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2021-12-19 6:28:30 AM  
It's not like most people go to Stormwind for much besides the Auction Houses and the mage portals anymore.  I didn't notice anything.

I did see some orc women in Orgrimmar that are a lot more tattooed than they used to be, but I'm not going to complain about that.
 
2021-12-19 8:42:37 AM  
I tried World of Warcraft once.

I had to kill a giant pig wearing a crown and it kept killing me.
I kept asking people to help me and they were downright evil to me!
Non one would help.
I spent all my time as a ghost running back to my corpse.

Never played again.
 
2021-12-19 8:52:36 AM  

buntz: I tried World of Warcraft once.

I had to kill a giant pig wearing a crown and it kept killing me.
I kept asking people to help me and they were downright evil to me!
Non one would help.
I spent all my time as a ghost running back to my corpse.

Never played again.


Git gud, nub.
 
2021-12-19 9:28:10 AM  
On one hand, it's good to have a more diverse NPC population in the game, and to make eye candy for a variety of tastes if there's going to be any. Sexism and racism can be combated in a lot of different ways.

On the other hand, it seems like Blizzard's sudden interest in fixing things like this is meant to divert attention away from all of the real-world and ongoing problems with sexism and sexual harassment, not to mention their dwindling subscriber numbers and lackluster current expansion (where "lackluster" is the nicest word I could think of).

And then on the third hand, they apparently plan to wrap up this expansion by "redeeming" Sylvanas, who gassed and tortured innocents, committed genocide, and was an all-around fascist creep during the whole previous expansion. That's not a good lesson to be putting out there, either as a matter of storytelling or as a matter of cultural norm-setting.
 
2021-12-19 9:33:42 AM  

Lochsteppe: On one hand, it's good to have a more diverse NPC population in the game, and to make eye candy for a variety of tastes if there's going to be any. Sexism and racism can be combated in a lot of different ways.

On the other hand, it seems like Blizzard's sudden interest in fixing things like this is meant to divert attention away from all of the real-world and ongoing problems with sexism and sexual harassment, not to mention their dwindling subscriber numbers and lackluster current expansion (where "lackluster" is the nicest word I could think of).

And then on the third hand, they apparently plan to wrap up this expansion by "redeeming" Sylvanas, who gassed and tortured innocents, committed genocide, and was an all-around fascist creep during the whole previous expansion. That's not a good lesson to be putting out there, either as a matter of storytelling or as a matter of cultural norm-setting.


and, basically they are saying she was brainwashed...yawn.

I played this game since it's inception and have recently quit....it's in such a terrible state right now,  I have no desire to even come back for 9.2
 
2021-12-19 9:34:11 AM  
Just wait till they walk up the main road in Whiterun.
 
2021-12-19 9:35:27 AM  
R.i.p. Maine Coone pet
 
2021-12-19 9:47:05 AM  
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2021-12-19 9:54:46 AM  
LucasLuminaro:
I played this game since it's inception and have recently quit....it's in such a terrible state right now,  I have no desire to even come back for 9.2

I dropped out sometime in 9.0 because it was boring and I hated the Torghast grind. I keep an eye on the game to see where the lore went and I was not surprised by the stupid.

1. Oh noes. Andiun has been brainwashed and is now Arthas Jr, complete with Defile mechanics. Hey Kids, Member Lich King? Want that boss again?

2. It was the Jailer all along. He's behind everything. Don't need to explain why he rebelled in the first place.

3. A random dipshiat is the new Arbiter.

4. Argus broke the old Arbiter bot. WTF is that shiat?

5. Let's end the Warrior of Elune storyline and make Elune look like a total idiot.


I will not purchase or support any Blizzard product until Bobby Kotick and the rest of the enablers have been purged.
 
2021-12-19 10:11:07 AM  
Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.
 
2021-12-19 10:13:33 AM  

Lochsteppe: ...they apparently plan to wrap up this expansion by "redeeming" Sylvanas, who gassed and tortured innocents, committed genocide, and was an all-around fascist creep during the whole previous expansion. That's not a good lesson to be putting out there, either as a matter of storytelling or as a matter of cultural norm-setting.


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"I think she deserves another chance. Genocide isn't wrong if you're all sad inside when you do it."
 
2021-12-19 10:50:10 AM  
Pandering has suddenly become a popular word with conservatives.  They keep using it wrong.  You'll see it.
 
2021-12-19 11:09:58 AM  
The WoW community as a whole is so farking toxic, so this isn't surprising at all. Started playing FFXIV earlier this year, never been happier in an MMO. Community is friendly and helpful, storyline is interesting, you get to try out all the Jobs without rolling dozens of alts, and Amazon Bunnywomen. So much happier there.
 
2021-12-19 11:11:10 AM  
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2021-12-19 11:31:07 AM  

buntz: I tried World of Warcraft once.

I had to kill a giant pig wearing a crown and it kept killing me.
I kept asking people to help me and they were downright evil to me!
Non one would help.
I spent all my time as a ghost running back to my corpse.

Never played again.


You should of said you were a female. You would have won the game.
 
2021-12-19 11:40:11 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Pandering has suddenly become a popular word with conservatives.  They keep using it wrong.  You'll see it.


But this really is pandering though. Probably combined with some virtue signalling.

It wasn't a problem until subscription counts took a dive and they got yelled at for their workplace culture. Now they're suddenly going "look, we removed that painting with cleavage, changed some succubi into incubi, and changed the skin colour on some NPCs. Surely we're still good guys?"

They are cheap words and low effort external displays they make to prop up their reputation in the hope people will like them again. Why is it pandering and virtue signaling rather than constructive change? Because every month there are new complaints from people working there so they haven't actually improved anything.

It is one big joke that is making the players cynical about priorities and the efforts put into the game.

/Yes, the dude saying there are too many black people is an asshole
//You might have noticed that tfa also said he got banned from the platform he said it on
 
2021-12-19 11:51:43 AM  

buntz: I tried World of Warcraft once.

I had to kill a giant pig wearing a crown and it kept killing me.
I kept asking people to help me and they were downright evil to me!
Non one would help.
I spent all my time as a ghost running back to my corpse.

Never played again.


See what you needed to do is kill 19,801 boars...

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2021-12-19 11:57:51 AM  
There is no chin behind Chuck Norris' beard. There is only another fist.
 
2021-12-19 12:06:17 PM  
Nice try, Fark mods. Not giving you the excuse this time.
 
2021-12-19 12:09:23 PM  
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2021-12-19 12:12:03 PM  
Them and Wizards of the Coast. I'm not sure who is doing more virtue signaling right now.
 
2021-12-19 1:06:29 PM  
I quit WoW several years ago.
Seems I left at the right time.
Nothing I've seen in the past years has changed my mind.
 
2021-12-19 1:25:49 PM  
Slip a patch into the servers that - just specially for him alone - renders everyone else as Black.
 
2021-12-19 1:39:50 PM  
Looking at the screenshots this article is based on, it looks like this is mostly Kotaku trolling for clicks.

From what I can gather it basically went:


Somebody said something that sure looked racist

The mods said "Explain yourself immediately or you're getting banned"

The original person didn't explain themselves

They got banned


So the whole "debate" is whether its reasonable to ask for an explanation before banning in a small Discord community like this.

I'd prefer that they just banned the guy immediately, but asking for an explanation isn't so bad that a website needs to be writing articles about the Discord conversation.  Not even close.  The right thing got done long before the Kotaku article.
 
2021-12-19 2:09:11 PM  
People still play WoW unironically?

One would think people could make better use of their time...for example, DOING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING ELSE.
 
2021-12-19 2:26:37 PM  

Aquapope: Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.


And we got big booty Norn chicks

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2021-12-19 2:28:31 PM  
Seriously? so long as the NPC does what is supposed to do the color of it's skin is a minor detail.
 
2021-12-19 3:14:12 PM  
Every single person who unironically uses the term "virtue signaling" as a pejorative is a complete piece of shiat who deserves neither kindness nor respect. All of them. No exceptions.
 
2021-12-19 3:21:18 PM  
a) fark racists
b) stop giving activision blizzard money, they're pieces of shiat.
 
2021-12-19 3:22:00 PM  

shoegaze99: Every single person who unironically uses the term "virtue signaling" as a pejorative is a complete piece of shiat who deserves neither kindness nor respect. All of them. No exceptions.


Nice virtue signalling there, chief.
 
2021-12-19 3:33:58 PM  
Kotaku really trying hard to carry water for the abusive game companies by pretending that one person on a random discord server thinking their attempts to pander to racial progressives comes off as insincere is totally the biggest problem the company has at the moment.

Yes, of course, one random guy on the internet complaining about something basically everyone doesn't particularly think is a problem, truly Blizzard is the real victim here.  Now if you'll excuse me, I'm missing my corporate rape session at Activision HQ, we're in crunch right now so I've got to get 70 hours of being raped in over the next two days without being paid for it or I'm fired.  Please carry on about how this one particular kinda specious complaint from a random edgy fourteen year old is the only Blizzard-relevant news and sympathizing deeply with how much this multibillion dollar corporation is put-upon by the entitled gamers without our help, we'd assign another employee to assist but we fired them all explicitly because they were female, not that it mattered since we weren't paying them anyhow.
 
2021-12-19 4:06:33 PM  
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2021-12-19 4:42:13 PM  

AgtSmithReloaded: People still play WoW unironically?

One would think people could make better use of their time...for example, DOING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING ELSE.


Like what?

You prefer moving the lawn, than to socialise with friends, fine. But its not uncommon to feel the joy of socialising towards a backdrop. Like D&D etc.
 
2021-12-19 4:49:08 PM  

Aquapope: Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.


I was gonna say that or FF14 but they got they're own problems right now. Good problems, but problems all the same.
 
2021-12-19 4:50:55 PM  

Ketchuponsteak: AgtSmithReloaded: People still play WoW unironically?

One would think people could make better use of their time...for example, DOING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING ELSE.

Like what?

You prefer moving the lawn, than to socialise with friends, fine. But its not uncommon to feel the joy of socialising towards a backdrop. Like D&D etc.


There are far better games produced by far better people . . . as far as we know. A couple have already been mentioned.
 
2021-12-19 5:03:31 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Kotaku really trying hard to carry water for the abusive game companies by pretending that one person on a random discord server thinking their attempts to pander to racial progressives comes off as insincere is totally the biggest problem the company has at the moment.


Pretty much all of the old guard is gone except for Fahey, who's wonderful but only working there because he was suddenly paralyzed a few years ago and I'm sure needs the insurance coverage, and Plunkett who is the night shift so they probably leave him alone.

Everyone else jumped ship during the whole Deadspin debacle, left cause they realized it's a shiatty job(well, it's always been a shiatty job), or got pushed out by the new management.

Kotaku has never been a great site but you can almost see the people on high telling them to manufacture drama for clicks. That's one reason I respect RockPaperShotgun. When they create a internet firestorm, it's because of their own naturally formed piss poor takes they thought were a good idea. Not something manufactured for some engagement number.
 
2021-12-19 5:45:42 PM  

buntz: I tried World of Warcraft once.

I had to kill a giant pig wearing a crown and it kept killing me.
I kept asking people to help me and they were downright evil to me!
Non one would help.
I spent all my time as a ghost running back to my corpse.

Never played again.


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2021-12-19 6:04:26 PM  

shoegaze99: Every single person who unironically uses the term "virtue signaling" as a pejorative is a complete piece of shiat who deserves neither kindness nor respect. All of them. No exceptions.


Why? Do you think making empty supportive statements about a cause as long as no actual commitment is required, when they suddenly bow out, isn't a thing people should be called out for?

AgtSmithReloaded: One would think people could make better use of their time...for example, DOING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING ELSE.


You are right.

I'll go to the gym! ... Which are closed due to covid.
I'll meet friends at a restaurant or a bar! ... Which are closed due to covid.
I'll have friends over for dinner! ... Which isn't technically allowed due to covid.
I'll go to a museum and learn something! ... But they are closed due to covid.
I'll go see a movie! ... If the cinemas weren't closed due to covid.

Hmmm... it almost seems like the things I normally do with my free time aren't really possible due to this little pandemic we've got going around.

Guess I'll go back to a social kind of gaming in my MMO of choice.

/Which I wouldn't be playing as much if shiat was open
 
2021-12-19 6:15:11 PM  

shoegaze99: Every single person who unironically uses the term "virtue signaling" as a pejorative is a complete piece of shiat who deserves neither kindness nor respect. All of them. No exceptions.


Virtue signalling is, and remains, a term used to describe behaviour whereby a person draws a huge amount of attention to how good they are as a person for helping a misrepresented or underrepresented group while doing nothing of actual value for that group or indeed anyone else.

That behaviour is real, it happens and if you do it and are called out for it, tough luck.
 
2021-12-19 6:15:52 PM  
An unofficial World of Warcraft Discord server...

Stopped reading there, cannot think of a reason to care about any of this.
 
2021-12-19 6:20:32 PM  

BarryJV: shoegaze99: Every single person who unironically uses the term "virtue signaling" as a pejorative is a complete piece of shiat who deserves neither kindness nor respect. All of them. No exceptions.

Virtue signalling is, and remains, a term used to describe behaviour whereby a person draws a huge amount of attention to how good they are as a person for helping a misrepresented or underrepresented group while doing nothing of actual value for that group or indeed anyone else.

That behaviour is real, it happens and if you do it and are called out for it, tough luck.


You're wasting your breathe. We're dealing with a generation that genuinely believes that re-tweeting a trending hashtag puts them on par with Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat on the bus.
 
2021-12-19 6:34:31 PM  

WhippingBoi: BarryJV: shoegaze99: Every single person who unironically uses the term "virtue signaling" as a pejorative is a complete piece of shiat who deserves neither kindness nor respect. All of them. No exceptions.

Virtue signalling is, and remains, a term used to describe behaviour whereby a person draws a huge amount of attention to how good they are as a person for helping a misrepresented or underrepresented group while doing nothing of actual value for that group or indeed anyone else.

That behaviour is real, it happens and if you do it and are called out for it, tough luck.

You're wasting your breathe. We're dealing with a generation that genuinely believes that re-tweeting a trending hashtag puts them on par with Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat on the bus.


Personally I think it is more of a group of people not understanding sarcasm.

They think they really did something well when they are told "Nice going, genius" after messing something up.
 
2021-12-19 7:09:17 PM  

Boudyro: Aquapope: Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.

And we got big booty Norn chicks

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A size comparison for those not familiar with the game:

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Snu-snu!
 
2021-12-19 7:11:28 PM  

Lochsteppe: And then on the third hand, they apparently plan to wrap up this expansion by "redeeming" Sylvanas, who gassed and tortured innocents, committed genocide, and was an all-around fascist creep during the whole previous expansion.


They gonna rename her Bobby Kotick too?
 
2021-12-19 7:23:02 PM  

BarryJV: shoegaze99: Every single person who unironically uses the term "virtue signaling" as a pejorative is a complete piece of shiat who deserves neither kindness nor respect. All of them. No exceptions.

Virtue signalling is, and remains, a term used to describe behaviour whereby a person draws a huge amount of attention to how good they are as a person for helping a misrepresented or underrepresented group while doing nothing of actual value for that group or indeed anyone else.

That behaviour is real, it happens and if you do it and are called out for it, tough luck.


And everyone clapped for Marine Todd.
 
2021-12-19 8:01:32 PM  

Aquapope: Boudyro: Aquapope: Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.

And we got big booty Norn chicks

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[i.pinimg.com image 850x465]

[i.pinimg.com image 600x1500]

A size comparison for those not familiar with the game:

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Snu-snu!


I created the biggest, ugliest* female Norn I could and named her "Tonk Not Fat" with the intent of running around shouting "ME WANT SNU-SNU, OUT ME WAY". I didn't get that far though because some guy kept following me around and giving me shiat, despite me not interacting with him AT ALL beyond accepting free shiat, because I guess he thought I was a girl IRL. So I figured, probably best not to announce that I wanted snu-snu.

*being basically impossible to make an actually ugly character in GW2
 
2021-12-19 8:06:30 PM  

Tranquil Hegemony: Aquapope: Boudyro: Aquapope: Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.

And we got big booty Norn chicks

[Fark user image 425x285]

[i.pinimg.com image 850x465]

[i.pinimg.com image 600x1500]

A size comparison for those not familiar with the game:

[Fark user image 425x674]

Snu-snu!

I created the biggest, ugliest* female Norn I could and named her "Tonk Not Fat" with the intent of running around shouting "ME WANT SNU-SNU, OUT ME WAY". I didn't get that far though because some guy kept following me around and giving me shiat, despite me not interacting with him AT ALL beyond accepting free shiat, because I guess he thought I was a girl IRL. So I figured, probably best not to announce that I wanted snu-snu.

*being basically impossible to make an actually ugly character in GW2


My ex made a blue bald-headed Sylvari mesmer and named her Zhaan.
 
2021-12-19 8:10:01 PM  

Boudyro: Tranquil Hegemony: Aquapope: Boudyro: Aquapope: Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.

And we got big booty Norn chicks

[Fark user image 425x285]

[i.pinimg.com image 850x465]

[i.pinimg.com image 600x1500]

A size comparison for those not familiar with the game:

[Fark user image 425x674]

Snu-snu!

I created the biggest, ugliest* female Norn I could and named her "Tonk Not Fat" with the intent of running around shouting "ME WANT SNU-SNU, OUT ME WAY". I didn't get that far though because some guy kept following me around and giving me shiat, despite me not interacting with him AT ALL beyond accepting free shiat, because I guess he thought I was a girl IRL. So I figured, probably best not to announce that I wanted snu-snu.

*being basically impossible to make an actually ugly character in GW2

My ex made a blue bald-headed Sylvari mesmer and named her Zhaan.


Heh I forgot mine:

Norn guardian named Breetai that I used to command on in WvW. He always wears an eye patch.

And my mes is an Asura male named Exedore.
 
2021-12-19 8:59:56 PM  

Boudyro: Ketchuponsteak: AgtSmithReloaded: People still play WoW unironically?

One would think people could make better use of their time...for example, DOING ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING ELSE.

Like what?

You prefer moving the lawn, than to socialise with friends, fine. But its not uncommon to feel the joy of socialising towards a backdrop. Like D&D etc.

There are far better games produced by far better people . . . as far as we know. A couple have already been mentioned.


That doesn't matter when your social group has been playing the same game for 15 years.

I stopped playing WoW myself, but for the last 5 years, it was just social. Eventually it's no longer "new".
 
2021-12-19 10:01:55 PM  

Aquapope: Come to Guild Wars 2.  No drama.  Be white, be black, be brown, red, green, purple, who cares.  A new expansion comes out in February.  Good times.


I don't really play MMOs, but I'll shill for Guild Wars.  I've known Ree since she was a PhD student at Carolina, and she did some amazing work for both L5R and Avalanche Press.
 
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