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2022-01-02 2:41:07 PM  
I live at the confluence of I-40 and I-75, not right on the pavement, but close, and I rarely go anywhere without traveling one interstate or the other. It amazes me the way people pull in front of semitrucks or brake check these semitrucks, like they can stop on a dime. I couldn't bear it, if I were a truck driver. I would need a giant "F*ck You" written backwards across the truck's grill that I could light up at will, so that idiots could read that happy message in their rear view.
 
2022-01-02 3:18:03 PM  
Trucking seemed like  a good paying job where you could be out on your own supervision free. Great for independent minded folks who don't need an office.

I must be thinking of long ago.
 
2022-01-02 3:27:36 PM  
Lessee, y'all have run the independents out, and now you're looking for folks not invested in hauling your sh*t, and you've cut the profit for doing so razor thin, so...congrats, you got what y'all asked for.
 
2022-01-02 3:28:26 PM  

Biscuit Tin: I would need a giant "F*ck You" written backwards across the truck's grill that I could light up at will, so that idiots could read that happy message in their rear view.


That seems a bit...

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2022-01-02 3:58:11 PM  

edmo: Trucking seemed like  a good paying job where you could be out on your own supervision free. Great for independent minded folks who don't need an office.

I must be thinking of long ago.


It was great long ago. Most all truck drivers being in a strong union helped A LOT.


/ dad was a Teamster

 
2022-01-02 4:01:40 PM  

Biscuit Tin: I live at the confluence of I-40 and I-75, not right on the pavement, but close, and I rarely go anywhere without traveling one interstate or the other. It amazes me the way people pull in front of semitrucks or brake check these semitrucks, like they can stop on a dime. I couldn't bear it, if I were a truck driver. I would need a giant "F*ck You" written backwards across the truck's grill that I could light up at will, so that idiots could read that happy message in their rear view.


You're not wrong.

When did courtesy and rules of the road concerning trucks (and in general) like flashing high beams when passing or to let someone pass stop getting handed down from generation to generation?

 
2022-01-02 5:25:26 PM  
But truck driving also isn't the job it used to be. In the United States, for example, deregulation of the industry, which accelerated in the 1980s...


I always grate at that terminology. A huge chunk of what truckers are supposed to do has been far from "deregulated." What got "deregulated" was the ability to enter the business and obtain operating authority. That started the price race downward, and with it training, experience, maintenance, and incentive to comply with the regulations.

 
2022-01-02 5:27:09 PM  
If you stick with it, you can finish your career semi-retired.
 
2022-01-02 5:35:25 PM  
In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.
 
2022-01-02 5:45:01 PM  
Why would a 21 year old choose a career that will be obsolete the instant they perfect the autonomous truck?
 
2022-01-02 5:46:04 PM  
Smokeys got em.
 
2022-01-02 5:51:38 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Biscuit Tin: I would need a giant "F*ck You" written backwards across the truck's grill that I could light up at will, so that idiots could read that happy message in their rear view.

That seems a bit...

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This was a great movie when it came out. The clips at the end where guys were getting their wrists snapped and popping their biceps didn't impede people where I live from arm wrestling contests at the local bars. There was a rash of incidents so bad that there was a local ordinance enacted against it. In short, grown men really shouldn't arm wrestle. When you get locked down tight, and someone then decides to throw everything behind in one last push, the torsion can snap your bones.


TLDR: Up and down good. Twist bad.

 
2022-01-02 5:54:11 PM  

Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.


Economists are usually reductionists of one stripe another.  Or as we like to say, "Wrong."
 
2022-01-02 5:56:41 PM  
I literally just quit my trucking job today. So getting a kick.


/Just couldn't farking put up with it anymore.

 
2022-01-02 5:57:05 PM  

lindalouwho: Biscuit Tin: I live at the confluence of I-40 and I-75, not right on the pavement, but close, and I rarely go anywhere without traveling one interstate or the other. It amazes me the way people pull in front of semitrucks or brake check these semitrucks, like they can stop on a dime. I couldn't bear it, if I were a truck driver. I would need a giant "F*ck You" written backwards across the truck's grill that I could light up at will, so that idiots could read that happy message in their rear view.

You're not wrong.When did courtesy and rules of the road concerning trucks (and in general) like flashing high beams when passing or to let someone pass stop getting handed down from generation to generation?


My niece giggled when I showed her hand signals for turn signals. She couldn't believe they were real.
 
2022-01-02 6:02:40 PM  

Pharmdawg: Sin_City_Superhero: Biscuit Tin: I would need a giant "F*ck You" written backwards across the truck's grill that I could light up at will, so that idiots could read that happy message in their rear view.

That seems a bit...

[th.bing.com image 474x266]

This was a great movie when it came out. The clips at the end where guys were getting their wrists snapped and popping their biceps didn't impede people where I live from arm wrestling contests at the local bars. There was a rash of incidents so bad that there was a local ordinance enacted against it. In short, grown men really shouldn't arm wrestle. When you get locked down tight, and someone then decides to throw everything behind in one last push, the torsion can snap your bones.

TLDR: Up and down good. Twist bad.


Hmm I did not know that about arm wrestling.  I just thought of it as some non serious display of strength.
 
2022-01-02 6:08:25 PM  

Fabric_Man: ...like the economists were... wrong.


Classic economics are based on the idea that people make rational decisions.  When my macro professor said this, I started laughing.  When I stopped, he said something along the line of, "Well, we have to start somewhere."

I did not say, "If your basic concepts are proven wrong over and over and you don't change them, you have a cult, not a science."
 
2022-01-02 6:20:45 PM  
My brother seems to be doing well this year; he cleared 150k driving to LA and back. They did up the rates.
 
2022-01-02 6:21:00 PM  
If you asks 5 economists a question you will get 10 different answers..
 
2022-01-02 6:27:12 PM  

edmo: supervision free.

I must be thinking of long ago.


Yeah, that was a long time ago. They have all sorts of supervision these days.
 
2022-01-02 6:29:03 PM  

edmo: Trucking seemed like  a good paying job where you could be out on your own supervision free. Great for independent minded folks who don't need an office.

I must be thinking of long ago.


Walmart only pays truckers about $90,000/yr https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/walmart-is-hiring-hundreds-of-truck-drivers-and-paying-them-close-to-90000-a-year.html
 
2022-01-02 6:34:48 PM  

natazha: Fabric_Man: ...like the economists were... wrong.

Classic economics are based on the idea that people make rational decisions.  When my macro professor said this, I started laughing.  When I stopped, he said something along the line of, "Well, we have to start somewhere."

I did not say, "If your basic concepts are proven wrong over and over and you don't change them, you have a cult, not a science."


Pretty much. Too many businesses encounter a paradigm shift, dig their heels in and proudly and confidently drive their company to failure. If their business model worked yesterday, it should obviously work today and tomorrow. People just don't want to work.

I'm not out of touch, it is the children workers who are wrong.
 
2022-01-02 6:39:09 PM  

Psychopompous: Why would a 21 year old choose a career that will be obsolete the instant they perfect the autonomous truck?


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2022-01-02 6:43:40 PM  

Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.


You are assuming a static labor force. The US allows over 1 million permanent legal workers in ever year, the most in the world. https://www.oecd.org/migration/mig/oecdmigrationdatabases.htm

Add in the illegal workers, and you have the largest immigrant population in the world, 50 million. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country

As the supply of labor increases, the price of labor goes down. US corporations know this, so they have been importing millions of workers for over 200 years. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/dominos-ceo-us-needs-more-immigration-to-address-worker-shortages.html

They have even managed to convince most of the lowest paid workers to cheer when this happens. Even convinced them that the law of supply and demand was a joke.

The Law of Supply and Demand is a cruel mistress. Like the law of gravity, there are consequences for ignoring it.

"Economics is a subject that does not greatly respect one's wishes." Nikita Khrushchev, Premier - USSR
 
2022-01-02 6:48:14 PM  

natazha: Fabric_Man: ...like the economists were... wrong.

Classic economics are based on the idea that people make rational decisions.  When my macro professor said this, I started laughing.  When I stopped, he said something along the line of, "Well, we have to start somewhere."

I did not say, "If your basic concepts are proven wrong over and over and you don't change them, you have a cult, not a science."


Similar fallacy: when you pay less, people work less; when you pay more, people work more.

What a load of horseshiat.

And they build economic models on such crap.

 
2022-01-02 6:50:33 PM  

CCNP: Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.

You are assuming a static labor force. The US allows over 1 million permanent legal workers in ever year, the most in the world. https://www.oecd.org/migration/mig/oecdmigrationdatabases.htm

Add in the illegal workers, and you have the largest immigrant population in the world, 50 million. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country

As the supply of labor increases, the price of labor goes down. US corporations know this, so they have been importing millions of workers for over 200 years. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/dominos-ceo-us-needs-more-immigration-to-address-worker-shortages.html

They have even managed to convince most of the lowest paid workers to cheer when this happens. Even convinced them that the law of supply and demand was a joke.

The Law of Supply and Demand is a cruel mistress. Like the law of gravity, there are consequences for ignoring it.

"Economics is a subject that does not greatly respect one's wishes." Nikita Khrushchev, Premier - USSR


Are you insinuating that we should be limiting immigration? Because all of this reads like fascism, honestly.
 
2022-01-02 7:07:22 PM  
The govt and Dept of Transportation should push hard to automate interstate trucking as a nationwide infrastructure project.


Take a lot of awful truck drivers off the highways in the process. Automated trucks have no need to pass each other constantly or swing their dicks around on the road, and would prioritize safety of others & efficient predictability above speed and all else.

 
2022-01-02 7:10:11 PM  
The best part of workers refusing to work shiatty jobs, is it means this:

Ever sinlge American who says they joined the armed forces and fought in Iraq and Afghanistan because enlisting was their only option for a job is now exposed as the liar they obviously always have been.

Racist farks. They were never forced to kill Muslim kids. They did it because it was the job they preferred, over moving to where the jobs are, over just working more hours at a slightly lower paying job.

Racist, child targeting farks. The whole country.
 
2022-01-02 7:25:44 PM  

edmo: Trucking seemed like  a good paying job where you could be out on your own supervision free. Great for independent minded folks who don't need an office.

I must be thinking of long ago.


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2022-01-02 7:37:38 PM  
I recall watching a segment on a prime time news show over 20 years ago about how difficult it was to be a truck driver. There's way to much pressure to transport goods as quickly as possible making it impossible to get enough sleep for shiatty. That's just a couple of the problems but they're a doozies. After seeing that I've always been patient about letting them merge, etc.
 
2022-01-02 7:42:27 PM  

austerity101: CCNP: Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.

You are assuming a static labor force. The US allows over 1 million permanent legal workers in ever year, the most in the world. https://www.oecd.org/migration/mig/oecdmigrationdatabases.htm

Add in the illegal workers, and you have the largest immigrant population in the world, 50 million. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country

As the supply of labor increases, the price of labor goes down. US corporations know this, so they have been importing millions of workers for over 200 years. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/dominos-ceo-us-needs-more-immigration-to-address-worker-shortages.html

They have even managed to convince most of the lowest paid workers to cheer when this happens. Even convinced them that the law of supply and demand was a joke.

The Law of Supply and Demand is a cruel mistress. Like the law of gravity, there are consequences for ignoring it.

"Economics is a subject that does not greatly respect one's wishes." Nikita Khrushchev, Premier - USSR

Are you insinuating that we should be limiting immigration? Because all of this reads like fascism, honestly.


Nah, I'm doing pretty well. I'm a network engineer, working from home. I'm heavily invested in the corporations, so I do well when they do well. The more workers they exploit, the richer I get.

But the people at the bottom don't do so well with an infinitely increasing supply of unskilled labor. The price of their labor goes down when the supply increases. But hey, follow your feelings.
 
2022-01-02 7:50:35 PM  

GregInIndy: The govt and Dept of Transportation should push hard to automate interstate trucking as a nationwide infrastructure project.

Take a lot of awful truck drivers off the highways in the process. Automated trucks have no need to pass each other constantly or swing their dicks around on the road, and would prioritize safety of others & efficient predictability above speed and all else.


What are country farks going to write songs about?  Driving Ubers?  Coding?  "Papa drove a Lyft nearly all his life, you know it drove mama crazy being ride-share wife...". Then think of the Midwest and south... That meth doesn't buy itself.  Think of the lot-lizards.  We'll have feral hookers trying to become insta influencers.

This is a delicate ecosystem and you're going to destroy it!
 
2022-01-02 8:00:37 PM  

Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.


The economists assumed people would act sensibly. Instead, people got greedy.
 
2022-01-02 8:00:54 PM  

austerity101: CCNP: Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.

You are assuming a static labor force. The US allows over 1 million permanent legal workers in ever year, the most in the world. https://www.oecd.org/migration/mig/oecdmigrationdatabases.htm

Add in the illegal workers, and you have the largest immigrant population in the world, 50 million. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country

As the supply of labor increases, the price of labor goes down. US corporations know this, so they have been importing millions of workers for over 200 years. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/dominos-ceo-us-needs-more-immigration-to-address-worker-shortages.html

They have even managed to convince most of the lowest paid workers to cheer when this happens. Even convinced them that the law of supply and demand was a joke.

The Law of Supply and Demand is a cruel mistress. Like the law of gravity, there are consequences for ignoring it.

"Economics is a subject that does not greatly respect one's wishes." Nikita Khrushchev, Premier - USSR

Are you insinuating that we should be limiting immigration? Because all of this reads like fascism, honestly.


Well then every country in western Europe, and Japan, Asia, Australia, etc are all facists
 
2022-01-02 8:07:36 PM  

Psychopompous: Why would a 21 year old choose a career that will be obsolete the instant they perfect the autonomous truck?


"Career"


Working somewhere 3 to 5 years isn't a career, it's a way to afford goods and services by acquiring money and finding out where else you can work.

 
2022-01-02 8:10:02 PM  
I've worked with the industry but not as a driver twice in the last 20 years.

Every company I've ever seen is corrupt, engaged in illegal practices and run by world class assholes. And most of the white drivers, these days anyway, are racist right wing conspiracy theory junkies who have nothing better to do all day but listen to batshiat crazy right wing radio and podcasts and believe every word of it.
 
2022-01-02 8:14:20 PM  

CCNP: austerity101: CCNP: Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.

You are assuming a static labor force. The US allows over 1 million permanent legal workers in ever year, the most in the world. https://www.oecd.org/migration/mig/oecdmigrationdatabases.htm

Add in the illegal workers, and you have the largest immigrant population in the world, 50 million. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country

As the supply of labor increases, the price of labor goes down. US corporations know this, so they have been importing millions of workers for over 200 years. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/dominos-ceo-us-needs-more-immigration-to-address-worker-shortages.html

They have even managed to convince most of the lowest paid workers to cheer when this happens. Even convinced them that the law of supply and demand was a joke.

The Law of Supply and Demand is a cruel mistress. Like the law of gravity, there are consequences for ignoring it.

"Economics is a subject that does not greatly respect one's wishes." Nikita Khrushchev, Premier - USSR

Are you insinuating that we should be limiting immigration? Because all of this reads like fascism, honestly.

Nah, I'm doing pretty well. I'm a network engineer, working from home. I'm heavily invested in the corporations, so I do well when they do well. The more workers they exploit, the richer I get.

But the people at the bottom don't do so well with an infinitely increasing supply of unskilled labor. The price of their labor goes down when the supply increases. But hey, follow your feelings.


So what are you suggesting, then? Because it definitely looks like you're saying we need to limit immigration, as opposed to protect wages and prosecute people who illegally hire undocumented workers.
 
2022-01-02 8:50:56 PM  
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This is like a trucker movie written by David Lynch.  It's just so uncomfortable.  I recommend the Rifftrax version.  It's free on Amazon.

 
2022-01-02 9:08:32 PM  
OK if you're not gonna explain yourself, then bye.
 
2022-01-02 9:09:46 PM  

austerity101: So what are you suggesting, then? Because it definitely looks like you're saying we need to limit immigration, as opposed to protect wages and prosecute people who illegally hire undocumented workers.


I'm with you. Lets vote to repeal the law of supply and demand.
 
2022-01-02 9:42:37 PM  

Chabash: My brother seems to be doing well this year; he cleared 150k driving to LA and back. They did up the rates.


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2022-01-02 9:44:05 PM  

lindalouwho: Biscuit Tin: I live at the confluence of I-40 and I-75, not right on the pavement, but close, and I rarely go anywhere without traveling one interstate or the other. It amazes me the way people pull in front of semitrucks or brake check these semitrucks, like they can stop on a dime. I couldn't bear it, if I were a truck driver. I would need a giant "F*ck You" written backwards across the truck's grill that I could light up at will, so that idiots could read that happy message in their rear view.

You're not wrong.
When did courtesy and rules of the road concerning trucks (and in general) like flashing high beams when passing or to let someone pass stop getting handed down from generation to generation?


The young'uns have been going to the dogs since Cain and Abel.

Bye Bye Birdie - What's the Matter With Kids Today
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2022-01-02 9:44:45 PM  
I walked past the Coca-Cola bottling plant in Downtown LA the other day.  There was a sign offering a $10 thousand dollar signing bonus for truckers.
 
2022-01-02 9:52:18 PM  
There's a good episode of NPR'S Planet Money podcast titled "Big Rigged".


In addition to the shiat working conditions, a lot of people are getting suckered in as independent owner-operators.

 
2022-01-02 9:55:19 PM  

aerojockey: I walked past the Coca-Cola bottling plant in Downtown LA the other day.  There was a sign offering a $10 thousand dollar signing bonus for truckers.


It isn't in downtown LA the main plant via LA in is south central where it navigates into Compton , or another major plant is in Downey, CA.
 
2022-01-02 10:22:00 PM  

Misch: There's a good episode of NPR'S Planet Money podcast titled "Big Rigged".

In addition to the shiat working conditions, a lot of people are getting suckered in as independent owner-operators.


You mean truckers owning the means of production? Yea, sounds horrible.
 
2022-01-02 10:35:11 PM  

CCNP: Misch: There's a good episode of NPR'S Planet Money podcast titled "Big Rigged".

In addition to the shiat working conditions, a lot of people are getting suckered in as independent owner-operators.

You mean truckers owning the means of production? Yea, sounds horrible.


More like the trucking companies owning the truckers. They owe out the wazoo on their trucks, and end up in de facto peonage as a result.
 
2022-01-02 10:35:11 PM  

CCNP: austerity101: CCNP: Fabric_Man: In classical economics, whenever there's a shortage of workers, the price of labor would increase, while the demand for labor would decrease, until there was equilibrium. So truck driver wages would go up a little, and companies would find ways to use fewer truckloads.

And yet, this never seems to happen. Resources get allocated inefficiently and the market fails. And not just once. There's housing costs, teacher shortages, an army of farkwits trying to be bloggers... It's almost like...

[glances over shoulder]

...like the economists were... wrong.

You are assuming a static labor force. The US allows over 1 million permanent legal workers in ever year, the most in the world. https://www.oecd.org/migration/mig/oecdmigrationdatabases.htm

Add in the illegal workers, and you have the largest immigrant population in the world, 50 million. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country

As the supply of labor increases, the price of labor goes down. US corporations know this, so they have been importing millions of workers for over 200 years. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/dominos-ceo-us-needs-more-immigration-to-address-worker-shortages.html

They have even managed to convince most of the lowest paid workers to cheer when this happens. Even convinced them that the law of supply and demand was a joke.

The Law of Supply and Demand is a cruel mistress. Like the law of gravity, there are consequences for ignoring it.

"Economics is a subject that does not greatly respect one's wishes." Nikita Khrushchev, Premier - USSR

Are you insinuating that we should be limiting immigration? Because all of this reads like fascism, honestly.

Nah, I'm doing pretty well. I'm a network engineer, working from home. I'm heavily invested in the corporations, so I do well when they do well. The more workers they exploit, the richer I get.

But the people at the bottom don't do so well with an infinitely increasing supply of unskilled labor. The price of their labor goes down when the supply increases. But hey, follow your feelings.


There is no such thing as "unskilled labor."


There is only the artificial devaluing of specific classes of skills in order to drive wages down.


You aren't immune to this either. The day they fire you and replace you with an H1B from Bombay who will do the same job for half your salary is two years too late for you to realize this.

 
2022-01-02 10:37:40 PM  

CCNP: Misch: There's a good episode of NPR'S Planet Money podcast titled "Big Rigged".

In addition to the shiat working conditions, a lot of people are getting suckered in as independent owner-operators.

You mean truckers owning the means of production? Yea, sounds horrible.


It's not "ownership" if the purchase is entirely debt based. You don't own that truck, the banks do.
 
2022-01-02 10:50:22 PM  
I thought about being an OTR truck driver decades ago, I find driving meditative and you can make decent money doing it.  The catch is that you basically live in the truck, shower at gas stations and when it comes to romance... lot lizards are the lowest class of hooker.

You can work your way into being a local truck driver, or get a designated route that lets you sleep in your own bed half the time, but then the decent pay goes right out the window as everybody wants those jobs.

There's also no future in it, self driving trucks are already in the pipeline.
 
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