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(The Hill)   Good: Dems about to play hardball with Manchin after his BBB fiasco. Not so good: He's probably going to play hardball with them also   (thehill.com) divider line
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2021-12-21 9:14:24 AM  
DNRTFA. I don't care about Manchin's poses any more.
 
2021-12-21 9:16:33 AM  
Manchin is probably going to pull a Lieberman and run as an independent.
 
2021-12-21 9:17:47 AM  

Ambivalence: Manchin is probably going to pull a Lieberman and run as an independent.


LOL no... West Virginia is a lot different than Connecticut.

No one can primary him... Literally no one.
 
2021-12-21 9:19:21 AM  
If the Dems are going to play hardball with him, let's hope they remember to use the bat with a nail in it.
 
2021-12-21 9:20:51 AM  
Seriously f*ck that guy.
 
2021-12-21 9:21:57 AM  
Who cares.  The GOP is gonna GOP, and Manchin is one of them.
 
2021-12-21 9:22:18 AM  
Dems playing hardball?

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2021-12-21 9:22:48 AM  
Don't worry, I'm sure that the Manchin stans (Stanchins?) will be white knighting him any time soon on this thread about how we can't hurt his fee fees and how he'll run to the Republican party.

Anything else I'm missing?
 
2021-12-21 9:22:48 AM  
Uh oh, guess it's just about that time:
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2021-12-21 9:23:26 AM  
Sometime in the future when some historian writes a book detailing the fall of the United States into fascism and theocracy Manchin should have his own chapter.
 
2021-12-21 9:24:16 AM  
He's going to make some hedge funds very wealthy by collapsing BBB.
 
2021-12-21 9:25:24 AM  
As long as the checks clear, Joe Mansion is going to keep being Joe Mansion. He's reached the stage of his career where, "Fark it," is the clear winner of his many choices. Everything else requires too much work.
 
2021-12-21 9:25:38 AM  

NOLAhd: Sometime in the future when some historian writes a book detailing the fall of the United States into fascism and theocracy Manchin should have his own chapter.


That's pretty bold of you. Assuming people in the future know how to read and sh*t.
 
2021-12-21 9:25:59 AM  
Welp, guess that's it then.

D's won't settle for what they have the votes to pass.

And they can't pass what they don't have the votes for.

So it's Congressional gridlock time.
 
2021-12-21 9:27:39 AM  
He's never signing it in any form. I don't understand what is so difficult about this.
 
2021-12-21 9:28:01 AM  
Well, sounds like I'll just have to play harderball.  That should be fine until the other guy plays hardestball.  Those are some hard balls.
 
2021-12-21 9:28:17 AM  

JAGChem82: Don't worry, I'm sure that the Manchin stans (Stanchins?) will be white knighting him any time soon on this thread about how we can't hurt his fee fees and how he'll run to the Republican party.

Anything else I'm missing?



No that's the main lie you guys keep propping up as a strawman.  You're good.
 
2021-12-21 9:28:25 AM  
They're going to eat lunch with him but make him sit all alone for dessert. That's about the extent of Democrats' "hardball" tactics.
 
2021-12-21 9:28:32 AM  
Fark Brigade:  DEMS ARE JUST LIKE THE GOP!! SCREW THAT!!

Also Fark Brigade:  DEMS NEED TO START ACTING JUST LIKE THE GOP!!!
 
2021-12-21 9:28:54 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Uh oh, guess it's just about that time:
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Do you feel at least a little bit silly every time the people you attack are proven correct?
 
2021-12-21 9:29:08 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: They're going to eat lunch with him but make him sit all alone for dessert. That's about the extent of Democrats' "hardball" tactics.


And your tactics are...chicken tendies in mom's basement while smashing your keyboard with sausage fingers until money flies out?
 
2021-12-21 9:29:24 AM  
Go ahead.....tow his stupid farking boat out into international waters and remove the prop.

I dare you.
 
2021-12-21 9:29:59 AM  

bloobeary: If the Dems are going to play hardball with him, let's hope they remember to use the bat with a nail in it.


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2021-12-21 9:30:02 AM  
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2021-12-21 9:30:53 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Do you feel at least a little bit silly every time the people you attack are proven correct?


That Manchin is not at fault that he is being put up to this by Biden?

That's correct?
 
2021-12-21 9:31:34 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: They're going to eat lunch with him but make him sit all alone for dessert. That's about the extent of Democrats' "hardball" tactics.


Your really upset that the bill YOU OPPOSE - is not passing.
 
2021-12-21 9:32:01 AM  

JAGChem82: Don't worry, I'm sure that the Manchin stans (Stanchins?) will be white knighting him any time soon on this thread about how we can't hurt his fee fees and how he'll run to the Republican party.

Anything else I'm missing?


Never seen anyone on this site actually "stan" for Manchin
 
2021-12-21 9:32:04 AM  

Corvus: HotWingConspiracy: Do you feel at least a little bit silly every time the people you attack are proven correct?

That Manchin is not at fault that he is being put up to this by Biden?

That's correct?


I'm going to need you to make sense at least once. Please. What the fark is this? Do you think anyone knows what the fark you're talking about?
 
2021-12-21 9:33:08 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Corvus: HotWingConspiracy: Do you feel at least a little bit silly every time the people you attack are proven correct?

That Manchin is not at fault that he is being put up to this by Biden?

That's correct?

I'm going to need you to make sense at least once. Please. What the fark is this? Do you think anyone knows what the fark you're talking about?


So the people who say "Manchin actually wants to sign the bill but Biden is forcing him not to because all Democrats want it to fail" are correct?

That's what you believe?'
 
2021-12-21 9:33:13 AM  
This bill is a joke.  They're giving all children pre-K, but nobody is giving me thousands of dollars to pay for the loans that I took out as an adult?
 
2021-12-21 9:33:20 AM  

SomeAmerican: D's won't settle for what they have the votes to pass.


And what, pray tell, do they have the votes to pass?
 
2021-12-21 9:33:21 AM  

JAGChem82: Don't worry, I'm sure that the Manchin stans (Stanchins?) will be white knighting him any time soon on this thread about how we can't hurt his fee fees and how he'll run to the Republican party.

Anything else I'm missing?


It's hardly White Knighting to say someone has an extortionists hold on you.
 
2021-12-21 9:33:22 AM  
Remember when the United Mine Workers were feared, when aSenator from a Coal State would tremble if he crossed UMW. They need to put the fear of Organized Labor into Manchin, gotdamnit.
 
2021-12-21 9:33:43 AM  
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2021-12-21 9:34:15 AM  

Corvus: HotWingConspiracy: Corvus: HotWingConspiracy: Do you feel at least a little bit silly every time the people you attack are proven correct?

That Manchin is not at fault that he is being put up to this by Biden?

That's correct?

I'm going to need you to make sense at least once. Please. What the fark is this? Do you think anyone knows what the fark you're talking about?

So the people who say "Manchin actually wants to sign the bill but Biden is forcing him not to because all Democrats want it to fail" are correct?

That's what you believe?'


I'm literally begging you to string together a coherent thought before posting.
 
2021-12-21 9:34:22 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Remember when the United Mine Workers were feared, when aSenator from a Coal State would tremble if he crossed UMW. They need to put the fear of Organized Labor into Manchin, gotdamnit.


I think you've stumbled across the reason Dems and Republicans were perfectly ok with neutering unions for the past 40 years.
 
2021-12-21 9:34:25 AM  

lordjupiter: JAGChem82: Don't worry, I'm sure that the Manchin stans (Stanchins?) will be white knighting him any time soon on this thread about how we can't hurt his fee fees and how he'll run to the Republican party.

Anything else I'm missing?


No that's the main lie you guys keep propping up as a strawman.  You're good.


You guys? Son, don't ever consider me a "Fark Progressive" or whatever perjorative you think when seeing my posts.
 
2021-12-21 9:34:28 AM  

Rapmaster2000: This bill is a joke.  They're giving all children pre-K, but nobody is giving me thousands of dollars to pay for the loans that I took out as an adult?


Conservative humor with another home run!
 
2021-12-21 9:35:02 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Remember when the United Mine Workers were feared, when aSenator from a Coal State would tremble if he crossed UMW. They need to put the fear of Organized Labor into Manchin, gotdamnit.


What are there, like 20 miners left in WV at this point? Everything is automated.  The money in mining now is white collar.
 
2021-12-21 9:35:51 AM  
What would you do for millions from provate interest groups?  Could you sit there and do nothing for millions?
 
2021-12-21 9:36:31 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Corvus: HotWingConspiracy: Corvus: HotWingConspiracy: Do you feel at least a little bit silly every time the people you attack are proven correct?

That Manchin is not at fault that he is being put up to this by Biden?

That's correct?

I'm going to need you to make sense at least once. Please. What the fark is this? Do you think anyone knows what the fark you're talking about?

So the people who say "Manchin actually wants to sign the bill but Biden is forcing him not to because all Democrats want it to fail" are correct?

That's what you believe?'

I'm literally begging you to string together a coherent thought before posting.


Good job trying to dodge the question. I would too.


You just said

o you feel at least a little bit silly every time the people you attack are proven correct?


So you think it will be proven that Biden and Democrats have a conspiracy making  Manchin up to voting no to give them cover?

That's what you think?
 
2021-12-21 9:36:40 AM  
His job isn't to do whatever Chuck, Nancy, and Joe say.  In addition, his job isn't to tell his constituents what's good for them even if they don't like it.

His job is to listen to the wishes of the people that elected him and act accordingly.  That's what he did.  I'm sorry that the Democratic Party and Fark don't seem to care for that, but he did his job.
 
2021-12-21 9:36:44 AM  
Is it still piracy if you sink a house boat?
 
2021-12-21 9:36:45 AM  

JAGChem82: lordjupiter: JAGChem82: Don't worry, I'm sure that the Manchin stans (Stanchins?) will be white knighting him any time soon on this thread about how we can't hurt his fee fees and how he'll run to the Republican party.

Anything else I'm missing?


No that's the main lie you guys keep propping up as a strawman.  You're good.

You guys? Son, don't ever consider me a "Fark Progressive" or whatever perjorative you think when seeing my posts.


You've got to remember that these are just simple Farkers.These are people of the land.The common clay of the new West.You know... morons.
 
2021-12-21 9:37:12 AM  

bthom37: JAGChem82: lordjupiter: JAGChem82: Don't worry, I'm sure that the Manchin stans (Stanchins?) will be white knighting him any time soon on this thread about how we can't hurt his fee fees and how he'll run to the Republican party.

Anything else I'm missing?


No that's the main lie you guys keep propping up as a strawman.  You're good.

You guys? Son, don't ever consider me a "Fark Progressive" or whatever perjorative you think when seeing my posts.

You've got to remember that these are just simple Farkers.These are people of the land.The common clay of the new West.You know... morons.


What's that comrade?
 
2021-12-21 9:37:27 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: Rapmaster2000: This bill is a joke.  They're giving all children pre-K, but nobody is giving me thousands of dollars to pay for the loans that I took out as an adult?

Conservative humor with another home run!


You are against the bill. You said these bills are "dogshiat".
 
2021-12-21 9:37:45 AM  

vikingfan73: His job isn't to do whatever Chuck, Nancy, and Joe say.  In addition, his job isn't to tell his constituents what's good for them even if they don't like it.

His job is to listen to the wishes of the people that elected him and act accordingly.  That's what he did.  I'm sorry that the Democratic Party and Fark don't seem to care for that, but he did his job.


Unfortunately the constituency he listened to was his donors, not West Virginians. Because the people who elected him want what he's killing off.
 
2021-12-21 9:37:53 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Ambivalence: Manchin is probably going to pull a Lieberman and run as an independent.

LOL no... West Virginia is a lot different than Connecticut.

No one can primary him... Literally no one.


I've thought about this a bit & here's my guess.

If Manchin stays a Democrat, he wins the primary but loses the general. As you say, no one can primary him, but the state is too solidly GOP for Manchin to win there in a presidential year.

If Manchin switches to a Republican, he loses the primary. Even if GOP leadership promises no challenges, a MTG type will run & would beat Manchin in a GOP primary in WV.

If Manchin runs as an independent, he doesn't get primaried, he can play the GOP & Democratic candidates against each other & get the votes of the people who like Manchin but would never pull the lever for a Democrat.

I'm guessing Manchin would still lose, but he would probably get more votes running as an independent than a Democrat.
 
2021-12-21 9:38:05 AM  
As long as everyone is hard at the end of the day; that's what really matters.
 
2021-12-21 9:38:06 AM  

mrwhippy: [scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net image 515x540]


This image would be applicable if he went against the wishes of the people that elected him.  He didn't.

A Senator's loyalty should lie with his/her constituents first, party second.  He's likely one of the most honest Senators we have.
 
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