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2021-12-10 10:26:42 AM  
I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.
 
2021-12-10 10:28:35 AM  
* I should point out that the clients could be a Big Tobacco firm that make E-cigarettes, and they have long established the fervent desire to destroy the rest of the vaping industry so they can have complete control over it by being able to comply with regulations they can afford (and fight for) but independent vaping companies can't.
 
2021-12-10 11:30:13 AM  
Are you saying, it went up in ...
Puts on glasses
Smoke?
 
2021-12-10 11:30:24 AM  
If you're vaping through your penis, there may be other issues to work on.
 
2021-12-10 11:32:24 AM  

Salmon: If you're vaping through your penis, there may be other issues to work on.


I can swallow a can of coke with my foreskin.
 
2021-12-10 11:33:19 AM  
Study sponsored by the American Tobacco Industry.
 
2021-12-10 11:33:45 AM  
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2021-12-10 11:35:11 AM  

Psychopusher: I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.


Ditto. Smoked for 25 years, been vaping for the last 5 or so. I can still punch an eagle out of the sky with my hard-on.
 
2021-12-10 11:35:48 AM  
Just thinking about this. Doesn't booze effect the penis too?

so if you drink booze and vape does your penis shrink into you ?
 
2021-12-10 11:35:54 AM  
This will crash the Subaru WRX and BRZ markets.
 
2021-12-10 11:36:05 AM  
Kids like the big clouds of smoke they blow.  I blame Harry Potter and dragons and that.
 
2021-12-10 11:36:13 AM  

steklo: Just thinking about this. Doesn't booze effect the penis too?

so if you drink booze and vape does your penis shrink into you ?


Yeah, it become an innie .
 
2021-12-10 11:36:16 AM  
Yeah, I doubt this. Besides, wasn't it reported/confirmed that cigarettes already did this like decades ago?
 
2021-12-10 11:36:25 AM  
A known vasoconstrictor correlates to ED? This is my surprised face.

Psychopusher: I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.


FT(actual)article: Whereas the first generation of ENDS delivered low levels of nicotine, many of the newer ENDS devices, coupled with currently available high-nicotine e-liquid concentrations, can effectively deliver higher levels of nicotine than cigarettes.

No all vape users consume nicotine, but plenty do and, according to that, some consume higher levels than tobacco cigarettes. The fact that you claim to be able to get it up is hardly proof to the contrary.
 
2021-12-10 11:36:36 AM  

Earthworm Jim Jones: Salmon: If you're vaping through your penis, there may be other issues to work on.

I can swallow a can of coke with my foreskin.


This is one of those comments that's going to bounce around my head all day. Well done.
 
2021-12-10 11:36:53 AM  
It's at least as likely that dudes likely to have concerns about the functionality of their penis are statistically more likely to be drawn to vaping.
 
2021-12-10 11:36:58 AM  
So a 0.0001% chance becomes 0.0002% ?

Be afraid.
 
2021-12-10 11:37:32 AM  
All the 'cooo' American teens die from Covid?
 
2021-12-10 11:38:25 AM  

Earthworm Jim Jones: Salmon: If you're vaping through your penis, there may be other issues to work on.

I can swallow a can of coke with my foreskin.


but can you snort a rail with your urethra?
 
2021-12-10 11:38:43 AM  

Rattlesnake Rattles Me: steklo: Just thinking about this. Doesn't booze effect the penis too?

so if you drink booze and vape does your penis shrink into you ?

Yeah, it become an innie .


I know a lot of trans women who would be interested in this lifehack. Bottom surgery ain't cheap.
 
2021-12-10 11:40:20 AM  
Yes, this was to expected.  Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor.  It's not vaping specific.
 
2021-12-10 11:40:46 AM  
No matter how hard you try, you'll just never look this cool without a vape:
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2021-12-10 11:40:57 AM  
I was waiting for my to-go order over at Texas Roadhouse not too long ago, and they make you park your car in the back in numbered spaces so the staff can run it out to your car.

Ever park behind a restaurant before?

I swear about 10 people were on break when I was there and they were all outside, vaping. You had to see the massive clouds they were making.

I wondered which one of those employees were vaping pot.  Because that's what I would do if I worked there.
 
2021-12-10 11:41:16 AM  
The risk of getting erectile dysfunction from COVID-19 didn't convince most men to drop their machismo facades and wear masks.  I doubt this study will change their behavior, either.
 
2021-12-10 11:41:35 AM  
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2021-12-10 11:41:57 AM  
Drinking also causes limp dick. I bet men will stop binge drinking any day now.
 
2021-12-10 11:42:06 AM  

OgreMagi: So a 0.0001% chance becomes 0.0002% ?

Be afraid.


Yeah, I'm no fan of nicotine but there are no hard numbers in this article.
 
2021-12-10 11:43:19 AM  
Well if I see a girl vaping it's definitely a boner killer.
 
2021-12-10 11:43:43 AM  
There was a point doctors and studies were warning about cancer, heart problems, erection issues from circulation issues and other horrible medical conditions and morons screamed foul.

I err on the side of that shiat isn't any safer than smoking.
 
2021-12-10 11:44:39 AM  
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2021-12-10 11:46:04 AM  
Once more, with feeling: CORRELATION DOES NOT MEAN CAUSATION

For all we know, vape users that self report having ED issues could all be in a certain industry.
 
2021-12-10 11:46:23 AM  

REDARMYVODKA: Psychopusher: I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.

Ditto. Smoked for 25 years, been vaping for the last 5 or so. I can still punch an eagle out of the sky with my hard-on.


I mean this is the first study that even looked into the potential for a link (that I'm aware of) and it wasn't specifically designed to look at that in particular, it was just an extra question they asked which they reviewed later for anything interesting. The results could be anomalous or they could be contributed to another factor not sampled or controlled for. The study specifically only included those who responded to the ED question so there may even be a reporting bias.

The results indicate it's a real concern and probably should be looked into more with studies designed specifically to look at this potential.

That said, your ability to get a hard on isn't really disproving the results. It's not like the study found it was common or impossible to have a hard on if you vape and frankly it's on the same level of thinking that holding a snowball disproves climate change.

All this study proves is that more research needs to be done, not that you'll be limp in a year.
 
2021-12-10 11:47:06 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Well if I see a girl vaping it's definitely a boner killer.


Not for me.  Girls with high risk tolerance are easy.

Some guys like a challenge.   Not me.
 
2021-12-10 11:47:50 AM  
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2021-12-10 11:47:54 AM  
yeah everyone go back to smoking instead its definitely better

sincerely,
definitely not a tobacco executive
 
2021-12-10 11:48:32 AM  

Psychopusher: I've been part of the vaping community since


Wait, first I have to hear about your crossfit routine and vegan breakfast.
 
2021-12-10 11:48:32 AM  

Psychopusher: I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.


There are women out there who like men, but just not so frequently.  It's why they put saltpeter in the food in the cafeteria.
 
2021-12-10 11:49:14 AM  

Psychopusher: I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.


You're right that the research has not definitively established that vaping causes erectile dysfunction.  It's just as likely that men with erectile problems are more prone to start vaping.  :-)
 
2021-12-10 11:49:37 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Girls with high risk tolerance are easy.


reminds me of that saying...."girls who smoke, poke"

which I never really understood. I thought it was the male that did the poking.
 
2021-12-10 11:50:36 AM  
I would prefer people vape over full blown tobacco smoking.

The problem is all the single use plastic and other non-recyclable bullshiat.
 
2021-12-10 11:50:48 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Well if I see a girl vaping it's definitely a boner killer.


She's already established she's willing to suck some disgusting crap.
I think that would be a motivator.
 
2021-12-10 11:51:21 AM  

Brettster808: Study sponsored by the American Tobacco Industry.


The tobacco industry LOVES vaping. It has single handedly saved their product. They own their own vaping companies, tobacco is where the nicotine comes from in vaping cartridges and vaping got an entirely new generation addicted to nicotine.
 
2021-12-10 11:51:22 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Are you saying, it went up in ...
Puts on glasses
Smoke?


The problem is it didn't go up...
 
2021-12-10 11:51:41 AM  
Drooped.  Subby, the word is "drooped".
 
2021-12-10 11:51:42 AM  

Psychopusher: I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.


The Psychopusher doth protest too much, methinks.
 
2021-12-10 11:51:43 AM  
This is interesting to me because I have had issues with vaping

I started vaping back in 2010 with no issues at all and it helped me quit smoking

A few years ago the kids were all vaping nic salts with the juul and I tried it and loved it

Since trying the nic salts - I've had issues breathing - I almost collapsed in the grocery store.  I did stop vaping and I improved

I've had issues that I wasn't sure what the cause was, one was breathing issues - I would quit and then start again after a long while - not sure if the issues were me and coincidentally vaping or if it was just the vaping

After quitting and restarting a few times I figured out that it WAS vaping because I started smoking again and don't have the breathing issues anymore

But i did have several bouts of ED that were strange, troubling and curious - that also have gone away since I swore off vaping for good.

So from my experience it seems at least - plausible
 
2021-12-10 11:52:21 AM  
I figured it crashed after all those people had their lungs destroyed by vaping. Few of them died before they could get lung transplants too iirc...
 
2021-12-10 11:53:23 AM  

Psychopusher: I'm calling bullshiat. I've been part of the vaping community since 2010.  I can say I've never had a problem.  They seem to be blaming the nicotine, and yet cigarettes, on average, contain more nicotine than the average E-liquid on a cigarette-equivalent basis (not including salt nics, which have much higher levels of nicotine due to the greatly reduced throat hit they produce).  So for those who vape freebase nic, why does this double their chances compared to smokers who get more nicotine?  That makes zero sense and this smacks of a study done by a compliant firm happy to deliver the results the clients, who no doubt are in an industry that vaping disrupts, wanted.


It sure seems like the work of "concerned"tobacco companies
 
2021-12-10 11:54:57 AM  

Rapmaster2000: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Well if I see a girl vaping it's definitely a boner killer.

Not for me.  Girls with high risk tolerance are easy.

Some guys like a challenge.   Not me.


I, for one, have found that girls who vape tend to much smell better than girls who smoke.
 
2021-12-10 11:55:33 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Well if I see a girl vaping it's definitely a boner killer.


Difficulty: with her hooh-hah

/she's a keeper
 
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