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2021-12-11 1:37:35 AM  
He kinda sorta answered the question when he said he was very disappointed with the outcome. He just won't say it was a legitimate outcome. But then, when you think about it, even Trump acts like it was the legit outcome. Compare the US 2020 election with a genuine steal, such as we saw in Afghanistan this year when the Taliban took over from the democratically elected election winners. The elected government had to flee the country into exile, and the world condemned the Taliban administration.

If Republicans actually believed the 2020 election was "stolen" by shady forces of darkness, they wouldn't be sticking around to contest the next election because the same shady forces would guarantee the same undemoctratic outcome. They'd be in exile raising support to have the US government declared an unlawful dictatorship breaching the human rights of hundreds of millions of Americans. They clearly aren't doing that.

Of course this is all too much to explain to Republican voters who only believe what they want to believe and because I'm explaining facts that's clearly a waste of energy. I'll just leave this here to demonstrate how disinterested in facts these clowns are....

'Daily Show's' Klepper reveals what happened at Trump rally
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2021-12-11 1:49:56 AM  
So the reason they get elected, is so they can spend time to make sure they re-elected?
 
2021-12-11 1:54:01 AM  

kkinnison: So the reason they get elected, is so they can spend time to make sure they re-elected?


And pretty much every member of the House has to successfully beg for thousands of dollars in donations, every single day, to keep the seat.  It doesn't leave them much time for anything else.
 
2021-12-11 3:13:24 AM  

kkinnison: So the reason they get elected, is so they can spend time to make sure they re-elected?


Check the net worth of US Senators some time. Many of them were well off before winning a seat, but whether they were or not, all of them end up becoming multimillionaires by the end of their first term. It's a very, very lucrative job.
 
2021-12-11 5:20:39 AM  
If the opposite of pro is con, what's the opposite of Congress?
 
2021-12-11 5:54:07 AM  

kkinnison: So the reason they get elected, is so they can spend time to make sure they re-elected?


That's the primary job of a Congressperson: getting re-elected.
 
2021-12-11 6:03:10 AM  

skybird659: If the opposite of pro is con, what's the opposite of Congress?


A tired joke?
 
2021-12-11 6:06:53 AM  

DogParkSniper: skybird659: If the opposite of pro is con, what's the opposite of Congress?

A tired joke?


The opposite was asked for. Not the same.

The opposite of Congress would be "efficient, moral and beloved".
 
2021-12-11 6:13:26 AM  
Acknowledging the truth literally gets Rs shunned and/or kicked out of the party. The cult demands blood sacrifice.
 
2021-12-11 6:19:30 AM  

hoohoodilly: Acknowledging the truth literally gets Rs shunned and/or kicked out of the party. The cult demands blood sacrifice.


The Emperor Has No Clothes doesn't work with the modern Rethuglican Party, because the person who points it out gets stoned to death.
 
2021-12-11 6:46:41 AM  
What happens when every loser, moron, scumbag, dirtball, trash, degenerate, immoral, dishonest, gravitate to a political movement? We are witnessing the result in real time courtesy of the GQP, and we get to enjoy the results when the low information votes out of ignorance and others cant get off the couch to tear themselves away from reality TV.
 
2021-12-11 7:02:19 AM  
My googlefu is weak today but daily show had an interview in which a congressman said that getting relegated was a senators first job and passing legislation was second. The interviewer asked if he wanted to try that again and the answer changed to pass legislation then get re-elected.

I always felt that was one of the single most true moments on that show but damned if couldn't find the clip.
 
2021-12-11 7:10:38 AM  

thiefofdreams: My googlefu is weak today but daily show had an interview in which a congressman said that getting relegated was a senators first job and passing legislation was second. The interviewer asked if he wanted to try that again and the answer changed to pass legislation then get re-elected.

I always felt that was one of the single most true moments on that show but damned if couldn't find the clip.


Amusing autocorrect. The vast majority of senators deserve to be relegated.
 
2021-12-11 7:24:26 AM  
winning office

Well, that and murdering democrats.
 
2021-12-11 7:29:43 AM  
Read that as Russian candidates for a second. I'm not sure that was wrong.
 
2021-12-11 7:32:50 AM  
If righting wrongs were the first order of business of any politician in the U.S., I would assume we were living in a simulation not reality.

Politicians have different strategies to get votes. As such they are mirrors of their constituents' characters; and unfortunately, because so many moderates have abandoned each party, that means the primary voters in each party act like a gaggle of rabid geese shiatting themselves now.

Time to end the closed primary systems in all states. It wont solve the problem but it will help.
 
2021-12-11 7:42:23 AM  
Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?
 
2021-12-11 7:43:44 AM  

kkinnison: So the reason they get elected, is so they can spend time to make sure they re-elected?


Yep.

Mitch McConnell has done little else for forty years.
 
2021-12-11 7:50:35 AM  
The number of people in this country who need to be locked into a portable toilet and set on fire is growing exponentially by the day.
 
2021-12-11 7:51:43 AM  

Gyrfalcon: kkinnison: So the reason they get elected, is so they can spend time to make sure they re-elected?

Yep.

Mitch McConnell has done little else for forty years.


...other than blocking tons of legislation, and packing the judiciary with as many GOP nominees as he possibly could. Be careful calling him "do-nothing"; he's more dangerous than that.
 
2021-12-11 8:10:24 AM  
A few questions Mr. republican candidate-

Is the earth round or flat?

Is Bigfoot real or made up?

Did Donald Trump lose or win the election?

Are you a liar or crazy?
 
2021-12-11 8:25:38 AM  

kkinnison: So the reason they get elected, is so they can spend time to make sure they re-elected?


Actually.  Yes.  I do believe it was John Oliver that did a piece on it...  The basic gist of it was that once elected, they spend some 80% of their time on the phone doing fund raising for their, and their closest ally's re-elections.

That is why they don't have time to read the bills that they are voting on.

At the risk of stating the obvious, this is one of the biggest problems with our government.  The people that we vote into office are concerned only with re-election.  That's it.  Any decision they make, any vote they attend, everything they say out loud - it is all in an effort to make sure they get voted back in.

And that is some bullshiat right there.
 
2021-12-11 8:29:01 AM  

ssa5: What happens when every loser, moron, scumbag, dirtball, trash, degenerate, immoral, dishonest, gravitate to a political movement? We are witnessing the result in real time courtesy of the GQP, and we get to enjoy the results when the low information votes out of ignorance and others cant get off the couch to tear themselves away from reality TV.


https://www.vox.com/2015/6/22/8825135/john-oliver-australia-guns
 
2021-12-11 8:29:16 AM  

the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?


Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.
 
2021-12-11 8:29:29 AM  

Animatronik: Time to end the closed primary systems in all states. It wont solve the problem but it will help.


The problem I see is that primaries still end up suffering from self-selection, where only the most rabid partisans with an ax to grind will turn out to vote. This will be true whether we have an open system or not, as the need to register with a party is already a pretty low bar.

At the end of the day, politicians do one thing well, and that's get elected. There is nothing that requires them to be "good" at governing let alone intelligent or even remotely competent.

The problem so many on the left have is that they conflate the ideas of  results with electability. "If only we accomplish more, the voters will choose us." The right dispenses with this faulty logic and just pursues electoral success directly. "Who cares what I actually do; if I shout about [pet cause] loudly enough, i'll win."
 
2021-12-11 8:31:27 AM  

the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?


Deep thoughts with the unabomber was right
 
2021-12-11 8:33:20 AM  

the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?


Show me where the leftists tried to violently overthrow the government, fired everyone who thought the election was legitimate, passed legislation to suppress opposition voters allow them to unilaterally overturn any future elections whose results they don't like, and years later refuse to acknowledge that Clinton won the primary and insist that Bernie is secretly running everything from the shadows and will be instated as President any day now.

There's delusions, and then there's what you're willing to do in response to those delusions.  Both sides are NOT the same.
 
2021-12-11 8:34:34 AM  

Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.


Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.
 
2021-12-11 8:36:16 AM  

the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?


The "leftists" didn't spend a year screaming to anyone who would listen with no evidence whatsoever. And Bernie wasn't part of it.
 
2021-12-11 8:36:17 AM  

Animatronik: because so many moderates have abandoned each party


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2021-12-11 8:37:51 AM  
Anytime one of these scumbags refuses to state that Biden won fair and square, the follow up should always be, "We're you elected in 2020? Yes? Then why haven't you resigned? Because by your own words you didn't win a legitimate election."
 
2021-12-11 8:47:26 AM  

Shaggy_C: Animatronik: Time to end the closed primary systems in all states. It wont solve the problem but it will help.

The problem I see is that primaries still end up suffering from self-selection, where only the most rabid partisans with an ax to grind will turn out to vote. This will be true whether we have an open system or not, as the need to register with a party is already a pretty low bar.

At the end of the day, politicians do one thing well, and that's get elected. There is nothing that requires them to be "good" at governing let alone intelligent or even remotely competent.

The problem so many on the left have is that they conflate the ideas of  results with electability. "If only we accomplish more, the voters will choose us." The right dispenses with this faulty logic and just pursues electoral success directly. "Who cares what I actually do; if I shout about [pet cause] loudly enough, i'll win."


I don't really see either side as accomplishing much right now. The Democrats are in charge but they've veered so far to the left that they are disconnected from reality; that's why they keep pushing a massive spending bill that they think will get more votes, but will a.) make things much worse during an inflationary spiral, b.) Is not favored by most of the public, and c.) Is completely unnecessary in a economy that is coming out of a recession and has too much money from the govt in it already.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are just as bad at spewing lies to satisfy extreme fools in their caucus, like Biden labeling guys as white supremacists, calling voting reform Jim Crow, and generally saying and doing things to keep the Warren/Sanders crowd happy.

No, I wouldn't say the Democrats have accomplished much other than exciting the extreme wing of their party. And the world keeps spinning, with China and Russia and Iran doing worse things and inflation inccreasing.
 
2021-12-11 8:50:38 AM  

Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.


Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.
 
2021-12-11 8:52:17 AM  

Boondock3806: Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.

Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.


Take a break, man. Those goalposts look heavy.
 
2021-12-11 8:55:01 AM  

Animatronik: b.) Is not favored by most of the public,


Well that one is objectively false. The rest of your spewage is just opinion.
 
2021-12-11 9:10:58 AM  

Mugato: Animatronik: b.) Is not favored by most of the public,

Well that one is objectively false. The rest of your spewage is just opinion.


You spelled "sewage" wrong.
 
2021-12-11 9:11:49 AM  

skybird659: If the opposite of pro is con, what's the opposite of Congress?


I don't know but your mother's a whore.
 
2021-12-11 9:32:11 AM  

Aussie_As: He kinda sorta answered the question when he said he was very disappointed with the outcome. He just won't say it was a legitimate outcome. But then, when you think about it, even Trump acts like it was the legit outcome. Compare the US 2020 election with a genuine steal, such as we saw in Afghanistan this year when the Taliban took over from the democratically elected election winners. The elected government had to flee the country into exile, and the world condemned the Taliban administration.

If Republicans actually believed the 2020 election was "stolen" by shady forces of darkness, they wouldn't be sticking around to contest the next election because the same shady forces would guarantee the same undemoctratic outcome. They'd be in exile raising support to have the US government declared an unlawful dictatorship breaching the human rights of hundreds of millions of Americans. They clearly aren't doing that.

Of course this is all too much to explain to Republican voters who only believe what they want to believe and because I'm explaining facts that's clearly a waste of energy. I'll just leave this here to demonstrate how disinterested in facts these clowns are....

[YouTube video: 'Daily Show's' Klepper reveals what happened at Trump rally]


Whether they want to believe it or not, it's a glorified hobby to rage and post inflammatory signs/flags on their property. They are in a club at best, a cult at worst. All people who are in sync with them makes them feel good because they belong to a group and a cause. And you're right, if they truly believed that Democrats stole the election, then they would be doing more than whining like babies and having their LARP events. Deep down, I think most of them know they're wrong but they don't want to give up the things that make them feel good. Kind of like how an 8-year-old still "believes" in Santa.
 
2021-12-11 9:32:51 AM  

the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?


Did Bernie get the most votes?
 
2021-12-11 9:34:08 AM  

the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?


trollin, trollin, trollin.
 
2021-12-11 9:41:20 AM  

qorkfiend: Boondock3806: Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.

Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.

Take a break, man. Those goalposts look heavy.


qorkfiend

Dafuq?

2016 Bernie supporters have more credibility than The Big Lie believers. Equating the two is horseshiat. 

That's the goalpost. Address it or move along.
 
2021-12-11 9:52:36 AM  

Boondock3806: qorkfiend: Boondock3806: Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.

Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.

Take a break, man. Those goalposts look heavy.

qorkfiend

Dafuq?

2016 Bernie supporters have more credibility than The Big Lie believers. Equating the two is horseshiat. 

That's the goalpost. Address it or move along.


Dunno, some of the Bernie nuts I know are pretty damn delusional about a lot of shiat.
 
2021-12-11 9:53:55 AM  

Animatronik: I don't really see either side as accomplishing much right now. The Democrats are in charge but they've veered so far to the left that they are disconnected from reality; that's why they keep pushing a massive spending bill that they think will get more votes, but will a.) make things much worse during an inflationary spiral, b.) Is not favored by most of the public, and c.) Is completely unnecessary in a economy that is coming out of a recession and has too much money from the govt in it already.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are just as bad at spewing lies to satisfy extreme fools in their caucus, like Biden labeling guys as white supremacists, calling voting reform Jim Crow, and generally saying and doing things to keep the Warren/Sanders crowd happy.

No, I wouldn't say the Democrats have accomplished much other than exciting the extreme wing of their party. And the world keeps spinning, with China and Russia and Iran doing worse things and inflation inccreasing.


There have actually been a good number of bipartisan bills passed this year - there's a Manchin "success card" that he hands out to reporters providing the long list of successes. In the ways that matter the party is still firmly im control of the pragmatists.

The problem, as always is one of messaging; you're right that to appease the far left, Biden's rhetoric has completely come to odds with reality. And, instead of trumpeting a pretty impressive list of wins, he and the other leaders spend their time wringing their hands and apologising about not doing more. This of course gives you a double fail; he alienates centrists who don't want massive spending increases, and infuriates his own base by telling them about all the things he's failed to deliver.

They make the simple so difficult...
 
2021-12-11 9:58:02 AM  

Deathfrogg: Boondock3806: qorkfiend: Boondock3806: Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.

Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.

Take a break, man. Those goalposts look heavy.

qorkfiend

Dafuq?

2016 Bernie supporters have more credibility than The Big Lie believers. Equating the two is horseshiat. 

That's the goalpost. Address it or move along.

Dunno, some of the Bernie nuts I know are pretty damn delusional about a lot of shiat.


Did they storm the Capitol? Vote for anyone who tried to overthrow the government? Wait for JFK Jr at Dealey Plaza?
 
2021-12-11 9:58:22 AM  

Animatronik: The Democrats are in charge but they've veered so far to the left that they are disconnected from reality;


The fact that you think the Democrats are "far to the left" shows how far to the right the Republicans have pushed you.
 
2021-12-11 10:04:57 AM  

Deathfrogg: Boondock3806: qorkfiend: Boondock3806: Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.

Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.

Take a break, man. Those goalposts look heavy.

qorkfiend

Dafuq?

2016 Bernie supporters have more credibility than The Big Lie believers. Equating the two is horseshiat. 

That's the goalpost. Address it or move along.

Dunno, some of the Bernie nuts I know are pretty damn delusional about a lot of shiat.


Wait what

Not the delusional part, the Bernie part
 
2021-12-11 10:06:40 AM  

Boondock3806: qorkfiend: Boondock3806: Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.

Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.

Take a break, man. Those goalposts look heavy.

qorkfiend

Dafuq?

2016 Bernie supporters have more credibility than The Big Lie believers. Equating the two is horseshiat. 

That's the goalpost. Address it or move along.


It was more a comment on your jump from "this is absolute fact" to "someone at the DNC said something"
 
2021-12-11 10:16:30 AM  

Mugato: The "leftists" didn't spend a year screaming to anyone who would listen with no evidence whatsoever. And Bernie wasn't part of it.


Spoken like someone who did not read the source material I cited, nor did any research on the subject and still says "there's no evidence". The only thing you're right about is that Bernie wasn't part of it. The only thing Dems have been successful about in the past 5 years is stopping him from making the country better.
 
2021-12-11 10:19:07 AM  

qorkfiend: Boondock3806: qorkfiend: Boondock3806: Mr.Insightful: Boondock3806: the unabomber was right: Its ridiculous to me that the majority of Fark will make fun of Republicans for thinking that the 2020 election was stolen. Yet previously they were making fun of leftists for believing that the 2016 primary was rigged against Bernie without doing any research about the subject. Which is it? Are elections rigged or not?

Not commenting on either of the two, but DNC and Hilary were famously coupled in a way that put Bernie in an almost impossible position.

But still, good job being edgy and all. Username weirdly checks out.

Brazile was trying to sell a book, and said things that were outright false and she had to walk back a few days later.

If you want, you can read dozens of books filled with fabrications about how Trump supposedly won and election fraud, etc.  It doesn't make it true.

Bottom line: someone of power in the dnc was talking about this. I haven't done my homework on the background of this, but it already lends a level of credibility that TFG never had.

Putting them in the same category as supporters of the guy who got thrown out of 58 courtrooms out of 58 (probably more by now) is disingenuous and flat wrong. Please don't die on this hill.

Take a break, man. Those goalposts look heavy.

qorkfiend

Dafuq?

2016 Bernie supporters have more credibility than The Big Lie believers. Equating the two is horseshiat. 

That's the goalpost. Address it or move along.

It was more a comment on your jump from "this is absolute fact" to "someone at the DNC said something"


I didn't frame the point well, because in all honesty all that mattered to me that year was not trump.

Bernie supporters had a valid reason at the time to believe a thing was true.

I've never said such a thing about Trump supporters.

Some BSAB edge lord decided to call out farkers for being the same as Trumpers.
 
2021-12-11 10:20:15 AM  

Kris_Romm: DogParkSniper: skybird659: If the opposite of pro is con, what's the opposite of Congress?

A tired joke?

The opposite was asked for. Not the same.

The opposite of Congress would be "efficient, moral and beloved".


I was totally unaware that the opposite of congress was a dog. Who knew. And to be blunt, if given the option I would probably continue to vote for random dog's over most of congress...
 
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