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2021-12-25 4:02:06 AM  
But did he step over the back of a chair to do so?
 
2021-12-25 4:17:57 AM  

scalpod: But did he step over the back of a chair to do so?


To boldly teabag where no chair has been teabagged before!
 
2021-12-25 4:31:30 AM  
How does one sit?

One or both?
 
2021-12-25 6:24:58 AM  
I'm only on Season 3 of Discovery but I love it!
It's not really "Star Trek" to me, more like a really enjoyable Sci-Fi show that mentions Star Trek words a lot.
But boy, Michael sure does cry a lot!
 
2021-12-25 7:39:13 AM  

buntz: I'm only on Season 3 of Discovery but I love it!
It's not really "Star Trek" to me, more like a really enjoyable Sci-Fi show that mentions Star Trek words a lot.
But boy, Michael sure does cry a lot!


And vehemently whispers all of her lines.
 
2021-12-25 8:02:24 AM  
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2021-12-25 8:03:48 AM  
I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.
 
2021-12-25 8:45:35 AM  

Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.


I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.
 
2021-12-25 8:51:36 AM  

KingOfTown: [Fark user image 425x323]
/must be posted in any Frakes thread


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2021-12-25 9:29:39 AM  
jonathan frakes telling you you're wrong for 47 seconds
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2021-12-25 9:31:40 AM  

browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.


He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.
 
2021-12-25 9:46:03 AM  

NeoCortex42: browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.

He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.


And it's always fascinating to hear competent and enthusiastic artists talk about their work - though being 'genuinely nice' makes it enjoyable as well as fascinating.  I can be enthralled listening to James Cameron, but he's an irritating self-important ass and a bully.  He's interesting but irritating.
 
2021-12-25 9:55:16 AM  

NeoCortex42: browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.

He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.


I tell the story on Fark all the time, but I'll tell it again, friend of mine, Dave, went to a con to get Brent Spiners autograph. He asked him to write "to the human I aspire to be" (or something like that)

Spiner wouldn't sign it, giving him the "I'm an actor, not the character" argument, blah blah blah.

Frakes at the next table leans over at the commotion and asks Spiner what's going on.  Spiner explains what Dave asks him to write and Frakes BELLY LAUGHS!
Says it's hysterical and he would totally sign something like that!

Spiner was just uppity, found no humor in it, and gave Dave his money back, not signing anything.
 
2021-12-25 9:58:10 AM  

buntz: NeoCortex42: browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.

He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.

I tell the story on Fark all the time, but I'll tell it again, friend of mine, Dave, went to a con to get Brent Spiners autograph. He asked him to write "to the human I aspire to be" (or something like that)

Spiner wouldn't sign it, giving him the "I'm an actor, not the character" argument, blah blah blah.

Frakes at the next table leans over at the commotion and asks Spiner what's going on.  Spiner explains what Dave asks him to write and Frakes BELLY LAUGHS!
Says it's hysterical and he would totally sign something like that!

Spiner was just uppity, found no humor in it, and gave Dave his money back, not signing anything.


I have no problem with people who take their work seriously, but when you take YOURSELF too seriously... time to consider an elective rectal stick-ectomy.  If you're too uptight to handle some light fan humor, you probably should just not go to the conventions.
 
2021-12-25 10:07:34 AM  

Unsung_Hero: I have no problem with people who take their work seriously, but when you take YOURSELF too seriously... time to consider an elective rectal stick-ectomy.  If you're too uptight to handle some light fan humor, you probably should just not go to the conventions.


To be fair, I wasn't there.  But Dave loves telling the story.
He gets all autographs like that, with something wacky attributed to their characters (I think he got Linda Blair to write something about him 'possessing' her)

But Spiner was all "I'm Brent Spiner, I AM human, so why would I say Dave is human I aspire to be?  (Even though humans CAN aspire to be better humans).

But whatever, the point of the story is Frakes found it hysterical, laughed at Spiner and generally pretty great!

I told Dave he should have had Frakes sign the Spiner picture with the same autograph!  Now THAT would have been funny!!
 
2021-12-25 10:14:15 AM  

buntz: But Dave loves telling the story.


I used to spend some time around the cons (decades ago, before the commercial super-cons became dominant).  I could probably go on for pages and pages about the guests I met... but I can tell you that your friend's story is very very believable (in the general sense, I don't know and have never even met Spiner).

I was very lucky in that every single one of them that I met was grounded, pleasant, and had a decent sense of humor.  There were a few I was in proximity to who weren't, but I never directly interacted with them.  Again, luck, I suppose.
 
2021-12-25 10:21:40 AM  

Unsung_Hero: I was very lucky in that every single one of them that I met was grounded, pleasant, and had a decent sense of humor.  There were a few I was in proximity to who weren't, but I never directly interacted with them.  Again, luck, I suppose.


I don't go to a lot of cons because they're just too expensive. But the ones I did go to I had a run-in with marina Sirtis. Maybe it's just a Star Trek thing?

I met her in the 80s right when Star Trek was new, I was just a kid, and I got her to autograph the cheapest picture I could find, the black-and-white Troi photo with her hair in a bun.
Maybe 10 years ago she came to Pittsburgh so I thought it would be neat to go get her autograph on the same picture, 30 years later.

She made a couple of sarcastic comments about me being too cheap to spring for a new photo and when I explained how I thought it was neat that I met her 30 years ago she got real pissy that I reminded her how old she was and was really miserable with me.

She still signed the picture but was not friendly with me, so when I left I told her "see you in 30 years!"
 
2021-12-25 10:29:44 AM  

buntz: Unsung_Hero: I was very lucky in that every single one of them that I met was grounded, pleasant, and had a decent sense of humor.  There were a few I was in proximity to who weren't, but I never directly interacted with them.  Again, luck, I suppose.

I don't go to a lot of cons because they're just too expensive. But the ones I did go to I had a run-in with marina Sirtis. Maybe it's just a Star Trek thing?

I met her in the 80s right when Star Trek was new, I was just a kid, and I got her to autograph the cheapest picture I could find, the black-and-white Troi photo with her hair in a bun.
Maybe 10 years ago she came to Pittsburgh so I thought it would be neat to go get her autograph on the same picture, 30 years later.

She made a couple of sarcastic comments about me being too cheap to spring for a new photo and when I explained how I thought it was neat that I met her 30 years ago she got real pissy that I reminded her how old she was and was really miserable with me.

She still signed the picture but was not friendly with me, so when I left I told her "see you in 30 years!"


The TNG crew have a lot of stories like that floating around.  This is total gossip and I have no idea if I even have the right names at this point, but there's one about Dorn being a total biatch and thinking his shiat didn't stink until one of the TOS actors pulled him aside and gave him some 'advice'... which, to Dorn's credit, changed his perspective and behavior.

Mostly the TNG 1st-tier was too expensive for my local con's budget, so I never saw any of them.  I saw de Lancie once and he seemed a bit stand-offish, but that's about all I can say about him.  Not that it's a good excuse when they're getting paid, but you also have to keep in mind that cons are usually a weekend gig and the days are long and fast and they're probably exhausted giving the same little speech to the 10,000th fan while trying to keep it fresh.

I did have a (very brief) chat with Picardo about that once, and that man was a machine.  Ready to drop dead from exhaustion, but still pushing through to give a good experience to the con attendees. You have to respect that kind of work ethic.
 
2021-12-25 10:46:37 AM  
Unsung_Hero:

I've only been to a couple.  They're pricing themselves out of business (at least MY business).
$30 or $40 to get in the door, then $50 to $100 for a picture, $50 to $100 for an autograph?!?

Shatner was just in Pittsburgh last year.
$200 for a pic and autograph??

They have 20+ celebs.  I'd love to meet a bunch of them.  But I can't pay $50 after $50 after $50 (and $50 is the low end of the spectrum anymore!)

I get they're trying to make money, but I simply can't afford that kind of money for a snapshot!

Flick, from A Christmas Story was at one a few years ago.  He wanted something like $50-$60 and had ZERO people in line.  I didn't want to pay it but went up to him and said "Hey, when I was a kid I really loved Kidco."

He seemed to really flattered and appreciated I took the time to talk to him.
But I bet he would have appreciated me paying him even more.
 
2021-12-25 10:52:56 AM  

buntz: I've only been to a couple. They're pricing themselves out of business (at least MY business).
$30 or $40 to get in the door, then $50 to $100 for a picture, $50 to $100 for an autograph?!?


It started back in the fan cons.  Some (many, maybe most) of the guests would sign anything, and sell photos if you didn't have anything to sign.

Then people started collecting those signed items and selling them for quite a bit of money.  Asshole dealers would slip out of the dealers' room when things were slow, line up and get a bunch of their own merch signed "for their family who were busy working at the booth".  There was no family, there was maybe an assistant and more likely a "back in 5" sign.  Then the signed items would appear on the table when they got back.

The actors got sick of it, and some tried only signing with personalized messages, but ultimately the greedy assholes (the fans willing to pay for signatures not collected in person) and the vendors ruined it for everyone else.  So now they charge directly rather than have what are effectively 'autograph scalpers' take the money.
 
2021-12-25 2:42:46 PM  

Unsung_Hero: buntz: I've only been to a couple. They're pricing themselves out of business (at least MY business).
$30 or $40 to get in the door, then $50 to $100 for a picture, $50 to $100 for an autograph?!?

It started back in the fan cons.  Some (many, maybe most) of the guests would sign anything, and sell photos if you didn't have anything to sign.

Then people started collecting those signed items and selling them for quite a bit of money.  Asshole dealers would slip out of the dealers' room when things were slow, line up and get a bunch of their own merch signed "for their family who were busy working at the booth".  There was no family, there was maybe an assistant and more likely a "back in 5" sign.  Then the signed items would appear on the table when they got back.

The actors got sick of it, and some tried only signing with personalized messages, but ultimately the greedy assholes (the fans willing to pay for signatures not collected in person) and the vendors ruined it for everyone else.  So now they charge directly rather than have what are effectively 'autograph scalpers' take the money.


Ebay?  That's a common name today.

/probably farked up the line
 
2021-12-25 3:11:32 PM  

oyster_popsicles: KingOfTown: [Fark user image 425x323]
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Dammit, now I want Patrick Stewart to play Abe Lincoln in something.
 
2021-12-25 3:12:40 PM  

Unsung_Hero: Mostly the TNG 1st-tier was too expensive for my local con's budget, so I never saw any of them. I saw de Lancie once and he seemed a bit stand-offish, but that's about all I can say about him. Not that it's a good excuse when they're getting paid, but you also have to keep in mind that cons are usually a weekend gig and the days are long and fast and they're probably exhausted giving the same little speech to the 10,000th fan while trying to keep it fresh.

I did have a (very brief) chat with Picardo about that once, and that man was a machine. Ready to drop dead from exhaustion, but still pushing through to give a good experience to the con attendees. You have to respect that kind of work ethic.


I encountered both de Lancie and Picardo at the same con, which I was working as a kind of minister without portfolio, and can confirm. It's a gig for de Lancie, who is nothing like Q but an interesting guy nonetheless. He does his bit for the show (very professionally) but his off time is *off*. Picardo was running around doing all kinds of stuff. Also very professional, not partying with the fans or anything, but more accessible. The showrunner had me buy him a drink the night before to help make up for some minor hotel snafu and he was incredibly gracious. Gave me a free selfie as well.
 
2021-12-25 3:45:14 PM  

buntz: Unsung_Hero:

I've only been to a couple.  They're pricing themselves out of business (at least MY business).
$30 or $40 to get in the door, then $50 to $100 for a picture, $50 to $100 for an autograph?!?

Shatner was just in Pittsburgh last year.
$200 for a pic and autograph??

They have 20+ celebs.  I'd love to meet a bunch of them.  But I can't pay $50 after $50 after $50 (and $50 is the low end of the spectrum anymore!)

I get they're trying to make money, but I simply can't afford that kind of money for a snapshot!

Flick, from A Christmas Story was at one a few years ago.  He wanted something like $50-$60 and had ZERO people in line.  I didn't want to pay it but went up to him and said "Hey, when I was a kid I really loved Kidco."

He seemed to really flattered and appreciated I took the time to talk to him.
But I bet he would have appreciated me paying him even more.


Got a Cameo from Frakes for my wife's birthday in 2020. Best thing ever - he even did The Riker Smile for her.

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/he also sang Happy Birthday to her
 
2021-12-25 5:20:58 PM  

KingOfTown: buntz: Unsung_Hero:

I've only been to a couple.  They're pricing themselves out of business (at least MY business).
$30 or $40 to get in the door, then $50 to $100 for a picture, $50 to $100 for an autograph?!?

Shatner was just in Pittsburgh last year.
$200 for a pic and autograph??

They have 20+ celebs.  I'd love to meet a bunch of them.  But I can't pay $50 after $50 after $50 (and $50 is the low end of the spectrum anymore!)

I get they're trying to make money, but I simply can't afford that kind of money for a snapshot!

Flick, from A Christmas Story was at one a few years ago.  He wanted something like $50-$60 and had ZERO people in line.  I didn't want to pay it but went up to him and said "Hey, when I was a kid I really loved Kidco."

He seemed to really flattered and appreciated I took the time to talk to him.
But I bet he would have appreciated me paying him even more.

Got a Cameo from Frakes for my wife's birthday in 2020. Best thing ever - he even did The Riker Smile for her.

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/he also sang Happy Birthday to her


Frakes sounds like the sort of guy you could hang around with for a bit, along with Patrick Stewart, because both of them know where their real fame comes from.
 
2021-12-25 5:56:10 PM  

ClavellBCMI: KingOfTown: buntz: Unsung_Hero:

I've only been to a couple.  They're pricing themselves out of business (at least MY business).
$30 or $40 to get in the door, then $50 to $100 for a picture, $50 to $100 for an autograph?!?

Shatner was just in Pittsburgh last year.
$200 for a pic and autograph??

They have 20+ celebs.  I'd love to meet a bunch of them.  But I can't pay $50 after $50 after $50 (and $50 is the low end of the spectrum anymore!)

I get they're trying to make money, but I simply can't afford that kind of money for a snapshot!

Flick, from A Christmas Story was at one a few years ago.  He wanted something like $50-$60 and had ZERO people in line.  I didn't want to pay it but went up to him and said "Hey, when I was a kid I really loved Kidco."

He seemed to really flattered and appreciated I took the time to talk to him.
But I bet he would have appreciated me paying him even more.

Got a Cameo from Frakes for my wife's birthday in 2020. Best thing ever - he even did The Riker Smile for her.

[Fark user image 220x220] [View Full Size image _x_]
/he also sang Happy Birthday to her

Frakes sounds like the sort of guy you could hang around with for a bit, along with Patrick Stewart, because both of them know where their real fame comes from.


Frakes is just a cool, down to earth guy and has had high expectation put on him. He is a good actor, but even he admits he was maybe 7th in line for top actor on TNG, meaning last of the main cast. So he has the humility that comes with that knowledge, I do my job but no one expects me to be the best.

Stewart just has learned to enjoy life and safety net that comes with fame.
 
2021-12-25 6:10:32 PM  
Not TNG related, but I've seen some videos of various DS9 cast members and Nana Visitor, in particular, seems like a really nice and uplifting person. Can't vouch for the rest of the cast.
 
2021-12-25 6:43:37 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Frakes sounds like the sort of guy you could hang around with for a bit, along with Patrick Stewart, because both of them know where their real fame comes from.


Things might have changed but PS had a huge stick up his ass for a long time.
 
2021-12-25 8:08:15 PM  

mjbok: ClavellBCMI: Frakes sounds like the sort of guy you could hang around with for a bit, along with Patrick Stewart, because both of them know where their real fame comes from.

Things might have changed but PS had a huge stick up his ass for a long time.


He's admitted as much. It wasn't until a season or two into TNG that he learned to lighten the fark up.
 
2021-12-25 8:23:12 PM  

NeoCortex42: mjbok: ClavellBCMI: Frakes sounds like the sort of guy you could hang around with for a bit, along with Patrick Stewart, because both of them know where their real fame comes from.

Things might have changed but PS had a huge stick up his ass for a long time.

He's admitted as much. It wasn't until a season or two into TNG that he learned to lighten the fark up.


IIRC correctly the attitude came from his time in British theater (esp. Shakespearean), where apparently you Do. Not. fark. Around.
 
2021-12-25 8:25:19 PM  

spiralscratch: NeoCortex42: mjbok: ClavellBCMI: Frakes sounds like the sort of guy you could hang around with for a bit, along with Patrick Stewart, because both of them know where their real fame comes from.

Things might have changed but PS had a huge stick up his ass for a long time.

He's admitted as much. It wasn't until a season or two into TNG that he learned to lighten the fark up.

IIRC correctly the attitude came from his time in British theater (esp. Shakespearean), where apparently you Do. Not. fark. Around.


Which makes perfect sense since it's not like you get multiple takes when you're on stage.
 
2021-12-25 8:51:03 PM  

NeoCortex42: browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.

He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.


I took my Flame Challenge to a con to get it signed by all the TNG actors who where there, because Trek is the reason I'm a scientist.  I started with Wheaton, because I was 11 when I started watching and identified with Wesley (yeah, yeah, I was also the obnoxious kid that nobody liked).  I gave Wil the entier spiel, and Frakes was at the next table doing his own signing.  Afterwards I went straight to Frake's line, and when I got to the table I started the story again and he said "yeah, Yeah, I know", which could have sounded like a brush-off, BUT...

I later went to a Q&A he was doing with Marina (whose autograph I'd gotten in the interim) and went up to ask a question.  Before I got three words in, Marina said "Hey, you're Steve with the trophy", and they proceeded to tell each other the entire story for the benefit of the audience.  Keep in mind that Frakes has heard the story once with half an ear while interacting with someone else, and still got every detail right and gave every indication of being impressed that his show had inspired me to become a scientist.  (Not our characters, though, just Wheaton's).

Frakes is also delightfully nuts.  He started the Q&A just wandering randomly around the audience, being a clown.  He does not take himself seriously in the slightest.
 
2021-12-25 9:51:21 PM  
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2021-12-25 10:09:53 PM  

spiralscratch: NeoCortex42: mjbok: ClavellBCMI: Frakes sounds like the sort of guy you could hang around with for a bit, along with Patrick Stewart, because both of them know where their real fame comes from.

Things might have changed but PS had a huge stick up his ass for a long time.

He's admitted as much. It wasn't until a season or two into TNG that he learned to lighten the fark up.

IIRC correctly the attitude came from his time in British theater (esp. Shakespearean), where apparently you Do. Not. fark. Around.


After he'd been around awhile and seen a few things, he loosened up.

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2021-12-25 10:25:05 PM  

thomasvista: Not TNG related, but I've seen some videos of various DS9 cast members and Nana Visitor, in particular, seems like a really nice and uplifting person. Can't vouch for the rest of the cast.


She did a Cameo for my wife's birthday that was so sweet she cried. I get the same impression.
 
2021-12-25 10:40:48 PM  

Fourstring: thomasvista: Not TNG related, but I've seen some videos of various DS9 cast members and Nana Visitor, in particular, seems like a really nice and uplifting person. Can't vouch for the rest of the cast.

She did a Cameo for my wife's birthday that was so sweet she cried. I get the same impression.


Meanwhile, I hear Roxann Dawson wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire!
 
2021-12-26 12:45:15 AM  

buntz: NeoCortex42: browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.

He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.

I tell the story on Fark all the time, but I'll tell it again, friend of mine, Dave, went to a con to get Brent Spiners autograph. He asked him to write "to the human I aspire to be" (or something like that)

Spiner wouldn't sign it, giving him the "I'm an actor, not the character" argument, blah blah blah.

Frakes at the next table leans over at the commotion and asks Spiner what's going on.  Spiner explains what Dave asks him to write and Frakes BELLY LAUGHS!
Says it's hysterical and he would totally sign something like that!

Spiner was just uppity, found no humor in it, and gave Dave his money back, not signing anything.


Not doubting the story, but he did get over himself at some point.
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Gonna be a huge and stupid pic because I'm on my phone and it happens to be right in front of me, but my wife got this for her dad a few years ago. She has one for herself from Frakes, who very graciously put up with he when she kept hanging out in his line to keep chatting with him. His says something equally cheesy like 'boldly go forward' or something like that
 
2021-12-26 3:46:24 AM  

buntz: NeoCortex42: browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.

He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.

I tell the story on Fark all the time, but I'll tell it again, friend of mine, Dave, went to a con to get Brent Spiners autograph. He asked him to write "to the human I aspire to be" (or something like that)

Spiner wouldn't sign it, giving him the "I'm an actor, not the character" argument, blah blah blah.

Frakes at the next table leans over at the commotion and asks Spiner what's going on.  Spiner explains what Dave asks him to write and Frakes BELLY LAUGHS!
Says it's hysterical and he would totally sign something like that!

Spiner was just uppity, found no humor in it, and gave Dave his money back, not signing anything.


I would've asked Spiner to sign it "Take me to the gas chamber, I don't care"
 
2021-12-26 9:37:55 AM  

Unsung_Hero: buntz: Unsung_Hero: I was very lucky in that every single one of them that I met was grounded, pleasant, and had a decent sense of humor.  There were a few I was in proximity to who weren't, but I never directly interacted with them.  Again, luck, I suppose.

I don't go to a lot of cons because they're just too expensive. But the ones I did go to I had a run-in with marina Sirtis. Maybe it's just a Star Trek thing?

I met her in the 80s right when Star Trek was new, I was just a kid, and I got her to autograph the cheapest picture I could find, the black-and-white Troi photo with her hair in a bun.
Maybe 10 years ago she came to Pittsburgh so I thought it would be neat to go get her autograph on the same picture, 30 years later.

She made a couple of sarcastic comments about me being too cheap to spring for a new photo and when I explained how I thought it was neat that I met her 30 years ago she got real pissy that I reminded her how old she was and was really miserable with me.

She still signed the picture but was not friendly with me, so when I left I told her "see you in 30 years!"

The TNG crew have a lot of stories like that floating around.  This is total gossip and I have no idea if I even have the right names at this point, but there's one about Dorn being a total biatch and thinking his shiat didn't stink until one of the TOS actors pulled him aside and gave him some 'advice'... which, to Dorn's credit, changed his perspective and behavior.

Mostly the TNG 1st-tier was too expensive for my local con's budget, so I never saw any of them.  I saw de Lancie once and he seemed a bit stand-offish, but that's about all I can say about him.  Not that it's a good excuse when they're getting paid, but you also have to keep in mind that cons are usually a weekend gig and the days are long and fast and they're probably exhausted giving the same little speech to the 10,000th fan while trying to keep it fresh.

I did have a (very brief) chat with Picardo about that once, and that man was a machine.  Ready to drop dead from exhaustion, but still pushing through to give a good experience to the con attendees. You have to respect that kind of work ethic.


To be fair, he's a doctor. Not a doorstop.
 
2021-12-26 11:22:35 AM  

whither_apophis: buntz: NeoCortex42: browneye: Unsung_Hero: I thought Frakes made a pretty decent Riker, but I far more enjoy reading or hearing him talk about directing.

I never liked Riker. But I do like Frakes. He is a very good director.

He also seems by all accounts to be a genuinely nice guy.

I tell the story on Fark all the time, but I'll tell it again, friend of mine, Dave, went to a con to get Brent Spiners autograph. He asked him to write "to the human I aspire to be" (or something like that)

Spiner wouldn't sign it, giving him the "I'm an actor, not the character" argument, blah blah blah.

Frakes at the next table leans over at the commotion and asks Spiner what's going on.  Spiner explains what Dave asks him to write and Frakes BELLY LAUGHS!
Says it's hysterical and he would totally sign something like that!

Spiner was just uppity, found no humor in it, and gave Dave his money back, not signing anything.

I would've asked Spiner to sign it "Take me to the gas chamber, I don't care"


People have bad days. Fark's beloved Wil Wheaton was an absolute ass to me in 1993. I was very much a fanboy and it stung me because all I wanted to to say that I appreciated the work, but no time for the poor con security guard keeping you safe. Most of the actors are very nice to their security details, Wil treated us like we didn't exist and was just the most wet blanket individual you could imagine.

That being said, he was professional on stage but once he got off he wasn't going out from underneath a dark cloud the whole con and he was working to make everyone around him miserable too.

Having learned more about him over the years I know he was going through all kinds of stuff and of course that was what was going on. Later, he was quite the decent person and treated everyone around with proper respect. Seemed like a totally different person from the arrogant child who made such a poor impression on me.
 
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