit hats and gloves. In the nicer months they put out free surplus produce from stores and farmers. Recently I saw a table with free food, simple packaged and canned items collected in gallon baggies.
 
2022-01-03 12:25:38 PM  

giantmeteor: Cue the reuthuglican calls to defund libraries. We can't have government helping people now, that would be socialism.


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2022-01-03 12:26:55 PM  

beezeltown: I worked a block from the main library branch here for several years. I would frequently eat lunch then head to the library to read magazines or peruse the stacks on my lunch. It was nice.

There was always a population of homeless individuals who would hang out there. As long as they weren't eating, drinking, sleeping or causing a disturbance (like any patron), no problem.

At some point, though, it went from a handful hanging out to hundreds. The area outside the library became dangerous with frequent muggings and assaults. The interior became infested with bedbugs.

The library became a defacto homeless shelter. It more or less ceased to be a place where people checked out books or spent time reading.

It makes sense to have social workers deployed where they are needed. It also makes sense to create places where homeless may shelter and receive services. But it does suck when the library can no longer (safely) be used as a library.


I miss the library in Flagstaff, AZ. It was old, but a nice place to hang out.  I worked four-10s, so I was off on Fridays. My wife had to work on Fridays, so I would just hang out at the library. Just sit there in the peace and quiet reading or playing on the computer.  There were homeless people, but they never seemed to bother anyone.
I would either do that, or just hang out by the train station, read on my iPad and watch the trains roll by. Homeless people never bothered me there either.  Man, I really miss Flagstaff. Hopefully, I can move back one day.
 
2022-01-03 12:30:43 PM  
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"ssshhhh...keep it quiet big boy, remember, you're in a public library."
 
2022-01-03 12:31:59 PM  

Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole

...so, clearly, he hadn't learned anything from his internet research.


Nah, he had it right
 
2022-01-03 12:34:54 PM  

phalamir: CSB:  At my university library we had a homeless guy that came in to watch videos in carrels.  They were set up to require headphones, which we checked out to students.  This guy was polite, clean, and caused no problems, so he got a curtesy library card to let him check out headphones.  He was a regular feature for years.  Sat up on the fourth floor and watched videos from open to close in that "old man watching woodworking shows on PBS" pose.  As you probably guessed, we eventually found out he was watching rather extreme hardcore porn.  Only found out because a librarian stopped by to say hi and glanced at the little B&W screen for a moment.  We had to rescind his library card.  He argued he never touched himself, called attention to his choice of viewing material, or made a scene.  We totally agreed with him on all points, but he still went above and beyond to break the "Let's not watch forced scat porn in public shall we?" regulation.  He turned over the card and we never saw him again.


He was doing research!
 
2022-01-03 12:35:36 PM  

chitownmike: Miss_Dorothy_Kilgallen: mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole

...so, clearly, he hadn't learned anything from his internet research.

Nah, he had it right


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2022-01-03 12:42:19 PM  
First the cops, now libraries are hiring them?  It's almost as if people think social workers are useful for something (but don't worry, the pay makes it clear people don't actually think that).

giantmeteor: Cue the reuthuglican calls to defund libraries. We can't have government helping people now, that would be socialism.


Even if they knew what a lieberry was, they'd have to burn them down to get rid of them.  Otherwise they'll appeal to warm fuzzies and all those commie pinko smart people will just donate and volunteer and whatever, like they do for NPR.

My local library had a table of books they'd like people to donate.  (Read: "We depleted our meager funds buying these; if you reimburse us, we will put a little 'donated by... in honor/memory of...' sticker in the front."). And those clever bastards included the edition of HHGTTG with the illustrations by Chris Liddell, which I couldn't very well pass up the opportunity to give them $14 and donate it in memory of Douglas Adams himself, having actually met him at a signing decades ago.

(Then they couldn't even make change for a $20, further demonstrating how cash-strapped they are.)
 
2022-01-03 12:44:35 PM  
Beware, fellow plutocrats, the pitchforks are coming | Nick Hanauer
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2022-01-03 12:46:01 PM  
opps wrong thread
 
2022-01-03 12:55:27 PM  

mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole


Why did you have to do that?
 
2022-01-03 12:58:53 PM  

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Well, at least Ohio is trying to investigate these problems and find solutions.  So, it is now 2022.  What solutions have you found Ohio????
 
2022-01-03 1:02:03 PM  

dbirchall: Even if they knew what a lieberry was, they'd have to burn them down to get rid of them.  Otherwise they'll appeal to warm fuzzies and all those commie pinko smart people will just donate and volunteer and whatever, like they do for NPR.


The only book Republicans need is the Bible, and most of them still need to have it read to them
 
2022-01-03 1:03:54 PM  

mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole


Having worked in a computer lab on campus in college, I would have to ask you if you're sure that the person wasn't someone studying health or human sexuality because there is such a thing as academic freedom and he might have been looking at that for research purposes.
 
2022-01-03 1:07:45 PM  
That Mike Cooper guy should talk to a social worker at the Indianapolis Public Library.
 
2022-01-03 1:10:18 PM  

desertgeek: mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole

Having worked in a computer lab on campus in college, I would have to ask you if you're sure that the person wasn't someone studying health or human sexuality because there is such a thing as academic freedom and he might have been looking at that for research purposes.


Yeah, he may have been studying for a gastroenterology final exam.

/no pun intended
 
2022-01-03 1:16:19 PM  

desertgeek: mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole

Having worked in a computer lab on campus in college, I would have to ask you if you're sure that the person wasn't someone studying health or human sexuality because there is such a thing as academic freedom and he might have been looking at that for research purposes.


-Your pants are around your ankles!
-I like to be comfortable while I study. It's hot in this room.
-And what's with the bottle of baby oil?
-Sorry. I meant to bring Diet Pepsi, but was in a hurry.
-You we're muttering, "Yeah, take it!"
-Yes, I'm going to take the MCAT this spring. Gotta stay psyched!
 
2022-01-03 1:18:32 PM  
Welcome to your new job as a librarian. Now you may have to go full pulp fiction on a homeless drug addict that's ODing on fentanyl. Here's your kit. Oh and we have a bed bug change area for you to burn your clothes in and free paper gowns when you leave. We've cut your budget. Have a nice day!
 
2022-01-03 1:18:38 PM  

desertgeek: mufhugger: I worked in a computer lab in college and had to kick a guy out for looking at close up videos of anuses. He acted like I was the asshole

Having worked in a computer lab on campus in college, I would have to ask you if you're sure that the person wasn't someone studying health or human sexuality because there is such a thing as academic freedom and he might have been looking at that for research purposes.


Hey man, I was just following the rules
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2022-01-03 1:23:34 PM  
in the library computer


"It's *in* the computer??"


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2022-01-03 1:26:26 PM  
Could libraries set up content filtering? Is that akin to burning books? My work proxy directs you to a site that allows you to request access to the site if you feel it shouldn't be blocked.

I should invest in a firewall for libraries.
 
2022-01-03 1:37:27 PM  

Devo: Could libraries set up content filtering? Is that akin to burning books? My work proxy directs you to a site that allows you to request access to the site if you feel it shouldn't be blocked.

I should invest in a firewall for libraries.


I'm on the board of my local library.  We definitely have computers that have limits on what can be viewed.  They're in the children's section.  But if parents are willing to sign off on a kid getting full access to the grown up section, that's up to them.
 
2022-01-03 1:42:55 PM  

Mega Steve: dbirchall: Even if they knew what a lieberry was, they'd have to burn them down to get rid of them.  Otherwise they'll appeal to warm fuzzies and all those commie pinko smart people will just donate and volunteer and whatever, like they do for NPR.

The only book Republicans need is the Bible, and most of them still need to have it read to them


That's why churches aren't taxed
 
2022-01-03 1:46:32 PM  

Fabric_Man: -You we're muttering, "Yeah, take it!"
-Yes, I'm going to take the MCAT this spring. Gotta stay psyched!


Good luck on the written portion
 
2022-01-03 2:51:23 PM  
Oh, that's charming. They still have libraries? With all those packets of dismembered trees in them? Gosh, I'm almost minded to get the horse hitched up and take a buggy ride into town. Do they carry a print-out of Fark and a telegraph desk for replies?
 
2022-01-03 2:51:54 PM  
Sometimes you've got to go where your customers are.
 
2022-01-03 3:20:22 PM  

ltdanman44: opps wrong thread


There is no wrong thread for that.
 
2022-01-03 3:29:11 PM  

chitownmike: Fabric_Man: -You we're muttering, "Yeah, take it!"
-Yes, I'm going to take the MCAT this spring. Gotta stay psyched!

Good luck on the written portion


Does bad handwriting work for you or against you on the MCAT?
 
2022-01-03 3:37:20 PM  

lizaardvark: Oh, that's charming. They still have libraries? With all those packets of dismembered trees in them? Gosh, I'm almost minded to get the horse hitched up and take a buggy ride into town. Do they carry a print-out of Fark and a telegraph desk for replies?


Oh look, it's a baby troll.

You'll do better next time.
 
2022-01-03 3:46:43 PM  

Mega Steve: dbirchall: Even if they knew what a lieberry was, they'd have to burn them down to get rid of them.  Otherwise they'll appeal to warm fuzzies and all those commie pinko smart people will just donate and volunteer and whatever, like they do for NPR.

The only book Republicans need is the Bible, and most of them still need to have it read to them


Even if it was read to them, they still wouldn't understand it.
 
2022-01-03 4:03:47 PM  

lizaardvark: Oh, that's charming. They still have libraries? With all those packets of dismembered trees in them? Gosh, I'm almost minded to get the horse hitched up and take a buggy ride into town. Do they carry a print-out of Fark and a telegraph desk for replies?


Ikr, it's almost as outdated as being pointlessly snarky on the internet for attention.
 
2022-01-03 4:23:16 PM  

beezeltown: I worked a block from the main library branch here for several years. I would frequently eat lunch then head to the library to read magazines or peruse the stacks on my lunch. It was nice.

There was always a population of homeless individuals who would hang out there. As long as they weren't eating, drinking, sleeping or causing a disturbance (like any patron), no problem.

At some point, though, it went from a handful hanging out to hundreds. The area outside the library became dangerous with frequent muggings and assaults. The interior became infested with bedbugs.

The library became a defacto homeless shelter. It more or less ceased to be a place where people checked out books or spent time reading.

It makes sense to have social workers deployed where they are needed. It also makes sense to create places where homeless may shelter and receive services. But it does suck when the library can no longer (safely) be used as a library.


The decline of the public good as a concept in this country has led, among other things, to the "privatization / paywalling" of public spaces.  Malls are closing, parks sold off & privatized.  Mental hospitals are quintuple-damned by underfunding, understaffing, stigmatization, inaccessibility, and closures. There ceases to be any space in public where people can exist without being charged for the privilege or evicted out of hand immediately.  If libraries are going to be among the last, they're going to fill up with the homeless, the mentally ill, and the otherwise disadvantaged.

The One Percent will drill down, destroying public services & programs systematically until even Social Security is gone.  The future is Mad Max but with traffic and digital billboards, and you still have to go to work on Monday, if you can get past the Road Warriors, that is.  Everyone for themselves, in the midst of a high-tech nightmare that could've been a utopia if not for the greed of a few.
 
2022-01-03 5:04:11 PM  

aungen: lizaardvark: Oh, that's charming. They still have libraries? With all those packets of dismembered trees in them? Gosh, I'm almost minded to get the horse hitched up and take a buggy ride into town. Do they carry a print-out of Fark and a telegraph desk for replies?

Oh look, it's a baby troll.

You'll do better next time.


Damn, beat me by that much!
 
2022-01-03 5:30:29 PM  

TheOtherGuy: Everyone for themselves, in the midst of a high-tech nightmare that could've been a utopia if not for the greed of a few.


Sorry TheOtherGuy, it is more than a few. None of the bias in our society would exist without the approval (whether explicit or implicit) of the majority or it would not be there. I have yet to see a mob of the majority race in this country march armed down the street with the intent to force better race relations. And, I have yet to see the majority in this country do anything to address the massive inequity in our society.

/before any of you bring up some isolated, local incident, I am referring to efforts that actually create change
//not some cheap bandage on a amputation
///I am still amazed that, with the level of inequity present in our society, that we are still so brainwashed as to believe that unfettered capitalism has nothing to do with it. Because when no one actually addresses it, that means we only disagree with it to a point.
 
2022-01-03 5:45:56 PM  

payattention: I have yet to see a mob of the majority race in this country march armed down the street with the intent to force better race relations


I think that's because that tactic simply doesn't work.  You can't use the methods of the enemy in the battle for a culture's soul.  That works fine in the military because your objectives - kill the other guy, or at least render them unwilling or unable to kill you - are essentially identical at the most basic level.

That's not true for social justice (OMG I actually had to use that phrase appropriately in a sentence... I am gonna get SO flamed...).  You can scare & intimidate people into bigotry; you can't use the same tactics to make them stop.  It's the same reason there isn't a "common sense news network" to oppose Faux News, using all the propaganda techniques but for "good".  Because propaganda can only spread lies, not truth.  Force can only spread hate, not love & understanding. And we have yet to come up with and/or apply the same vast resources to any technique of doing so that is as effective as the force & lies of the other side.
 
2022-01-03 5:46:04 PM  

payattention: Sorry TheOtherGuy, it is more than a few. None of the bias in our society would exist without the approval (whether explicit or implicit) of the majority or it would not be there. I have yet to see a mob of the majority race in this country march armed down the street with the intent to force better race relations. And, I have yet to see the majority in this country do anything to address the massive inequity in our society.


Unfortunately the "majority" that matters also has all the aircraft, tanks and bombs.
 
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