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(24/7 Wall Street)   Even with the BEST pizza and hotdogs in the US, Chicago couldn't make the top 50 in this   (247wallst.com) divider line
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2021-12-10 3:35:22 AM  
 
2021-12-10 3:42:38 AM  
50. Hot Springs, AR
49. Tulsa, OK
48. Fresno, CA
47. Merced, CA
46. Lawton, OK
45. Kokomo, IN
44. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
43. Chattanooga, TN-GA
42. Fort Smith, AR-OK
41. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN
40. New Orleans-Metairie, LA
39. Jackson, TN
38. Billings, MT
37. Springfield, MO
36. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
35. South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI
34. Jonesboro, AR
33. Farmington, NM
32. Kalamazoo-Portage, MI
31. Battle Creek, MI
30. Niles, MI
29. Rapid City, SD
28. Springfield, IL
27. Amarillo, TX
26. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
25. Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
24. Bakersfield, CA
23. Odessa, TX
22. Macon-Bibb County, GA
21. Pueblo, CO
20. Stockton, CA
19. Corpus Christi, TX
18. Gainesville, FL
17. Rockford, IL
16. Lake Charles, LA
15. Saginaw, MI
14. Sumter, SC
13. Fairbanks, AK
12. Florence, SC
11. Lubbock, TX
10. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
9. Alexandria, LA
8. Albuquerque, NM
7. Albany, GA
6. Danville, IL
5. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI
4. Pine Bluff, AR
3. Anchorage, AK
2. Monroe, LA
1. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

There.  Saved you 11 clicks.
 
2021-12-10 3:43:55 AM  
Huh. Less than one third are in blue states. Interesting.
 
2021-12-10 3:49:21 AM  

NINEv2: Huh. Less than one third are in blue states. Interesting.


I wonder what colour those specific counties in those blue states are.
 
2021-12-10 3:51:40 AM  
An armed society is a...huh...poor and violent society. Weird.
 
2021-12-10 3:53:26 AM  
So these are rates per 100k based on MSAs, which is an interesting way to do it. For Cleveland the rate for the MSA is 348, but for the city it's 1,600 and for some of the neighborhoods it's probably like 5,000 or higher.
 
2021-12-10 3:54:25 AM  
Virtually all of the cities on the list are somewhat isolated geographically, resulting in more people living in city limits instead of spreading out into the suburbs, diluting the crime statistics. The reason Chicago didn't make the list even though there is a lot of crime is that so many people live in nice parts of Chicago that the number of Chicago slum dwellers pales in comparison. That, and much of the crime in Chicagoland has migrated out to the suburbs.
 
2021-12-10 3:55:07 AM  
"Even with the BEST pizza and hotdogs in the US, Chicago"

Drew. Give me subby's name and address. I will pay you wergild and I assure his/her/their remains will be treated appropriately.
 
2021-12-10 3:55:47 AM  
Surely SF, Portland, and Seattle should be on these lists! I was told they were dystopian hellscapes of unchecked lawlessness and crime!!!
 
2021-12-10 3:57:39 AM  
Kill the first born male of every household.
 
2021-12-10 3:58:22 AM  

Psychopompous: Virtually all of the cities on the list are somewhat isolated geographically, resulting in more people living in city limits instead of spreading out into the suburbs, diluting the crime statistics. The reason Chicago didn't make the list even though there is a lot of crime is that so many people live in nice parts of Chicago that the number of Chicago slum dwellers pales in comparison. That, and much of the crime in Chicagoland has migrated out to the suburbs.


It's actually per MSA, but if you have a high crime city surrounded by fields you're not going to dilute the rate much, vs say Cleveland where 80% of the MSA lives outside the city and over 50% lives out in safe suburbs with virtually no violent crime outside of domestic violence and date rapes.
 
2021-12-10 4:03:02 AM  

wxboy: 50. Hot Springs, AR
49. Tulsa, OK
48. Fresno, CA
47. Merced, CA
46. Lawton, OK
45. Kokomo, IN
44. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
43. Chattanooga, TN-GA
42. Fort Smith, AR-OK
41. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN
40. New Orleans-Metairie, LA
39. Jackson, TN
38. Billings, MT
37. Springfield, MO
36. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
35. South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI
34. Jonesboro, AR
33. Farmington, NM
32. Kalamazoo-Portage, MI
31. Battle Creek, MI
30. Niles, MI
29. Rapid City, SD
28. Springfield, IL
27. Amarillo, TX
26. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
25. Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
24. Bakersfield, CA
23. Odessa, TX
22. Macon-Bibb County, GA
21. Pueblo, CO
20. Stockton, CA
19. Corpus Christi, TX
18. Gainesville, FL
17. Rockford, IL
16. Lake Charles, LA
15. Saginaw, MI
14. Sumter, SC
13. Fairbanks, AK
12. Florence, SC
11. Lubbock, TX
10. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
9. Alexandria, LA
8. Albuquerque, NM
7. Albany, GA
6. Danville, IL
5. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI
4. Pine Bluff, AR
3. Anchorage, AK
2. Monroe, LA
1. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

There.  Saved you 11 clicks.


All that ad revenue lost, like tears in the rain.
 
2021-12-10 4:16:28 AM  

NINEv2: Huh. Less than one third are in blue states. Interesting.


The ones in CA are in Central Valley which tends to lean heavily red.
 
2021-12-10 4:35:14 AM  
*stabs subby*
I was already getting pissed about the lies about pizza and hot dogs then you link a slide show. you are seriously the worst.
 
2021-12-10 4:54:36 AM  
Look at this helpful image to solidify the stereotype that white women are in danger
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2021-12-10 5:08:31 AM  

TwowheelinTim: NINEv2: Huh. Less than one third are in blue states. Interesting.

The ones in CA are in Central Valley which tends to lean heavily red.


Also a few of the ones in Michigan are in the western part of the state, which is generally run by whackaloon evangelical archconservatives descended from hardline Dutch protestants.
 
2021-12-10 5:09:49 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Kill the first born male of every household.


Too Jewish.
 
2021-12-10 5:29:21 AM  

wxboy: 50. Hot Springs, AR
49. Tulsa, OK
48. Fresno, CA
47. Merced, CA
46. Lawton, OK
45. Kokomo, IN
44. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
43. Chattanooga, TN-GA
42. Fort Smith, AR-OK
41. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN
40. New Orleans-Metairie, LA
39. Jackson, TN
38. Billings, MT
37. Springfield, MO
36. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
35. South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI
34. Jonesboro, AR
33. Farmington, NM
32. Kalamazoo-Portage, MI
31. Battle Creek, MI
30. Niles, MI
29. Rapid City, SD
28. Springfield, IL
27. Amarillo, TX
26. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
25. Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
24. Bakersfield, CA
23. Odessa, TX
22. Macon-Bibb County, GA
21. Pueblo, CO
20. Stockton, CA
19. Corpus Christi, TX
18. Gainesville, FL
17. Rockford, IL
16. Lake Charles, LA
15. Saginaw, MI
14. Sumter, SC
13. Fairbanks, AK
12. Florence, SC
11. Lubbock, TX
10. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
9. Alexandria, LA
8. Albuquerque, NM
7. Albany, GA
6. Danville, IL
5. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI
4. Pine Bluff, AR
3. Anchorage, AK
2. Monroe, LA
1. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

There.  Saved you 11 clicks.


Hmm.  Most of these places have something in common.  Can anyone guess?
 
2021-12-10 5:52:35 AM  

TwowheelinTim: NINEv2: Huh. Less than one third are in blue states. Interesting.

The ones in CA are in Central Valley which tends to lean heavily red.


I remember the good old days when East Palo Alto was the 'US murder capital'. Never got out of the car there after dark back then. It's cleaned up nicely since then.
 
Xai
2021-12-10 5:59:31 AM  
For UK peeps, that's roughly 15 times worse than London. All the murders (per person) that happen in London happen in just 4 weeks in Memphis.
 
2021-12-10 6:05:30 AM  
While I love the city, Seattle seems to have had a 20% spike in homicides this year.

We're still way below these top 50 "worst crime rate" cities, but it does feel like the frequency of crime around here is accelerating.
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In short, it sucks here. Don't come. Plus, it rains ALL THE TIME. You'd hate it. Definitely stay in California or Texas.
 
2021-12-10 6:06:14 AM  

Xai: For UK peeps, that's roughly 15 times worse than London. All the murders (per person) that happen in London happen in just 4 weeks in Memphis.


Sure, but on the other hand, the BBQ is much better in Memphis.
 
2021-12-10 6:07:24 AM  
My town's violent crime rate is about to go up.  After fighting through all those popup ads, I'm feeling pretty stabby right now.
 
2021-12-10 6:15:11 AM  
I was born in Fairbanks, lived in Anchorage, Springfield, Billings and Sumter. I currently work in Jonesboro and Conway. Just sayin'....
 
2021-12-10 6:16:45 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: While I love the city, Seattle seems to have had a 20% spike in homicides this year.

We're still way below these top 50 "worst crime rate" cities, but it does feel like the frequency of crime around here is accelerating.
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In short, it sucks here. Don't come. Plus, it rains ALL THE TIME. You'd hate it. Definitely stay in California or Texas.


I'd much rather have the rain than what we have here.
 
2021-12-10 6:22:08 AM  
Kris_Romm:Hmm.  Most of these places have something in common.  Can anyone guess?


They're in the "I've Been Everywhere, Man" song?
 
2021-12-10 6:25:04 AM  
Wait. . . they sell pizza in Chicago?  I thought they were famous for tomato soup in a bread bowl.
 
2021-12-10 6:37:03 AM  

robodog: So these are rates per 100k based on MSAs, which is an interesting way to do it. For Cleveland the rate for the MSA is 348, but for the city it's 1,600 and for some of the neighborhoods it's probably like 5,000 or higher.


What does the Muslim Student Association have to do with this?
 
2021-12-10 6:39:49 AM  

Kris_Romm: wxboy: 50. Hot Springs, AR
49. Tulsa, OK
48. Fresno, CA
47. Merced, CA
46. Lawton, OK
45. Kokomo, IN
44. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
43. Chattanooga, TN-GA
42. Fort Smith, AR-OK
41. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN
40. New Orleans-Metairie, LA
39. Jackson, TN
38. Billings, MT
37. Springfield, MO
36. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
35. South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI
34. Jonesboro, AR
33. Farmington, NM
32. Kalamazoo-Portage, MI
31. Battle Creek, MI
30. Niles, MI
29. Rapid City, SD
28. Springfield, IL
27. Amarillo, TX
26. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
25. Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
24. Bakersfield, CA
23. Odessa, TX
22. Macon-Bibb County, GA
21. Pueblo, CO
20. Stockton, CA
19. Corpus Christi, TX
18. Gainesville, FL
17. Rockford, IL
16. Lake Charles, LA
15. Saginaw, MI
14. Sumter, SC
13. Fairbanks, AK
12. Florence, SC
11. Lubbock, TX
10. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
9. Alexandria, LA
8. Albuquerque, NM
7. Albany, GA
6. Danville, IL
5. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI
4. Pine Bluff, AR
3. Anchorage, AK
2. Monroe, LA
1. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

There.  Saved you 11 clicks.

Hmm.  Most of these places have something in common.  Can anyone guess?


Yep.  Burger King.
 
2021-12-10 6:51:43 AM  
If someone in Danville gets in a bar fight and winds up with four aggravated assault charges, Chicago would need about 340 aggravated assaults to keep pace with it.
 
2021-12-10 6:56:45 AM  

kukukupo: Wait. . . they sell pizza in Chicago?  I thought they were famous for tomato soup in a bread bowl.


flatbread

ftfy
 
2021-12-10 6:57:24 AM  

We Ate the Necco Wafers: While I love the city, Seattle seems to have had a 20% spike in homicides this year.

We're still way below these top 50 "worst crime rate" cities, but it does feel like the frequency of crime around here is accelerating.
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In short, it sucks here. Don't come. Plus, it rains ALL THE TIME. You'd hate it. Definitely stay in California or Texas.


I remember the first year that I lived in Seattle, I was blown away by the weather.   Moving there from Pittsburgh was a dream that lasted 4 years.  Then karma kicked me in the stones and moved me back to Pittsburgh and I've been here ever since (going on 2 decades now).
 
2021-12-10 6:57:50 AM  

phishrace: TwowheelinTim: NINEv2: Huh. Less than one third are in blue states. Interesting.

The ones in CA are in Central Valley which tends to lean heavily red.

I remember the good old days when East Palo Alto was the 'US murder capital'. Never got out of the car there after dark back then. It's cleaned up nicely since then.


Gentrification?
 
2021-12-10 7:14:36 AM  
No Food tag?
 
2021-12-10 7:34:34 AM  
That's casserole and hotdogs, subby...
 
2021-12-10 7:43:34 AM  

Robo Beat: TwowheelinTim: NINEv2: Huh. Less than one third are in blue states. Interesting.

The ones in CA are in Central Valley which tends to lean heavily red.

Also a few of the ones in Michigan are in the western part of the state, which is generally run by whackaloon evangelical archconservatives descended from hardline Dutch protestants.


I thought it was wackadoodle, you must be Canadian. You are right about the religious nut jobs in west Michigan. To paraphrase Indiana Jones:
"I'm a pilgrim in an unholy land".
Being that I'm an atheist, pot smoking, liberal hippie.
 
2021-12-10 7:45:08 AM  

LoneVVolf: That's casserole and hotdogs, subby...


Toe-may-toe, toe-mah-toe
 
2021-12-10 7:51:56 AM  
We all know Detroit has the best pizza, the best hotdogs (coney dogs), and the best violence. Having the worst football team doesn't negate all the rest.
 
2021-12-10 7:58:28 AM  
Notice how the response is to increase the police force or change how they do policing.

The response is never "increase funding for social services" or find ways to reduce poverty.

Right wingers just don't understand cause and effect.  Or maybe they just think it's easier to punish people than it is to actually solve the problem.
 
2021-12-10 8:00:57 AM  
 
2021-12-10 8:02:34 AM  

Kris_Romm: wxboy: 50. Hot Springs, AR
49. Tulsa, OK
48. Fresno, CA
47. Merced, CA
46. Lawton, OK
45. Kokomo, IN
44. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
43. Chattanooga, TN-GA
42. Fort Smith, AR-OK
41. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN
40. New Orleans-Metairie, LA
39. Jackson, TN
38. Billings, MT
37. Springfield, MO
36. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
35. South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI
34. Jonesboro, AR
33. Farmington, NM
32. Kalamazoo-Portage, MI
31. Battle Creek, MI
30. Niles, MI
29. Rapid City, SD
28. Springfield, IL
27. Amarillo, TX
26. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
25. Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
24. Bakersfield, CA
23. Odessa, TX
22. Macon-Bibb County, GA
21. Pueblo, CO
20. Stockton, CA
19. Corpus Christi, TX
18. Gainesville, FL
17. Rockford, IL
16. Lake Charles, LA
15. Saginaw, MI
14. Sumter, SC
13. Fairbanks, AK
12. Florence, SC
11. Lubbock, TX
10. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
9. Alexandria, LA
8. Albuquerque, NM
7. Albany, GA
6. Danville, IL
5. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI
4. Pine Bluff, AR
3. Anchorage, AK
2. Monroe, LA
1. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

There.  Saved you 11 clicks.

Hmm.  Most of these places have something in common.  Can anyone guess?


They need someone to fix the cable?
 
2021-12-10 8:26:09 AM  

zeroman987: Notice how the response is to increase the police force or change how they do policing.

The response is never "increase funding for social services" or find ways to reduce poverty.

Right wingers just don't understand cause and effect.  Or maybe they just think it's easier to punish people than it is to actually solve the problem.


"Let's Help People" doesn't get the (R) voters to the polls. "Let's Hurt (those) People" is a massive rallying cry.

Change your name to "The Punisher" and you can get elected to state office in the South, at a minimum.
 
2021-12-10 8:26:32 AM  

saywhonow: Kris_Romm: wxboy: 50. Hot Springs, AR
49. Tulsa, OK
48. Fresno, CA
47. Merced, CA
46. Lawton, OK
45. Kokomo, IN
44. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
43. Chattanooga, TN-GA
42. Fort Smith, AR-OK
41. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN
40. New Orleans-Metairie, LA
39. Jackson, TN
38. Billings, MT
37. Springfield, MO
36. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
35. South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI
34. Jonesboro, AR
33. Farmington, NM
32. Kalamazoo-Portage, MI
31. Battle Creek, MI
30. Niles, MI
29. Rapid City, SD
28. Springfield, IL
27. Amarillo, TX
26. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
25. Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
24. Bakersfield, CA
23. Odessa, TX
22. Macon-Bibb County, GA
21. Pueblo, CO
20. Stockton, CA
19. Corpus Christi, TX
18. Gainesville, FL
17. Rockford, IL
16. Lake Charles, LA
15. Saginaw, MI
14. Sumter, SC
13. Fairbanks, AK
12. Florence, SC
11. Lubbock, TX
10. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
9. Alexandria, LA
8. Albuquerque, NM
7. Albany, GA
6. Danville, IL
5. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI
4. Pine Bluff, AR
3. Anchorage, AK
2. Monroe, LA
1. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

There.  Saved you 11 clicks.

Hmm.  Most of these places have something in common.  Can anyone guess?

They need someone to fix the cable?


Don't be fatuous, saywhonow.
 
2021-12-10 8:29:46 AM  

kukukupo: Wait. . . they sell pizza in Chicago?  I thought they were famous for tomato soup in a bread bowl.



Other Chicagoland farkers can probably chime in with more expert knowledge on this, but methinks there are different versions of Chicago style. I was visiting relatives in Chicago and we had Malnati's, which has lots of locations in Chicago. Their Chicago style was not soupy at all.  I've had the tomato soupy pizza at Gino's in downtown Chicago, and I'm not that fond of it, but I think other supposed Chicago style pizzerias skip the liquidity in their pizza.
 
2021-12-10 8:29:57 AM  

Hoopy Frood: If someone in Danville gets in a bar fight and winds up with four aggravated assault charges, Chicago would need about 340 aggravated assaults to keep pace with it.


Yes.  This is an interesting thing for you to note.  Most people know this intuitively, which is why scary headlines about out-of-control murders in Chicago do not concern millions of people who live in Chicago.
 
2021-12-10 8:30:52 AM  

Cortez the Killer: saywhonow: Kris_Romm: wxboy: 50. Hot Springs, AR
49. Tulsa, OK
48. Fresno, CA
47. Merced, CA
46. Lawton, OK
45. Kokomo, IN
44. Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
43. Chattanooga, TN-GA
42. Fort Smith, AR-OK
41. Nashville-Davidson-Murfreesboro-Franklin, TN
40. New Orleans-Metairie, LA
39. Jackson, TN
38. Billings, MT
37. Springfield, MO
36. Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX
35. South Bend-Mishawaka, IN-MI
34. Jonesboro, AR
33. Farmington, NM
32. Kalamazoo-Portage, MI
31. Battle Creek, MI
30. Niles, MI
29. Rapid City, SD
28. Springfield, IL
27. Amarillo, TX
26. Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
25. Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
24. Bakersfield, CA
23. Odessa, TX
22. Macon-Bibb County, GA
21. Pueblo, CO
20. Stockton, CA
19. Corpus Christi, TX
18. Gainesville, FL
17. Rockford, IL
16. Lake Charles, LA
15. Saginaw, MI
14. Sumter, SC
13. Fairbanks, AK
12. Florence, SC
11. Lubbock, TX
10. Little Rock-North Little Rock-Conway, AR
9. Alexandria, LA
8. Albuquerque, NM
7. Albany, GA
6. Danville, IL
5. Detroit-Dearborn-Livonia, MI
4. Pine Bluff, AR
3. Anchorage, AK
2. Monroe, LA
1. Memphis, TN-MS-AR

There.  Saved you 11 clicks.

Hmm.  Most of these places have something in common.  Can anyone guess?

They need someone to fix the cable?

Don't be fatuous, saywhonow.


Hey, I've been working out! It's not my fault they closed all the things and then left me trapped in my house with two cases of cupcakes and 2 years of depressing news!
 
2021-12-10 8:33:55 AM  

wxboy: There. Saved you 11 clicks.


Thank you.
 
2021-12-10 8:34:11 AM  
Long Distance Information get me Memphis Tennessee
Help me stop the party trying to do away with me

They kidnapped me and took me to
Their house upon a ridge
Covered me in applesauce
And locked me in their fridge

Help me Information, more than that I cannot say
Only that I'm still alive - but that is just today
Who knows what tomorrow brings, who knows when Death will call?
Tell ya, when he shows up he can suck on my left ball
 
2021-12-10 8:39:15 AM  
To be fair, for the longest time we used to be no. 1 or no. 2.  Now, we're no. 5.  So, progress?
 
2021-12-10 8:40:03 AM  

SirEattonHogg: kukukupo: Wait. . . they sell pizza in Chicago?  I thought they were famous for tomato soup in a bread bowl.


Other Chicagoland farkers can probably chime in with more expert knowledge on this, but methinks there are different versions of Chicago style. I was visiting relatives in Chicago and we had Malnati's, which has lots of locations in Chicago. Their Chicago style was not soupy at all.  I've had the tomato soupy pizza at Gino's in downtown Chicago, and I'm not that fond of it, but I think other supposed Chicago style pizzerias skip the liquidity in their pizza.


The overwhelming type of Chicago specific pizza that Chicagoans eat is tavern style:  https://chicago.eater.com/maps/best-chicago-thin-crust-pizza-restaurants-tavern-style

Stuffed or deep dish is something rarely eaten.  My personal favorite is Aurelio's, which I grew up eating:
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