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2021-12-31 10:32:46 AM  
If that's how they treat the high rollers imagine what they'll do to you.
 
2021-12-31 10:38:30 AM  

edmo: If that's how they treat the high rollers imagine what they'll do to you.


Nothing, because we don't have $20k for them to steal.
 
2021-12-31 10:39:30 AM  
People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.
 
2021-12-31 10:41:04 AM  
So a wealthy gambler and a thief meet up on the street...

I need my stories to have a protagonist.
 
2021-12-31 10:42:28 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.


The hotel has a tool to unlock them, I was in a room once where the sage lock had been set by a prior guest. Maintenance came up, inserted a tool and unlocked it in about 3 seconds.
 
2021-12-31 10:42:48 AM  

TheCableGuy: Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.

The hotel has a tool to unlock them, I was in a room once where the sage lock had been set by a prior guest. Maintenance came up, inserted a tool and unlocked it in about 3 seconds.


Safe not sage.
 
2021-12-31 10:43:27 AM  

TheCableGuy: Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.

The hotel has a tool to unlock them, I was in a room once where the sage lock had been set by a prior guest. Maintenance came up, inserted a tool and unlocked it in about 3 seconds.


Is Sage your wife's name?
 
2021-12-31 10:44:34 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.


When we stayed in a fairly sleazy hotel in Bermuda in the 80s, something about the face on the guy who very strongly advised to use the wall safes persuaded us not to leave anything valuable anywhere in the hotel rooms, especially not in the wall safes.
 
2021-12-31 10:46:25 AM  
They were okay with having him at their hotel, until he was winning, then they suddenly declared him "checked out". Much like a YouTube channel I browse where a guy is recording video of his slot machine games and despite recording being "against the rules" and a casino (supposed to) being the most highly surveilled public access building, they don't bother to kick him out and punish with a temporary ban until he starts winning.
 
2021-12-31 10:48:09 AM  
(Reads TFA)

I'm going to guess that somebody who works there got cute and decided to go all Danny Ocean.  EVERY casino, no matter where, is wired for sight and sound - I think the casino management is stalling for time until they can either retrieve the money or get a couple of 'consultants' to retrieve it for them.
 
2021-12-31 10:48:22 AM  
Even if he was "checked out early" the hotel doesn't just keep the shiat left in the room. LOL. Someone's gotta lotta 'splaining to do.
 
2021-12-31 10:48:54 AM  
Ever since reading about that Tik Tok challenge where you jerk off into the hotel safe before checking out, I've been hesitant to use them.
 
2021-12-31 10:49:19 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: They were okay with having him at their hotel, until he was winning, then they suddenly declared him "checked out". Much like a YouTube channel I browse where a guy is recording video of his slot machine games and despite recording being "against the rules" and a casino (supposed to) being the most highly surveilled public access building, they don't bother to kick him out and punish with a temporary ban until he starts winning.


They were proactive. He did not even get the opportunity to begin to play.
 
2021-12-31 10:49:48 AM  
My guess is that they'll get to the bottom of this rather quickly. Stealing from guests is the casino's schtick and they don't tolerate competition.
 
2021-12-31 10:59:17 AM  
1. Someone hit the wrong button and checked him out, and the casino is CYA.

-or/and-

2. Someone stole the money from the safe and the hotel is CYA. Given the amount of trouble he's having with the deputy chief of security, I'm suspecting it might be that guy.
 
2021-12-31 11:04:08 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: DarkSoulNoHope: They were okay with having him at their hotel, until he was winning, then they suddenly declared him "checked out". Much like a YouTube channel I browse where a guy is recording video of his slot machine games and despite recording being "against the rules" and a casino (supposed to) being the most highly surveilled public access building, they don't bother to kick him out and punish with a temporary ban until he starts winning.

They were proactive. He did not even get the opportunity to begin to play.


He plays poker. If he's winning, he's winning other people's money, not playing against the house.
So it doesn't matter if he's winning or losing. The casino gets their rake either way.
 
2021-12-31 11:07:30 AM  
I don't trust those safes that's why I left my stash of cash and my .38 Super on top of the giant dresser in my room in Mandalay Bay.

Who thought the maid would look up there?  Hotel security was not amused.
 
2021-12-31 11:14:44 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Lockpicking Lawyer


Watching his videos will forever disabuse you about the security of locks in general, but it just floors me how egregiously bad some of these hotel and gun safes are.
 
2021-12-31 11:20:37 AM  

TheCableGuy: Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.

The hotel has a tool to unlock them, I was in a room once where the sage lock had been set by a prior guest. Maintenance came up, inserted a tool and unlocked it in about 3 seconds.


Found the tool.

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2021-12-31 11:21:46 AM  
One of my go-to tasks when I go to a hotel room is to check the Bible and the room safe for hidden cash. I'll then put a note in each that there's no cash in them - because I already checked.
 
2021-12-31 11:23:04 AM  
Yeah I am sure the Springfield mob (Gambino family) has their fingers deep into this place. Either it was sanctioned, the mob got its cut and nothing will happen, or whoever did it will end up in cement.

//in 2010 USA Today rated Springfield the 18th worst city in the USA
 
2021-12-31 11:24:05 AM  

Thosw: One of my go-to tasks when I go to a hotel room is to check the Bible and the room safe for hidden cash. I'll then put a note in each that there's no cash in them - because I already checked.


I'd put a note on the next page "He lied, here's a dollar" with a buck.
 
2021-12-31 11:29:57 AM  
It's a pretty neat scam. This guy Justin, who really has nothing to do with the hotel, calls of a bunch of highrollers and tells them the hotel is comping their rooms and going to take them out to a football game, and they can play cards later that evening. He buys a bunch of rooms and tickets for the football game, puts them on the bus, And while they're there, Bribes a couple of maids to let him into the room, and rifles the safes. When the gamblers get back from the football game they find out that they've been robbed and Justin is on a plane to Cancun. Wallah!
 
2021-12-31 11:46:06 AM  

Madman drummers bummers: edmo: If that's how they treat the high rollers imagine what they'll do to you.

Nothing, because we don't have $20k for them to steal.


They will take the buttons off your shirt
 
2021-12-31 11:49:34 AM  

TheCableGuy: Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.

The hotel has a tool to unlock them, I was in a room once where the sage lock had been set by a prior guest. Maintenance came up, inserted a tool and unlocked it in about 3 seconds.


But, the sage lock is magical!  It protects from demons and negative energy!
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2021-12-31 11:52:37 AM  
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2021-12-31 11:55:37 AM  

FarkaDark: Madman drummers bummers: edmo: If that's how they treat the high rollers imagine what they'll do to you.

Nothing, because we don't have $20k for them to steal.

They will take the buttons off your shirt


Joke's on them. I wear T-shirts.
 
2021-12-31 12:12:01 PM  
Springfield MA is a trashy city.

The NBA hall of fame and a casino aren't gonna fix years of bad governance and economic flight.
 
2021-12-31 12:13:22 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: They were okay with having him at their hotel, until he was winning, then they suddenly declared him "checked out". Much like a YouTube channel I browse where a guy is recording video of his slot machine games and despite recording being "against the rules" and a casino (supposed to) being the most highly surveilled public access building, they don't bother to kick him out and punish with a temporary ban until he starts winning.


Did you read the article?  He hadn't played a single game yet, he was at a Patriots game, to which the Casino took him.  So, they knew where he was, and how long he would be gone, when they robbed him.
 
2021-12-31 12:15:19 PM  

Snort: Springfield MA is a trashy city.

The NBA hall of fame and a casino aren't gonna fix years of bad governance and economic flight.


Also, the poker room has like 10 tables.
 
2021-12-31 12:17:45 PM  

AFKobel: Did you read the article?


No
 
2021-12-31 12:21:03 PM  

AFKobel: DarkSoulNoHope: They were okay with having him at their hotel, until he was winning, then they suddenly declared him "checked out". Much like a YouTube channel I browse where a guy is recording video of his slot machine games and despite recording being "against the rules" and a casino (supposed to) being the most highly surveilled public access building, they don't bother to kick him out and punish with a temporary ban until he starts winning.

Did you read the article?  He hadn't played a single game yet, he was at a Patriots game, to which the Casino took him.  So, they knew where he was, and how long he would be gone, when they robbed him.


I missed that part. I focused on the part where he was arguing with security as to wtf happened with his money.
 
2021-12-31 12:30:31 PM  

johnphantom: Yeah I am sure the Springfield mob (Gambino family) has their fingers deep into this place. Either it was sanctioned, the mob got its cut and nothing will happen, or whoever did it will end up in cement.


Springfield has been Genovese since it was Luciano.
Maybe they traded it recently for some timeshares?
 
2021-12-31 12:35:05 PM  
He was robbed by the casino, the whole thing is a set up from the start, including the invite to the football game. If I was that guy, I'd be asking where's the $80,000 i put in the safe?
 
2021-12-31 12:37:00 PM  

lurkey: johnphantom: Yeah I am sure the Springfield mob (Gambino family) has their fingers deep into this place. Either it was sanctioned, the mob got its cut and nothing will happen, or whoever did it will end up in cement.

Springfield has been Genovese since it was Luciano.
Maybe they traded it recently for some timeshares?


My mistake.
 
2021-12-31 12:51:21 PM  
It will be interesting to see where this goes. The gaming control boards tend to frown on incidents like this.
 
2021-12-31 12:57:17 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.


Neat, thanks for mentioning this!
 
2021-12-31 1:04:26 PM  

macadamnut: Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.

When we stayed in a fairly sleazy hotel in Bermuda in the 80s, something about the face on the guy who very strongly advised to use the wall safes persuaded us not to leave anything valuable anywhere in the hotel rooms, especially not in the wall safes.


I grew up in bermuda in the 70s- 80s and have to know which hotel this was
 
2021-12-31 1:11:21 PM  

Fart And Smunny: It will be interesting to see where this goes. The gaming control boards tend to frown on incidents like this.


Until they get their cut.
 
2021-12-31 1:20:18 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Fart And Smunny: It will be interesting to see where this goes. The gaming control boards tend to frown on incidents like this.

Until they get their cut.


If that were all it took, Trump might have actually been able to own a casino in Nevada.
 
2021-12-31 1:23:48 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: They were okay with having him at their hotel, until he was winning, then they suddenly declared him "checked out". Much like a YouTube channel I browse where a guy is recording video of his slot machine games and despite recording being "against the rules" and a casino (supposed to) being the most highly surveilled public access building, they don't bother to kick him out and punish with a temporary ban until he starts winning.


This was a poker player, so, no.
 
2021-12-31 1:27:33 PM  

Kelwen: macadamnut: Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.

When we stayed in a fairly sleazy hotel in Bermuda in the 80s, something about the face on the guy who very strongly advised to use the wall safes persuaded us not to leave anything valuable anywhere in the hotel rooms, especially not in the wall safes.

I grew up in bermuda in the 70s- 80s and have to know which hotel this was


Beats me, I was 15 and we were in Bermuda for all of about 27 hours.

It was amazing though, he practically came out and said, "we will steal anything not locked in a safe," but somehow it was also clear that the staff couldn't wait for us to stick some cash in those wall safes.

We also saw a guy fall off the second floor balcony of a bar (Rum Runners) onto the street below. Next morning our cab driver told us the guy had lived, but "if he had landed on his posterior, his spine would have gone right up through his head."
 
2021-12-31 1:31:48 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.


LOL I was just gonna bring this guy up as well as i was wondering if the safe in the room was one of the types he has shown the vulnerabilities of.

That said i expect some employee looted the cash whilst packing up the room, that said the hotel is likely still liable if they packed up his room with out proper reason as the guy claims.
 
2021-12-31 1:32:49 PM  

Fart And Smunny: The gaming control boards tend to frown on incidents like this.


Now that this is in the news, I suspect that the number of high-rollers will also frown on it by declining invitations.
 
2021-12-31 1:39:09 PM  

macadamnut: Kelwen: macadamnut: Prank Call of Cthulhu: People who use the hotel safe apparently don't watch the Lockpicking Lawyer YouTube channel, or have never googled for and tested the default safe code. LOL.

When we stayed in a fairly sleazy hotel in Bermuda in the 80s, something about the face on the guy who very strongly advised to use the wall safes persuaded us not to leave anything valuable anywhere in the hotel rooms, especially not in the wall safes.

I grew up in bermuda in the 70s- 80s and have to know which hotel this was

Beats me, I was 15 and we were in Bermuda for all of about 27 hours.

It was amazing though, he practically came out and said, "we will steal anything not locked in a safe," but somehow it was also clear that the staff couldn't wait for us to stick some cash in those wall safes.

We also saw a guy fall off the second floor balcony of a bar (Rum Runners) onto the street below. Next morning our cab driver told us the guy had lived, but "if he had landed on his posterior, his spine would have gone right up through his head."


he would have made that list of the best things shoved up your ass for 2021... "my mind"
 
2021-12-31 1:45:56 PM  

johnphantom: lurkey: johnphantom: Yeah I am sure the Springfield mob (Gambino family) has their fingers deep into this place. Either it was sanctioned, the mob got its cut and nothing will happen, or whoever did it will end up in cement.

Springfield has been Genovese since it was Luciano.
Maybe they traded it recently for some timeshares?

My mistake.


To be fair, they've all (allegedly) been in the Hoover Family since the '60's.
 
2021-12-31 1:57:01 PM  
Aren't they by law required to at least try to reconnect left property to the owner?
 
2021-12-31 2:26:19 PM  
So newish casino brings high roller in to try and drum up business and ends up f-ing up his room and losing his $ before he has ever played a card.

I'm sure this won't have any negative effect on drawing high rollers in the future. Springfield is a destination all by itself
 
2021-12-31 2:55:43 PM  

abhorrent1: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: DarkSoulNoHope: They were okay with having him at their hotel, until he was winning, then they suddenly declared him "checked out". Much like a YouTube channel I browse where a guy is recording video of his slot machine games and despite recording being "against the rules" and a casino (supposed to) being the most highly surveilled public access building, they don't bother to kick him out and punish with a temporary ban until he starts winning.

They were proactive. He did not even get the opportunity to begin to play.

He plays poker. If he's winning, he's winning other people's money, not playing against the house.
So it doesn't matter if he's winning or losing. The casino gets their rake either way.


Why poker clubs are a popular business to run.  No matter what, they get their piece, and they don't even have to play.  Minting money much?
 
2021-12-31 3:02:21 PM  
Meanwhile you have to get a signed and notarized request in triplicate to have the cum-crusty duvet replaced.
 
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