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2022-01-02 4:03:57 AM  
I'm safe!
 
2022-01-02 5:08:00 AM  
Farkers safe joke incomings 3, 2, 1 ...
 
2022-01-02 5:08:22 AM  
I was social distancing long before it was cool.

But I'm seeing very little mask use among coworkers lately.. good thing I tend to only see them at the ends of shifts, then.
 
2022-01-02 5:11:27 AM  
My bad guys.  I'll stop being so charismatic.
 
2022-01-02 5:31:04 AM  

jaivirtualcard: Farkers safe joke incomings 3, 2, 1 ...


Ok boomer.
 
2022-01-02 5:32:55 AM  
Extroverts will be the death of us all.
 
2022-01-02 5:39:08 AM  

jaivirtualcard: Farkers safe joke incomings 3, 2, 1 ...


Is my patheticness a joke to you cool people who have friends? Enjoy your Covid, cool guy, I'm safe.
 
2022-01-02 5:53:36 AM  
Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid


Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.

 
2022-01-02 5:58:13 AM  

BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid

Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.


Where are you getting this?
 
2022-01-02 6:03:29 AM  

BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid
Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.


What's that gotta do with the article?
 
2022-01-02 6:13:49 AM  

Alphax: BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid

Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.

Where are you getting this?


I read the f*cking article.
 
2022-01-02 6:15:52 AM  

jaivirtualcard: BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid
Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.

What's that gotta do with the article?


The number came FROM the article, genius.


"The US seven-day average for pediatric hospitalizations increased 58%, to 334"


The number of children hospitalized due to Covid is ridiculously low. Outliers.  Not common.  Rare.

 
2022-01-02 6:17:53 AM  

BunchaRubes: Alphax: BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid

Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.

Where are you getting this?

I read the f*cking article.


It doesn't say across the whole US.  It doesn't give any context at all.
 
2022-01-02 6:21:18 AM  
Oh look, an account created 13 days ago has strong opinions about things.
 
2022-01-02 6:28:06 AM  


"During the week of Dec. 21-27, an average of 334 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 58% increase from the week before, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."


Admitted per day ≠ total in hospitals at any one time.


If the average stay is a week, you're up to 2,200.


Which remains low overall.


At the same time, hospitals hardly need more to deal with, and we are early into omicron so we should probably brace for a big increase when Christmas holiday spreading shifts to schools back in business.


But hospitalized kids can probably be reasonably expected to be rare relative to total kids who get it.

 
2022-01-02 6:33:46 AM  

BunchaRubes: jaivirtualcard: BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid
Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.

What's that gotta do with the article?

The number came FROM the article, genius.
"The US seven-day average for pediatric hospitalizations increased 58%, to 334"
The number of children hospitalized due to Covid is ridiculously low. Outliers.  Not common.  Rare.


Hmmm. My comment was not with regards to that number.


My comment was with regards to the thread title "People with social lives driving the skyrocketing case counts"


Not sure what the thread title has to do with the article.


/Didn't RTFA the first time

 
2022-01-02 6:41:43 AM  
BunchaRubes:

Get out of here with your facts. It's COVID, there's only one proper response.


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2022-01-02 6:58:03 AM  
Yup. Every time I go to the climbing gym, it's the 20-somethings that aren't wearing masks. Luckily it's been pretty dead, so keeping away from them has been easy.
 
2022-01-02 7:00:42 AM  

question_dj: Yup. Every time I go to the climbing gym, it's the 20-somethings that aren't wearing masks. Luckily it's been pretty dead, so keeping away from them has been easy.


Why would you go to a gym right now at all if you are worried about covid?
 
2022-01-02 7:10:29 AM  

Smackledorfer: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/health/number-of-u-s-children-hospitalized-with-covid-hits-near-record-high

"During the week of Dec. 21-27, an average of 334 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 58% increase from the week before, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

Admitted per day ≠ total in hospitals at any one time.

If the average stay is a week, you're up to 2,200.

Which remains low overall.

At the same time, hospitals hardly need more to deal with, and we are early into omicron so we should probably brace for a big increase when Christmas holiday spreading shifts to schools back in business.

But hospitalized kids can probably be reasonably expected to be rare relative to total kids who get it.


NBC news 4 days ago: "
"We test anybody who's admitted to the hospital for whatever reason to see whether or not they have Covid, and we're definitely seeing an increase in cases. However, we're really not seeing an increase in children who are hospitalized for Covid or in the intensive care unit for Covid," Offit said.
According to the Department of Health and Human Services, patients are counted among those with Covid if they are suspected of having or laboratory-confirmed positive for the disease, even if they were not originally admitted to the hospital for that reason."

Which is something Fauci verified a couple of days later in an interview with MSNBC. Most of them are hospitalized "With" Covid, not "From" Covid.
 
2022-01-02 7:16:47 AM  

Tokin42: Smackledorfer: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/health/number-of-u-s-children-hospitalized-with-covid-hits-near-record-high

"During the week of Dec. 21-27, an average of 334 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 58% increase from the week before, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

Admitted per day ≠ total in hospitals at any one time.

If the average stay is a week, you're up to 2,200.

Which remains low overall.

At the same time, hospitals hardly need more to deal with, and we are early into omicron so we should probably brace for a big increase when Christmas holiday spreading shifts to schools back in business.

But hospitalized kids can probably be reasonably expected to be rare relative to total kids who get it.

NBC news 4 days ago: "
"We test anybody who's admitted to the hospital for whatever reason to see whether or not they have Covid, and we're definitely seeing an increase in cases. However, we're really not seeing an increase in children who are hospitalized for Covid or in the intensive care unit for Covid," Offit said.
According to the Department of Health and Human Services, patients are counted among those with Covid if they are suspected of having or laboratory-confirmed positive for the disease, even if they were not originally admitted to the hospital for that reason."

Which is something Fauci verified a couple of days later in an interview with MSNBC. Most of them are hospitalized "With" Covid, not "From" Covid.


That's good news (fewer endangered kids is always better), though it really doesn't change things:


Either way the total number of infected kids went up a bunch (assuming no change in testing criteria between compared periods) and demonstrates increased disease spread overall.


Either way total number of kids hurt by covid is a rounding error.


To be clear, I'm not arguing with ya, and appreciate the additional info.

 
2022-01-02 7:25:05 AM  
social lives

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2022-01-02 7:37:52 AM  
I've been all over the Midwest and Southeast visiting friends and family over the last 2 weeks.  Probably in close contact with 100 people all of whom claim to be vaxxed. I also saw the Nutcracker, went to a children's museum, went to a lights festival, and ate at several restaurants.  I would not be surprised if I was infected at this point with as contagious as Omicron appears.   My kid's school is offering free tests tomorrow so I'll find out by Wednesday.
 
2022-01-02 7:39:19 AM  

Smackledorfer: question_dj: Yup. Every time I go to the climbing gym, it's the 20-somethings that aren't wearing masks. Luckily it's been pretty dead, so keeping away from them has been easy.

Why would you go to a gym right now at all if you are worried about covid?


I've been going to the gym since June of 2020, and have worn a mask. In addition to being fully vaccinated and boosted. Still haven't gotten COVID, but I do have a rocking juniper allergy.


There are sone people that are comfortable with objective risk, because of risk mitigation techniques, like mask wearing, hand washing, and social distancing.


You'll shiat your pants once you learn how many physicians and nurses use risk mitigation techniques to continue to live their lives despite there being an infectious disease going around. I know because that's who I climb with. Doctors that treat COVID patients.

 
2022-01-02 7:42:29 AM  

question_dj: Smackledorfer: question_dj: Yup. Every time I go to the climbing gym, it's the 20-somethings that aren't wearing masks. Luckily it's been pretty dead, so keeping away from them has been easy.

Why would you go to a gym right now at all if you are worried about covid?

I've been going to the gym since June of 2020, and have worn a mask. In addition to being fully vaccinated and boosted. Still haven't gotten COVID, but I do have a rocking juniper allergy.
There are sone people that are comfortable with objective risk, because of risk mitigation techniques, like mask wearing, hand washing, and social distancing.
You'll shiat your pants once you learn how many physicians and nurses use risk mitigation techniques to continue to live their lives despite there being an infectious disease going around. I know because that's who I climb with. Doctors that treat COVID patients.


The important thing is you've determined the amount of plague spread is correct, and everyone who spreads it more is to be complained about on the internet.


/I don't believe anyone willingly goes to the gym with you, based on past posts about how you smell so bad that strangers complain to the gym about you.

 
2022-01-02 7:50:13 AM  

Smackledorfer: question_dj: Smackledorfer: question_dj: Yup. Every time I go to the climbing gym, it's the 20-somethings that aren't wearing masks. Luckily it's been pretty dead, so keeping away from them has been easy.

Why would you go to a gym right now at all if you are worried about covid?

I've been going to the gym since June of 2020, and have worn a mask. In addition to being fully vaccinated and boosted. Still haven't gotten COVID, but I do have a rocking juniper allergy.
There are sone people that are comfortable with objective risk, because of risk mitigation techniques, like mask wearing, hand washing, and social distancing.
You'll shiat your pants once you learn how many physicians and nurses use risk mitigation techniques to continue to live their lives despite there being an infectious disease going around. I know because that's who I climb with. Doctors that treat COVID patients.

The important thing is you've determined the amount of plague spread is correct, and everyone who spreads it more is to be complained about on the internet.
/I don't believe anyone willingly goes to the gym with you, based on past posts about how you smell so bad that strangers complain to the gym about you.


It's always fascinating to find out who is emotionally invested in fark, keeping track of accounts with notes and such. You must have been chomping at the bit to ad hominem about my thread on body odor. You have some cute comments about gynecomastia too?
 
2022-01-02 7:58:18 AM  

BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid

Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.


We had an article with those numbers in it, and then the very same article had wildly conflicting numbers indicating vastly more pediatric cases. My best guess is that they quoted a number from some county and bungled the text to make it seem nationwide.
 
2022-01-02 7:58:50 AM  

question_dj: You have some cute comments about gynecomastia too?


Not really.


Are you saying that's the root cause of your stank? Underboob rot?

 
2022-01-02 8:06:07 AM  

Smackledorfer: Either way total number of kids hurt by covid is a rounding error.


Probably not to their parents and grandparents and friends, and so forth.
 
2022-01-02 8:08:03 AM  

jso2897: Smackledorfer: Either way total number of kids hurt by covid is a rounding error.

Probably not to their parents and grandparents and friends, and so forth.


Insightful.
 
2022-01-02 8:26:02 AM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: BunchaRubes:

Get out of here with your facts. It's COVID, there's only one proper response.
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BR deserves a good ol' Welcome to Fark but I don't have the jpgs or gifs. Can someone help out?

/ Haha with his facts and rtfa!

 
2022-01-02 8:36:27 AM  

dammit just give me a login: Zeb Hesselgresser: BunchaRubes:

Get out of here with your facts. It's COVID, there's only one proper response.
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BR deserves a good ol' Welcome to Fark but I don't have the jpgs or gifs. Can someone help out?/ Haha with his facts and rtfa!


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2022-01-02 8:38:23 AM  

BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid
Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.


Yeah but covid.
 
2022-01-02 8:58:21 AM  
My boyfriend and I have no social lives right now. We used to enjoy going out for dinner occasionally, going to see a movie, even wandering around the mall...not anymore, at least not right now. I don't trust other people as far as I can coontpoont them. I'm almost to the point of carrying a can of Lysol with me to spray down people I see that aren't wearing masks.
 
2022-01-02 9:04:01 AM  

Alphax: BunchaRubes: Alphax: BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid

Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.

Where are you getting this?

I read the f*cking article.

It doesn't say across the whole US.  It doesn't give any context at all.


What do the words "in the entire US the total" mean to you?
 
2022-01-02 9:29:37 AM  

jso2897: Smackledorfer: Either way total number of kids hurt by covid is a rounding error.

Probably not to their parents and grandparents and friends, and so forth.


And that means a lot to them to be sure.


But one does not do national policy based on 300-something cases a week in a population of millions, when those cases experience very little in way of consequence of having contracted corona.


This is just more "ooga booga corona bad" news without context.

 
2022-01-02 9:38:26 AM  

Smackledorfer: question_dj: Yup. Every time I go to the climbing gym, it's the 20-somethings that aren't wearing masks. Luckily it's been pretty dead, so keeping away from them has been easy.

Why would you go to a gym right now at all if you are worried about covid?


Doing proper safety precautions at the climbing gym is to gain the moral highground.


See what I did there?


But yeah, if people are (exercising) in the same space for multiple hours multiple times a week, those masks are mostly decorative. The hand washing would also need to be after every climb because I very much doubt the walls get hosed down after every person going up. And it would require touching nothing on the body before the rewashing of the hands, despite sweating and what not.


Nah, anyone who goes out to any kind of gym isn't worried at all. But complaining about other people makes them feel better about themselves.

 
2022-01-02 10:14:55 AM  
That explains the counter intuitive problem of Republicans denying COVID, aggressively being anti-mask and anti-vaccination, and anti-public health basically.  You'd think they were trying to please their base with what would kill them.

There's another factor at work.  Competition.  It's not about voters. They're low level.  It's about killing the competition.   Bill's promotion becomes yours when Bill dies or becomes a long-hauler who needs someone to feed him.  It doesn't matter how the field of candidates is culled -- a socially transmitted disease is a feature not a bug.
 
2022-01-02 10:33:37 AM  
"Communicable" What does that mean? In medical terms:
"(of a disease) able to be transmitted from one sufferer to another; contagious or infectious."the fight against communicable disease"

Communicable diseases are passed from person to person either through bodily contact or contact with the body's byproducts such as waste or fluids, including mists and vapors. They can also be passed through insects or parasites. The best way to physically avoid such diseases (barring insects or parasites) is to put adequate distance or physical barriers between people such that their bodies and their products cannot come into contact with others. Vaccines, when available, are also a good line of defense when that is not possible.

Seriously people... it's been TWO F'KING YEARS. What part of "distancing and masks" do you not get?
 
2022-01-02 10:58:24 AM  
The delicious cherrypicking here is grotesque. 

"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66% increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday."

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/us-children-hospitalized-covid-record-numbers-82004052

What's that word? 

Per DAY. 

PER DAY.

P E R FSCKING D A Y. 

Simple math might escape you as it's beyond farking clear that the lump of expired vermicelli you call a brain is overworked and smouldering from the load. So, six days at 378 per (average) gives us 2268 in under a week. 

The disease tends to be logarithmic now, with its ability to infect in ten seconds, and possesses an R0 of approximately 10. 

What does R0 mean? It means for every kid who has it, they tend to infect ten others. 

So, let's take the six day average of 2268, and multiply that by ten. That gives us 22680 people infected. 

But, let's see where the daily average is for the US with Johns Hopkins: 

"A day after reporting its highest average daily Covid-19 case number, the US shattered the record Thursday, with an average of 355,990 infections reported every day in the past week, according to Johns Hopkins University."

We're off and running. Saying that it's not infecting 'many kids at all' and then lying your ass off and stating 'it's only a grand total of 378 kids" is wrong. 

Let's say it together

IS WRONG.
 
2022-01-02 12:07:03 PM  

Smackledorfer: question_dj: Yup. Every time I go to the climbing gym, it's the 20-somethings that aren't wearing masks. Luckily it's been pretty dead, so keeping away from them has been easy.

Why would you go to a gym right now at all if you are worried about covid?


He's not the problem, it's all those other people.
 
2022-01-02 1:50:24 PM  

Alphax: BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid

Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.

Where are you getting this?


Problem is every infected person whether severely sick or not is a mutation vector. The more people the higher chance of mutation. Overall cases are 10k per 100k for children in the US. Will long Covid affect them? No one knows. Will Covid mutate into a more deadly form in order to continue its life cycle? No one knows. But it's what viruses do given enough people to infect,  we know that.
 
2022-01-02 2:56:00 PM  

Coco LaFemme: My boyfriend and I have no social lives right now. We used to enjoy going out for dinner occasionally, going to see a movie, even wandering around the mall...not anymore, at least not right now. I don't trust other people as far as I can coontpoont them. I'm almost to the point of carrying a can of Lysol with me to spray down people I see that aren't wearing masks.


This.
 
2022-01-02 3:34:34 PM  

BunchaRubes: What do the words "in the entire US the total" mean to you?


What do the words "per day" mean to you?
 
2022-01-02 4:33:45 PM  

Znuh: The delicious cherrypicking here is grotesque. 

"During the week of Dec. 22-28, an average of 378 children 17 and under were admitted per day to hospitals with the coronavirus, a 66% increase from the week before, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Thursday."


Here's the important part that no-one is talking about. An increase of this size means that there's a significant force behind the spread. If we don't identify and nullify that force it's going to continue to accelerate. F = ma isn't just for physics class - it describes anything that's moving, including the rate of sickness. In this case, it's social forces such as the need to go to school/work and emotional forces such as loneliness and rebelliousness against safety measures. Omicron's R0 is a serious reduction in the m, which is the resistance to change in movement.

/farking extroverts!
//***Goes back to online gaming session.***
 
2022-01-02 5:50:31 PM  
"People with social lives out trying to get laid driving the skyrocketing case counts."
 
2022-01-02 6:13:26 PM  

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From 2020 but still relevant now..

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2022-01-02 6:23:06 PM  
Aw man, just think-if only everyone wore masks to the grocery store this thing would be over by now.


So much spread occurs between/among families, friends, and coworkers, behind closed doors, in mostly mundane settings. Sometimes I think the obsession with masking in public steals attention from this fact.

 
2022-01-02 6:42:00 PM  
Dumbass parents create dumbass kids. They follow your example. The parents don't care anymore and the kids can't either.
 
2022-01-03 12:40:00 AM  

BunchaRubes: Media:  Won't someone think of all the children in hospitals due to Covid

Also media:  In the entire US the total pediatric cases averaged 334 over 7 days.  Not per hospital, that's 334 across the entire US.  That's not even 1 per 100 hospitals.


Covid grinds slowly yet finely.

For decades.
 
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